[freenet-support] Zero Point Seven

[Matthew Toseland]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 06:55:38PM +0100, Volodya Mozhenkov wrote:
> I know that you probably hate people asking the same questions over and 
> over again, i have been reading these discussions and explanations for 
> quite some time, but can't find an answers to the questions that interests 
> me.
> 
> Let's say I trust John and Jill. I create my own litte darknet to 
> distribute highly contravercial vegan recepies, which happen to be illegal 
> in my hypothetical meat-eaters-only country. Then John, decides to invite 
> Jason into the darknet... and Jason is an undercover meat-eater. Will Jason 
> be able to learn about my vegan habbits? If not (i.e. he will only be 
> connected to John) then John will be the only point of entry for anything 
> Jason wants to insert/retrieve from the darknet, is that correct?

He will be connected to John. If Jill wants to connect to him too, then
she must connect to him and him to her.
> 
> You have also mentioned about joining two different darknets together. Do 
> you mean that if Jason in our situation is a member of a vegetarian (rather 
> than vegan) darknet then vegetarian darknetters will be able to receive the 
> content of vegan darnet? Can that be stopped? (ie Can Jason say, "Yes, i'm 
> a part of two darknets, but i don't want any crosspolination between the 
> two").

Sure, he can run two separate nodes. He can then manually migrate
content, if he wants to.
> 
> How easy is it to run opennet and darknet at the same time? Will that 
> require two separate nodes running or can i run one nodes connecting to 
> both nets?

Two separate nodes, otherwise the darknet's apparently working won't
show very much.
> 
> How easy would it be to set up a gateway between a darknet and an opennet?

While it might theoretically be possible, I would strongly object to it.
You can MANUALLY migrate good content, but a gateway node would
undermine the whole idea of the darknet. You end up with a few nodes on
the edge of the opennet, connected to another few nodes on another edge
via the opennet. When the opennet is taken away, as it inevitably will
be, they are isolated again.
> 
> Well i think this is about all.
>   - Volodya
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[freenet-support] Zero Point Seven

[Volodya Mozhenkov]

I know that you probably hate people asking the same questions over and over 
again, i have 
been reading these discussions and explanations for quite some time, but can't 
find an 
answers to the questions that interests me.

Let's say I trust John and Jill. I create my own litte darknet to distribute 
highly 
contravercial vegan recepies, which happen to be illegal in my hypothetical 
meat-eaters-only country. Then John, decides to invite Jason into the 
darknet... and Jason 
is an undercover meat-eater. Will Jason be able to learn about my vegan 
habbits? If not 
(i.e. he will only be connected to John) then John will be the only point of 
entry for 
anything Jason wants to insert/retrieve from the darknet, is that correct?

You have also mentioned about joining two different darknets together. Do you 
mean that if 
Jason in our situation is a member of a vegetarian (rather than vegan) darknet 
then 
vegetarian darknetters will be able to receive the content of vegan darnet? Can 
that be 
stopped? (ie Can Jason say, "Yes, i'm a part of two darknets, but i don't want 
any 
crosspolination between the two").

How easy is it to run opennet and darknet at the same time? Will that require 
two separate 
nodes running or can i run one nodes connecting to both nets?

How easy would it be to set up a gateway between a darknet and an opennet?

Well i think this is about all.
   - Volodya

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[freenet-support] Zero Point Seven

[Volodya Mozhenkov]

I know that you probably hate people asking the same questions over and over again, i have 
been reading these discussions and explanations for quite some time, but can't find an 
answers to the questions that interests me.


Let's say I trust John and Jill. I create my own litte darknet to distribute highly 
contravercial vegan recepies, which happen to be illegal in my hypothetical 
meat-eaters-only country. Then John, decides to invite Jason into the darknet... and Jason 
is an undercover meat-eater. Will Jason be able to learn about my vegan habbits? If not 
(i.e. he will only be connected to John) then John will be the only point of entry for 
anything Jason wants to insert/retrieve from the darknet, is that correct?


You have also mentioned about joining two different darknets together. Do you mean that if 
Jason in our situation is a member of a vegetarian (rather than vegan) darknet then 
vegetarian darknetters will be able to receive the content of vegan darnet? Can that be 
stopped? (ie Can Jason say, Yes, i'm a part of two darknets, but i don't want any 
crosspolination between the two).


How easy is it to run opennet and darknet at the same time? Will that require two separate 
nodes running or can i run one nodes connecting to both nets?


How easy would it be to set up a gateway between a darknet and an opennet?

Well i think this is about all.
  - Volodya

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ICQ: 253627744
Frost: VolodyA! V [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pm4pigs: VolodyA! V [EMAIL PROTECTED],5T0rxHZ7rar4uOtnHlSY5A
Forum: ethical_anarhist on www.kingstonuniversity.org

Please visit http://www.whengendarmesleeps.org/
   When Gendarme Sleeps - Anarchy's Zine of Poetry


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Re: [freenet-support] Zero Point Seven

[Matthew Toseland]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 06:55:38PM +0100, Volodya Mozhenkov wrote:
 I know that you probably hate people asking the same questions over and 
 over again, i have been reading these discussions and explanations for 
 quite some time, but can't find an answers to the questions that interests 
 me.
 
 Let's say I trust John and Jill. I create my own litte darknet to 
 distribute highly contravercial vegan recepies, which happen to be illegal 
 in my hypothetical meat-eaters-only country. Then John, decides to invite 
 Jason into the darknet... and Jason is an undercover meat-eater. Will Jason 
 be able to learn about my vegan habbits? If not (i.e. he will only be 
 connected to John) then John will be the only point of entry for anything 
 Jason wants to insert/retrieve from the darknet, is that correct?

He will be connected to John. If Jill wants to connect to him too, then
she must connect to him and him to her.
 
 You have also mentioned about joining two different darknets together. Do 
 you mean that if Jason in our situation is a member of a vegetarian (rather 
 than vegan) darknet then vegetarian darknetters will be able to receive the 
 content of vegan darnet? Can that be stopped? (ie Can Jason say, Yes, i'm 
 a part of two darknets, but i don't want any crosspolination between the 
 two).

Sure, he can run two separate nodes. He can then manually migrate
content, if he wants to.
 
 How easy is it to run opennet and darknet at the same time? Will that 
 require two separate nodes running or can i run one nodes connecting to 
 both nets?

Two separate nodes, otherwise the darknet's apparently working won't
show very much.
 
 How easy would it be to set up a gateway between a darknet and an opennet?

While it might theoretically be possible, I would strongly object to it.
You can MANUALLY migrate good content, but a gateway node would
undermine the whole idea of the darknet. You end up with a few nodes on
the edge of the opennet, connected to another few nodes on another edge
via the opennet. When the opennet is taken away, as it inevitably will
be, they are isolated again.
 
 Well i think this is about all.
   - Volodya
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.


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