Re: [freenet-support] BartPE plugin for Freenet 0.7?
On Friday 27 August 2010 11:04:57 Mark wrote: On 27/08/2010 09:37, Stephen Mollett wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:11, Mark perkype...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: ... I'm thinking of using a machine with 2G of RAM and implement a 1G ramdisk, the bartPE itself will be on a read only bootable USB stick. FWIW, I think there's a configuration option to make the node keep its datastore in RAM without having to use a ramdisk. I can't remember exactly where it is now (I'm not at my node) but that might be worth looking at - it may be more efficient than going through the filesystem layer. Of course, it might be worth considering (perhaps for a version 2 after you've got the basic stuff working) having an option to export (and, obviously, re-import) an encrypted archive of the vital statistics (node keys, etc - optionally the datastore, although that would require it to be stored in a filesystem so the archiver can access it) so that if the operator needs to reboot for administrative reasons, he doesn't have to restart his node from scratch. Obviously, he'd need to wipe/destroy the backup media afterwards so as not to defeat the original purpose of having a RAM-based node... Stephen Thanks for the suggestions. I'm a little new to all this so I think I'll just try to get something going first :) The option of having the datastore in ram rather than the filesystem is quite attractive as it liberates the ramdisk space for use by other things that do require a filesystem. I'll look at that option once I have something going though. How about using the existing swap space allocated by the installed linux/windows/whatever system? Encrypted, of course. You could even only use it if it was encrypted, if that can be detected easily. Plus, you can write stuff to the USB key e.g. keys ... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] BartPE plugin for Freenet 0.7?
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Mark perkype...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: On 26/08/2010 22:36, Juiceman wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Mark perkype...@hotmail.co.uk mailto:perkype...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Hi All, Does anyone have a bartPE plugin available for Freenet V0.7? If no-one has done this I'm thinking of having a go. It would be really useful though if I could get the following information from somewhere (maybe this is already published somewhere, apologies if it is): 1) A list of all files and where they should be put 2) A list of registry entries to be made 3) What services need to be registered and run 4) Where temporary files Freenet creates should be put I'm thinking of using a machine with 2G of RAM and implement a 1G ramdisk, the bartPE itself will be on a read only bootable USB stick. Does anyone have a feel for how difficult this might be, or any gotchas I need to look out for? If I manage to get it going I'll make it available to the Freenet community. As an aside, I really think Freenet should create and publish their own official bartPE plugin, this would allow liveCDs and liveUSBs to be easily created that are guaranteed not to leave any footprint whatsoever on a host PC, especially useful for those living in oppressive regimes who want to leave no trace of a Freenet being run. Thanks! Mark. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org mailto:Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe I think this is a great idea, I look forward to testing it for you. Many of the answers you need can be found on one of the wikis. http://wiki.freenetproject.org or http://new-wiki.freenetproject.org. You can even add info to the new wiki about your plugin project. No registry entries need to be made, nor do any services need to be run. The node can be run with a simple batch command, something like java -Xmx100M http://wiki.freenetproject.org/Xmx100M/edit -cp freenet-ext.jar:freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar freenet.node.Node freenet.ini I was unaware you could do this, thanks for this! The reason I mentioned services is that there is a freenet service running on my machine, and if you disable it you get a lost signal error when trying to start or stop the node. So I assumed this needed to be registered and run during install. However I have read since that no services are really needed and sometimes this signal error does happen. Also there are registry entries for freenet. I did have V0.5 once so maybe this is a hangover from an unclean de-install of V0.5 (?). What you are trying to accomplish does not need the integrated Windows cruft. All you need is the directory and files that are created when you do an install and that command I gave you earlier to invoke Freenet manually. Can I also assume that starting the node as you describe puts an icon in the task bar and allows you to start and stop the node? Also I'm unsure exactly what freenet.node.NODE switch actually does, maybe there is a help file or a help output from the java command above. The icon is a separate utility that calls the Windows service so this can be ignored. The freenet.node.NODE switch tells Java what part of the Freenet code to start first. I'm a bit confused now about exactly what files to install. I'm guessing I can take a standard Windows installation and just put all the files in the Program Files/Freenet directory into ramdisk and run the java command above and that's all, is this correct? Yes. Thanks for the help BTW :) Mark. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe -- I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it. - Voltaire Those who would give up Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] BartPE plugin for Freenet 0.7?
Hi, On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:11, Mark perkype...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: ... I'm thinking of using a machine with 2G of RAM and implement a 1G ramdisk, the bartPE itself will be on a read only bootable USB stick. FWIW, I think there's a configuration option to make the node keep its datastore in RAM without having to use a ramdisk. I can't remember exactly where it is now (I'm not at my node) but that might be worth looking at - it may be more efficient than going through the filesystem layer. Of course, it might be worth considering (perhaps for a version 2 after you've got the basic stuff working) having an option to export (and, obviously, re-import) an encrypted archive of the vital statistics (node keys, etc - optionally the datastore, although that would require it to be stored in a filesystem so the archiver can access it) so that if the operator needs to reboot for administrative reasons, he doesn't have to restart his node from scratch. Obviously, he'd need to wipe/destroy the backup media afterwards so as not to defeat the original purpose of having a RAM-based node... Stephen -- I haven't lost my mind - it's backed up on tape somewhere! ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] BartPE plugin for Freenet 0.7?
On 26/08/2010 22:36, Juiceman wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Mark perkype...@hotmail.co.uk mailto:perkype...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Hi All, Does anyone have a bartPE plugin available for Freenet V0.7? If no-one has done this I'm thinking of having a go. It would be really useful though if I could get the following information from somewhere (maybe this is already published somewhere, apologies if it is): 1) A list of all files and where they should be put 2) A list of registry entries to be made 3) What services need to be registered and run 4) Where temporary files Freenet creates should be put I'm thinking of using a machine with 2G of RAM and implement a 1G ramdisk, the bartPE itself will be on a read only bootable USB stick. Does anyone have a feel for how difficult this might be, or any gotchas I need to look out for? If I manage to get it going I'll make it available to the Freenet community. As an aside, I really think Freenet should create and publish their own official bartPE plugin, this would allow liveCDs and liveUSBs to be easily created that are guaranteed not to leave any footprint whatsoever on a host PC, especially useful for those living in oppressive regimes who want to leave no trace of a Freenet being run. Thanks! Mark. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org mailto:Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe I think this is a great idea, I look forward to testing it for you. Many of the answers you need can be found on one of the wikis. http://wiki.freenetproject.org or http://new-wiki.freenetproject.org. You can even add info to the new wiki about your plugin project. No registry entries need to be made, nor do any services need to be run. The node can be run with a simple batch command, something like java -Xmx100M http://wiki.freenetproject.org/Xmx100M/edit -cp freenet-ext.jar:freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar freenet.node.Node freenet.ini I was unaware you could do this, thanks for this! The reason I mentioned services is that there is a freenet service running on my machine, and if you disable it you get a lost signal error when trying to start or stop the node. So I assumed this needed to be registered and run during install. However I have read since that no services are really needed and sometimes this signal error does happen. Also there are registry entries for freenet. I did have V0.5 once so maybe this is a hangover from an unclean de-install of V0.5 (?). Can I also assume that starting the node as you describe puts an icon in the task bar and allows you to start and stop the node? Also I'm unsure exactly what freenet.node.NODE switch actually does, maybe there is a help file or a help output from the java command above. I'm a bit confused now about exactly what files to install. I'm guessing I can take a standard Windows installation and just put all the files in the Program Files/Freenet directory into ramdisk and run the java command above and that's all, is this correct? Thanks for the help BTW :) Mark. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] BartPE plugin for Freenet 0.7?
On 27/08/2010 09:37, Stephen Mollett wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:11, Mark perkype...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: ... I'm thinking of using a machine with 2G of RAM and implement a 1G ramdisk, the bartPE itself will be on a read only bootable USB stick. FWIW, I think there's a configuration option to make the node keep its datastore in RAM without having to use a ramdisk. I can't remember exactly where it is now (I'm not at my node) but that might be worth looking at - it may be more efficient than going through the filesystem layer. Of course, it might be worth considering (perhaps for a version 2 after you've got the basic stuff working) having an option to export (and, obviously, re-import) an encrypted archive of the vital statistics (node keys, etc - optionally the datastore, although that would require it to be stored in a filesystem so the archiver can access it) so that if the operator needs to reboot for administrative reasons, he doesn't have to restart his node from scratch. Obviously, he'd need to wipe/destroy the backup media afterwards so as not to defeat the original purpose of having a RAM-based node... Stephen Thanks for the suggestions. I'm a little new to all this so I think I'll just try to get something going first :) The option of having the datastore in ram rather than the filesystem is quite attractive as it liberates the ramdisk space for use by other things that do require a filesystem. I'll look at that option once I have something going though. Mark. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] BartPE plugin for Freenet 0.7?
Wonder if it could be made as a pet package for the puppy live cd? http://www.puppylinux.com/download/ ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] BartPE plugin for Freenet 0.7?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Mark perkype...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Hi All, Does anyone have a bartPE plugin available for Freenet V0.7? If no-one has done this I'm thinking of having a go. It would be really useful though if I could get the following information from somewhere (maybe this is already published somewhere, apologies if it is): 1) A list of all files and where they should be put 2) A list of registry entries to be made 3) What services need to be registered and run 4) Where temporary files Freenet creates should be put I'm thinking of using a machine with 2G of RAM and implement a 1G ramdisk, the bartPE itself will be on a read only bootable USB stick. Does anyone have a feel for how difficult this might be, or any gotchas I need to look out for? If I manage to get it going I'll make it available to the Freenet community. As an aside, I really think Freenet should create and publish their own official bartPE plugin, this would allow liveCDs and liveUSBs to be easily created that are guaranteed not to leave any footprint whatsoever on a host PC, especially useful for those living in oppressive regimes who want to leave no trace of a Freenet being run. Thanks! Mark. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe I think this is a great idea, I look forward to testing it for you. Many of the answers you need can be found on one of the wikis. http://wiki.freenetproject.org or http://new-wiki.freenetproject.org. You can even add info to the new wiki about your plugin project. No registry entries need to be made, nor do any services need to be run. The node can be run with a simple batch command, something like java - Xmx100M http://wiki.freenetproject.org/Xmx100M/edit -cp freenet-ext.jar:freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar freenet.node.Node freenet.ini -- I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it. - Voltaire Those who would give up Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
