Re: Call volume
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Mi 8. April 2009 schrieb bburde...@comcast.net: Has anyone been able to address this for themselves? This is maybe the last major issue that keeps the FR from being my main phone. But unless this is addressed I can't really recommend the phone to anyone but hobbyists. Despite everybody else in this thread answered on how to adjust earpiece level, I get it your real problem is echo. please look here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_and_Neo_FreeRunner_gsm_modem#Eliminating_echo_on_the_non-neo_end_.28far_end.29_of_phone_calls What I was really wanting to know was whether anyone with a FR had their phone working at a reasonable call volume without having echo. Not necessarily how they did it, although that is good info, but whether this was possible at all using the FR hardware. I'm trying to decide whether to get another phone for day to day use, as my pre-FR phone is on its last legs. So from the fact that echo cancellation has never been activated so far (that seems really wierd to me, but ok) it sounds like I need to wait until the next SHR-testing or move to SHR-unstable, where the fix is in place. Presumably the newer SHRs are using one of the 'recent GSM-handling daemons' mentioned on the wiki. I don't think issuing commands from the console to enable AEC after every call is going to work for me as a practical matter. That's good news that echo cancellation exists, and mine doesn't have it turned on, that gives me hope that it may work eventually. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: FR: Problems, problems: please help
Toni Mueller wrote: I am prepared to live with the device if I can verify that it has no significant hardware bug (=defect), which I can't determine ATM. Hey Toni; Having tried the initial 2008 release that came with the phone, upgraded to 2008.12 and then changed to SHR, I'd advise giving the latest iteration of SHR-testing a try. I've found it to be fairly stable and usable, although not everything is totally ironed out. I can make and receive phone calls reliably, wifi works (although the GUI app for connecting does not). GPS is reported to work, although I haven't tried very hard to get mine working - I can say it doesn't work for me in my living room, but neither does any other gps. A strong point with SHR-testing for me is the battery life. Its often still usable the next day, and suspend and un-suspend works well. The last SHR left wifi on all the time, which was a huge drain. I think you mentioned using the phone as a music player - I hear that the sound reproduction is not the greatest from the moko, that there's no bass because of a hardware issue. Its probably possible to do some compensation for this with software, but from what I understand the GTA02 will never be a high fidelity sound source like an IPod. The other issue I have with the phone is the lack of volume in the earpiece in SHR. I can converse fine at home, but in noisy environments its a problem. There's no GUI volume adjust, and changing the levels in the config files can result in echo for whoever you're talking with. Still, its better for the current SHR-testing release than for the previous one. Ben ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GSM Power Control
The phone's actual transmitted power level does change - I tested this in the past while looking at the gsm buzz problem: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/001121.html What about the Freerunner? -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:16:56 -0400 From: Joel B. Land jla...@gmail.com Subject: GSM Power Control To: support@lists.openmoko.org Message-ID: 2f93132e0903210516x301e6c71g9d8ae8deaa818...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi, Is the phone?s GSM modem doing power control? ?.was playing around with the AT commands and wondering why the following never changes: Serving Cell Information (2,1) Parameter no. Name Meaning 8 txlev Transmit Power Level I can change the received field strength (rxlvl) by moving in and outside, but not the txlvl. This because the power is always the same? Anyone know what the values mean? Thanks in advance! -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:29:35 +0100 From: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de Subject: Re: GSM Power Control To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners support@lists.openmoko.org Message-ID: 200903211329.36092.mic...@vanille-media.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Saturday 21 March 2009 13:16:56 Joel B. Land wrote: Serving Cell Information (2,1) Parameter no. Name Meaning 8 txlev Transmit Power Level Isn't this referring to the cell's power level rather than to the phone's? :M: -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:11:55 -0700 From: Mike Montour m...@mmontour.net Subject: Re: GSM Power Control To: support@lists.openmoko.org Message-ID: gq33kc$lv...@ger.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Joel B. Land wrote: Is the phone?s GSM modem doing power control? [...] I can change the received field strength (rxlvl) by moving in and outside, but not the txlvl. This because the power is always the same? The phone's actual transmitted power level does change - I tested this in the past while looking at the gsm buzz problem: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/001121.html ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
GSM Power Control
Hi, Is the phone’s GSM modem doing power control? ….was playing around with the AT commands and wondering why the following never changes: Serving Cell Information (2,1) Parameter no. Name Meaning 8 txlev Transmit Power Level I can change the received field strength (rxlvl) by moving in and outside, but not the txlvl. This because the power is always the same? Anyone know what the values mean? Thanks in advance! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [FSO/SHR-testing] Too much echo suppression?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:13:39AM +, Vasco Névoa wrote: Hi all. I've been happily using SHR without any GSM call echo, but the callers do complain that they hear me badly. I've tried calling the Neo from a landline, and I think the Neo is chopping the sound, making it hard to understand. I don't think it is a problem of volume. I think this is probably the result of echo suppression/cancellation being set too strong... I'd like to experiment with various levels of echo processing; where do I find info about the available AT commands, and where in FSO do I have to tweak? AFAIK you don't have to mess with AT commands: With a recent FSO/SHR, you can set the echo suppression level in frameworkd.conf: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf;h=5e19b138b8d689835484fc9ab748f39ea3feaddc;hb=master#l94 Regards, Thomas ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[SHR] Reset call log?
Under SHR, the phone log worked at first but now it crashes. There's a bug filed for this, apparently having restricted numbers in your call log causes the phone log app to die. Anyone know if there's a way to clear the phone call history so that the phone log won't crash anymore? Currently there's no way for me to know who just called me. Alternatively, does a command line version of the call log exist? Preferably a command that doesn't also crash! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [SHR]: List of missed calls? SMS number selection?
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 07:45:49PM +0100, Julien Cassignol wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Joerg Lippmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Is it possible to change the time till suspend? You have to edit /etc/frameworkd.conf for that. Another idea: I have successfully used dbus calls to frameworkd to alter suspend timeouts (temporarily at least). See the attached shell scripts. Usage example: ./set-suspendtime.sh 20 sets the timeout for the suspend state to 20 seconds (the timeouts of the previous states have to be added to that to get the overall suspend time). Use a value of -1 to disable suspend. I guess that these values are lost on reboot, though. But maybe these calls could be integrated into some sort of settings UI, that could maybe save the settings on shutdown and restore them on boot. Regards, Thomas set-suspendtime.sh Description: Bourne shell script set-blanktime.sh Description: Bourne shell script ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: QTextended Smart Theme Dialer
Maybe I'm being obtuse, but... And there isn't even an entry for dialer in the list you can add to the speed dial - also known as favorites, and not limited to phone numbers. I hope this gets fixed because the Smart theme has a much better homescreen. - Craig ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: 2008.8 updated today and illume as default profile brings classical enlightenment
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 08:53:46AM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Hi. I updated to today's stable packages (after noticing quite a lot of merges from testing), and lost the illume/raster keyboard. I tried to apply the hacks described at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_install_the_illume_.28Raster.27s.29_keyboard_.3F (more or less), and noticed that now, only the 'asu' default profile seems to bring the 2008.8 theme, and setting it as 'illum' (echo 'E_PROFILE=-profile illume' /etc/enlightenment/default_profile) will switch to classical enlightenment desktop like theme, menus, etc. I also had this issue when I upgraded today. I think the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate should be updated, but I'm not so sure something ain't broken in the current stable updates :-/ Yes, I think there is actually something broken. When I did opkg files illume-config-illume after the upgrade, it showed that this package was actually empty, just like several of the other illume packages (illume-keyboard-*). Doing an opkg install with the URL of the packages in the testing feed didn't seem to work either, I had to download the ipk's from the testing feed, put their md5sums into the packages list in /var/lib/opkg/daily-all and opkg install *.ipk. That did it for me. HTH, Thomas ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: frequent wakeups -- creating workaround -- scripts for apm
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 03:16:58PM -0500, Steven ** wrote: Thanks should be directed to Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]. He's the one that found the relevant Qtopia source. Thanks Thomas! Glad that I could help :-) Regards, Thomas ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gta02, 2007.2: frequent wakeups -- creating workaround
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:14:10PM +0200, arne anka wrote: i logged the resume_reason for the past days and all undesired wakeups are caused by EINT01_GSM -- as expected. so, i'd like to catch that events and send the phone back to sleep immediately. but, and it's a big but, EINT01_GSM is triggered even when a call comes in (and probably an sms, too). so it's not sufficient. Another idea: While poking through the Qtopia source code, I found something that might be interesting. Upon suspend, Qtopia sends commands to the modem to disable notifications about cell broadcasts, signal quality, etc. Upon wakeup the settings are restored. If you want to see how this is done, you can look here, for example: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=blob;f=devices/ficgta01/src/plugins/phonevendors/ficgta01/vendor_ficgta01.cpp;hb=HEAD#l603 I don't know whether OM2007.2 does something similar at the moment (I haven't looked), but if it doesn't then adding it might help. Regards, Thomas ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: 2008.8 Turn off keyboard 'guessing'??
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:51:09AM -0600, B wrote: Ok, I'm starting to figure out the new keyboard a little, now I can backspace and 'forwardspace'. But right now I'm wanting to type an URL in to the web browser, that doesn't seem to be possible with the predictive behavior. I'd like to turn that off, is there a way to do that? If I get the terminal installed too I would think it would also be unworkable with prediction. AFAIK you can't turn it off completely, but you can override it for single letters by holding the letter for more than 1 or 2 seconds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Keyboard_Zoom This wasn't really mentioned in the wiki before, so I added a hint on this here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Guide HTH, Thomas ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: 2008.8 : Can receive calls but cannot call
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 04:34:15PM +0200, Julien Cassignol wrote: Hi everyone, I thought I give a try and install 2008.8. I had a certain number of problems : 1) Pin isn't asked for each time (4-5 reboots), even if I launch an application which needs PIN (dialer). 2) Dialer says No network on each call, whereas I succesfully entered my PIN. 3) I can receive calls, and just after that, I can't call ! I haven't had any of those problems yet, but when I just tried to call my own landline to check whether I can call from my Freerunner, the following weird thing happened: I entered my number in my Freerunner's dialer, clicked Call, and my landline phone started ringing. Then I clicked End call on the Freerunner to cancel, but my landline phone kept ringing! It just wouldn't stop ringing, until I went to the phone and picked up, heard nothing, and ended the call there. Can anyone confirm this? Regards, Thomas PS: Otherwise, OM2008.8 looks great! Good work! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Freerunner (GTK2007.2) has suddenly become unbootable
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:29 PM, casaubon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.248 SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: unknown interface: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device If you are going to use dfu, then you do not need to start usb networking, dfu will undo it anyway and set up a connection itself. You cannot start usb0 unless your phone has booted successfully. -- Craig ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Next step on un-bricked FreeRunner
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:16:28AM +0200, arne anka wrote: download of Qtopia? Do you mean the application downloads at qtopia.net? I don't know how those are meant to be installed, but certainly not by flashing with dfu-util. well, the download from qtopia ist meant exactly to be flashed -- the tar ball contains a kernel image (uImage) and a rootfs image. Right. Maybe I was a bit unclear, sorry for that. The Qtopia ROM flash images from [1] are indeed meant to be flashed. But I'm not sure whether Mr. Brown tried to flash such an image - he wrote something about flashing a keyboard and many downloads there including one the requires 2.1M. That sounds more like [2], and those applications are not meant to be flashed. That's why I asked whether he means the application downloads. Regards, Thomas [1] http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 [2] http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=2 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:39:14AM +0200, Peter Rasmussen wrote: What doesn't work is: 1.Boot with different kernel images 2.Boot into multiple images on the flashcard I have before asked for info to: 1.Boot with kernel A into the NAND rootfs 2.Boot with kernel A into flash image in partition A (eg.: /media/card/imageA) 3.Boot with kernel B into flash image in partition B (eg.: /media/card/imageB) 4. Boot with kernel B into flash image in partition A (eg.: /media/card/imageA) 5. Boot with kernel A into flash image in partition B (eg.: /media/card/imageB) 6. etc. Is it hard or does it have a very low priority? For people doing testing it is important to be able to change only one part at the time. Still only having a GTA01, so please make any basic progress work there, too. What about adding menu entries to the U-Boot environment for each of those options? There you can specify from where to load kernel and rootfs. See here for examples: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Add_uboot_boot_entry HTH, Thomas ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Qtopia
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:28:16PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:15:32PM +0200, Thomas B. wrote: Alternatively, you can try to persuade U-Boot to tell the kernel to use ext3. I described how I did that here (didn't have time to put it in the wiki yet... There as a wiki entry on this already: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Add_uboot_boot_entry Ah, good to know :-) Regards, Thomas ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Signature Check Failed on opkg update
See (for your distro): http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking Thanks for the tip! I found what I needed for ubuntu there - upgrading now! Ben ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
