[pfSense Support] boot failure on alix with pfSense 1.2.3-RC3 (or more recent snapshots)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans Maes

Hello,

Is anybody running pfSense on an alix1c, alix1d or alix3c3 ? (the types 
with 1 NIC and VGA/USB)


I've been using pfSense on these types of alix boards for a while now, 
in setups with VLANs on the onboard NIC or a wireless card in the mpci 
slot as a second NIC.


I found out the nanobsd version 1.2.3-RC3 doesn't boot on them, gets 
stuck at Starting device manager (devd)...

Same CF works fine on an alix2c3.
All test boards are running latest BIOS version, even tested with 
various other BIOS versions.


I've just tested the latest snapshots available for 1.2.3 and 2.0 as 
well, they don't boot either.


More details are in the forum post at 
http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,20405.msg107742.html


Sorry for posting on both the forum and the mailinglist, but the forum 
thread didn't get any answers in the last 2 weeks, and I feel this issue 
is important enough to make sure it got noticed.


If however this is not a priority for the pfSense team, just say so and 
I'll stop whining :-)


Regards,

Hans

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[pfSense Support] OPT WAN issues

2009-12-02 Thread Luke Jaeger

Please forgive my noob questions...

I've added a 2nd WAN interface called CABLEWAN to my pfSense  
installation. The cable modem is set to straight bridge and seems to  
be working correctly.


PfSense sees the interface as up. But the interface can't ping the  
gateway.


I created a gateway pool in Load Balancer with the existing WAN and  
new CABLEWAN, and set that pool to be the gateway in my LAN rules. I  
made a rule for CABLEWAN allowing all http traffic.


Still no traffic on the new interface! Am I overlooking something  
obvious here?


Luke Jaeger | Technology Coordinator
Pioneer Valley Performing Arts Charter Public School
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[pfSense Support] PFSense advocacy

2009-12-02 Thread Ron García-Vidal
I realize this is a support forum, so if there is a better place to post 
this, I will take it there.


So, I'm trying to get a pfsense box in the shop because I've enjoyed 
working with it on my own setup.  The boss is fairly open-minded and 
open to a healthy discussion on the topic, but in the end, he wants to 
know why this would be preferable to a Cisco solution.


Since I've never worked extensively with Cisco, can someone give me a 
few salient points to throw at him. I already used the cost argument, he 
wants more.


Thanks.


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Re: [pfSense Support] PFSense advocacy

2009-12-02 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko

Ron García-Vidal wrote:
I realize this is a support forum, so if there is a better place to 
post this, I will take it there.


So, I'm trying to get a pfsense box in the shop because I've enjoyed 
working with it on my own setup.  The boss is fairly open-minded and 
open to a healthy discussion on the topic, but in the end, he wants to 
know why this would be preferable to a Cisco solution.


Since I've never worked extensively with Cisco, can someone give me a 
few salient points to throw at him. I already used the cost argument, 
he wants more.


Thanks.


I think it's better to start with providing of what you expect from 
'firewall in shop'. In what way are you going to use this firewall? what 
functionality/bandwidth do you need?


Evgeny.

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Re: [pfSense Support] PFSense advocacy

2009-12-02 Thread David Burgess
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Ron García-Vidal r...@millburncorp.com wrote:

 Since I've never worked extensively with Cisco, can someone give me a few
 salient points to throw at him. I already used the cost argument, he wants
 more.


The support for PFSense is top notch. Between the mailing list and the
forums I can't recall a single question gone unanswered, or a bug
unaddressed.

I've also seen Cisco equipment die, at which point you are dependant
on Cisco to ship a replacement part. With PFSense's ability to run on
a variety of hardware, you can choose your components and have a
variety on hand in case of failure. Incidentally, this feature also
makes it easy to upgrade.

That's what I like about it. Oh, and the fact that it's open source is
big with me, although that may or may not resonate with your boss.

db

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Re: [pfSense Support] PFSense advocacy

2009-12-02 Thread Adam Piasecki

1) Cost is the biggest advantage.
2) Open Source is also huge, if Cisco goes bankrupt I'm out of luck for 
support, If pfsense stops, i just need the source code and some 
knowledge of how it works and i can support pfsense forever.
3) pfSense can be customized to the nth degree. Good luck trying to get 
a feature added to Cisco ASA.

4) As long as your hardware is good, pfSense can be pretty reliable.

I just started deploying some Cisco ASA (I would have deployed pfsense, 
wasn't my choice). I had high hope for the Cisco ASA line-up, but after 
configuring them my love for pfsense just grew more and more.


I have configured and used most firewalls. pfSense is #1 followed 
closely by m0n0wall.. :)


Adam

Ron García-Vidal wrote:
I realize this is a support forum, so if there is a better place to 
post this, I will take it there.


So, I'm trying to get a pfsense box in the shop because I've enjoyed 
working with it on my own setup.  The boss is fairly open-minded and 
open to a healthy discussion on the topic, but in the end, he wants to 
know why this would be preferable to a Cisco solution.


Since I've never worked extensively with Cisco, can someone give me a 
few salient points to throw at him. I already used the cost argument, 
he wants more.


Thanks.





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Re: [pfSense Support] PFSense advocacy

2009-12-02 Thread Curtis Maurand


Start with cost.  There is no cost per seat with pfsense.  You don't 
have the up front cost of an expensive PIX or other Cisco Security 
product plus the license fees.  You don't pay extra for extra features 
either.


It will run quite nicely on a dual core atom based supermicro server 
from New Egg at about $350.00 bootable from a USB key vs having to pay 
gobs of money for RAM for a Cisco router if you're running lots of VPN 
tunnels.


Ease of configuration.  You still SSH in and get a command line if you 
want, but the GUI works very well and is very fast.  If you can redirect 
users to an internal proxy server, if you wish.


Its BSD, its secure (except for VPN password storage in plain text in 
the XML config file).  You can edit the config file by hand and upload 
it if you wish.


It has lots of nice features such as auto failover (CARP), etc.  Tons of 
plugins available for the download.  It even handles SIP proxy, etc.  
Its a very nice solution without all the added cost that you'd have to 
purchase from Cisco.  You can get paid support if you need it.   There's 
a large community of security conscious developers working on it so it 
has a lot of code review.  Its very stable and has a small footprint.  
The one I use the most has been up for 114 days and was only down 
because the power company's last outage lasted longer than the battery.


One of the last required updates I saw was due to an instability that 
occured when there were more than x thousand tunnels running sinultaneously.


It supports VPN standards and standard clients rather than requiring 
CIisco's proprietary client.


Hope this helps a little,
Curtis

Ron García-Vidal wrote:
I realize this is a support forum, so if there is a better place to 
post this, I will take it there.


So, I'm trying to get a pfsense box in the shop because I've enjoyed 
working with it on my own setup.  The boss is fairly open-minded and 
open to a healthy discussion on the topic, but in the end, he wants to 
know why this would be preferable to a Cisco solution.


Since I've never worked extensively with Cisco, can someone give me a 
few salient points to throw at him. I already used the cost argument, 
he wants more.


Thanks.





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Re: [pfSense Support] PFSense advocacy

2009-12-02 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Ron García-Vidal r...@millburncorp.com wrote:
 I realize this is a support forum, so if there is a better place to post
 this, I will take it there.

 So, I'm trying to get a pfsense box in the shop because I've enjoyed working
 with it on my own setup.  The boss is fairly open-minded and open to a
 healthy discussion on the topic, but in the end, he wants to know why this
 would be preferable to a Cisco solution.

 Since I've never worked extensively with Cisco, can someone give me a few
 salient points to throw at him. I already used the cost argument, he wants
 more.

Commercial support should help put Boss's worries at bay:

https://portal.pfsense.org/

Between this, the mailing list and forum you are covered.

Scott

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Re: [pfSense Support] PFSense advocacy

2009-12-02 Thread Curtis LaMasters

 Commercial support should help put Boss's worries at bay:

 https://portal.pfsense.org/

 Between this, the mailing list and forum you are covered.

 Scott

The big selling points for my Boss' were 1) cost 2) features 3) ease of use

Cost is a no brainer.

The features of pfSense that we needed sold the solution very easily.
Failover, Load Balancing, SNORT IDS, Proxy Filtering and an great web
based configuration engine were the key ones.  All but the proxy
filtering was needed for our hosting environment and a huge selling
point for our corporate firewall was the proxy filtering (with
squidguard) to keep our users in check.

Ease of use was huge because we didn't have to drop to CLI every time
someone needed a non standard configuration. Cough, cough Cisco

Curtis LaMasters
http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
http://www.builtnetworks.com

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Re: [pfSense Support] boot failure on alix with pfSense 1.2.3-RC3 (or more recent snapshots)

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hans Maes schrieb:
 Hello,
 
 Is anybody running pfSense on an alix1c, alix1d or alix3c3 ? (the types
 with 1 NIC and VGA/USB)
 
 I've been using pfSense on these types of alix boards for a while now,
 in setups with VLANs on the onboard NIC or a wireless card in the mpci
 slot as a second NIC.
 
 I found out the nanobsd version 1.2.3-RC3 doesn't boot on them, gets
 stuck at Starting device manager (devd)...
 Same CF works fine on an alix2c3.
 All test boards are running latest BIOS version, even tested with
 various other BIOS versions.
 
 I've just tested the latest snapshots available for 1.2.3 and 2.0 as
 well, they don't boot either.
 
 More details are in the forum post at
 http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,20405.msg107742.html
 
 Sorry for posting on both the forum and the mailinglist, but the forum
 thread didn't get any answers in the last 2 weeks, and I feel this issue
 is important enough to make sure it got noticed.
 
 If however this is not a priority for the pfSense team, just say so and
 I'll stop whining :-)
 
 Regards,
 
 Hans
 
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http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/NanoBSD_on_WRAP

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Re: [pfSense Support] PFSense advocacy

2009-12-02 Thread Larry Sampas
The office just sent me to Cisco IPS training. Cisco ASA's have
(linux) hardware modules that you can add for IPS -- basically the
same thing that Snort does, but for additional cost, licensing, and
maintenance on top of the equipment you already bought. Snort
signature updates are cheap compared to Cisco's.

And when you have two Cisco ASA's in active-passive, you still manage
every config item on the two IPS modules separately, including
signature updates. I'm still learning how to do in Cisco IPS what I
can already do in Snort.

Cisco training is expen$ive and not all that great -- usually covers
the last ASA/IPS version before the one you're using. In our office,
we're not allowed to use GUI tools to manage the ASAs, so I also need
to learn Cisco syntax which isn't covered in-depth in training
classes.

The one thing we rely on in our office that I haven't done with
pfSense are IPSec VPNs using Active Directory for authentication.

Now that pfSense has a book, what else do you need?

Larry

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Curtis LaMasters
curtislamast...@gmail.com wrote:

 Commercial support should help put Boss's worries at bay:

 https://portal.pfsense.org/

 Between this, the mailing list and forum you are covered.

 Scott

 The big selling points for my Boss' were 1) cost 2) features 3) ease of use

 Cost is a no brainer.

 The features of pfSense that we needed sold the solution very easily.
 Failover, Load Balancing, SNORT IDS, Proxy Filtering and an great web
 based configuration engine were the key ones.  All but the proxy
 filtering was needed for our hosting environment and a huge selling
 point for our corporate firewall was the proxy filtering (with
 squidguard) to keep our users in check.

 Ease of use was huge because we didn't have to drop to CLI every time
 someone needed a non standard configuration. Cough, cough Cisco

 Curtis LaMasters
 http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
 http://www.builtnetworks.com

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[pfSense Support] Is your embedded pfsense stable?

2009-12-02 Thread mehma sarja
*1.2.3-RC3, nanobsd on a Netgate Alix board with 256 MB RAM and a 8GB CF
card. The firmware and all have been updated.

Have been playing around with this box as a firewall for the last couple of
weeks. Then I did the unthinkable and ventured out of my comfort shell.
Installed DNS Blacklist, Snort and Backup. Well, I can report that Backup
runs without problems. Initially DNS Blacklist ran but then I installed the
dreaded pig... Snort.

I had to try a few times for the install to take. Then Snort ran and I got
even bolder. I turned on a bunch of rules without knowing what they actually
did. And that did me in. Keeping my eye on the RAM - I reached 84% and then
it happened. As Snort rules get exercised, memory usage skyrockets and
froze my little Alix box.

So, my question really is how far can these little machines be pushed?

Mehma
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