Re: Email Lists

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Donnerstag, Oktober 06, 2022 a las 12:33:30 +0100, Brian Morrison 
escribió:

> On Thu, 06 Oct 2022 14:28:27 +0300
> Konstantin Kharlamov  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 12:10 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote:
> > > On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 04:52:14 -0500
> > > Gary Kramlich  wrote:
> > >   
> > > > When it comes to this migration, are you for or against it?
> > > > (Please answer yes/no/doesn't matter)  
> > > 
> > > No. It seems to be a forum, much prefer mailing lists, forums always
> > > treat email as a second-class (or worse) add-on.  
> > 
> > I don't see a problem as long as a forum allows to emulate a mailing
> > list. If Discourse allows one to subscribe "to everything" and reply
> > to posts with email, then you get pretty much a mailing list in your
> > email client.
> > 
> > I don't know if Discourse allows that, but if somebody confirms, then
> > there should be no problem.
> > 
> 
> We were asked to vote, I vote against anything that looks like a forum
> and has a web interface. YMMV.

I'm also against any type of forum and prefer stay with the list.

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Re: Pidgin on iPhone

[Matthias Apitz]

El día martes, enero 02, 2018 a las 08:19:48p. m. +, David Woolley escribió:

> On 02/01/18 18:06, Maribel Navos wrote:
> > 
> > Quick question, since I’ve updated my iPhone 7 to iOS 11 my pidgin on my 
> > phone does not work.  It gives me this message: The developer of this 
> > app needs to update it to work with iOS 11.  Could you please tell me 
> > when we are able to access pidgin through our iPhone?
> 
> As far as I know, Pidgin doesn't work with any phone, as phones don't 
> support the GTK+ user interface library.  ...

Pidgin works with the Linux based Openmoko Freerunner GTA-02.

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Re: Pidgin for Smartphone

[Matthias Apitz]

El día miércoles, julio 29, 2015 a las 11:58:51a. m. -0400, Michael McConville 
escribió:

> Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > May I add to the question, if there is work in progress for a Pidgin
> > app for the BQ E4.5 Ubuntu phone? The problem for sure would be the
> > lack of a X11 server (it is running a Mir server), and other
> > infrastructure
> 
> There definitely isn't any active work happening for Ubuntu phone (or
> any smartphone, to my knowledge). If you want to look into it, that'd be
> awesome, of course.
> 
> I've never tried running libpurple on a smartphone. Getting it working
> on Android was a Google Summer of Code project recently, I think. I've
> been told that it may be too resource-demanding. Aside from that, it has
> a lot of dependencies, so getting it built and running would be a lot of
> work. Don't take my word for it, though.
> 
> If I recall correctly, Eion has played with HTTP data proxying between a
> phone client and libpurple running on a server.

There is a new project raising, at the moment in the phase of
crowdfunding, to bring a normal Linux system to a new hardware of a
mobile (i.e. the project is open hardware plus open Linux, not with
Android blobs). It is here: https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ and they have
already reached 91% of the goal and have 15 days left. I supported the
project by ordering one complete device, it's a risk but money risked
for a good sense. This device, due to it's software stack, would
perhaps allow to port libpurple to it.

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[Matthias Apitz]

unsubscribe :-)

No, I'm kidding. I know how to unsubscribe. I have used pidgin for many
years on my FreeBSD laptops/netbooks and I only want to say thanks for
the nice piece of software and for the support of the active members of
this list before I do unsubscribe me (only because I do not have any contacts
any more in pidgin).

Keep the good work

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Re: pidgin for mobile

[Matthias Apitz]

On Monday, 26 September 2016 17:10:57 CEST, naren bandaru 
 wrote:

Is there a pidgin app for smart phones? (apple, android, windows..any OS is
fine).



There is one for the Openmoko Freerunner, Linux





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Re: Yahoo Messenger, changes

[Matthias Apitz]

El día viernes, agosto 19, 2016 a las 02:45:08p. m. +0100, David Woolley 
escribió:

> You need to provide a detailed technical specification of the new 
> protocol, and convince some programmer to implement it.  I suspect that 
> Yahoo is unwilling to release such a specification, so you will have to 
> reverse engineer it.  Also, I think you will find that most programmers 
> take the view that chasing proprietary protocols is a waste of time and 
> just encourages companies to not follow open standards

In general I'm with you, David. The nasty consequence of not having
OpenSource implementations of (reversed engineered) proprietary
protocols is that all, even willing people, are encouraged to buy mobile
device with iOs, Android, ... with all such crappy apps, instead
of Ubuntu mobile devices, or even worth, use WhatsApe or however this
is named.

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Re: necesito ayuda

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, September 30, 2015 a las 06:54:07AM +0300, Klearchos-Angelos 
Gkountras escribió:

> we dont know all spanisih or portogueese . this is public mailing list
> please could you tell that in english ?
> 
> please reply on english

Hi,


Vivianne, en esta lista se comunica por inglés. 

The OP (Vivianne) can not open the contacts in gmail and is asking what
he/she should be do.

matthias

> On 09/27/2015 04:20 AM, Vivianne Fonte wrote:
> > no me abren los contactos de gmail, que debo hacer
> > 
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Re: add telegram to pidgin

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, August 18, 2015 a las 07:14:54PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

 Your BB email app is as broken as it violates privacy. Look, it puts
 your message below my signature which let your message appear as my
 text. ¡Qie asco!
 
 Your statement above about contacts/privacy is nonsense. Imagine your
 boss calls (and is in your contacts) and the provider says to him: your
 employee does not pick up the call. Do you want this?

In addition, why do you think Pidgin allows the user to set the state
'invisible'?

But, I don't know if Pidgin was ported to that BB device or
if the porter has disabled that feature for the BB users so that they
are always visible when connected.

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Re: add telegram to pidgin

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, August 18, 2015 a las 12:35:08AM +0430, Javid Java escribió:

 Hello
 I love your program
 You can add a telegram to the pidgin?

I do like pidgin too.

I want to make a warning against Telegram. It violates the privacy of
you in two matters:

1. It shows to the sender (with read confirmation) that you have read
the message of the sender. I contacted Telegram.org and they claim that
this is not a bug, but a feature. You can not disable this feature.

2. It shows to at least all your contacts (I think even to everyone who
knows your mobile number) that you are online and you can not disable
this either.

matthias

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Re: add telegram to pidgin

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, August 18, 2015 a las 08:55:30AM -0700, Richard Vickery 
escribió:

 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the TELUS network.
   Original Message  
 From: Matthias Apitz
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 08:28
 To: Richard Vickery
 Reply To: Matthias Apitz
 Cc: Matthias Apitz; Javid Java; support@pidgin.im
 Subject: Re: add telegram to pidgin
 
 El día Tuesday, August 18, 2015 a las 07:40:51AM -0700, Richard Vickery 
 escribió:
 
  One of the great benefits of BlackBerry Messenger is that‎ you can notice 
  that your contact is online and has read your message; else how do you 
  really communicate?
 
 this is the same violation of privacy; and to answer your question: I
 send a msg/mail and wait for the answer;
 
 imagine tomorrow you will get a voice call, which you do not want to
 pick up for whatever reason, and the provider says to the caller: we let
 it ring and we know the person heared it, but the person did not wante
 to answer the call; is this what you want?
 
 
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 It's only my personal contacts that can ‎see whether I'm online, and crackers 
 that care. If you want the anonymity you speak of, get rid of your computer 
 or its Internet-connection components. Else your privacy is a farce; there 
 is no such thing 

Your BB email app is as broken as it violates privacy. Look, it puts
your message below my signature which let your message appear as my
text. ¡Qie asco!

Your statement above about contacts/privacy is nonsense. Imagine your
boss calls (and is in your contacts) and the provider says to him: your
employee does not pick up the call. Do you want this?

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Re: add telegram to pidgin

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, August 18, 2015 a las 07:40:51AM -0700, Richard Vickery 
escribió:

 One of the great benefits of BlackBerry Messenger is that‎ you can notice 
 that your contact is online and has read your message; else how do you really 
 communicate?

this is the same violation of privacy; and to answer your question: I
send a msg/mail and wait for the answer;

imagine tomorrow you will get a voice call, which you do not want to
pick up for whatever reason, and the provider says to the caller: we let
it ring and we know the person heared it, but the person did not wante
to answer the call; is this what you want?


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Re: Pidgin for Smartphone

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

May I add to the question, if there is work in progress for a Pidgin app 
for the BQ E4.5 Ubuntu phone? The problem for sure would be the lack of a 
X11 server (it is running a Mir server), and other infrastructure


Thanks

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Re: Fw: pidgin

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, April 08, 2015 a las 09:14:05AM +0300, Shlomi Fish escribió:

 Please reply to list/all recipients. See:
 
 http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/netiquette/email/reply-to-list.html

yep; and do not top post:
http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#toppost

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Re: Fw: pidgin

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, April 08, 2015 a las 08:03:34PM +, Mike Shick escribió:

 
 Any help regarding the original issue?  Rules are nice.  Solution would be 
 better :)

And what was the original issue? I very seldom open mails which just say
as Subject 'pidgin' or 'I have a problem'. 

And btw: If you  reply to  some mail, the lines of the original
mail should start with   as you see above. If your mail user agent is
not capable doing this for you on the fly, just use another one or even another
operating system. It looks like your are using Microsoft software, so
ask or blame them for that.

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Re: MSN server

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, December 20, 2014 a las 07:18:41PM +, STEPHEN escribió:

 I keep on getting this message when trying to sign into my hotmail. 
 Connection error from Notification server:
 Connection refused. I currently have 2.10.11 which was suppose to fix this 
 error. thanks for your time.
  

Go to Edit Account, tab Advanced, tick the box 'HTTP method' (without
removing the port number 1863); save and reconnect; this worked for me.

HIH

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Re: problem compiling pidgin 2.10.10

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, November 22, 2014 a las 09:55:16AM -0500, Ethan Blanton 
escribió:

CCLD finch
  /usr/bin/ld: i: invalid DSO for symbol `cur_term' definition
  /usr/local/lib/libtinfow.so.5.9: could not read symbols: Bad value
  cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
  gmake[3]: *** [finch] Error 1
 
 There's a lot of stuff on the web about this.  I don't understand why
 you're getting that specific error, but it appears to be a missing
 library on the link line.  This likely means that the Pidgin configure
 scripts aren't finding something that they probably don't know to look
 for; I'm not sure exactly how this is happening.

The linkage command is in both cases (the good and the broken) the same:

/bin/sh ../libtool --silent --silent --tag=CC --mode=link cc -g 
-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include/ncursesw -export-dynamic -L/usr/local/lib 
-L/usr/local/lib/nss -o finch gntaccount.o gntblist.o gntcertmgr.o gntconn.o 
gntconv.o gntdebug.o gntft.o finch.o gntidle.o gntlog.o gntmedia.o gntnotify.o 
gntplugin.o gntpounce.o gntprefs.o gntrequest.o gntroomlist.o gntsound.o 
gntstatus.o gntui.o -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lgobject-2.0 -L/usr/local/lib 
-lglib-2.0 -lintl   -lintl -lgobject-2.0 -Wl,--export-dynamic -lgmodule-2.0 
-lgthread-2.0 -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-2.0 -lintl   -L/usr/local/lib 
-lxml2 -lncursesw -lpanelw -lgstreamer-0.10 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 
-lgthread-2.0 -pthread -lglib-2.0 -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -lxml2 
./libgnt/libgnt.la ../libpurple/libpurple.la -lm 

so the problem must either be in one of the *.o file or in one of the two local
libs ./libgnt/libgnt.la ../libpurple/libpurple.la; needs further
debugging

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Re: problem compiling pidgin 2.10.10

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, November 22, 2014 a las 09:55:16AM -0500, Ethan Blanton 
escribió:

CCLD finch
  /usr/bin/ld: i: invalid DSO for symbol `cur_term' definition
  /usr/local/lib/libtinfow.so.5.9: could not read symbols: Bad value
  cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
  gmake[3]: *** [finch] Error 1
 
 There's a lot of stuff on the web about this.  I don't understand why
 you're getting that specific error, but it appears to be a missing
 library on the link line.  This likely means that the Pidgin configure
 scripts aren't finding something that they probably don't know to look
 for; I'm not sure exactly how this is happening.

It works fine with a small change in the ./configure script:

$ diff configure.orig configure
17455c17455
   GNT_LIBS=-lncursesw
---
   GNT_LIBS=-lncursesw -ltinfow

Maybe it's an issue only with FreeBSD, or even with certain environments
of FreeBSD. It is fine without this change on 11-CURRENT, while the
above issue is with 10-ALPHA.

I think, we can close this thread. Thanks for your help.

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problem compiling pidgin 2.10.10

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

I have problems compiling pidgin 2.10.10 in one of my laptops, running
FreeBSD 10.x:

$ gmake
...
Making all in plugins
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/guru/pidgin-2.10.10/finch/plugins'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/guru/pidgin-2.10.10/finch/plugins'
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/guru/pidgin-2.10.10/finch'
  CCLD finch
/usr/bin/ld: i: invalid DSO for symbol `cur_term' definition
/usr/local/lib/libtinfow.so.5.9: could not read symbols: Bad value
cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
gmake[3]: *** [finch] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/guru/pidgin-2.10.10/finch'
gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/guru/pidgin-2.10.10/finch'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/guru/pidgin-2.10.10'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2

the shared lib /usr/local/lib/libtinfow.so.5.9 seems to be fine:

$ nm /usr/local/lib/libtinfow.so.5.9 | fgrep cur_term
00025b58 B cur_term

What could cause this problem? And can I somehow disable the use of
finch (I don't even know what this is, I only use MSN and Yahoo)?

Thanks

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Re: problem compiling pidgin 2.10.10

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, November 22, 2014 a las 09:55:16AM -0500, Ethan Blanton 
escribió:

  gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/guru/pidgin-2.10.10/finch'
CCLD finch
  /usr/bin/ld: i: invalid DSO for symbol `cur_term' definition
  /usr/local/lib/libtinfow.so.5.9: could not read symbols: Bad value
  cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
 
 There's a lot of stuff on the web about this.  I don't understand why
 you're getting that specific error, but it appears to be a missing
 library on the link line.  This likely means that the Pidgin configure
 scripts aren't finding something that they probably don't know to look
 for; I'm not sure exactly how this is happening.

Thanks for your kind reply and the hint re/ --disable-consoleui. I have
machines where the same source builds find and I will compare the
linkage command to figure out what it is missing. Maybe we can bring
light into it this way.

Thx

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Re: pidgin using excessive bandwidth with msn accounts

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, November 18, 2014 a las 08:04:44AM +, David Woolley 
escribió:

 Incidentally, the symptom reported this time was slightly different, 
 although it may be a slightly more technical report of the same problem..

I think, it is the same problem. Without the Application Id fix, pidgin
is sending again and again with high frequency the request for the
contact list (I saw this with --debug set). Pidgin should give up after
certain amount of retries.

HIH

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Re: pidgin using excessive bandwidth with msn accounts

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Monday, November 17, 2014 a las 08:47:54PM -0700, Ook escribió:

 Pidgin 2.10.10 on linux, and I think 2.10.9 on windows.
 
 I noticed today that when any msn account logged in, pidgin will sit 
 there and consume 200k-300k of bandwidth, even when idle. I disabled the 
 msn accounts, and the bandwidth consumption dropped to zero. This 
 started a few days or so ago (that I noticed) on all of my computers, 
 both linux and windows.
 
 Anyone else seen this?

I do not fully understand, why the people are posting to this list, but
do not read the postings in this list. Is the list policy set to allow
posting without subscribing?

It's boring to read again and again the same question which are already
fully answered.

matthias

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Re: Pidgin not working today

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Thursday, November 13, 2014 a las 09:10:03PM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

 I followed a hint in this page:
 
 http://messengergeek.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/most-third-party-messenger-clients-have-gone-offline-temporarily/
 
 and changed the ID to 484AAC02-7F59-41B7-9601-772045DCC569, recompiled
 pidgin 2.10.10 from the official sources and it works again.

A short note on this for Ubuntu or Linux users (I normally use FreeBSD):

I've compiled Pidgin on the Ubuntu 14.04 laptop of my wife and it turned out
that the normal Ubuntu distribution of Pidgin is installed below
/usr/lib, while your compilation from source will end up below
/usr/local/lib; especially the libpurple.so will be in the way and your
new compiled Pidgin will not work with MSN until you 'atp-get remove ...'
pidgin *and* the libpurple packages.

HIH 

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Re: Pidgin not working today

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Thursday, November 13, 2014 a las 08:25:16AM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

 I have (had) a Skype account and a MS$ accout xxx...@hotmail.com; 
 I logged in now for the 1st time into Skype using the MS$ account and
 they combined now somehow the old Skype account with the MS$ account and I can
 only login into Skype now with the xxx...@hotmail.com
 credentials.
 
 Pidgin tries to use the MS$ credentials, but can't sign in. The --debug
 log is attached. My Pidigin version is 2.10.9 on FreeBSD 11-CURRENT.

That I could not login was caused by some additional security question
because it was the 1st time that I logged in from this IP; I managed
this by signing in with a browser and can now connect to the MS$ account
again; but it gives an endlos loop while fetching the contact list:

(10:03:16) msn: S: NS 000: USR 7 OK ...@hotmail.com 1 0
(10:03:16) msn: S: NS 000: SBS 0 null
(10:03:16) msn: Processing SBS...
(10:03:16) msn: S: NS 000: MSG Hotmail Hotmail 1182
(10:03:16) msn: Processing MSG...
(10:03:16) msn: Getting Contact List.
(10:03:17) msn: S: NS 000: UBX 1:...@hotmail.com 0
(10:03:17) msn: UBX received.
(10:03:18) msn: Got the contact list!
(10:03:18) msn: Retrieving contact list failed: Invalid Application
Header Application ID is either not defined in database or blocked from
access.
(10:03:18) msn: Getting Contact List.
(10:03:18) msn: Got the contact list!
(10:03:18) msn: Retrieving contact list failed: Invalid Application
Header Application ID is either not defined in database or blocked from
access.
(10:03:18) msn: Getting Contact List.
(10:03:19) msn: Got the contact list!
(10:03:19) msn: Retrieving contact list failed: Invalid Application
Header Application ID is either not defined in database or blocked from
access.


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Re: Pidgin not working today

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Thursday, November 13, 2014 a las 10:08:23AM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

 That I could not login was caused by some additional security question
 because it was the 1st time that I logged in from this IP; I managed
 this by signing in with a browser and can now connect to the MS$ account
 again; but it gives an endlos loop while fetching the contact list:
 
 (10:03:16) msn: S: NS 000: USR 7 OK ...@hotmail.com 1 0
 (10:03:16) msn: S: NS 000: SBS 0 null
 (10:03:16) msn: Processing SBS...
 (10:03:16) msn: S: NS 000: MSG Hotmail Hotmail 1182
 (10:03:16) msn: Processing MSG...
 (10:03:16) msn: Getting Contact List.
 (10:03:17) msn: S: NS 000: UBX 1:...@hotmail.com 0
 (10:03:17) msn: UBX received.
 (10:03:18) msn: Got the contact list!
 (10:03:18) msn: Retrieving contact list failed: Invalid Application
 Header Application ID is either not defined in database or blocked from
 access.
 (10:03:18) msn: Getting Contact List.
 (10:03:18) msn: Got the contact list!
 (10:03:18) msn: Retrieving contact list failed: Invalid Application
 Header Application ID is either not defined in database or blocked from
 access.

The ApplicationId is defined in libpurple/protocols/msn/contact.h as

#define MSN_APPLICATION_ID CFE80F9D-180F-4399-82AB-413F33A1FA11

it looks like this is not valid / accepted anymore by MS$

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Re: Pidgin not working today

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Thursday, November 13, 2014 a las 03:24:00PM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

 The ApplicationId is defined in libpurple/protocols/msn/contact.h as
 
 #define MSN_APPLICATION_ID CFE80F9D-180F-4399-82AB-413F33A1FA11
 
 it looks like this is not valid / accepted anymore by MS$

I followed a hint in this page:

http://messengergeek.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/most-third-party-messenger-clients-have-gone-offline-temporarily/

and changed the ID to 484AAC02-7F59-41B7-9601-772045DCC569, recompiled
pidgin 2.10.10 from the official sources and it works again.

HIH

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Re: Pidgin not working today

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, November 12, 2014 a las 03:47:40PM -0800, Makoto escribió:

 On 11/12/2014 01:47 PM, Chris Garriss wrote:
  I think the real issue is that no one I have talked to today has been
  able to use msn, hotmail, etc. accounts that had been previously set up
  and working.  No, it is not Pidgin per se, and Pidgin is not the
  carrier, but does anyone know of changes that MSFT might have made?  If
  I recall a few years ago MSFT made some changes and for a period of time
  you could not use any of the accounts using the Pidgin application -
  there were some incompatibilities.
 
 After Microsoft acquired Skype, and tried to convert all of its MSN 
 Messenger users to Skype accounts, everyone's ability to use MSN 
 Messenger accounts with Pidgin just seems to stop working at a random 
 point in time.
 You -may- be able to 'fix' it by logging into those accounts with the 
 official Skype client, then seeing if the accounts will work normally 
 with Pidgin afterward.  No guarantees, unfortunately.

I have (had) a Skype account and a MS$ accout xxx...@hotmail.com; 
I logged in now for the 1st time into Skype using the MS$ account and
they combined now somehow the old Skype account with the MS$ account and I can
only login into Skype now with the xxx...@hotmail.com
credentials.

Pidgin tries to use the MS$ credentials, but can't sign in. The --debug
log is attached. My Pidigin version is 2.10.9 on FreeBSD 11-CURRENT.

We are logged out, I think. It's of no use to cry. We should work for
OpenSource solutions and services.

matthias

(08:12:41) msn: new httpconn (0x2f0478d0)
(08:12:42) msn: C: NS 000: VER 1 MSNP18 CVR0
(08:12:43) msn: S: NS 000: VER 1 MSNP18
(08:12:43) msn: Negotiated protocol version 18 with the server.
(08:12:43) msn: C: NS 000: CVR 2 0x0409 winnt 5.1 i386 MSNMSGR 8.5.1302 BC01 
xxx...@hotmail.com
(08:12:45) msn: S: NS 000: CVR 2 20.0.0001 20.0.0001 20.0.0001 
http://skype.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/C/E/F/CEFA5C04-05BE-4347-9857-C860CFBE897B/SkypeSetupFull(6.3.73.105)(Trackable457)trackable.exe
 http://download.live.com/?sku=messenger
(08:12:45) msn: C: NS 000: USR 3 SSO I xxx...@hotmail.com
(08:12:45) msn: S: NS 000: XFR 3 NS 157.56.192.170:1863 U D
(08:12:46) msn: C: NS 000: VER 4 MSNP18 CVR0
(08:12:47) msn: S: NS 000: VER 4 MSNP18
(08:12:47) msn: Negotiated protocol version 18 with the server.
(08:12:47) msn: C: NS 000: CVR 5 0x0409 winnt 5.1 i386 MSNMSGR 8.5.1302 BC01 
xxx...@hotmail.com
(08:12:47) msn: S: NS 000: CVR 5 20.0.0001 20.0.0001 20.0.0001 
http://skype.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/C/E/F/CEFA5C04-05BE-4347-9857-C860CFBE897B/SkypeSetupFull(6.3.73.105)(Trackable457)trackable.exe
 http://download.live.com/?sku=messenger
(08:12:47) msn: C: NS 000: USR 6 SSO I xxx...@hotmail.com
(08:12:48) msn: S: NS 000: GCF 0 5900
(08:12:48) msn: Processing GCF command
(08:12:49) msn: S: NS 000: USR 6 SSO S MBI_KEY 
9/Zqvvjied8ML/Yf1sDo3OT7LetXkwZwIuocxzYznUOKWNica5UZqmdXNh5eVOH9
(08:12:49) msn: Starting Windows Live ID authentication
(08:12:49) msn: Logging on xxx...@hotmail.com, with policy 
'MBI_KEY', nonce 
'9/Zqvvjied8ML/Yf1sDo3OT7LetXkwZwIuocxzYznUOKWNica5UZqmdXNh5eVOH9'
(08:12:51) msn: C: NS 000: OUT
(08:12:51) msn: destroy the OIM 0x2f0762a0
(08:12:51) msn: destroy httpconn (0x2f0478d0)


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Re: auto-login

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Friday, July 25, 2014 a las 09:32:18PM +, Cyndy Lewis escribió:

How can I get Pidgin to start automatically when I log in on my
computer?  I don’t necessarily want it to pop up on screen, but it
should show that I am available.
 
 
Thank you,
 
Cyndy Lewis
 
 
IT Manager

Cyndy,

Being an IT Manager, don't you think so that you should at least say on
which Operating System you are using Pidgin? On Linux, on FreeBSD, or on
some other system, bad designed system, which I do not wanna call OS?

HIH

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Re: Yahoo Connection Refused Win 7 Pidgin 2.10.6 AND 2.10.9

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, June 28, 2014 a las 06:01:27PM +0200, Yngve Spjeld Landro 
escribió:

 Paul Suliin psul...@gmail.com skreiv Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:05:12 +0200
 
  I'm sorry, what is my local red?
 
 Probably Spanish for network :-)

Yes, sorry. I wanted to say LAN and was unsure if the OP understands
'LAN'. That's why I changed it for 'local network' and while typing it,
se me cruzaron dos cables, wrong cables got connected :-)

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Re: Yahoo Connection Refused Win 7 Pidgin 2.10.6 AND 2.10.9

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Friday, June 27, 2014 a las 04:35:17PM -0600, Paul Suliin escribió:

I am getting Unable to connect. Connection refused errors when
attempting to log in to Yahoo.Â
I am running Windows 7.Â
This is a new problem. Yesterday was fine.Â
I was running Pidgin 2.10.6, then upgraded to 2.10.9 hoping to fix the
problem. The problem continues.
This does not appear to be an account issue. The issue occurs on
multiple Yahoo accounts with Pidgin but does not happen with Yahoo's
Web Messenger. I am also able to log in to my email without a hitch.

Looks like a local firewall issue, either in your Win7 itself, or your
local red.

matthias

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Re: Mobile Devices

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Sunday, May 04, 2014 a las 09:16:55AM -0700, Dawn McReynolds escribió:

Are there any mobile devices that I can use Pidgin?

Pidgin runs on my Openmoko Freerunner:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.unixarea.de/Pidgin-SHR-1.png
http://www.unixarea.de/Pidgin-SHR-2.png

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Re: Install on android

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El día Tuesday, December 31, 2013 a las 04:01:04PM -0600, Wade Smart escribió:

 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Виктор Шевцов viktorwinne...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  Hello. How to install pidgin on android? Thanks.
 
 
  ___
 
 You cant. Its not available for Android unfortunately.

Unfortunately? Fortunately there are alternatives, OpenSource cellphones
running Linux and have Pidgin installed.

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Re: Install on android

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, December 31, 2013 a las 11:08:11PM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

  You cant. Its not available for Android unfortunately.
 
 Unfortunately? Fortunately there are alternatives, OpenSource cellphones
 running Linux and have Pidgin installed.

http://www.unixarea.de/Pidgin-SHR-1.png
http://www.unixarea.de/Pidgin-SHR-2.png

:-)

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Re: Last Seen Time Incorrect

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, December 21, 2013 a las 02:24:58PM -0500, Ethan Blanton 
escribió:

 JoyceAndMichael.us spake unto us the following wisdom:
  I use Pidgin to check on when my elderly father was last on the computer-
  
  Last seen is often way-off.  Example he sent an email 7 hours ago but Last
  Seen is 1 day and 2 hours -  It was correct 7 hours ago.
 
 We can only report what the server tells us.  The server is apparently
 telling us something inconsistent.

Maybe he is connecting as invisible?

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Re: Suggestion

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, November 12, 2013 a las 10:50:11PM +, David Woolley 
escribió:

 Do you know someone with the relevant programming skills who is
 prepared to do the work for free?
 
 The Android uses Java for applications and has its own widget
 library. Pidgin is written in C and uses the gtk+ (or is that gtk2+)
 widget library.  An Android port would, essentially, be a completely
 new program.

But Android is based on Linux... Couldn't be ported the whole
infrastructure (gtk+, ...) to Android, as it works for me on
FreeBSD 10-CURRENT as well. An X11 server seems to exist for Android...

Thx

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Re: [dkim] Re: Can't connect to MSN account

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El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 12:10:28PM -0800, Makoto escribió:

 On 10/14/2013 01:20 AM, David Balažic wrote:
  Hi!
 
  FYI:
 
  While I (and others) reported in august that the MSN service is closed
  (at least in Europe), these days I noticed I can connect again to my MSN
  account (using Pidgin, the same settings as before).
 
  So either they were reopened or never really closed.
 
 
 Hmm... that's weird.  I'd actually tried to re-enable my MSN account in 
 Pidgin and connect (to test) about two or so days ago, before I finally 
 decided to import it to Skype, and it didn't work.  But, I tried again 
 just now, and it did connect.  Unfortunately, none of my contacts appear 
 online, so I can't test actual IMs.
 
 ...

Until today I connected always to my MSN account with pidgin without
facing any change.

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Re: Fwd: about accounts file

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, August 24, 2013 a las 03:53:21PM -0400, Ethan Blanton escribió:

 Tres Finocchiaro spake unto us the following wisdom:
  I've never much understood Pidgins perspective on this.  Even base64 is
  obscure enough to keep a human from reading it over the shoulder.
 
 Unless your password is very, very bad, a base64 encoding of the
 password should be of roughly similar complexity.  Therefore, anyone
 who can remember your password can remember the base64 -- and reverse
 it.

Not sure about this;

$ echo password | openssl enc -base64
cGFzc3dvcmQK

While one can easy see with a short eye shoot and remember the token
'password', it is not so easy pickup from the screen the token 
'cGFzc3dvcmQK'.

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Re: Fwd: about accounts file

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Sunday, August 25, 2013 a las 09:04:42AM -0400, Ethan Blanton escribió:

 Right -- if your passwords are *really really bad* and stupid, it
 matters.  If that's the case, though, you need to get new passwords
 ASAP.  My passwords are things like Oj4=puC/8jq, which is of similar
 complexity to that base64 string.  Please reread my original
 statement.

Not really of the same complexity:

$ pwgen 8 8
Aishaem9 es1iHaod oiVie3ah daith5Oh IHooZ9Sh ieDao2po oHeepae0 xainaXo5
$ echo iZeetah8 | openssl enc -base64
aVplZXRhaDgK

$ echo 'Oj4=puC/8jq' | openssl enc -base64
T2o0PXB1Qy84anEK

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Re: Fwd: about accounts file

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Sunday, August 25, 2013 a las 12:49:45PM -0400, Ethan Blanton escribió:

 Matthias Apitz spake unto us the following wisdom:
  $ echo 'Oj4=puC/8jq' | openssl enc -base64
  T2o0PXB1Qy84anEK
 
 If your assertion is that someone will remember Oj4=puC/8jq but not
 T2o0PXB1Qy84anEK, then your argument has descended into the realm of
 the absurd.  To effectively snatch either one they're going to have to
 either see it for a long time, see it many times, or take some sort of
 photo/record.

I think 'Oj4=puC/8jq' is much easier to memorize due to the fact, that
it has 3 groups of 3 chars each: Oj4 puC 8jq, separated by '=' and '/',
while the token T2o0PXB1Qy84anEK is much complex to memorize, don't
you agree?

Btw: I'm fine with storing the pws in clear text in pidgin, because
it is a personal computer, and one will not bring them on the screen
without knowing why he/she is doing that.

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Re: pidgin not started

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El día Tuesday, May 07, 2013 a las 10:06:30AM +0400, dawliev escribió:

 Hello!
 # pidgin
 No protocol specified
 No protocol specified
 
 (Pidgin:11582): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_display_get_name: assertion 
 `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
 Pidgin 2.10.3

Hi,

Was your X11 desktop started as user root (which would be a very bad
idea)? Please show the output of:

# env | fgrep DISPLAY
# xclock

and/or start the X11 desktop as normal user and launch pidgin as the
same ordinary user.

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Re: pidgin and VPN issues.

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El día Wednesday, April 17, 2013 a las 11:39:17PM -0700, Mark Doliner escribió:

 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Richard Allen r...@ra.is wrote:
  I'm using pidgin on Fedora 18 (This was also an issue in 17).My work 
  requires me to fire up multiple VPN profiles each day.  Normally this is 
  fine.  However when disengaging the VPN pidgin tends to lock up.  This 
  happens both with Cisco compatible (vpnc) profiles and also Anyconnect 
  profiles.I use network manager for all VPN needs.
 
  When pidgin is frozen, there is no indication in the GUI (i.e. I dont 
  notice anything) and pidgin is unkillable.   I have to use kill -9 to stop 
  it.
 
  Is this a known issue or are there any workarounds?

IMHO this sounds like established TCP connections are terminated by the
VPN down/change and some layer in pidgin is waiting (for ever) for a
response. One could watch with TCPDUMP if this is true.

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Re: Pidgin policy on logo usage.

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El día Wednesday, April 10, 2013 a las 11:39:26PM -0700, Mark Doliner escribió:

  I'm creating t-shirts to promote and fundraise for open source
  projects, and I'd like to do this for Pidgin if it's permissible.
 
 Sounds great to me!  Good luck!

Hi Mark,

What about offering them to the Pidgin's community, I'd need size L for
my wife and XXL for me. Would be a nice gift to my wife :-)

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Re: Pidgin for Blackberry 10

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El día Wednesday, April 10, 2013 a las 10:42:32AM -0700, Dennis Carr escribió:

 
 The general rule as I understand it is that there are no plans to release for 
 any mobile platform.

Pidgin is released also in source code and is compiled based on this for
the Linux distributions which run on the OpenSource mobile (cellphone)
Openmoko Freerunner

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pidgin

HIH

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the meaning of the contact icons

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Hello,

I have a contact in Pidgin with MSN; it shows always two small icons
with the contact: the avatar of the person and the logo of MSN; but,
sometimes it shows a third one on the left side, just a blue filled
circle; see attachment;

What does it mean this blue circle?

Btw: Why is MSN still working, don't they announced to shoot it down on
March 15?

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Re: Problem in Pidgin

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El día Thursday, April 04, 2013 a las 12:26:51AM -0700, Mark Doliner escribió:

 On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Asha Bhat asha.p.b...@oracle.com wrote:
  Everytime I need to uninstall and install pidgin instance.
 
 Why?

I think this is one of the typically attitudes of Windows users to solve
any kind of problem; another is reboot. Maybe, both are even official
recommendations of M$ and/or IT departments running Windows only.

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Re: Load onto Iphone

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El día Tuesday, March 26, 2013 a las 12:13:31PM -0700, Mark Stoll escribió:

 How do I load Pidgin to the Iphone?

You can't execute Pidgin on your iSlave phone, and that's fine.

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Re: Pidgin Mobile Please

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El día Thursday, February 28, 2013 a las 06:56:35AM -0500, John Bailey escribió:

 On 02/28/2013 06:29 AM, Wavelabs Studios wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am requesting to have Pidgin on iPOD, iPhone and iPAD.
  Some other people made some other deviations of Pidgin, but they either 
  crash,
  dont work, dont work properly, or just plain garbage.
  
  So I am asking to please make a Mobile version of Pidgin.
  This way, it would be a official version.
  Thank you.
 
 It cannot and will not be done.  See
 https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/WhyNoiOSVersion.

Thank you. No more iSlaves, please!

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Re: I How do I set up Pidgin on the DROID X?

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El día Monday, January 28, 2013 a las 07:33:18PM +, Brian Morrison escribió:

 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:19:45 -0800 (PST)
 Kim Bodine wrote:
 
  How do I set up Pidgin on the DROID X? 
  
 
 There is no Pidgin version for Android, so you cannot.

My Openmoko Freerunner http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page
is running the SHR distribution and has pidgin installed; Ofc this is a
real and OpenSource Linux and not an Android; one should not use any
Android at all, only OpenSource phones with OpenSource apps, or a POTS
phones; you will never know what Android or iOS phones are doing for
you...

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Re: I How do I set up Pidgin on the DROID X?

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El día Monday, January 28, 2013 a las 02:55:39PM -0500, Tres Finocchiaro 
escribió:

 
  one should not use any Android at all, only OpenSource phones with
  OpenSource apps, or a POTS phones
 
 
 This is a big pragmatic.  Please answer the OPs question an move on.  The
 phones you are advertising are off topic and could be considered as spam.

This is no advertisement, but only a wise warning;

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unloading MSN contacts' mail addrs

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Hello,

Is there a way to unload the mail addrs of all my MSN contacts in Pidgin
to an ASCII file? This is with 2.10.0 on FreeBSD.

Thanks

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Re: unloading MSN contacts' mail addrs

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El día Tuesday, January 22, 2013 a las 02:19:03AM -0600, Kevin Stange escribió:

 On 01/22/2013 02:08 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  Is there a way to unload the mail addrs of all my MSN contacts in Pidgin
  to an ASCII file? This is with 2.10.0 on FreeBSD.
 
 You can just extract this data from the blist.xml file, in the sense
 that the MSN user IDs are most likely email addresses of those people.

Yeah! UNIX is simple, as always. A simple

$ fgrep '@' blist.xml | fgrep name

does what I want. Thanks for this pointer.

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Re: problems with MSN certificate chain

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El día Saturday, January 19, 2013 a las 12:43:00PM +, David Woolley 
escribió:

 David Woolley wrote:
 
  There are still a lot of expired certificates.
  
 
 A lot turns out to be two, the two that I sampled, both MSN related 
 intermediate ones:
 
 Microsoft_Internet_Authority.pem:
  Not After : Feb 19 18:24:53 2011 GMT
 
 Microsoft_Secure_Server_Authority.pem:
  Not After : Feb 19 18:24:53 2011 GMT
 
 I may raise a bug report, but first I have to find out if I ever 
 registered, and if so, what user name I used, or register again, so if 
 someone has an account and can get in first, I'd appreciate it.
 
   for i in *.pem; do echo $i: ; openssl x509 -text -in $i | grep 
 After; done

I have in addition in /usr/local/share/purple/ca-certs:

Verisign_RSA_Secure_Server_CA.pem: 
Not After : Jan  7 23:59:59 2010 GMT

and have an account at https://developer.pidgin.im/
Do you want me to file a report there?

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problems with MSN certificate chain

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Hello,

Since today morning I can't connect to MSN anymore; it says that the
certificates can't be validated;

This is with pidgin 2.10.x

Any thing I can do? Thanks

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Re: problems with MSN certificate chain

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El día Friday, January 18, 2013 a las 08:52:16AM -0500, Ethan Blanton escribió:

 David Woolley spake unto us the following wisdom:
  Looking at the certificate, I think the problem is that the
  certificate is for contacts.msn.com, but the server is
  local-bay.contacts.msn.com. An earlier certificate for a server in
  the contacts.msn.com domain (omega.contacts.msn.com) seems to be a
  wild card certificate (Subject: *.contacts.msn.com).
  
  Although the lack of wild card may be a problem, based on off list
  information from Matthias, it looks like Pidgin doesn't use the OS
  root certificates, even on Windows.
 
 Pidgin doesn't use the OS root certificates *only* on Windows.

Hi Ethan,
I'm not a native English and do not understand your phrase; could you
please explain what you say; thanks

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Re: problems with MSN certificate chain

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El día Friday, January 18, 2013 a las 04:34:03PM +, David Woolley escribió:

 Probably because one would have to use all of the Windows public key 
 infrastructure, instead of the open source implementation.
 
 The non-Windows ones are probably designed for use with OpenSSL.
 
 In Matthias' case, he ran a system call trace, and Pidgin is using 
 /usr/local/share/purple/ca-certs, which is clearly a private store in 
 Pidgin.  This is on FreeBSD.

Note: the directory /usr/local/share/purple/ca-certs is not writeable
by normal users, it is owned by 'root'; i.e. the files
there have been stored when I compiled(!) and installed pidgin in December 2011

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Re: My account is disabled

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El día Thursday, January 17, 2013 a las 01:35:02AM -0700, Felicia Q. escribió:

 I just downloaded and installed this, and wanted to put in a Yahoo IM 
 account, I created it and now it says it’s disabled. Help?

Can you login to Yahoo without Pidgin? I can imagine if you have used in
Pidgin 3 times the wrong password, that Yahoo blocks the account and you
must use the Yahoo way to unlock it (secret questions, alternate
mailbox, etc.). There is no way with Pidgin to unlock your account if it
is really locked.

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Re: password

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El día Wednesday, January 02, 2013 a las 06:57:24PM +1100, graeme mills 
escribió:

 my messenger account cant enable because of invalid password and I dont know 
 correct password and there are no options to correct this problem

YOU have to know YOUR password for any service you use with any client,
pidgin (or any other client) can't help you on this; if you do not know
your password, please contact the service provider (if this is possible).

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Re: unable to conect to pidgin

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El día Monday, November 19, 2012 a las 10:53:39AM +, Brian Morrison 
escribió:

 On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:23:50 -0800 (PST)
 Nikitha Rao wrote:
 
  I am unable to conect to pidgin.
 
 You need to talk to the Oracle IT staff internally, and please ask them
 to stop Oracle staff coming to this support list for help with problems
 we cannot assist you with.

To the OP: Please watch what you are saying (and sending out of
Oracle.com); Pidgin is a client which connects to your configured
message services providers (like MSN, Yahoo, ...); saying 'I am unable to
connect to pidgin' is technically nonsense, because Pidgin is not a server
or service; or do you mean 'I am unable to connect my fingers or eyes to
the Pidgin client application'?

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Re: pidgin installer always crashes

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El día Tuesday, November 06, 2012 a las 07:45:21AM -0500, Daniel Atallah 
escribió:

 There haven't been any other reports of this, so my guess is that
 there must be an issue that happened when you downloaded it (and
 possibly you keep getting it from your cache instead of redownloading
 it).
 I'd recommend clearing your browser cache, then downloading the file
 again from a different sourceforge mirror:
 https://sourceforge.net/settings/mirror_choices?projectname=pidginfilename=Pidgin/2.10.6/pidgin-2.10.6-offline.exe
 

One should check the MD5 or SHA1 hash after down loading any
Windows binary;

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Re: pidgin installer always crashes

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El día Tuesday, November 06, 2012 a las 01:46:53PM -0500, Carrie Smith escribió:

 Take me off of this email list I have un subscribed several times and I am 
 still receiving them
 

Carrie,
I can't, and even if I could I would not do that. Instead of
top-posting to my mail, you should read the bottom lines of any mail of
the list where it says... see below.

HIH (I do not give up hope)

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Re: Yahoo issues

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El día Wednesday, October 31, 2012 a las 01:59:12PM -0700, Carlos Gutierrez 
Dominguez escribió:

 Hello guys.
 
 I'm trying to connect my Yahoo account into Pidgin, but it just does not
 work.is there any work around to get this done, I have the latest version
 from Pidgin.

Hello,

I have a lot of chats using Pidgin and my Yahoo account. If you say it
just does not work, does this mean that the mouse pointer is not moving
when you move the mouse, or what exactly?

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Re: Yahoo issues

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El día Wednesday, October 31, 2012 a las 02:12:26PM -0700, Carlos Gutierrez 
Dominguez escribió:

 Is not connectingat all to Yahoois says the connection is being
 refused
 
 (15:07:18) proxy: Error connecting to 98.136.48.36:5050 (Connection
 refused.).
 (15:07:18) proxy: Connection attempt failed: Connection refused.

Looks like a local firewall problem; check with a browser from your
Linux(?) workstation this URL:

http://98.136.48.36:5050/

What does it say?

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Re: messages sometimes are incoming twice

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El día Tuesday, October 23, 2012 a las 09:05:38AM -0400, Etan Reisner escribió:

 On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 03:19:34PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
  Sometimes, esp. while chatting with contacts in Latin America, I see
  messages incoming twice, like this example (Dali is the remote buddy):
 snip
  What is causing this? The contact goes via Yahoo and my Pidgin is 2.10.0
  on FreeBSD 10-current.
 
 This is likely Yahoo's doing. They had, last I knew at least, a hard-coded
 7-second resend timer on messages if they do not hear back from the
 recipient's client that they were received. So for conversations taking
 place over poorer network connections that timer will likely trigger more
 often than expected.
 
 It is always possible that this is pidgin's fault but I doubt it.

Ok; if I have some time I will try to catch such a situation with debug
log enabled; thanks

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Re: Log Files

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El día Tuesday, October 23, 2012 a las 02:40:40PM -0400, Etan Reisner escribió:

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:33:27PM -0500, Samuel Huewe wrote:
  I am wondering about where the chat logs are stored.  Where can this option 
  be looked at to see where the chat log files are stored and how to edit 
  where they are stored.
 
  Thank for all the help,
 
  Sam Huewe
 
 https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#WherearePidginssettingsandlogs
 
 https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#Wherearemysettingsanddataincludinglogssaved

But this is only for Windowse operating system... How do you know that the OP
is using such a system? :-)

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Re: Log Files

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El día Tuesday, October 23, 2012 a las 12:44:58PM -0800, Makoto escribió:

 On 10/23/2012 11:21 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#WherearePidginssettingsandlogs
 
  https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#Wherearemysettingsanddataincludinglogssaved
  But this is only for Windowse operating system... How do you know that 
  the OP
  is using such a system? :-)
 
 Hm?  The first FAQ question linked above is for Linux/Unix - note the 
 header just above it:
 
  Miscellaneous (Linux and Unix-like platforms)

Correct, I only checked (for fun) the 2nd URL. Should have payed more
attention. 

In any case, what I really wanted to point out: again someone is asking
for information or help without specifying the OS and more details of
the environment.

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Re: Log Files

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El día Tuesday, October 23, 2012 a las 01:08:04PM -0700, Dave Warren escribió:

 On 10/23/2012 12:52, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
  In any case, what I really wanted to point out: again someone is 
  asking for information or help without specifying the OS and more 
  details of the environment. matthias 
 
 Given that the original poster didn't mention their OS, is using 
 Outlook, and that ~90% of the desktop market uses Windows, it's 
 reasonable to assume Windows unless otherwise specified. Also consider 
 that users of less popular OSes are used to specifying their OS, whereas 
 Windows users usually don't, so this alone can be reasonably assumed to 
 be Windows more often than not ...

I do not question what you say, but do you think that someone asking for
help, even someone from the ~90% of the desktop market, has the right to
be lazy to provide information about the OS (and the used version of
pidgin)? That was my point concerning the OP.

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Re: Log Files

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El día Tuesday, October 23, 2012 a las 01:18:54PM -0700, Dave Warren escribió:

 On 10/23/2012 13:16, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  I do not question what you say, but do you think that someone asking for
  help, even someone from the ~90% of the desktop market, has the right to
  be lazy to provide information about the OS (and the used version of
  pidgin)? That was my point concerning the OP.
 
 I think it would be great if people would provide all the information 
 necessary. People don't. Why not collectively do our best to help them 
 anyway?

We do. And we should help them as well to ask better for support.

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messages sometimes are incoming twice

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Hi,

Sometimes, esp. while chatting with contacts in Latin America, I see
messages incoming twice, like this example (Dali is the remote buddy):

(21:19:28) guru: pues, acá en el otoño, con frío y un resfriado :-)
(21:19:44) Dali: si,por aca tambien es otoño
(21:19:49) Dali: con mucho sol, jejeje
(21:19:53) Dali: con mucho sol, jejeje
(21:38:41) guru: Dali, una pregunta
(21:39:20) Dali: si?
(21:39:25) Dali: si?

What is causing this? The contact goes via Yahoo and my Pidgin is 2.10.0
on FreeBSD 10-current.

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Re: Need Assistance: Save Chat Messages

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El día Tuesday, October 16, 2012 a las 10:58:25PM +0530, Kiran Ananthu escribió:

 Hi Team,
 
 I have pidgin and would like to know how to save chat messages into my 
 local folder. How can I later retrieve it?

Hi Kiran,

You do not say anything about the OS you are using (and so I supose it
is Windows, because Linux or FreBSD folks know that there are other OS
and would have mention this). On a normal Linux or FreeBSD OS the chat
dialogues are just plain UTF-8 text files and are store below:

~/.purple/logs/provider-name/your-account/remote-account/date.time.txt

You can later read them with any text tool, like for example 'vi'.

HIH

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Re: pidgin refuses to connect

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El día Wednesday, October 03, 2012 a las 03:59:42AM +1000, John Tate escribió:

 I run debian wheezy (testing) and the pidgin package provided does not
 connect. I've read that this could be because of a problem with dbus
 and/or NetworkManager and was instructed to run pidgin -f.
 
 With that, pidgin just doesn't connect and the list stays blank but it
 doesn't display a message about waiting for a connection anymore.

pidgin --debug

and check the output in the terminal session;

HIH

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Re: pidgin refuses to connect

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El día Wednesday, October 03, 2012 a las 04:19:19AM +1000, John Tate escribió:

 I don't see a single line related to dbus or network manager.
 
 john@hayek:~$ pidgin --debug

Do not top-post;

I do not see any line about a succesfull connection to any host;

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Re: Pidgin and Jabber

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El día Wednesday, August 29, 2012 a las 01:29:54PM -0500, John A. Wallace 
escribió:

 Yes, it was a jabber.org account. However, now I seem to have another
 problem with Pidgin although I tried completely uninstalling it and
 reinstalling to try fixing it without success. When Pidgin starts, a little
 icon appears in the notification area of my Windows Taskbar. When I
 right-click it to open the program for making configuration changes, nothing
 happens. I right-click and no menu appears allowing me to open the program.
 If I left-click or right click the icon, nothing happens. I cannot seem to
 get to the Pidgin account setup dialogue window any longer. As I said, I
 uninstalled and reinstalled the program, but nothing changed. I am running
 64-bit Windows 7.

I will never understand how people can think to solve a problem a
software has by uninstalling and reinstalling the piece of software en
cuestion. But anyway.

Try starting pidgin from a command line (also called DOS prompt) and
with debugging enabled (don't know how to enable this in Win, but
there is for sure a way to do). And watch what it is saying. In a normal
(read: in a UNIX) system it would be

$ pidgin --debug

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Re: Conectar con Gruvis

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El día Tuesday, July 17, 2012 a las 12:58:29PM -0700, Jimmy Alfaro Cruz 
escribió:

 Saludos,
 
 No se como conectar con www.gruvis.com es un chat que me gustaría tener en
 la aplicación no se si me puedan ayudar como hacer eso en su aplicación.
 
 Espero no estar molestando, muchas gracias y bendiciones.!!

Hola,

Deberías hablar cristiano, o sea inglés, en esta lista de correo.

Jimmy is asking how to connect to a chat www.gruvis.com.

HIH

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Re: My account is currently suspended.

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El día Tuesday, May 08, 2012 a las 06:19:09AM -0700, Nemle Productions escribió:

 
 
  
 I woke up this morning to discover I can not log into Pidgin using my main 
 AIM account. I can log into Pidgin with every other account I have linked, of 
 which include Yahoo and a few other AIM accounts. Just not the one. Every 
 time I try it gives me this message: Your account is currently suspended. I 
 can log in just fine through AIM messenger, Meebo and a few others I had my 
 boyfriend try for me. It's a purely Pidgin issue and with only this one 
 account. I use version 2.10.1 btw.


This does not has todo with Pidgin; Pidgin does not has any account, it
only *uses* the accounts you own and you have stored below Pidgin;

HIH

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Re: yahoo/firewall issues

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El día Saturday, April 14, 2012 a las 12:41:24PM -0700, donna smith escribió:

 you were no help to us. Don't understand what you are talking about.

When others should help you, you should provide the information (a
Pidgin debug log) you were asked for. Don't you agree?

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IRC and joining a group

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

I'm using pidgin 2.10.0 on FreeBSD 10-CURRENT, as well as an IRC client;
it signs in fine on start to irc.freenode.net; is there a way to configure a
default group it should join on start?

Thanks

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Re: IRC and joining a group

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El día Tuesday, March 27, 2012 a las 01:28:06PM +0200, David Balažic escribió:

  From: support-boun...@pidgin.im 
  [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Matthias Apitz
  Hello,
  
  I'm using pidgin 2.10.0 on FreeBSD 10-CURRENT, as well as an 
  IRC client;
  it signs in fine on start to irc.freenode.net; is there a way 
  to configure a
  default group it should join on start?
 
 I believe that can be set in the channel properties. (if not there yet, in 
 the Buffy list add a Chat (select the channel) and there is the option 
 Auto-Join - right click on the chat/channel in the budy list window)
 

Yes, now I have it. My problem was that I joined the IRC without having
a created a chat entry in the buddy list. One must create it and set the
option for it.

Thanks for your hint

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unwanted starts of chat

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

Using pidgin 2.9.0 on FreeBSD:
From time to time someone tries to start a chat with me, like this today
morning:

(03/03/2012 23:12:58) dianneellisu041:
3jceiw9dl#729709Hi.#fffcff8#184880=)#fafbfb1couaxr
www.ur2whamÂ.ÐsillywebcamkÐara.ÉinÖfoË/jnm`atbtqtfb#fffafdx7ln46#4803a0you
could
find#fdfafb9#011509somebody#fdfafck#A4488aover#fafdffi6#586494here.
you#fcfffaa#538553should#fffcfalm#7906a1consider#fcfafc7d#A999A4yourself#fcfcfdc#7179a7just#fffbfcq7#207408one#fcfdfaq#59A84atime.#fffcfdd#54Aa73try
to#fafbfd7#056000get#fefdfb3#673A86away#fafafasc#4446A8alot
more.#fbfffas#452295you#fbfcfa0#139306can#fffbfan#55594astart#fafafcy3#052098by#fafdfdm#316176finding#fbfafcv#144657a
woman#fbfafbbi#113136on#fdfbfb5#128940this
site#fctvttv1jomi3fgysqe

It comes via my Yahoo account, but I dont have (and dont want
'dianneellisu041') in my buddies. How this is possible at all that
someone unknown chat's me? And, what is this, phishing?

Thanks

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Re: Android Client

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, February 01, 2012 a las 11:59:45AM -0500, Pirate Russell 
escribió:

 I LOVE Pidgin for Linux, use it all the time.
 
 Will there be an Android client?  If so when?
 
 Thanks for a great product, at least half My life is happy!  ;-)
 
 Pirate

Hi Pirate,

Why not use a real Open Source Linux on your cellphone, like SHR
http://wiki.shr-project.org/trac
like I do on the Openmoko FR; it gives you as well our beloved Pidgin,
see these screens:

http://www.unixarea.de/Pidgin-SHR-1.png
http://www.unixarea.de/Pidgin-SHR-2.png

Nice, isn't it?

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Re: Checking On Ticket Status

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El día Tuesday, January 03, 2012 a las 09:38:07AM -0500, matthew.r...@jci.com 
escribió:

 brfont size=2 face=ArialbTicket #10447 (new defect)/b is
 something
 I am still having problems with. I am in a Lotus Sametime environment at
 work, and I cannot get Pidgin to do file transfer to or from someone on
 a Sametime client. I noticed that this ticket is 2 years old. Will this
 be fixed?/font
 br
 br
 brfont size=2 face=sans-serifMatthew Rohr/font

Please fix your MUA and let it only send text to mailing lists;
thanks in advance

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Re: webcam

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El día Saturday, December 03, 2011 a las 09:13:09PM -0800, Dennis Carr escribió:

 If I read this right, you attempted to install the Fonomo plugin for 
 Pidgin, but the link didn't work.
 
 Try http://fonomo.com/software/pidgin.html - this is the result of a 
 Google search.

The site has FTP links for a Windows binary and source code archive for
Linux as

ftp://ftp.grokthis.net/pub/fonomo/fonomo-pidgin-0.1.5.exe
ftp://ftp.grokthis.net/pub/fonomo/pidgin-fonomobutton-0.1.5.tar.bz2

and the host ftp.grokthis.net does not answer:

Connecting to ftp.grokthis.net|206.251.37.236|:21... failed: Connection
timed out.
Retrying

Does someone know another place for the file
pidgin-fonomobutton-0.1.5.tar.bz2 or can send it to me as private mail?
I'm willing to see if it compiles in FreeBSD's V4L stack too.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Netbook-friendliness

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El día Tuesday, November 01, 2011 a las 10:23:13AM -0400, Chris DeJoseph 
escribió:

 Slight issue with window sizes, where the longer windows such as the
 preferences window have the bottom cut off at netbook resolutions, to be
 able to click the Apply/Ok button in the preferences window, you have to
 have the task bar set to be hidden, even with doing so it is quite
 difficult to click the button, I suggest that the window height be reduced
 by about 15%

Your mail (and your header lines of your mail) does not say anything
about the operating system and desktop you are using. In mine (KDE on
FreeBSD) you can move the window by pressing the Alt key and left mouse
button together to move the window up a bit.

HIH

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Re: Facebook en Pidgin

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El día Wednesday, October 12, 2011 a las 08:59:11AM -0500, Carlos Alberto 
Vargas escribió:

 Saludos,
 
 quisiera ayuda para la configuracion del chat de facebook en pidgin, mi
 versión de pidgin es la *2.7.11* (libpurple 2.7.11)
 he seguidos muchos manuales, tutoriales pero ninguno ah funcionado.
 
 en espera de sus comentarios

Hola Carlos,

Esta es una lista de correos en Inglés y tendrías que preguntar en dicho
idioma. En cuanto a Facebook, si yo fuera tú, no lo usaría.

This is en English mailing list. Concerning Facebook, I would not use
it.

Saludos

matthias

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Re: plain txt passwords in .purple folder

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El día Wednesday, September 28, 2011 a las 05:15:18AM -0500, Kevin Stange 
escribió:

 On 09/28/2011 05:02 AM, James Monroe wrote:
  Just a heads up your program stored all my passwords (for pidgin) in
  plain txt in a file in the .purple directory.
 
 We are, of course, aware of this.  Please read:
 
 http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
 
  them for nefarious purposes. hash/md5 or something for the love of all
  things
  holy.
 
 If we hash your username and password, we can only submit the hashes
 back to the server because hashes cannot be transformed back to original
 values.  This means:
 
  1) If the server accepts them, the hashes are still plain-text login info
  2) You cannot login.
 
 What purpose would that serve?

Hello Kevin,

Maybe we could use GPG to crypt and store the clear text pw and the user
needs a passphrase to unlock the storage, i.e. decrypt it with GPG
again.

Thanks

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Re: icons/picture of the contacts

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El día Wednesday, July 06, 2011 a las 08:08:51PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

 
 Hello,
 
 I have in my netbook 2.7.11 and in my laptop 2.9.0 (both run different
 versions of FreeBSD too); I see a difference of the icons/picture of
 some contact:
 
 in 2.7.11 I see 3 pictures: a small cellphone, the MSN symbol and a
 picture of the contact (provided by the contact)
 
 in 2.9.0 I see only the MSN symbol:
 
 Of what is depending this?

Just for the record: It's a known issue:
http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/12999

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icons/picture of the contacts

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

I have in my netbook 2.7.11 and in my laptop 2.9.0 (both run different
versions of FreeBSD too); I see a difference of the icons/picture of
some contact:

in 2.7.11 I see 3 pictures: a small cellphone, the MSN symbol and a
picture of the contact (provided by the contact)

in 2.9.0 I see only the MSN symbol:

Of what is depending this?

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Re: Transferring Conversation Logs to Pidgin

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El día Tuesday, July 05, 2011 a las 10:54:55AM -0400, Nathan Brower escribió:

 Dear Sirs or Madams,
 
 Is it possible to transfer my Trillian logs to Pidgin?  I currently use
 Trillian for my GChat and Windows Live accounts and would like to switch to
 Pidgin.  I'd also like to transfer my chat logs so that I can search them
 from within Pidgin.  Please let me know if this is possible; I've checked
 the wiki and FAQs and could not find this issue being addressed.  Thanks
 much.
 
 Nate

You do not say anything about your Operating System; in a real one
(read: UNIX or Linux) the chat logs are just plain UTF-8 text files below
the dir ~/.purple/logs/[protocol]/[your-account]/[partner-account]/

HIH

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Re: pidgin 2.7

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El día Saturday, May 14, 2011 a las 09:55:13AM -0400, Jarvis Jones escribió:

 is there any plan for a build for older versions of ubuntu? it seems the
 older version of pidgin that i have from ubuntu doesnt work properly. i have
 juanty by the way. 9.04 is there a guide to building 2.7 for 9?

Normaly it should build fine with:

$ ./configure
$ gmake
# gamke install

Ofc the 'configure' is checking you installed environment for shared
libs, packages etc. and will tell you what's missing.

In FreeBSD 9-CURRENT I build 2.7.9 and 2.7.11 with these option:

$ CFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include' CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include' 
LDFLAGS='-L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib/nss'  ./configure --disable-nm 
--disable-tcl --enable-gnutls=yes --with-gnutls-libs=/usr/local/lib 
--disable-meanwhile

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Re: Setting up pidgin

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El día Wednesday, March 23, 2011 a las 07:33:04AM -0700, Jon McConnell escribió:

 
 I have a windows live account and cannot get it to let me set up the account, 
 what do i need to do? 

You have two options:
1) Read the documentation and help text (again).
2) Describe in detail what you have done and what is showing up as
error/problem.

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pidgin 2.7.11 FreeBSD webcamd

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

I've read that pidgin has support for video for some protocols (like for
example Gmail); can I check somehow without having an account in this
protocols if it works with FreeBSD's webcamd, for example in a local
test of the cam? I've not seen anything in the menus for this,

Btw: 2.7.11 compiles and works fine in 9-CURRENT

Thanks

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pidgin 2.7.9 FreeBSD 9-CURRENT utmpx.h

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

Pidgin 2.7.9 does not compile on FreeBSD 9-CURRENT because this does not
have utmp.h anymore; see http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsBrokenOnCurrent
for more details about the change from utmp.h to utmpx.h;

in our case it is enough to delete the line 33 in file
pidgin-2.7.9/libpurple/protocols/zephyr/Zinternal.c

For the rest it compiles fine and seems to work.

HIH

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Re: Cant see pictures of contacts in new update of pidgin.

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El día Thursday, December 30, 2010 a las 10:58:54AM +, Ragnar Hannes 
Gudmundsson escribió:

 Please tell me how can I resolve this issue.

You should tell the people you're asking for help about your Operating
System or the Windows version (note the small diff in my words :-)) and the
version of Pidgin you have updated to.

Just a hint

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Re: Pidgin 2.7.9 released

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El día Monday, December 27, 2010 a las 06:32:27AM -0500, John Bailey escribió:

 Pidgin 2.7.9 has been released.  The only changes in this release are
 translation updates and a fix for a security issue in the MSN protocol.  All
 users, MSN users in particular, are advised to upgrade.
 
 John
 

I've compiled from source on FreeBSD 8-CURRENT and it installs and
works fine.

Thanks

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Re: Pidgin 2.7.7 released!

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El día Thursday, November 25, 2010 a las 04:20:48PM +, Stu Tomlinson 
escribió:

 The string Bad signature for has been changed to Bad signature from
 in the above debug message, this suggests you are not using latest
 libpurple or not using latest gnutls plugin. (this change was actually
 made over 15 months ago!)
 
 There should also be an additional log entry here saying:
 (hh:mm:ss) gnutls: Dropping further peer certificates because the chain is 
 broken!
 
 Are you sure you are not using an older libpurple with current Pidgin?
 
 What does pidgin -v report as the versions of Pidgin  libpurple?
 Are you sure you don't have both self-compiled and distro-provided
 pidgin in your path and running the wrong one? Does running ldconfig
 as root fix pidgin 2.7.7 to link to correct libpurple 2.7.7 ?
 
 If libpurple version is correct are you sure the ssl-gnutls.so plugin is
 the one from 2.7.7? You'd probably have to check file timestamp to make
 sure it was compiled around the same time (it's in
 $prefix/lib/purple-2/ssl-gnutls.so)
 
 Please also check from running pidgin -d exactly which ssl-gnutls.so
 is being loaded.

I digged into this and it turned out that pidgin says:

g...@current:~ pidgin -v
Pidgin 2.7.7 (libpurple 2.7.7)
g...@current:~ ldd /usr/local/bin/pidgin | fgrep purple
libpurple.so.7 = /usr/local/lib/libpurple.so.7 (0x289e)

but the /usr/local/lib/libpurple.so.7 was an older one, installed from
the FreeBSD ports: libpurple-2.5.5_1; I deleted this package and compiled pidgin
again with:

$ CFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include' CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include' ./configure 
--disable-nm --disable-tcl --enable-gnutls=yes --with-gnutls-libs=/usr/local/lib

now it says:

g...@current:~ strings /usr/local/lib/libpurple.so.7 | fgrep Bad
...Bad or missing signature by %s

and pidgin uses ssl-gnutls.so:

g...@current:~ pidgin -d | fgrep gnutls
(10:10:44) plugins: probing /usr/local/lib/purple-2/ssl-gnutls.so
(10:10:45) plugins: Loading saved plugin /usr/local/lib/purple-2/ssl-gnutls.so

and it works fine now;

Thanks

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Re: Pidgin 2.7.7 released!

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El día Wednesday, November 24, 2010 a las 01:04:32AM -0500, John Bailey 
escribió:

 Hi all,
 
 I just pushed out the release of Pidgin 2.7.7.  We rushed a release out to do
 two important things--finish fixing the MSN certificate issue we thought we 
 had
 fixed for 2.7.6 and fix the AIM SSL Handshake Failure problem introduced in
 2.7.6.  There are also a couple minor crash fixes.
 
 Upgrade and enjoy!

Thank you! I can ACK that 2.7.7. fixes the MSN certificate issue (using
gnuTLS on FreeBSD 8.1)

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Re: Pidgin 2.7.7 released!

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El día Wednesday, November 24, 2010 a las 10:46:31AM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

 El día Wednesday, November 24, 2010 a las 01:04:32AM -0500, John Bailey 
 escribió:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I just pushed out the release of Pidgin 2.7.7.  We rushed a release out to 
  do
  two important things--finish fixing the MSN certificate issue we thought we 
  had
  fixed for 2.7.6 and fix the AIM SSL Handshake Failure problem introduced in
  2.7.6.  There are also a couple minor crash fixes.
  
  Upgrade and enjoy!
 
 Thank you! I can ACK that 2.7.7. fixes the MSN certificate issue (using
 gnuTLS on FreeBSD 8.1)

This was to early to say :-(

The problem still exists, here is a debug log (the cached certificate in
/home/guru/.purple/certificates/x509/tls_peers/omega.contacts.msn.com
was downloaded yesterday after deleting all files in
/home/guru/.purple/certificates/x509/tls_peers/):

(08:50:40) dns: Got response for 'omega.contacts.msn.com'
(08:50:40) dnsquery: IP resolved for omega.contacts.msn.com
(08:50:40) proxy: Attempting connection to 207.46.113.78
(08:50:40) proxy: Connecting to omega.contacts.msn.com:443 with no proxy
(08:50:40) proxy: Connection in progress
(08:50:40) proxy: Connecting to omega.contacts.msn.com:443.
(08:50:40) proxy: Connected to omega.contacts.msn.com:443.
(08:50:40) gnutls: Starting handshake with omega.contacts.msn.com
(08:50:41) util: Writing file blist.xml to directory /home/guru/.purple
(08:50:41) util: Writing file /home/guru/.purple/blist.xml
(08:50:41) gnutls: Handshake complete
(08:50:41) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
ac:7e:e4:5f:97:b8:7e:f0:0b:ac:a6:51:9f:ba:51:f0:ad:73:17:8b
(08:50:41) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
7e:8a:c2:9c:5a:32:8c:c2:71:a2:d9:4f:75:70:f7:a9:1b:f6:94:05
(08:50:41) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
3d:29:1d:b8:ee:22:be:e1:33:70:06:f2:ef:c6:f9:db:dd:03:bb:25
(08:50:41) gnutls: Peer provided 3 certs
(08:50:41) gnutls: Lvl 0 SHA1 fingerprint: 
ac:7e:e4:5f:97:b8:7e:f0:0b:ac:a6:51:9f:ba:51:f0:ad:73:17:8b
(08:50:41) gnutls: Serial: 7d:da:e0:49:00:08:00:01:c8:b9
(08:50:41) gnutls: Cert DN: C=US,ST=WA,L=Redmond,O=MSN,OU=MSN Contact 
Services,CN=*.contacts.msn.com
(08:50:41) gnutls: Cert Issuer DN: 
DC=com,DC=microsoft,DC=corp,DC=redmond,CN=Microsoft Secure Server Authority
(08:50:41) gnutls: Lvl 1 SHA1 fingerprint: 
7e:8a:c2:9c:5a:32:8c:c2:71:a2:d9:4f:75:70:f7:a9:1b:f6:94:05
(08:50:41) gnutls: Serial: 61:16:6d:2f:00:04:00:00:00:20
(08:50:41) gnutls: Cert DN: DC=com,DC=microsoft,DC=corp,DC=redmond,CN=Microsoft 
Secure Server Authority
(08:50:41) gnutls: Cert Issuer DN: CN=Microsoft Internet Authority
(08:50:41) gnutls: Lvl 2 SHA1 fingerprint: 
3d:29:1d:b8:ee:22:be:e1:33:70:06:f2:ef:c6:f9:db:dd:03:bb:25
(08:50:41) gnutls: Serial: 07:27:16:75
(08:50:41) gnutls: Cert DN: CN=Microsoft Internet Authority
(08:50:41) gnutls: Cert Issuer DN: C=US,O=GTE Corporation,OU=GTE CyberTrust 
Solutions\, Inc.,CN=GTE CyberTrust Global Root
(08:50:41) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Starting verify for 
omega.contacts.msn.com
(08:50:41) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Checking for cached cert...
(08:50:41) certificate/x509/tls_cached: ...Found cached cert
(08:50:41) gnutls: Attempting to load X.509 certificate from 
/home/guru/.purple/certificates/x509/tls_peers/omega.contacts.msn.com
(08:50:41) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Peer cert did NOT match cached
(08:50:41) gnutls/x509: Certificate for C=US,ST=WA,L=Redmond,O=MSN,OU=MSN 
Contact Services,CN=*.contacts.msn.com claims to be issued by 
DC=com,DC=microsoft,DC=corp,DC=redmond,CN=Microsoft Secure Server Authority, 
but the certificate for C=US,ST=WA,L=Redmond,O=MSN,OU=MSN Contact 
Services,CN=*.contacts.msn.com does not match.
(08:50:41) certificate: Checking signature chain for 
uid=C=US,ST=WA,L=Redmond,O=MSN,OU=MSN Contact Services,CN=*.contacts.msn.com
(08:50:41) gnutls/x509: Bad signature for 
DC=com,DC=microsoft,DC=corp,DC=redmond,CN=Microsoft Secure Server Authority on 
C=US,ST=WA,L=Redmond,O=MSN,OU=MSN Contact Services,CN=*.contacts.msn.com
(08:50:41) certificate: ...Bad or missing signature by 
DC=com,DC=microsoft,DC=corp,DC=redmond,CN=Microsoft Secure Server Authority
Chain is INVALID

What does this mean?

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Re: error in certificate

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, November 23, 2010 a las 10:37:08AM -0500, Michael Secord 
escribió:

 As has been mentioned multiple times in this list, and would turn up if 
 you searched, update to v2.7.6.

No, even in 2.7.6 it is not fixed; it depends on which server you will
be directed by DNS for omega.contacts.msn.com; see my posting in this
list Message-ID: 20101122123145.ga90...@current.sisis.de

(and don't top post)

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Re: error in certificate

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El día Tuesday, November 23, 2010 a las 01:54:17PM -0500, Etan Reisner escribió:

 When built with NSS/NSPR 2.7.6 does almost completely fix the problem.
 Some people still have initial connection failures but a retry or two is
 usually enough to sort that out and get things working.
 
 Unfortunately, when built with GnuTLS 2.7.6 is still broken for the
 incorrectly configured servers because of a difference in how GnuTLS
 handles presenting libpurple the certificate chain. A problem that was not
 detected in the limited testing that was done before the release.
 
 Fixes for both of those issues have been found and committed to mtn.

Do I have to checkout some special branch from Monotone to get this
fixes? Thanks

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Re: Pidgin 2.7.3 on Maemo5 - SSL certificates for MSN invalid

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Sunday, November 21, 2010 a las 12:09:39PM -0500, Etan Reisner escribió:

 People don't understand certificates. At all. Which is why they were
 perfectly willing to download certificates for the omega server from any
 blog/host that happened to have them up. That page is hosted on the
 pidgin.im server, the pem files come from the pidgin source, those exact
 files will be in the next release of pidgin which people will implicitly
 trust when they upgrade, etc.
 
 Any text talking about verifying things is going to complicate and confuse
 the situation more than I think it could possibly help though I do
 appreciate the thinking that goes into requesting it.
 
 I'm open to adding a note to the bottom explaining the potential dangers
 with doing this sort of thing but anything more than that I think would be
 too much.

I've right now compiled 2.7.6 on FreeBSD 8.x. It has two issues:

1)
the MSN certificate issue; the certificate is not validated after the
start of pidgin; it takes a while and it seems that if pidgin contacts
some of the *.contacts server it works, while it does not for others;
I could run it with --debug to get a list of the IP addrs...

2)
to get NLS support (for example a Spanish GUI) I must run the
./configure as:

$ CFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include' CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include' ./configure 
--disable-nm --disable-tc

and enable '#define ENABLE_NLS 1' in config.h by hand; this was already
the case with 2.6.2 and easy to solve, because I saved the old mail :-)

Thanks for your work in any case

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Re: Pidgin 2.7.3 on Maemo5 - SSL certificates for MSN invalid

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Monday, November 22, 2010 a las 10:35:36AM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

 I've right now compiled 2.7.6 on FreeBSD 8.x. It has two issues:
 
 1)
 the MSN certificate issue; the certificate is not validated after the
 start of pidgin; it takes a while and it seems that if pidgin contacts
 some of the *.contacts server it works, while it does not for others;
 I could run it with --debug to get a list of the IP addrs...

and here is the data from the debug log:

Pidgin resolves via DNS for omega.contacts.msn.com 5 times the IP addr
207.46.113.78 which has the following certificates:

(13:08:31) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
ac:7e:e4:5f:97:b8:7e:f0:0b:ac:a6:51:9f:ba:51:f0:ad:73:17:8b
(13:08:31) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
7e:8a:c2:9c:5a:32:8c:c2:71:a2:d9:4f:75:70:f7:a9:1b:f6:94:05
(13:08:31) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
3d:29:1d:b8:ee:22:be:e1:33:70:06:f2:ef:c6:f9:db:dd:03:bb:25

Then it resolves to 207.46.118.183 which has other certificates:

(13:16:03) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
c8:f3:b1:69:52:36:07:33:b5:02:1b:a2:b2:b4:ce:32:b9:68:37:36
(13:16:03) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
3a:dd:0e:7e:a2:b2:84:ff:45:9e:13:73:65:b4:82:d1:88:df:bf:8a
(13:16:03) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
e5:95:8d:48:fe:10:d7:34:03:11:e8:c0:3b:b2:29:40:da:ba:2d:a3

and it can verify with success:
  
(13:16:03) certificate: Successfully verified certificate for 
omega.contacts.msn.com

i.e. it depends of the server in question :-(

HIH

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Re: Invalid certificate authority signature

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, November 20, 2010 a las 08:21:08PM +, Brian Morrison 
escribió:

 On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 07:32:40 -0600
 Jennifer Ray j...@lgdpc.com wrote:
 
  Hello,
  I LOVE using Pidgin WAY better than IM.  Please tell me how I can fix this.
  I have been all over the website trying to find the FIX for this
  issue.  Can you please point me in the right direction?  This just
  started yesterday morning and wouldn't allow me in all day until all
  of a sudden yesterday afternoon I was able to get in.  But now this
   morning same thing.
 
 The answer can be found here:
 
 http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/12906#comment:39
 
 It's not too difficult a process, but make sure that the .pem files you
 download are renamed to remove the string before Microsoft_* in their
 filenames.
 
 If you need further help, please ask

Hello Brian,

I've downloaded and installed the certificates and they are read on
start of pidgin:

# cd /usr/local/share/purple/ca-certs
# ls -lutr M*
-rw-r--r--  1 guru  wheel  6153 21 nov 10:00 
Microsoft_Secure_Server_Authority_2010.pem
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  2202 21 nov 10:00 
Microsoft_Secure_Server_Authority.pem
-rw-r--r--  1 guru  wheel  5764 21 nov 10:00 
Microsoft_Internet_Authority_2010.pem
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1809 21 nov 10:00 Microsoft_Internet_Authority.pem

But, sometimes it still gives the error message about could not
validate the certificate for omega.contacts.msn.com, sometimes it
works after a few retries; what I am missing?

This is with 2.6.2 on FreeBSD 8.x

Thanks


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