RE: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal

2021-08-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Ah. Thanks. So folks are using apps on phone more, and thus have 27 apps for 
the different services (I know I do!). Lovely...*sigh*

-Original Message-
From: Support  On Behalf Of Wade Smart
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:46 PM
Cc: Pidgin 
Subject: Re: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal

it = pidgin
group = This email list.

I dont think this group is as active and thus you are not getting responses on 
the Hangouts posts because of the reduced general use.

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On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 12:43 PM Phil Smith III  wrote:
>
> Sorry..."it" = Hangouts? "the group" = ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Support  On Behalf Of Wade Smart
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:36 PM
> Cc: Pidgin 
> Subject: Re: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal
>
> I stopped using it when clients of mine stopped using it because of trouble 
> with fb and others. I think in general the group ground to a halt with little 
> overall use.
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> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 12:34 PM Phil Smith III  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, got that to lists fine; gmail copies were marked as spam, 
> > interesting.
> >
> > So nobody responded re Hangouts...also interesting!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wade Smart 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:42 PM
> > To: Phil Smith III 
> > Cc: Pidgin 
> > Subject: Re: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal
> >
> > OH.. since the 8/4 when you posted about Hangouts.
> > --
> > Registered Linux User: #480675
> > Registered Linux Machine: #408606
> > Linux since June 2005
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 11:41 AM Wade Smart  wrote:
> > >
> > > Phil, this is the only post to the group in a while.
> > > But I see this one.
> > > --
> > > Registered Linux User: #480675
> > > Registered Linux Machine: #408606
> > > Linux since June 2005
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 11:36 AM Phil Smith III  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've asked a couple of questions on this list and not even seen 
> > > > my own posts, which is weird and concerning. I *am* getting mail 
> > > > every day at this address, so it's odd; all I can think is that my ISP 
> > > > is blocking the list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > First: if anyone replies to this note, can you please CC 
> > > > li...@akphs.com <mailto:li...@akphs.com>  and phs...@gmail.com 
> > > > <mailto:phs...@gmail.com> , so I know (a) that someone did this 
> > > > (since presumably the gmail note will get through even if the other one 
> > > > doesn't)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Second: Google Chat is basically crap for a number of reasons, 
> > > > at least on Android (and one might guess/assume that a Google 
> > > > product on a Google platform is going to be the best 
> > > > implementation). So I'm looking at switching to Whatsapp or Signal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I see two Whatsapp plugins, from  davidgfnet and hoehermann, and 
> > > > a Signal plugin from hoehermann.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I see three possibilities:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  hoehermann did Signal first, lost interest, and is now focused 
> > > > on
> > > > Whatsapp
> > > > 2.  the reverse
> > > > 3.  hoehermann is just a great person and is keeping both current
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If #2 is the case, I'll go with Signal. If it's #1 or #3, I'd 
> > > > love any comments from folks about whether hoehermann or 
> > > > davidgfnet's plugins are better.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > ...phsiii
> > > >
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RE: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal

2021-08-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Sorry..."it" = Hangouts? "the group" = ?

-Original Message-
From: Support  On Behalf Of Wade Smart
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:36 PM
Cc: Pidgin 
Subject: Re: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal

I stopped using it when clients of mine stopped using it because of trouble 
with fb and others. I think in general the group ground to a halt with little 
overall use.
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 12:34 PM Phil Smith III  wrote:
>
> Thanks, got that to lists fine; gmail copies were marked as spam, interesting.
>
> So nobody responded re Hangouts...also interesting!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wade Smart 
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:42 PM
> To: Phil Smith III 
> Cc: Pidgin 
> Subject: Re: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal
>
> OH.. since the 8/4 when you posted about Hangouts.
> --
> Registered Linux User: #480675
> Registered Linux Machine: #408606
> Linux since June 2005
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 11:41 AM Wade Smart  wrote:
> >
> > Phil, this is the only post to the group in a while.
> > But I see this one.
> > --
> > Registered Linux User: #480675
> > Registered Linux Machine: #408606
> > Linux since June 2005
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 11:36 AM Phil Smith III  wrote:
> > >
> > > I've asked a couple of questions on this list and not even seen my 
> > > own posts, which is weird and concerning. I *am* getting mail 
> > > every day at this address, so it's odd; all I can think is that my ISP is 
> > > blocking the list.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > First: if anyone replies to this note, can you please CC 
> > > li...@akphs.com <mailto:li...@akphs.com>  and phs...@gmail.com 
> > > <mailto:phs...@gmail.com> , so I know (a) that someone did this 
> > > (since presumably the gmail note will get through even if the other one 
> > > doesn't)?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Second: Google Chat is basically crap for a number of reasons, at 
> > > least on Android (and one might guess/assume that a Google product 
> > > on a Google platform is going to be the best implementation). So 
> > > I'm looking at switching to Whatsapp or Signal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I see two Whatsapp plugins, from  davidgfnet and hoehermann, and a 
> > > Signal plugin from hoehermann.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I see three possibilities:
> > >
> > > 1.  hoehermann did Signal first, lost interest, and is now focused on
> > > Whatsapp
> > > 2.  the reverse
> > > 3.  hoehermann is just a great person and is keeping both current
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If #2 is the case, I'll go with Signal. If it's #1 or #3, I'd love 
> > > any comments from folks about whether hoehermann or davidgfnet's 
> > > plugins are better.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > ...phsiii
> > >
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RE: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal

2021-08-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks, got that to lists fine; gmail copies were marked as spam, interesting.

So nobody responded re Hangouts...also interesting!

-Original Message-
From: Wade Smart  
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:42 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin 
Subject: Re: Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal

OH.. since the 8/4 when you posted about Hangouts.
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 11:41 AM Wade Smart  wrote:
>
> Phil, this is the only post to the group in a while.
> But I see this one.
> --
> Registered Linux User: #480675
> Registered Linux Machine: #408606
> Linux since June 2005
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 11:36 AM Phil Smith III  wrote:
> >
> > I've asked a couple of questions on this list and not even seen my 
> > own posts, which is weird and concerning. I *am* getting mail every 
> > day at this address, so it's odd; all I can think is that my ISP is 
> > blocking the list.
> >
> >
> >
> > First: if anyone replies to this note, can you please CC 
> > li...@akphs.com <mailto:li...@akphs.com>  and phs...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:phs...@gmail.com> , so I know (a) that someone did this 
> > (since presumably the gmail note will get through even if the other one 
> > doesn't)?
> >
> >
> >
> > Second: Google Chat is basically crap for a number of reasons, at 
> > least on Android (and one might guess/assume that a Google product 
> > on a Google platform is going to be the best implementation). So I'm 
> > looking at switching to Whatsapp or Signal.
> >
> >
> >
> > I see two Whatsapp plugins, from  davidgfnet and hoehermann, and a 
> > Signal plugin from hoehermann.
> >
> >
> >
> > I see three possibilities:
> >
> > 1.  hoehermann did Signal first, lost interest, and is now focused on
> > Whatsapp
> > 2.  the reverse
> > 3.  hoehermann is just a great person and is keeping both current
> >
> >
> >
> > If #2 is the case, I'll go with Signal. If it's #1 or #3, I'd love 
> > any comments from folks about whether hoehermann or davidgfnet's 
> > plugins are better.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > ...phsiii
> >
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Google Chat and Whatsapp and Signal

2021-08-12 Thread Phil Smith III
I've asked a couple of questions on this list and not even seen my own
posts, which is weird and concerning. I *am* getting mail every day at this
address, so it's odd; all I can think is that my ISP is blocking the list.

 

First: if anyone replies to this note, can you please CC li...@akphs.com
  and phs...@gmail.com  ,
so I know (a) that someone did this (since presumably the gmail note will
get through even if the other one doesn't)?

 

Second: Google Chat is basically crap for a number of reasons, at least on
Android (and one might guess/assume that a Google product on a Google
platform is going to be the best implementation). So I'm looking at
switching to Whatsapp or Signal.

 

I see two Whatsapp plugins, from  davidgfnet and hoehermann, and a Signal
plugin from hoehermann.

 

I see three possibilities:

1.  hoehermann did Signal first, lost interest, and is now focused on
Whatsapp
2.  the reverse
3.  hoehermann is just a great person and is keeping both current

 

If #2 is the case, I'll go with Signal. If it's #1 or #3, I'd love any
comments from folks about whether hoehermann or davidgfnet's plugins are
better.

 

Thanks,

...phsiii

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Hangouts ==> Google Chat

2021-08-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Apologies if I've missed this here, but what does the move from Hangouts to
Google Chat mean for Pidgin? I did some Googling but all the hits seemed to
be quite old.

 

...phsiii 

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RE: Strange behavior since Hangouts went to Chat

2021-07-06 Thread Phil Smith III
Don’t be sorry! I’ll be waiting with bated (not baited) breath. If you need a 
tester, I’m your guy!

 

From: Eion Robb  
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 4:37 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Strange behavior since Hangouts went to Chat

 

Hmm. That's really strange. There's been some issues related to the 429 errors 
that can make it reconnect and download history again, but it normally has the 
right time on it, not the current time. 

 

To completely avoid the question, I'm working on a new plugin for Google Chat 
at https://github.com/EionRobb/purple-googlechat Efforts are focused more on 
getting the new one working rather than fixing the old one, sorry. 

 

Cheers, 

Eion

 

On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 04:01 Phil Smith III, mailto:phs...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I'm using the Hangouts plugin. Since it reverted to Chat, the only change
I've seen is that when I first start a session after firing up Pidgin, the
first IM I sent winds up at the *top* of the history, and all the history
has the current timestamp.



So if the history was:

(11:34:21 AM) Phil Smith III:

Mornin', Ralph

(11:41:00 AM) Ralph:
Mornin', Sam



When I fire up Pidgin at 12:01:01 and send "Hello", I wind up with:

(12:01:01 AM) Phil Smith III:

Hello

(12:01:01 AM) Phil Smith III:

Mornin', Ralph

(12:01:01 AM) Ralph:
Mornin', Sam



If it's just these few IMs, it's not that confusing, but of course it isn't
ever that few-so it just looks like the first IM didn't go.



Is this something anyone else is seeing?



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Strange behavior since Hangouts went to Chat

2021-07-06 Thread Phil Smith III
I'm using the Hangouts plugin. Since it reverted to Chat, the only change
I've seen is that when I first start a session after firing up Pidgin, the
first IM I sent winds up at the *top* of the history, and all the history
has the current timestamp.

 

So if the history was:

(11:34:21 AM) Phil Smith III:

Mornin', Ralph

(11:41:00 AM) Ralph:
Mornin', Sam

 

When I fire up Pidgin at 12:01:01 and send "Hello", I wind up with:

(12:01:01 AM) Phil Smith III:

Hello

(12:01:01 AM) Phil Smith III:

Mornin', Ralph

(12:01:01 AM) Ralph:
Mornin', Sam

 

If it's just these few IMs, it's not that confusing, but of course it isn't
ever that few-so it just looks like the first IM didn't go.

 

Is this something anyone else is seeing?

 

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RE: Pidgin WIBNI or option I'm just not finding

2021-05-06 Thread Phil Smith III
This still isn't working. Is there a secret to configuring it?

-Original Message-
From: Phil Smith III  
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 5:02 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' 
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' 
Subject: RE: Pidgin WIBNI or option I'm just not finding

As usual, Eion is my hero! Thank you sir. It's installed and configured, I 
think--the "Apply hiding rules to buddies" is what I want, I assume?

Of course I'll know that it's working only because I won't see messages that 
might have otherwise seen--sorta trying to prove a negative...

-Original Message-
From: Support  On Behalf Of Eion Robb
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 4:29 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Pidgin WIBNI or option I'm just not finding

Sorry about that. Behind the scenes there's two different buddy lists on 
Hangouts and they end up fighting with each other when the account reconnects

As a workaround, you can use
https://github.com/EionRobb/pidgin-ignore-nickchange which suppresses those 
messages

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021, 01:58 Phil Smith III,  wrote:

> When my ISP is flaky, as happens from time to time, it'll disconnect 
> and reconnect repeatedly. When it does so, I wind up with IM windows 
> full of sequences like this:
>
> (4:02:44 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.
>
>
>
> (4:02:45 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as YYY.
>
>
>
> (7:14:00 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.
>
>
>
> (7:14:00 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as YYY.
>
>
>
> (7:36:57 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.
>
>
>
> Is there a way to suppress those? These appear for Google Hangouts 
> users, though not all such, which is odd. All are aliased; I'd have 
> said they were all set up the same, but something appears to be different.
>
>
>
> In case anyone wonders, the problem is that this noise makes it easy 
> to miss actual IMs of significance (typically from my wife, which is 
> Bad).
>
>
>
> Thanks for any suggestions!
>
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Pidgin falling over?

2021-04-21 Thread Phil Smith III
Since upgrading, I keep finding Pidgin closed on me. Once I could believe
was me, but it's been a half-dozen times. Anyone else seeing this? Normally
it's open 24x7.

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RE: Certificate failures

2021-04-16 Thread Phil Smith III
Yes, sorry, I shoulda been clearer. OK, not just us then, I'll relax!

Thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdf1eLW87qg

-Original Message-
From: Michael Secord  
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:13 PM
To: Phil Smith III ; 'Pidgin Support List' 
Subject: Re: Certificate failures

Assuming you're talking about the certificate errors about google certs, 
running the Hangouts plugin, you're not alone. Mine started up again after the 
update to the newest Pidgin release. Unclear if it's related to the upgrade or 
a coincidence, but they have returned after being silent for months.

-Michael

On 4/16/2021 10:02, Phil Smith III wrote:
> Are we the only ones getting repeated certificate failures the last 
> few days? My wife and I both are. Our connection has also been flaky, 
> so I'm wondering if that's related. If others are getting them, then 
> I'll assume not.
>
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Certificate failures

2021-04-16 Thread Phil Smith III
Are we the only ones getting repeated certificate failures the last few
days? My wife and I both are. Our connection has also been flaky, so I'm
wondering if that's related. If others are getting them, then I'll assume
not.

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RE: Pidgin WIBNI or option I'm just not finding

2021-04-15 Thread Phil Smith III
Yeah, I had a bunch this morning, too. Wondering if it's that I don't have the 
plugin configured correctly.

-Original Message-
From: Support  On Behalf Of pid...@alexoren.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 2:27 AM
To: Eion Robb 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Pidgin WIBNI or option I'm just not finding

On 2021-04-14 16:28, Eion Robb wrote:
> Sorry about that. Behind the scenes there's two different buddy lists 
> on Hangouts and they end up fighting with each other when the account 
> reconnects
> 
> As a workaround, you can use
> https://github.com/EionRobb/pidgin-ignore-nickchange which suppresses 
> those messages

I have that plugin installed (version 0.2) and those messages still appear on 
Hangouts conversations.

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RE: Pidgin WIBNI or option I'm just not finding

2021-04-14 Thread Phil Smith III
As usual, Eion is my hero! Thank you sir. It's installed and configured, I 
think--the "Apply hiding rules to buddies" is what I want, I assume?

Of course I'll know that it's working only because I won't see messages that 
might have otherwise seen--sorta trying to prove a negative...

-Original Message-
From: Support  On Behalf Of Eion Robb
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 4:29 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Pidgin WIBNI or option I'm just not finding

Sorry about that. Behind the scenes there's two different buddy lists on 
Hangouts and they end up fighting with each other when the account reconnects

As a workaround, you can use
https://github.com/EionRobb/pidgin-ignore-nickchange which suppresses those 
messages

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021, 01:58 Phil Smith III,  wrote:

> When my ISP is flaky, as happens from time to time, it'll disconnect 
> and reconnect repeatedly. When it does so, I wind up with IM windows 
> full of sequences like this:
>
> (4:02:44 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.
>
>
>
> (4:02:45 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as YYY.
>
>
>
> (7:14:00 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.
>
>
>
> (7:14:00 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as YYY.
>
>
>
> (7:36:57 AM)
>
> 106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.
>
>
>
> Is there a way to suppress those? These appear for Google Hangouts 
> users, though not all such, which is odd. All are aliased; I'd have 
> said they were all set up the same, but something appears to be different.
>
>
>
> In case anyone wonders, the problem is that this noise makes it easy 
> to miss actual IMs of significance (typically from my wife, which is 
> Bad).
>
>
>
> Thanks for any suggestions!
>
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Pidgin WIBNI or option I'm just not finding

2021-04-14 Thread Phil Smith III
When my ISP is flaky, as happens from time to time, it'll disconnect and
reconnect repeatedly. When it does so, I wind up with IM windows full of
sequences like this:

(4:02:44 AM)

106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.

 

(4:02:45 AM)

106452616995561063094 is now known as YYY.

 

(7:14:00 AM)

106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.

 

(7:14:00 AM)

106452616995561063094 is now known as YYY.

 

(7:36:57 AM)

106452616995561063094 is now known as xx.

 

Is there a way to suppress those? These appear for Google Hangouts users,
though not all such, which is odd. All are aliased; I'd have said they were
all set up the same, but something appears to be different.

 

In case anyone wonders, the problem is that this noise makes it easy to miss
actual IMs of significance (typically from my wife, which is Bad).

 

Thanks for any suggestions!

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RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

2020-08-25 Thread Phil Smith III
Weird: I’m getting the 429 error again, all of a sudden. Nothing odd going on 
here—not reboots or anything; I have two machines and one phone connected to 
Hangouts, same as it ever was. The other machine and phone are both idle.

 

All of a sudden my primary machine got the 429. A few minutes later it 
connected briefly and let one IM through, but then got the 429 again. And just 
now as I was writing this, it reconnected again briefly, let the SAME IM 
through again, and then got 429.

 

Is there something that causes constant reconnections?

 

Huh, and now it’s connected and seems to be happy. Here’s what my IM window 
shows, with usernames and actual messages replaced:

(3:54:08 PM) me: msgA

(3:54:08 PM) me: msgA

(3:54:41 PM) him: msgB

(3:54:08 PM) me: msgA

(3:54:41 PM) him: msgB

(3:54:08 PM) me: msgA

(3:54:41 PM) him: msgB

 

Note mine (sent originally from another machine) appears four times, and his 
three, all with same timestamps, interleaved. An artifact, clearly, but 
maybe-interesting.

 

Perhaps the 429s are a problem on the Google side?

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 8:53 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

 

Hi again,

 

The Hangouts 429 (rate limit exceeded) issue is a separate one again (I had a 
link just a second ago to the github issue tracker, but lost it again, sorry), 
and can happen if you re-authenticate too many times in an hour - we do a lot 
of requests at login to build up conversation and buddy history, which can 
easily push things over the limit.  You might have inadvertently run into it 
when reconnecting to the Hangouts account after installing the Skype plugin.

 

Cheers,

Eion

 

 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 11:26, Phil Smith III mailto:phs...@gmail.com> > wrote:

And after leaving the machine for a half hour, came back and it's logged in. So 
perhaps this was just Google burping.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Smith III [mailto:phs...@gmail.com <mailto:phs...@gmail.com> ] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 6:04 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' mailto:e...@robbmob.com> >
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Wait, my mistake: it's setting Alternative Login method that works. Still fails 
without that. But at least I can connect. Dumb me, changed two things at once, 
then realized later.

But still getting the error 429 from Hangouts. But now I'm even more confused: 
going back to previous dll didn't help (and why would Skype DLL break 
Hangouts?). So is something ELSE borked now?!

Yeah, I'm getting that same error on another machine, which I haven't touched. 
So it's not the Skype DLL (phew, that made no sense, of course).

But native Hangouts works OK still, can send/receive just fine.

-Original Message-----
From: Phil Smith III [mailto:phs...@gmail.com <mailto:phs...@gmail.com> ] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:52 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' mailto:e...@robbmob.com> >
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Hmm. Well, if this means the one in a .zip file, dated 8:47PM tonight, then the 
good news is, it seems to fix Skype. The bad news is, it breaks Hangouts.

Error seems to be:
Connection error on 054584E0 (reason: 0 description: Invalid HTTP response code 
(429))

Full debug log attached.

-Original Message-
From: Support [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im 
<mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im> ] On Behalf Of Eion Robb
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:39 PM
To: Phil Smith III mailto:p...@akphs.com> >
Cc: Pidgin Support List mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: Re: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Hi Phil,

The issue to follow for this is
https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/issues/656
There's a dll with a fix buried near the bottom of the comments, but the
gist is that using the 'Use alternative login method' setting is always
preferred, since it's less unreliable (although not everyone has been able
to use it because of an 'profile accrual required' error message -
something to do with not having a skype+microsoft merged account)

Just waiting to get more feedback on that fix before I push out a 1.7 of
the plugin later tonight

Cheers,
Eion



On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 08:52, Phil Smith III mailto:p...@akphs.com> > wrote:

> This has happened before, but following the flowchart always fixed it.
> I've done that, logged in on the web using Private Browsing, etc. I'm not
> using two-step auth. No change. Nothing fancy in password: it's ten
> characters, but all alphanumeric. I installed the latest DLL; no change.
>
>
>
> I've attached a debug log, as Word so as to preserve the colors etc.; can
> resend as .txt if that's too Evil.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
&

RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

2020-08-24 Thread Phil Smith III
And after leaving the machine for a half hour, came back and it's logged in. So 
perhaps this was just Google burping.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Smith III [mailto:phs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 6:04 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' 
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' 
Subject: RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Wait, my mistake: it's setting Alternative Login method that works. Still fails 
without that. But at least I can connect. Dumb me, changed two things at once, 
then realized later.

But still getting the error 429 from Hangouts. But now I'm even more confused: 
going back to previous dll didn't help (and why would Skype DLL break 
Hangouts?). So is something ELSE borked now?!

Yeah, I'm getting that same error on another machine, which I haven't touched. 
So it's not the Skype DLL (phew, that made no sense, of course).

But native Hangouts works OK still, can send/receive just fine.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Smith III [mailto:phs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:52 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' 
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' 
Subject: RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Hmm. Well, if this means the one in a .zip file, dated 8:47PM tonight, then the 
good news is, it seems to fix Skype. The bad news is, it breaks Hangouts.

Error seems to be:
Connection error on 054584E0 (reason: 0 description: Invalid HTTP response code 
(429))

Full debug log attached.

-Original Message-
From: Support [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Eion Robb
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:39 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Hi Phil,

The issue to follow for this is
https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/issues/656
There's a dll with a fix buried near the bottom of the comments, but the
gist is that using the 'Use alternative login method' setting is always
preferred, since it's less unreliable (although not everyone has been able
to use it because of an 'profile accrual required' error message -
something to do with not having a skype+microsoft merged account)

Just waiting to get more feedback on that fix before I push out a 1.7 of
the plugin later tonight

Cheers,
Eion



On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 08:52, Phil Smith III  wrote:

> This has happened before, but following the flowchart always fixed it.
> I've done that, logged in on the web using Private Browsing, etc. I'm not
> using two-step auth. No change. Nothing fancy in password: it's ten
> characters, but all alphanumeric. I installed the latest DLL; no change.
>
>
>
> I've attached a debug log, as Word so as to preserve the colors etc.; can
> resend as .txt if that's too Evil.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
>
> ...phsiii
>
>
>
> P.S. I'm finally resubscribed! Took a few tries - the confirmations
> weren't showing up for some reason. Including in gmail.
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RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

2020-08-24 Thread Phil Smith III
Wait, my mistake: it's setting Alternative Login method that works. Still fails 
without that. But at least I can connect. Dumb me, changed two things at once, 
then realized later.

But still getting the error 429 from Hangouts. But now I'm even more confused: 
going back to previous dll didn't help (and why would Skype DLL break 
Hangouts?). So is something ELSE borked now?!

Yeah, I'm getting that same error on another machine, which I haven't touched. 
So it's not the Skype DLL (phew, that made no sense, of course).

But native Hangouts works OK still, can send/receive just fine.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Smith III [mailto:phs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:52 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' 
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' 
Subject: RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Hmm. Well, if this means the one in a .zip file, dated 8:47PM tonight, then the 
good news is, it seems to fix Skype. The bad news is, it breaks Hangouts.

Error seems to be:
Connection error on 054584E0 (reason: 0 description: Invalid HTTP response code 
(429))

Full debug log attached.

-Original Message-
From: Support [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Eion Robb
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:39 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Hi Phil,

The issue to follow for this is
https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/issues/656
There's a dll with a fix buried near the bottom of the comments, but the
gist is that using the 'Use alternative login method' setting is always
preferred, since it's less unreliable (although not everyone has been able
to use it because of an 'profile accrual required' error message -
something to do with not having a skype+microsoft merged account)

Just waiting to get more feedback on that fix before I push out a 1.7 of
the plugin later tonight

Cheers,
Eion



On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 08:52, Phil Smith III  wrote:

> This has happened before, but following the flowchart always fixed it.
> I've done that, logged in on the web using Private Browsing, etc. I'm not
> using two-step auth. No change. Nothing fancy in password: it's ten
> characters, but all alphanumeric. I installed the latest DLL; no change.
>
>
>
> I've attached a debug log, as Word so as to preserve the colors etc.; can
> resend as .txt if that's too Evil.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
>
> ...phsiii
>
>
>
> P.S. I'm finally resubscribed! Took a few tries - the confirmations
> weren't showing up for some reason. Including in gmail.
>
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RE: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

2020-08-24 Thread Phil Smith III
Hmm. Well, if this means the one in a .zip file, dated 8:47PM tonight, then the 
good news is, it seems to fix Skype. The bad news is, it breaks Hangouts.

Error seems to be:
Connection error on 054584E0 (reason: 0 description: Invalid HTTP response code 
(429))

Full debug log attached.

-Original Message-
From: Support [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Eion Robb
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:39 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

Hi Phil,

The issue to follow for this is
https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/issues/656
There's a dll with a fix buried near the bottom of the comments, but the
gist is that using the 'Use alternative login method' setting is always
preferred, since it's less unreliable (although not everyone has been able
to use it because of an 'profile accrual required' error message -
something to do with not having a skype+microsoft merged account)

Just waiting to get more feedback on that fix before I push out a 1.7 of
the plugin later tonight

Cheers,
Eion



On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 08:52, Phil Smith III  wrote:

> This has happened before, but following the flowchart always fixed it.
> I've done that, logged in on the web using Private Browsing, etc. I'm not
> using two-step auth. No change. Nothing fancy in password: it's ten
> characters, but all alphanumeric. I installed the latest DLL; no change.
>
>
>
> I've attached a debug log, as Word so as to preserve the colors etc.; can
> resend as .txt if that's too Evil.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
>
> ...phsiii
>
>
>
> P.S. I'm finally resubscribed! Took a few tries - the confirmations
> weren't showing up for some reason. Including in gmail.
>
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Skype login not working -- the dreaded Magic T-Value

2020-08-24 Thread Phil Smith III
This has happened before, but following the flowchart always fixed it. I've 
done that, logged in on the web using Private Browsing, etc. I'm not using 
two-step auth. No change. Nothing fancy in password: it's ten characters, but 
all alphanumeric. I installed the latest DLL; no change.

 

I've attached a debug log, as Word so as to preserve the colors etc.; can 
resend as .txt if that's too Evil.

 

Any ideas?

-- 

...phsiii

 

P.S. I'm finally resubscribed! Took a few tries - the confirmations weren't 
showing up for some reason. Including in gmail.

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RE: Did this list die?

2020-07-29 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks, that's what I needed to know. Clearly my subscription is borked 
somehow, despite the web page indicating that it's working: I got neither a 
confirmation of my posting (yet you saw it) nor a digest. But this email 
address clearly works, because I have lots of lists subscribed to it AND your 
note (and others replying) arrived.

I'm'a resubscribe, see if that works!

-Original Message-
From: David Balažic [mailto:david.bala...@comtrade.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 6:08 AM
To: Phil Smith III ; support@pidgin.im
Subject: RE: Did this list die?

There are a few posts each month.

You can see them in the archive, here: https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support


David Balažic

-Original Message-
From: Support  On Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: torek, 28. julij 2020 16:23
To: support@pidgin.im
Subject: Did this list die?

CAUTION: Origin is external! The content might not be safe!


I haven't received anything since February. I can login and my settings are all 
correct. I've updated them so I'll see an ack of my own postings, so at least 
I'll know if THIS one went. I doubt it's being filtered as spam, as I do my own 
filtering at the client level and thus should see any such.



I was reminded of the list because I realized I hadn't heard anything about 
Hangouts allegedly dying in a while; 
https://support.google.com/a/answer/9197126?hl=en 
<https://support.google.com/a/answer/9197126?hl=en_topic=9197125> 
_topic=9197125 suggests it's just being renamed, but that makes me wonder 
if the plugin is going to stop working.



Apologies if this has been covered in the almost six months since I last 
received a digest!

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Did this list die?

2020-07-28 Thread Phil Smith III
I haven't received anything since February. I can login and my settings are all 
correct. I've updated them so I'll see an ack of my own postings, so at least 
I'll know if THIS one went. I doubt it's being filtered as spam, as I do my own 
filtering at the client level and thus should see any such.

 

I was reminded of the list because I realized I hadn't heard anything about 
Hangouts allegedly dying in a while; 
https://support.google.com/a/answer/9197126?hl=en 
 
_topic=9197125 suggests it's just being renamed, but that makes me wonder 
if the plugin is going to stop working.

 

Apologies if this has been covered in the almost six months since I last 
received a digest!

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in logs

2020-06-04 Thread Phil Smith III
We’re using the Hangouts plugin, so this might be related to that. 

 

When we reopen a Pidgin tab, sometimes—not always—the older IMs have “” 
visible in front of the text. Here’s a sanitized example:

 

(6:12:05 PM) MyWife:

note the leading 

(6:12:25 PM) MyWife:

note the leading 

(6:22:41 PM) Me:

note the leading 

(8:11:00 PM) Me:

this one is normal.

 

Anyone else see this? Anyone know what causes it? I thought it was happening if 
I just closed and reopened a tab, but not always.

 

It’s driving my wife nuts so there’s urgency to fix it 

 

Thanks for any suggestions/pointers!

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With Hangouts allegedly going away...

2020-01-31 Thread Phil Smith III
.I'm looking ahead to a new IM service. I'm very happy with Pidgin, and it's 
not like it doesn't support plenty of protocols, so I'm sure I can find one 
that works. But I thought I'd ask here what other folks think will be the best 
replacement.

 

My criteria:

-Available on PC, Mac, Android and iPhone

-Supported by Pidgin (I have successfully moved my "problem" user, aka 
my wife, to Pidgin: she hates UI changes, so I don't want to change again!)

 

I'm also wondering if anyone has looked into support for Fuze and Teams. 
They're quite possibly too closed, but I thought I'd ask. Both have horrible 
UIs (and I'm being generous there).

 

Thanks for any thoughts!

 

...phsiii

 

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Weirdness pasting email addresses

2020-01-07 Thread Phil Smith III
Was sending a colleague some email addresses via IM (Google Hangouts, with 
Eion's plugin):

'y' mailto:x...@y.com> >
'b' mailto:a...@b.com> >

 

Only there were a lot of them. He got them OK; I saw:

'y'

'b'

 

I experimented. If I send more than 33 addresses, I don't see the address part. 
33 or fewer, it's fine. Yes, 33, not 32!

 

Any ideas?

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RE: Demise of Google Hangouts?

2019-11-06 Thread Phil Smith III
Eugene Grosbein  wrote:
> Why don't you use any free nearby IRC server?

That's an interesting idea. My first reaction was "I'm not sure my wife would 
like it", but I suppose thru Pidgin it won't "feel" any different to her. I'm 
certainly fine with IRC (I used The Relay on BITNET in the early 80s, from 
which IRC is evolved, so I have a wee bit of history there).

I will look into that! Any suggestions for a public server that seems stable 
(both in terms of RAS and not going away next week because someone changed jobs 
or whatever)?

BTW, Eion, your mention of SMS was attractive--I'd get ONE interface on my 
end--but looking at the plugins page, it doesn't appear to be available for 
Windows. Or am I missing something (as usual)?

...phsiii

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Demise of Google Hangouts?

2019-11-05 Thread Phil Smith III
It's been reported that Google is killing end-user Hangouts in 2020:

https://www.cnet.com/news/google-hangouts-gets-hung-out-to-dry-in-2020-report-says/

 

Some of us are irritated because we just moved off of AIM. I don't care which 
service it is, I just need it to work-my wife is housebound and uses it a lot 
to communicate with me from her PC when I'm out and about. (Yes, text-to-email 
works, but then she has to keep checking for responses in email; Pidgin 
flashes/beeps). What else are people using that both Pidgin on Windows and 
Android phones support?

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RE: Reconnecting

2019-06-26 Thread Phil Smith III
OK, I’m still missing some clue here. I downloaded that DLL and replaced it in 
\Program Files (x86)\Pidgin\plugins (after making sure that was the only copy 
anywhere). No change. Rebooted; no change. Downloaded and reinstalled the 
latest version of the entire plugin; no change.

 

What have I missed here?

 

BTW, the link on https://eion.robbmob.com/ to 
https://eion.robbmob.com/libskypeweb-debug.dll is 404.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:32 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Reconnecting

 

Hi Phil,

 

Looks like you're using an older version of the plugin.  To be fair I haven't 
released a final version yet, but there are nightly builds that you can use 
from https://eion.robbmob.com/libskype.dll instead.

 

The settings in the newer version look like 



 

Cheers,

Eion

 

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 10:06, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

Ok, I took a look at this, and now I feel even stoopider. I can’t find any “alt 
login” checkbox. I see the empty checkbox, but Account/[the Skype 
account/Modify Account/Advanced shows:



Am I in the wrong cave?

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com <mailto:e...@robbmob.com> ] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> >
Cc: Pidgin Support List mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: Re: Reconnecting

 

Hi Phil,

 

There's an updated intermediate cert for the Hangouts plugin, that the Google 
servers will sometimes send.  You can download it from source on 
https://bitbucket.org/EionRobb/purple-hangouts/src/default/ or download the 
latest version of the .exe installer (assuming you're on windows) which has the 
intermediate certs bundled.

 

For the Skype plugin, you'll want to follow the flowchart 
https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb#issues - but the 
secret sauce is to turn on the "use alternate auth" setting the advanced 
account settings, which bypasses the whole "Magic T" thing.

 

Cheers,

Eion

 

 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 04:36, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

My ISP has occasional hiccups, and/or Google does -- I get certificate prompts 
periodically (every few days), which of course makes no sense.

In any case, I often go to a machine and find that it has disabled my Hangouts 
account. I know how to re-enable it, of course, but would prefer not to have 
to. I see no way to tell Pidgin to retry more times, or for longer; am I just 
missing it?

Then there's the Skype "Failed to get magic T-value", which I also get 
randomly...

Any suggestions appreciated.

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RE: Reconnecting

2019-06-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Doh, sorry. I checked the Pidgin version, forgot that that was a plugin!

Well, I did say “stoopid” :(

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:32 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Reconnecting

 

Hi Phil,

 

Looks like you're using an older version of the plugin.  To be fair I haven't 
released a final version yet, but there are nightly builds that you can use 
from https://eion.robbmob.com/libskype.dll instead.

 

The settings in the newer version look like 



 

Cheers,

Eion

 

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 10:06, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

Ok, I took a look at this, and now I feel even stoopider. I can’t find any “alt 
login” checkbox. I see the empty checkbox, but Account/[the Skype 
account/Modify Account/Advanced shows:



Am I in the wrong cave?

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com <mailto:e...@robbmob.com> ] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> >
Cc: Pidgin Support List mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: Re: Reconnecting

 

Hi Phil,

 

There's an updated intermediate cert for the Hangouts plugin, that the Google 
servers will sometimes send.  You can download it from source on 
https://bitbucket.org/EionRobb/purple-hangouts/src/default/ or download the 
latest version of the .exe installer (assuming you're on windows) which has the 
intermediate certs bundled.

 

For the Skype plugin, you'll want to follow the flowchart 
https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb#issues - but the 
secret sauce is to turn on the "use alternate auth" setting the advanced 
account settings, which bypasses the whole "Magic T" thing.

 

Cheers,

Eion

 

 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 04:36, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

My ISP has occasional hiccups, and/or Google does -- I get certificate prompts 
periodically (every few days), which of course makes no sense.

In any case, I often go to a machine and find that it has disabled my Hangouts 
account. I know how to re-enable it, of course, but would prefer not to have 
to. I see no way to tell Pidgin to retry more times, or for longer; am I just 
missing it?

Then there's the Skype "Failed to get magic T-value", which I also get 
randomly...

Any suggestions appreciated.

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RE: Reconnecting

2019-06-25 Thread Phil Smith III
Ok, I took a look at this, and now I feel even stoopider. I can’t find any “alt 
login” checkbox. I see the empty checkbox, but Account/[the Skype 
account/Modify Account/Advanced shows:



Am I in the wrong cave?

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Reconnecting

 

Hi Phil,

 

There's an updated intermediate cert for the Hangouts plugin, that the Google 
servers will sometimes send.  You can download it from source on 
https://bitbucket.org/EionRobb/purple-hangouts/src/default/ or download the 
latest version of the .exe installer (assuming you're on windows) which has the 
intermediate certs bundled.

 

For the Skype plugin, you'll want to follow the flowchart 
https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb#issues - but the 
secret sauce is to turn on the "use alternate auth" setting the advanced 
account settings, which bypasses the whole "Magic T" thing.

 

Cheers,

Eion

 

 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 04:36, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

My ISP has occasional hiccups, and/or Google does -- I get certificate prompts 
periodically (every few days), which of course makes no sense.

In any case, I often go to a machine and find that it has disabled my Hangouts 
account. I know how to re-enable it, of course, but would prefer not to have 
to. I see no way to tell Pidgin to retry more times, or for longer; am I just 
missing it?

Then there's the Skype "Failed to get magic T-value", which I also get 
randomly...

Any suggestions appreciated.

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RE: Reconnecting

2019-06-21 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks. Why am I installing intermediates? I should just need the root, and 
installing an intermediate that isn’t needed is a good way to get into trouble 
later on when the intermediate gets renewed on the server, but I have an 
expired, older copy.

 

I don’t use 2FA on Skype, but I should. I don’t use it enough/care about it 
enough to have done so. (I used to use it more, then they destroyed the UI, and 
now it’s usually easier to use something else.)

 

I will tinker. Installing latest Hangouts plugin seems easiest.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: Reconnecting

 

Hi Phil,

 

There's an updated intermediate cert for the Hangouts plugin, that the Google 
servers will sometimes send.  You can download it from source on 
https://bitbucket.org/EionRobb/purple-hangouts/src/default/ or download the 
latest version of the .exe installer (assuming you're on windows) which has the 
intermediate certs bundled.

 

For the Skype plugin, you'll want to follow the flowchart 
https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb#issues - but the 
secret sauce is to turn on the "use alternate auth" setting the advanced 
account settings, which bypasses the whole "Magic T" thing.

 

Cheers,

Eion

 

 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 04:36, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

My ISP has occasional hiccups, and/or Google does -- I get certificate prompts 
periodically (every few days), which of course makes no sense.

In any case, I often go to a machine and find that it has disabled my Hangouts 
account. I know how to re-enable it, of course, but would prefer not to have 
to. I see no way to tell Pidgin to retry more times, or for longer; am I just 
missing it?

Then there's the Skype "Failed to get magic T-value", which I also get 
randomly...

Any suggestions appreciated.

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RE: Spam to the list

2019-06-07 Thread Phil Smith III
Anyone else find it hilarious that that "I hacked you" spam includes
>Send exactly 0.293651 BTC to my address:
?

Their target demo isn't going to own BTC, know how get it, or know what to do 
with a bitcoin wallet address. Even better, most of those spams come as images, 
where you *can't* copy and paste the wallet address...

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RE: Lost config

2019-03-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Well, doh. Sorry! I shoulda looked...

-Original Message-
From: Michael Secord [mailto:gizmokid2...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 3:22 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Subject: Re: Lost config

There sure is. You can find the information in the FAQ: 
https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#Wherearemysettingsanddataincludinglogssaved

-Michael

On 3/20/2019 12:19, Phil Smith III wrote:
> After a system hang (due to the horrible Fuze application) I did a hard 
> reboot. When Pidgin came up, it had lost my account. I'm back, but since I do 
> back up lots of stuff, wondered if it was trivial to back up some .ini or 
> .cfg file for such an eventuality (easier than fighting through the oauth 
> thing).
>
> So ... is there a specific file? Or does it live in the Registry?
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Lost config

2019-03-20 Thread Phil Smith III
After a system hang (due to the horrible Fuze application) I did a hard reboot. 
When Pidgin came up, it had lost my account. I'm back, but since I do back up 
lots of stuff, wondered if it was trivial to back up some .ini or .cfg file for 
such an eventuality (easier than fighting through the oauth thing).

So ... is there a specific file? Or does it live in the Registry?

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Pidgin oddity

2018-11-25 Thread Phil Smith III
On one machine (my wife's), Pidgin does not keep flashing if an unread IM has 
arrived. This actually causes *me* most of the grief, because my wife will say 
"You didn't tell me [you left | you got home | you got there without dying | 
whatever] and I say "Sure I did, I IMed you" and she looks and says "Oh, it 
wasn't flashing".

 

I'm sure this isn't Pidgin's fault, but any ideas? I've Googled and tinkered 
with Windows settings to no avail.

 

 

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RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

2018-10-23 Thread Phil Smith III
I did not get that—not as a direct note, nor in a Digest. I have the digests 
prior and subsequent to that date. Weird.

 

However, I just realized that my wife isn’t using the Hangouts plugin, so the 
xmpp: handler will presumably work for her. Not realizing that Hangouts made 
things different, I’ve been experimenting on my machine. Yep, just VNCed to 
hers and the xmpp: URI works just fine. Sorry about all the confusion!

 

/me wonders if Pidgin might should issue some sort of error message in the case 
he hit, though he realizes it’s a rare occurrence…

 

Thanks as ever, Eion! I feel like I’m a high-maintenance user for you, and I 
sure don’t mean to be.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:54 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

Not sure if you didn't get my email with the screenshot attached to it?  
https://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/2018-October/030377.html

 

If you've got an account set up with 'Hangouts' as the account type, rather 
than 'XMPP' then the Hangouts plugin won't provide any URI handling.

 

Cheers,

Eion

 

 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 09:56, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

See previous note at bottom:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Pidgin\pidgin.exe 
--protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com <mailto:xmpp%3a...@gmail.com> 

So the URI was:

xmpp://...@gmail.com <mailto:...@gmail.com> 

 

But they are all Hangouts (well, and Skype). Is the protocol wrong?

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com <mailto:e...@robbmob.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:06 PM
To: Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> >
Cc: Pidgin Support List mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

What was the full URI you were using?

Do you have any xmpp accounts set up in Pidgin, or is it still only set up with 
a Hangouts account?

 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 02:50, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

Ran with debugging:

(09:47:05) util: Processing message 'x...@gmail.com <mailto:x...@gmail.com> ' 
for protocol 'xmpp' using delimiter ';'.

(09:47:05) GLib: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed

 

(the x...@gmail.com <mailto:x...@gmail.com>  was a Gmail ID of mine, and it was 
valid)

 

From: Phil Smith III [mailto:li...@akphs.com <mailto:li...@akphs.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:04 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' mailto:e...@robbmob.com> >; 'Phil Smith III' 
mailto:li...@akphs.com> >
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

Well, ok, that’s kinda what I’d expected – I installed Pidgin so long ago that 
I’ve just let upgrades run without looking (since it’s one of the civilized 
installers that remembers the options!) and had forgotten it was there.

 

BUT it is set, and I just reinstalled to be sure. Looking in the Registry, I 
find:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xmpp\shell\Open\command]

has value

"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Pidgin\\pidgin.exe   
--protocolhandler=%1"

 

But:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Pidgin\pidgin.exe 
--protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com <mailto:xmpp%3a...@gmail.com> 

from a Run or Command prompt does nothing.

 

I’m starting to wonder about the --protocolhandler option. is it correct? And 
I’m using the Hangouts plugin; would it still be 
protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com> ? I notice that 
Pidgin doesn’t even start when I specify this option, which makes me think it 
rejected it entirely. --help doesn’t show --protocol. I’m on 2.13.0.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:14 PM
To: Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> >
Cc: Pidgin Support List mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

The windows installer .exe has an option to register handlers with XMPP, AIM 
and something else.

 

The manual way to do it used to be through:

Control Panel->Default Programs->Associate a file type or protocol with a 
program -> Choose default applications by protocol

but it looks like they've gotten rid of the option to manually add a protocol 
to the list now?

 

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 06:30, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

pid...@alexoren.com <mailto:pid...@alexoren.com>  wrote, in part:
>> the second does nothing.

>Works for me, but does not unescape the message, so spaces are a problem.

Also does nothing from a Run prompt. So I'm back to the original question: how 
do I register Pidgin to respond to XMPP: URLs?  

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RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

2018-10-23 Thread Phil Smith III
See previous note at bottom:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Pidgin\pidgin.exe 
--protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com <mailto:xmpp%3a...@gmail.com> 

So the URI was:

xmpp://...@gmail.com

 

But they are all Hangouts (well, and Skype). Is the protocol wrong?

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:06 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

What was the full URI you were using?

Do you have any xmpp accounts set up in Pidgin, or is it still only set up with 
a Hangouts account?

 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 02:50, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

Ran with debugging:

(09:47:05) util: Processing message 'x...@gmail.com <mailto:x...@gmail.com> ' 
for protocol 'xmpp' using delimiter ';'.

(09:47:05) GLib: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed

 

(the x...@gmail.com <mailto:x...@gmail.com>  was a Gmail ID of mine, and it was 
valid)

 

From: Phil Smith III [mailto:li...@akphs.com <mailto:li...@akphs.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:04 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' mailto:e...@robbmob.com> >; 'Phil Smith III' 
mailto:li...@akphs.com> >
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

Well, ok, that’s kinda what I’d expected – I installed Pidgin so long ago that 
I’ve just let upgrades run without looking (since it’s one of the civilized 
installers that remembers the options!) and had forgotten it was there.

 

BUT it is set, and I just reinstalled to be sure. Looking in the Registry, I 
find:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xmpp\shell\Open\command]

has value

"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Pidgin\\pidgin.exe   
--protocolhandler=%1"

 

But:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Pidgin\pidgin.exe 
--protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com <mailto:xmpp%3a...@gmail.com> 

from a Run or Command prompt does nothing.

 

I’m starting to wonder about the --protocolhandler option. is it correct? And 
I’m using the Hangouts plugin; would it still be 
protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com> ? I notice that 
Pidgin doesn’t even start when I specify this option, which makes me think it 
rejected it entirely. --help doesn’t show --protocol. I’m on 2.13.0.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:14 PM
To: Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> >
Cc: Pidgin Support List mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

The windows installer .exe has an option to register handlers with XMPP, AIM 
and something else.

 

The manual way to do it used to be through:

Control Panel->Default Programs->Associate a file type or protocol with a 
program -> Choose default applications by protocol

but it looks like they've gotten rid of the option to manually add a protocol 
to the list now?

 

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 06:30, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

pid...@alexoren.com <mailto:pid...@alexoren.com>  wrote, in part:
>> the second does nothing.

>Works for me, but does not unescape the message, so spaces are a problem.

Also does nothing from a Run prompt. So I'm back to the original question: how 
do I register Pidgin to respond to XMPP: URLs?  

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RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

2018-10-23 Thread Phil Smith III
Ran with debugging:

(09:47:05) util: Processing message 'x...@gmail.com' for protocol 'xmpp' using 
delimiter ';'.

(09:47:05) GLib: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed

 

(the x...@gmail.com was a Gmail ID of mine, and it was valid)

 

From: Phil Smith III [mailto:li...@akphs.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:04 PM
To: 'Eion Robb' ; 'Phil Smith III' 
Cc: 'Pidgin Support List' 
Subject: RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

Well, ok, that’s kinda what I’d expected – I installed Pidgin so long ago that 
I’ve just let upgrades run without looking (since it’s one of the civilized 
installers that remembers the options!) and had forgotten it was there.

 

BUT it is set, and I just reinstalled to be sure. Looking in the Registry, I 
find:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xmpp\shell\Open\command]

has value

"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Pidgin\\pidgin.exe   
--protocolhandler=%1"

 

But:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Pidgin\pidgin.exe 
--protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com

from a Run or Command prompt does nothing.

 

I’m starting to wonder about the --protocolhandler option. is it correct? And 
I’m using the Hangouts plugin; would it still be 
protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com? I notice that Pidgin doesn’t even start 
when I specify this option, which makes me think it rejected it entirely. 
--help doesn’t show --protocol. I’m on 2.13.0.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:14 PM
To: Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> >
Cc: Pidgin Support List mailto:support@pidgin.im> >
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

The windows installer .exe has an option to register handlers with XMPP, AIM 
and something else.

 

The manual way to do it used to be through:

Control Panel->Default Programs->Associate a file type or protocol with a 
program -> Choose default applications by protocol

but it looks like they've gotten rid of the option to manually add a protocol 
to the list now?

 

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 06:30, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

pid...@alexoren.com <mailto:pid...@alexoren.com>  wrote, in part:
>> the second does nothing.

>Works for me, but does not unescape the message, so spaces are a problem.

Also does nothing from a Run prompt. So I'm back to the original question: how 
do I register Pidgin to respond to XMPP: URLs?  

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RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

2018-10-16 Thread Phil Smith III
Well, ok, that’s kinda what I’d expected – I installed Pidgin so long ago that 
I’ve just let upgrades run without looking (since it’s one of the civilized 
installers that remembers the options!) and had forgotten it was there.

 

BUT it is set, and I just reinstalled to be sure. Looking in the Registry, I 
find:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xmpp\shell\Open\command]

has value

"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Pidgin\\pidgin.exe --protocolhandler=%1"

 

But:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Pidgin\pidgin.exe 
--protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com

from a Run or Command prompt does nothing.

 

I’m starting to wonder about the --protocolhandler option. is it correct? And 
I’m using the Hangouts plugin; would it still be 
protocolhandler=xmpp:...@gmail.com? I notice that Pidgin doesn’t even start 
when I specify this option, which makes me think it rejected it entirely. 
--help doesn’t show --protocol. I’m on 2.13.0.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:14 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

The windows installer .exe has an option to register handlers with XMPP, AIM 
and something else.

 

The manual way to do it used to be through:

Control Panel->Default Programs->Associate a file type or protocol with a 
program -> Choose default applications by protocol

but it looks like they've gotten rid of the option to manually add a protocol 
to the list now?

 

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 06:30, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

pid...@alexoren.com <mailto:pid...@alexoren.com>  wrote, in part:
>> the second does nothing.

>Works for me, but does not unescape the message, so spaces are a problem.

Also does nothing from a Run prompt. So I'm back to the original question: how 
do I register Pidgin to respond to XMPP: URLs?  

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RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

2018-10-16 Thread Phil Smith III
pid...@alexoren.com wrote, in part:
>> the second does nothing.

>Works for me, but does not unescape the message, so spaces are a problem.

Also does nothing from a Run prompt. So I'm back to the original question: how 
do I register Pidgin to respond to XMPP: URLs?  

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RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

2018-10-15 Thread Phil Smith III
The first of those starts email; the second does nothing.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 2:52 PM
To: Phil Smith III 
Cc: Pidgin Support List 
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

At it's most simple, you can use

 

xmpp:ro...@montague.net <mailto:xmpp%3aro...@montague.net> 

 

But you can get more complicated and use

xmpp:ro...@montague.net?message;body=Here%27s%20a%20test%20message 
<http://xmpp:ro...@montague.net?message;body=Here%27s%20a%20test%20message> 


to include a message.

 

Other examples from https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0147.html that Pidgin 
supports are   "?roster"  to add someone to the buddy list and  "?join"  to 
join a group chat/MUC

 

Cheers,

Eion

 

 

On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 05:04, Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

Thanks! Question then becomes, how do I make the equivalent of this:

 

start aim:goim?screenname=friend1

 

…which with AIM would start an IM tab with FRIEND1? 

 

From: Mark Rousell [mailto:mark.rous...@signal100.com 
<mailto:mark.rous...@signal100.com> ] 
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:04 PM
To: Phil Smith III mailto:li...@akphs.com> >; 
support@pidgin.im <mailto:support@pidgin.im> 
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

On 12/10/2018 15:18, Phil Smith III wrote:

Been Googling but cannot seem to find answer: can I register xmpp: URLs in 
Windows, so I can give my wife a .bat file to start her IM tabs in Pidgin?


Did anyone reply to this?

The short answer is yes, you can register xmpp: URLs in Windows (or any other 
URL). Any URL can be associated with a program (and with particular command 
line parameters for the program).

If you want the program to do a particular thing then it depends on the program 
supporting command line parameters to do that thing.

Doesn't Pidgin register various URLs when it is installed? I can't remember.

-- 
Mark Rousell
 
 
 

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RE: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

2018-10-14 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks! Question then becomes, how do I make the equivalent of this:

 

start aim:goim?screenname=friend1

 

…which with AIM would start an IM tab with FRIEND1? 

 

From: Mark Rousell [mailto:mark.rous...@signal100.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:04 PM
To: Phil Smith III ; support@pidgin.im
Subject: Re: xmpp: URLs in Windows?

 

On 12/10/2018 15:18, Phil Smith III wrote:

Been Googling but cannot seem to find answer: can I register xmpp: URLs in 
Windows, so I can give my wife a .bat file to start her IM tabs in Pidgin?


Did anyone reply to this?

The short answer is yes, you can register xmpp: URLs in Windows (or any other 
URL). Any URL can be associated with a program (and with particular command 
line parameters for the program).

If you want the program to do a particular thing then it depends on the program 
supporting command line parameters to do that thing.

Doesn't Pidgin register various URLs when it is installed? I can't remember.

-- 
Mark Rousell
 
 
 
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xmpp: URLs in Windows?

2018-10-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Been Googling but cannot seem to find answer: can I register xmpp: URLs in 
Windows, so I can give my wife a .bat file to start her IM tabs in Pidgin?

 

 

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Re: "Unable to validate certificate"

2018-01-10 Thread Phil Smith III
Alex Oren write:
>OK, found it:
>https://pki.goog/roots.pem

OK. I know a moderate amount about certs; what trust store does Pidgin use on 
Windows?

Mind you, the messages have stopped, so maybe it's using the Windows trust 
store and that got updated...

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RE: "Unable to validate certificate"

2018-01-06 Thread Phil Smith III
And they came back in the evening, though they're gone again now. Very weird. 
Well, maybe not: if it's ONE server, maybe load is higher in the evening, so 
that server gets pressed into action, goes idle eventually? If there's some 
sort of client-server persistence, then that might continue until that server 
goes idle again and gets dropped from the cluster. Of course I'm making this up 
as I go along, but it does fit the symptoms...

-Original Message-
From: pid...@alexoren.com [mailto:pid...@alexoren.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 5:27 PM
To: Phil Smith III <phs3st...@cox.net>; Pidgin <support@pidgin.im>
Subject: Re: "Unable to validate certificate"

I am still getting those popups.

Why wouldn't Pidgin remember the accepted certificate?

On 05/01/2018 10:04 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:
> Saw that, but it *seems* slightly different.
> 
> Weirdly, after getting them all evening and night (based on the number of 
> popups I had to close!), I got a few throughout the morning and then they 
> stopped. So maybe it really was a Google problem--maybe one server behind a 
> LB with a bad cert?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pid...@alexoren.com [mailto:pid...@alexoren.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 2:57 PM
> To: phs3stuff <phs3st...@cox.net>; support@pidgin.im
> Subject: Re: "Unable to validate certificate"
> 
> Similar issue here:
> 
>   The certificate for 0.client-channel.google.com could not be validated.
>   The certificate is not trusted because no certificate that can verify 
> it is currently trusted.
> 
> There's an issue on Bitbucket:
> https://bitbucket.org/EionRobb/purple-hangouts/issues/168/certificate-issues
> 
> 
> On 05/01/2018 3:48 PM, phs3stuff wrote:
>> After running flawlessly for a while, I'm suddenly getting:
>>
>> Unable to validate certificate
>>
>> The certificate for clients6.google.com could not be validated. The 
>> certificate chain presented is invalid.
>>
>> This happens repeatedly at random intervals. Sometimes I get several of 
>> these dialogs at once, sometimes just one.
>>
>> I know what an invalid certificate chain is, just not what to do about it 
>> for this. Seems like the server is presenting the invalid chain, which I 
>> can't really fix anyway, eh?
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Windows 7, fully patched; Help/About says:
>> Pidgin 2.12.0 (libpurple 2.12.0)
>> Unknown
>>
>> (what's the "Unknown" about??)
>> And I'm using the Hangouts plugin.
> 
> 

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RE: "Unable to validate certificate"

2018-01-05 Thread Phil Smith III
Saw that, but it *seems* slightly different.

Weirdly, after getting them all evening and night (based on the number of 
popups I had to close!), I got a few throughout the morning and then they 
stopped. So maybe it really was a Google problem--maybe one server behind a LB 
with a bad cert?

-Original Message-
From: pid...@alexoren.com [mailto:pid...@alexoren.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 2:57 PM
To: phs3stuff ; support@pidgin.im
Subject: Re: "Unable to validate certificate"

Similar issue here:

The certificate for 0.client-channel.google.com could not be validated.
The certificate is not trusted because no certificate that can verify 
it is currently trusted.

There's an issue on Bitbucket:
https://bitbucket.org/EionRobb/purple-hangouts/issues/168/certificate-issues


On 05/01/2018 3:48 PM, phs3stuff wrote:
> After running flawlessly for a while, I'm suddenly getting:
> 
> Unable to validate certificate
> 
> The certificate for clients6.google.com could not be validated. The 
> certificate chain presented is invalid.
> 
> This happens repeatedly at random intervals. Sometimes I get several of these 
> dialogs at once, sometimes just one.
> 
> I know what an invalid certificate chain is, just not what to do about it for 
> this. Seems like the server is presenting the invalid chain, which I can't 
> really fix anyway, eh?
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Windows 7, fully patched; Help/About says:
> Pidgin 2.12.0 (libpurple 2.12.0)
> Unknown
> 
> (what's the "Unknown" about??)
> And I'm using the Hangouts plugin.


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RE: GMail (Hangouts/GTalk/whatever it's called this week) user showing offline

2017-12-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks:

 

XMPP. I can try the Hangouts plugin…if it would echo entire conversations into 
Pidgin, that would be great (I lose my replies from my phone currently).

 

They just show as Offline.

 

From: Eion Robb [mailto:e...@robbmob.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 3:20 AM
To: Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com>
Cc: Pidgin Support List <support@pidgin.im>
Subject: Re: GMail (Hangouts/GTalk/whatever it's called this week) user showing 
offline

 

Hi there,

 

Just to check, are you using GTalk (XMPP) that's built-in to Pidgin or the 
Hangouts plugin?

 

Also, are the buddies that are offline showing as "Not Authorized" when you 
display offline buddies in the buddy list?

 

Cheers,

Eion

 

On 26 December 2017 at 08:34, Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com 
<mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote:

One of my GMail correspondents has started showing offline, even tho she’s 
online. I deleted and re-added, and it was OK for a while. A bunch of Googling 
suggests this has happened before, but my search fu did not find anything 
useful. Ideas?


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GMail (Hangouts/GTalk/whatever it's called this week) user showing offline

2017-12-25 Thread Phil Smith III
One of my GMail correspondents has started showing offline, even tho she's
online. I deleted and re-added, and it was OK for a while. A bunch of
Googling suggests this has happened before, but my search fu did not find
anything useful. Ideas?

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Mistyped usernames

2009-05-22 Thread Phil Smith III
I'm a keyboard guy, and I tend to add conversations to my Pidgin window via 
cntrlM and then typing part of their name. That gets me  a drop-down.

However, it doesn't always default to the right protocol (AIM, Y!M, et al.). 
And if I hit ENTER at that point, I wind up with a bogus window. That's 
arguably a bug, but it's actually not my question.

Once I've done that, the next time I type part of the user's name, the bogus 
one appears as well as any valid one(s) I've ever entered.

I hunted these down and whacked the bogus once once -- I swear I did! -- but 
now I can't find them. I've searched all the Pidgin directories I can find as 
well as the Registry.

Can someone suggest where this list is maintained?

Thanks,

...phsiii



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RE: Mistyped usernames

2009-05-22 Thread Phil Smith III
Mm, no -- otherwise the bogus entries would not persist, would they?

Try typing this:
cntrlM
xyzzyenter
hi
cntrlW
xyz

Ah HAH -- but that led me to the answer: it's looking at existing log files. If 
I delete the xyzzy directory hiding in my logs, xyzzy is no longer offered as a 
choice. Thanks, you led me to the answer!

...phsiii
-Original Message-
From: Sascha Vogt [mailto:funkyf...@gmx.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:19 PM
To: support@pidgin.im
Cc: Phil Smith III
Subject: Re: Mistyped usernames

Hi,

Phil Smith III schrieb:
 Can someone suggest where this list is maintained?
Actually, I think this List is just a search over the regular buddy 
list, which is stored in the blist.xml unter your .purple directory in 
your home directory.

Greetings
-Sascha-

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