Re: Constant crash on PDF links.

2010-04-03 Thread Paul

Vampire13 wrote:

Paul wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

I find any attempts to connect to links such as;

http://www.hp.com/hho/hp_create/toys_games-3d_paper_crafts-3d_dragons.html?ref=toys_games-3d_paper_craftsjumpid=em_r11400_us/en/hho/IPG/ipg20_cpt_em_hpn_1896hhosnl=hpn_1896|756831|3F19073FE9A539D5|C9527EEDD693A486978D9DFFE3F9D632 




(I know it's a big one) results in Seamonkey crashing. This has been
true for 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 in my case. It seems to be true for links
connecting to PDF files. IE8 connects without difficulty. My OS is
Windows 7 with 8 GB memory and ample disk space. I just did a clean
install of 2.0.4 after uninstalling 2.0.3 but the problem remains.

BTW, I can usually right click and save the link target with no
problem but, clicking to connect crashes Seamonkey.

Any suggestions??

vampire13


You did not say what your pdf viewer is.
I use Foxit and it works great.
Very cool site, btw. Thanks!


You're welcome.

My viewer is ADOBE Reader, latest version. I have no problem opening the 
PDF's if I save the link targets to my hard drive.


Ed


IMO, Adobe is bloatware.  I think its around 70 megs now
just for a reader.  And it calls home constantly.
See if Foxit has a version compatible with Win7.
Mine (XP version) is less than 6 megs and does not send all my
data to Foxit.
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Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x

2010-04-03 Thread Bernard Mercier
Dennis McCunney a exprimé avec précision :
 On 4/2/2010 4:30 PM, * JeffM:
 Paul wrote:
 I also don't see why every one is so worried about viruses, zombies, etc.
 
 When you use an OS that has you always running as root
 (e.g. the standard version of Puppy),
 drive-by infections and the ability of any user to bork the OS
 are constant worries.
 
 The logical solution is to get an OS that has proper user levels.
 There has been a Puplet with this feature since November 2009.

 Puppy gets away with it because it's an explicitly single-user system.
 There *aren't* other users to bork the OS.  If Puppy was a shared
 system, that would be an issue, but if you expect others besides you to
 ever use the box, Puppy isn't what you run.

 (I've seen discussions on the Puppy forum who want to set up the system
 so others like family members can use it.  That's not a simple task.)

 And the likelihood of drive by infections is minimal, considering that
 it's a Linux system, and by default uses SeaMonkey 1.1X as the
 browser/email client.

 If you think about it, MS-DOS, and Windows up to Vista used the the
 logged on user is administrator with all powers approach.  Vista caused
 much wailing and gnashing of teeth because it defaulted to a power
 user profile and required run as admin settings for many things
 people were used to doing, but it's arguably what Windows should have
 done to begin with.

 I run Puppy, as well as Ubuntu 9.10 on an old Fujitsu Lifebook p2110
 with an 867mhz Crusoe processor, 256MB RAM, and a 40GB UDMA 4 HD. I got
 Puppy because I was looking for a distro that would actually run
 acceptably on limited hardware.  Puppy does, more or less.  I originally
 installed Xubuntu along with Puppy, but it was snail slow.  Wiping the
 partition, reformatting as ext4, and installing Ubuntu from the
 MinimalCD to get a bare bones command line instalaltion, then grabbing
 Xfce4 and other preferred packages with apt-get produced a system that
 isn't as sprightly as Puppy, but is usable if I'm patient.

 I have static builds of SM 1.1.19 and 2.04, and Opera 10.10 installed
 under Puppy, as well as Google Chrome 5.0 Beta, Firefox 3.6 and a few
 other things like Midori and Dillo installed.  To the extent I browse
 from the Puppy box, I use SM 1.1.19.  FF 3.6 is my preferred browser on
 my desktop, bit it's just too bag and slow on the Puppy box (it takes
 over 30 seconds just to load, and is sluggish once up.)  SeaMonkey 2.04
 isn't much better.  Unfortunately, current versions of Mozilla products
 just aren't suitable for lower end kit.  They need more horsepowwer than
 the box is likely to have.

 Puppy tends to get installed on lower end hardware that things like Red
 Hat, SuSE and Ubuntu are simply too much for.  (My Puppy box is about in
 the middle of what is run in Puppy land.  There are machines with 200mhz
 CPUs and 64MB RAM successfully running versions of Puppy.  Try that with
 most distros, and see how far you get.)

 I started using *nix in the 80's with ATT System V Release 2, and have
 used a variety of flavors since.  Puppy's All root, all the time
 approach took considerable adjustment, and I'd like to run a multi-user
 version.  (Puppy forum member Pizzasgood's puplet is based on the 4.21
 release, and reproducing his work in the current 4.31 release would be a
 challenge.)  So I grit my teeth, and run s root, but security isn't my
 big concern when I do so.
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Hi, nice to see you here as well.
There is nothing I can add to this.
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread John
In article pjodnxdxrm-ymc_wnz2dnuvz_tadn...@mozilla.org,
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid wrote:

 John wrote:
 
  That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
  wnat this capability built into sea monkey.
 
 Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with something
 that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is?  With either of your 2
 good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks away from connecting
 to your web server now. With an already-working, proven application.

Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But its 
very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor).
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread John
In article caednwak6_regi7wnz2dnuvz_v6dn...@mozilla.org,
 Bernard Mercier merci...@not.yahoo.this.com wrote:

 Le 30/03/2010, John a supposé :
  When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? 
  Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont 
  always know.
 There are programs in Windows which perform automatically what you request.
 (google is your friend)
 This functionality doesn't has it's place in SeaMonkey, unless somebody makes
 an addon for it.

I have 2 FTP clients man. But if one is creating websites such a feature 
should be built into the client, just like how its built into my HTML 
editor TextWrangler.
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 4/3/2010 5:46 AM, John typed the following:
 In article pjodnxdxrm-ymc_wnz2dnuvz_tadn...@mozilla.org,
  Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid wrote:
 
 John wrote:

 That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
 wnat this capability built into sea monkey.

 Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with something
 that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is?  With either of your 2
 good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks away from connecting
 to your web server now. With an already-working, proven application.
 
 Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But its 
 very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor).

My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer' feature.
Make it an add-on for those that want it.

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
BeeNeR wrote:

 John typed the following:
  Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid wrote:
 John wrote:
 That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
 wnat this capability built into sea monkey.
 
 Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with
 something that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is?  With
 either of your 2 good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks
 away from connecting to your web server now. With an
 already-working, proven application.
 
 Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But
 its very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor).
 
 My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer'
 feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it.

My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused
during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom' installation.
Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that.

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Re: how to get rid of form entry

2010-04-03 Thread Robert Kaiser

Jim schrieb:

Thanks Robert, that worked (and was simple).


It's quite nice, but unfortunately a bit hard to discover unless someone 
tells you.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: seamonkey 2.04 Tabs are back

2010-04-03 Thread Daniel

question wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

2.04 has brought TABS back... I hate Tabes.. Can someone remind me of
How I got rid of them in 2.03?
In preference Tab browsing Has nothing to Get Rid of the Tabs


How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??

Daniel

Thanks but Nothing there seems to Work to eliminate Tabs


To close tabs, these is a little x on the tab bar...click it to close
the current tab.

Daniel

Go back and check Daniel in SM 2.0.3/2.0.4 the is no + to click to close
a tab.

To close a Tab you must hold down control Key some where on the tab to
be closed and choose Close this tab.

http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture001.png

I am using orbit 3+1 Theme but is same in both of the provided themes.

I don't use tabs. hate them worth a passion they are a resource hog and
the way I work I can get a long just fine not using them. I normally
have if only one tab is open hide tab checked. I unchecked to conduct
this experiment

It's in FireFox has always been but never SeaMonkey. I suppose its an
oversight, developers though they put it in but they didn't.

You want to eliminate tabs altogether set everything as I have in this
window:
http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture002a.png.

That will even get rid of the stupid tabs for mail and news as well
(thankfully).

Thank You Thank You... Your link is the Cure .

For some who posted here .

There is No problem Closing Tabs.. We all know how to close a TAB...

My Question Was NOT having tabs LOAD at all.. Eliminate TABS all together .

The goofiest Remark was the one telling me to Go back to a previous post
for an earlier Version of Seamonkey.
I use a Newsgroup server and not a web based newsgroups, Once I mark a
post READ it is Gone Forever, since I only load NEW POST .




Hang on, credit where credit is due, if you don't mind...In my original 
reply to your post, question, I told you:-


quote
How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your 
selections??

end quote

And where did Phillip's picture send you:-

How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your 
selections??


Credit where credits due, please

Daniel
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Re: Constant crash on PDF links.

2010-04-03 Thread Daniel

Vampire13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

I find any attempts to connect to links such as;

http://www.hp.com/hho/hp_create/toys_games-3d_paper_crafts-3d_dragons.html?ref=toys_games-3d_paper_craftsjumpid=em_r11400_us/en/hho/IPG/ipg20_cpt_em_hpn_1896hhosnl=hpn_1896|756831|3F19073FE9A539D5|C9527EEDD693A486978D9DFFE3F9D632






(I know it's a big one) results in Seamonkey crashing. This has been
true for 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 in my case. It seems to be true for links
connecting to PDF files. IE8 connects without difficulty. My OS is
Windows 7 with 8 GB memory and ample disk space. I just did a clean
install of 2.0.4 after uninstalling 2.0.3 but the problem remains.

BTW, I can usually right click and save the link target with no
problem
but, clicking to connect crashes Seamonkey.

Any suggestions??

vampire13


That part of your link that is a link (i.e. the bit in blue, up to the
=hpn_1896), works for me!

Linux, SM 2.0.4

Or are you just trying to advertise the film??

Daniel


Not likely, I was looking to download a project for my grandson. I don't
know where you find a film, since the end file is a PDF. Don't be so
suspicious, I'm 77 and retired with no ambition to advertise anything.
I'm just trying to find out why PDF links crash my Seamonkey.

vampire13


What PDF link?? on that part on the link you provided, I don't see any
mention of PDF!

Daniel


Daniel:

My apologies, I assumed responders would check the View and
Instructions links next to the images which are the links to PDF files
I should have made that clearer. By now I should know not to assume
anything. I certainly can connect to the page but whenever I click on
any of the indicated links Seamonkey crashes and closes. Again, this
only happens in Seamonkey. I can right click and save the target but, I
cannot open the links in my browser.

Ed




Ed, have you got anything set up as a helper to help SM handle PDF's?

Daniel
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Re: Constant crash on PDF links.

2010-04-03 Thread Phillip Jones

Daniel wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

I find any attempts to connect to links such as;

http://www.hp.com/hho/hp_create/toys_games-3d_paper_crafts-3d_dragons.html?ref=toys_games-3d_paper_craftsjumpid=em_r11400_us/en/hho/IPG/ipg20_cpt_em_hpn_1896hhosnl=hpn_1896|756831|3F19073FE9A539D5|C9527EEDD693A486978D9DFFE3F9D632






(I know it's a big one) results in Seamonkey crashing. This has been
true for 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 in my case. It seems to be true for links
connecting to PDF files. IE8 connects without difficulty. My OS is
Windows 7 with 8 GB memory and ample disk space. I just did a clean
install of 2.0.4 after uninstalling 2.0.3 but the problem remains.

BTW, I can usually right click and save the link target with no
problem
but, clicking to connect crashes Seamonkey.

Any suggestions??

vampire13


That part of your link that is a link (i.e. the bit in blue, up to the
=hpn_1896), works for me!

Linux, SM 2.0.4

Or are you just trying to advertise the film??

Daniel


Not likely, I was looking to download a project for my grandson. I don't
know where you find a film, since the end file is a PDF. Don't be so
suspicious, I'm 77 and retired with no ambition to advertise anything.
I'm just trying to find out why PDF links crash my Seamonkey.

vampire13


What PDF link?? on that part on the link you provided, I don't see any
mention of PDF!

Daniel


Daniel:

My apologies, I assumed responders would check the View and
Instructions links next to the images which are the links to PDF files
I should have made that clearer. By now I should know not to assume
anything. I certainly can connect to the page but whenever I click on
any of the indicated links Seamonkey crashes and closes. Again, this
only happens in Seamonkey. I can right click and save the target but, I
cannot open the links in my browser.

Ed




Ed, have you got anything set up as a helper to help SM handle PDF's?

Daniel


I don't know if this works for other than Mac Platform Google for PDF 
Browser Plugin by Schubert.


It works with Safari, SeaMonkey, FireFox, Camino, Thunderbird, iCab, 
OmniWeb, Opera. It doesn't work with Internet Explorer. One thing it 
doesn't allow is on screen filling of forms. Back in OS9 days it did.


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Re: seamonkey 2.04 Tabs are back

2010-04-03 Thread Phillip Jones

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

2.04 has brought TABS back... I hate Tabes.. Can someone remind me of
How I got rid of them in 2.03?
In preference Tab browsing Has nothing to Get Rid of the Tabs


How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??

Daniel

Thanks but Nothing there seems to Work to eliminate Tabs


To close tabs, these is a little x on the tab bar...click it to close
the current tab.

Daniel

Go back and check Daniel in SM 2.0.3/2.0.4 the is no + to click to close
a tab.

To close a Tab you must hold down control Key some where on the tab to
be closed and choose Close this tab.

http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture001.png

I am using orbit 3+1 Theme but is same in both of the provided themes.

I don't use tabs. hate them worth a passion they are a resource hog and
the way I work I can get a long just fine not using them. I normally
have if only one tab is open hide tab checked. I unchecked to conduct
this experiment

It's in FireFox has always been but never SeaMonkey. I suppose its an
oversight, developers though they put it in but they didn't.

You want to eliminate tabs altogether set everything as I have in this
window:
http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture002a.png.

That will even get rid of the stupid tabs for mail and news as well
(thankfully).

Thank You Thank You... Your link is the Cure .

For some who posted here .

There is No problem Closing Tabs.. We all know how to close a TAB...

My Question Was NOT having tabs LOAD at all.. Eliminate TABS all together .

The goofiest Remark was the one telling me to Go back to a previous post
for an earlier Version of Seamonkey.
I use a Newsgroup server and not a web based newsgroups, Once I mark a
post READ it is Gone Forever, since I only load NEW POST .




Hang on, credit where credit is due, if you don't mind...In my original
reply to your post, question, I told you:-

quote
How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??
end quote

And where did Phillip's picture send you:-

How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??

Credit where credits due, please

Daniel


I don't care about credit. I all I am interested in, is the person finds 
out how to do what they want.  Let's just post both ourselves on the back.


That's why I wish they would allow screen shots on the Groups its a lot 
easier to show, rather than explain. If a person can see the item then 
understand and remember it longer.


I am tired though of having to use my website to do this, then having to 
remove them after a few weeks.


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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Phillip Jones

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

BeeNeR wrote:

---snip---


My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer'
feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it.


My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused
during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom' installation.
Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that.

That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg 
(pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or nothing. 
beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's abilities.


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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi John:

If SM is like the old Netscape then it already has the ability to UPLOAD 
web pages.
It's done by browsing to the ftp site then drag and drop the file from 
your computer to the web page.


I've been using Composer since it came out in Netscape 3.0.

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Re: seamonkey 2.04 Tabs are back

2010-04-03 Thread Rick Merrill

Phillip Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

2.04 has brought TABS back... I hate Tabes.. Can someone remind
me of
How I got rid of them in 2.03?
In preference Tab browsing Has nothing to Get Rid of the Tabs


How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??

Daniel

Thanks but Nothing there seems to Work to eliminate Tabs


To close tabs, these is a little x on the tab bar...click it to close
the current tab.

Daniel

Go back and check Daniel in SM 2.0.3/2.0.4 the is no + to click to
close
a tab.

To close a Tab you must hold down control Key some where on the tab to
be closed and choose Close this tab.

http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture001.png

I am using orbit 3+1 Theme but is same in both of the provided themes.

I don't use tabs. hate them worth a passion they are a resource hog and
the way I work I can get a long just fine not using them. I normally
have if only one tab is open hide tab checked. I unchecked to conduct
this experiment

It's in FireFox has always been but never SeaMonkey. I suppose its an
oversight, developers though they put it in but they didn't.

You want to eliminate tabs altogether set everything as I have in this
window:
http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture002a.png.

That will even get rid of the stupid tabs for mail and news as well
(thankfully).

Thank You Thank You... Your link is the Cure .

For some who posted here .

There is No problem Closing Tabs.. We all know how to close a TAB...

My Question Was NOT having tabs LOAD at all.. Eliminate TABS all
together .

The goofiest Remark was the one telling me to Go back to a previous post
for an earlier Version of Seamonkey.
I use a Newsgroup server and not a web based newsgroups, Once I mark a
post READ it is Gone Forever, since I only load NEW POST .




Hang on, credit where credit is due, if you don't mind...In my original
reply to your post, question, I told you:-

quote
How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??
end quote

And where did Phillip's picture send you:-

How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??

Credit where credits due, please

Daniel


I don't care about credit. I all I am interested in, is the person finds
out how to do what they want. Let's just post both ourselves on the back.

That's why I wish they would allow screen shots on the Groups its a lot
easier to show, rather than explain. If a person can see the item then
understand and remember it longer.

I am tired though of having to use my website to do this, then having to
remove them after a few weeks.



Put a lable on the picture that is a URL to the newsgroup, then you can 
re-use the file name.  Thus a new reply replaces the old one ...


Of course you'll have to pace yourself to not post too quickly ;-)


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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Phillip Jones wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 BeeNeR wrote:
 My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer'
 feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it.
 
 My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused
 during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom'
 installation. Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that. 
 
 That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg
 (pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or
 nothing. beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's
 abilities.

Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to get Linux/Unix!
and Be In Charge!   ;-)

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Phillip Jones

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

BeeNeR wrote:

My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer'
feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it.


My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused
during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom'
installation. Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that.


That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg
(pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or
nothing. beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's
abilities.


Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to get Linux/Unix!
and Be In Charge!   ;-)



No thanks Mac Os is just fine.  besides its not the OS  that the problem 
it the installer package the use doesn't allow for such if the used a 
Package (pkg) download and when installer open have a way to customize. 
Instead you drag the application out of the dmg and drop it on 
application and everything installs. Even so I would still install all 
the components except maybe the IRC client.


I'm not comfortable using the terminal application to run UNIX commands 
I'd hate to have do that all the time I don't wish to go back to the 
Config.sys files and autoexec.bat and bak files. I had to deal with that 
back when I was working with school system and her a kid could easily go 
in if left to their on devices and run the Init command and wipe out 6 
months worth of files or more,  so next time a teacher aimed to use it 
for their information the would be greeted with a blank screen then I 
would have to go and reinstall everything and have to try to recreate 
everything.


Nope none of that. AS I understand it your still capable whether by 
accident or on purpose to wipe out your main drive while your using it 
or damage your drive so bad, you'll have to go buy another if you type 
an errant key combination

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Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Is there a way (extension?) to allow one to zoom just text without 
bothering the default full zoom?  It is all right if the solution 
provides full zoom while the default is text zoom.  I just want to 
have text zoom and full zoom separately without the need to 
constantly change the application wide setting.


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Re: Constant crash on PDF links.

2010-04-03 Thread Vampire13

Daniel wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Vampire13 wrote:

I find any attempts to connect to links such as;

http://www.hp.com/hho/hp_create/toys_games-3d_paper_crafts-3d_dragons.html?ref=toys_games-3d_paper_craftsjumpid=em_r11400_us/en/hho/IPG/ipg20_cpt_em_hpn_1896hhosnl=hpn_1896|756831|3F19073FE9A539D5|C9527EEDD693A486978D9DFFE3F9D632







(I know it's a big one) results in Seamonkey crashing. This has been
true for 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 in my case. It seems to be true for links
connecting to PDF files. IE8 connects without difficulty. My OS is
Windows 7 with 8 GB memory and ample disk space. I just did a clean
install of 2.0.4 after uninstalling 2.0.3 but the problem remains.

BTW, I can usually right click and save the link target with no
problem
but, clicking to connect crashes Seamonkey.

Any suggestions??

vampire13


That part of your link that is a link (i.e. the bit in blue, up to the
=hpn_1896), works for me!

Linux, SM 2.0.4

Or are you just trying to advertise the film??

Daniel


Not likely, I was looking to download a project for my grandson. I
don't
know where you find a film, since the end file is a PDF. Don't be so
suspicious, I'm 77 and retired with no ambition to advertise anything.
I'm just trying to find out why PDF links crash my Seamonkey.

vampire13


What PDF link?? on that part on the link you provided, I don't see any
mention of PDF!

Daniel


Daniel:

My apologies, I assumed responders would check the View and
Instructions links next to the images which are the links to PDF files
I should have made that clearer. By now I should know not to assume
anything. I certainly can connect to the page but whenever I click on
any of the indicated links Seamonkey crashes and closes. Again, this
only happens in Seamonkey. I can right click and save the target but, I
cannot open the links in my browser.

Ed




Ed, have you got anything set up as a helper to help SM handle PDF's?

Daniel


Good catch Daniel, PDF documents under helpers was set to always ask I 
reset it to use ADOBE Reader as default and presto, the links now open 
in an ADOBE window. The other ADOBE files are set to open the reader in 
Seamonkey. I haven't had occasion to test them but, at least I know 
where to go if there is a problem.


My thanks to all the good people for their help and suggestions.

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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Is there a way (extension?) to allow one to zoom just text without 
bothering the default full zoom?  It is all right if the solution 
provides full zoom while the default is text zoom.  I just want to

have text zoom and full zoom separately without the need to
constantly change the application wide setting.


Have you tried the Windows Magnifier, under Accessories | Accessibility?

It'll show you magnified text in a small pane, following the cursor 
around, while leaving the main pane unaffected. If you like it, set a 
global keyboard shortcut to turn it on and off.


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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread David McRitchie



Stanimir Stamenkov   ...
Is there a way (extension?) to allow one to zoom just text without 
bothering the default full zoom?  It is all right if the solution 
provides full zoom while the default is text zoom.  I just want to 
have text zoom and full zoom separately without the need to 
constantly change the application wide setting.   //  Stanimir


Hi Stanimir,
Firefox itself will allow to to choose, but wouldn't be what you want.
  browser.zoom.fullTrue(default)/False 
  browser.zoom.siteSpecific  True(default)/False 


Ctrl++ (zoom in),  Ctrl+- (zoom out),  Ctrl+0  (return to normal)

Image Zoom will selectively zoom a single image, so combined with any
other method of zooming probably fulfills your need.

Image Zoom,  Right click on an image and select a zoom option from the 
 popup menu, or, hold down the right mouse button in combination 
 with the mouse wheel to zoom in or out on a single image image. 
 (Compatible with Mouse Zoom

http://imagezoom.yellowgorilla.net/

Mouse Zoom,  Zoom all text and images on page with the mouse.  Hold the right
mouse button and turn the mouse wheel to zoom in/out. Hold the right mouse
button and click left to reset to normal font size. [Options].  Compatible with 
   Firefox's own text zoom (Ctrl+0, Ctrl++, Ctrl+-) controls. [options] 
   Displays zoom level when changing. 
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2244


AutoHide,  Hide/See the toolbars of your choice in Full Screen (F11/context) or
Shift+F11 for Full Window mode.  differences from Firefox because you can
choose which toolbars to show or hide, and it offer Full Window mode

A couple of zoom searches from the Addons site search bar  (May show old 
extensions)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=zoomcat=allas=trueappid=1hver=anyatype=0pid=1lup=pp=100sort=name
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=zoom

A site search at mozillazine.org (paste into a Google search)
 site:kb.mozillazine.org -intitle:talk browser.zoom

For more information see
  http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm#zoom
  http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/keyboard.htm
  http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/mouse.htm
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Re: seamonkey 2.04 Tabs are back

2010-04-03 Thread question

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

Daniel wrote:

question wrote:

2.04 has brought TABS back... I hate Tabes.. Can someone remind
me of
How I got rid of them in 2.03?
In preference Tab browsing Has nothing to Get Rid of the Tabs


How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??

Daniel

Thanks but Nothing there seems to Work to eliminate Tabs


To close tabs, these is a little x on the tab bar...click it to close
the current tab.

Daniel

Go back and check Daniel in SM 2.0.3/2.0.4 the is no + to click to close
a tab.

To close a Tab you must hold down control Key some where on the tab to
be closed and choose Close this tab.

http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture001.png

I am using orbit 3+1 Theme but is same in both of the provided themes.

I don't use tabs. hate them worth a passion they are a resource hog and
the way I work I can get a long just fine not using them. I normally
have if only one tab is open hide tab checked. I unchecked to conduct
this experiment

It's in FireFox has always been but never SeaMonkey. I suppose its an
oversight, developers though they put it in but they didn't.

You want to eliminate tabs altogether set everything as I have in this
window:
http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture002a.png.

That will even get rid of the stupid tabs for mail and news as well
(thankfully).

Thank You Thank You... Your link is the Cure .

For some who posted here .

There is No problem Closing Tabs.. We all know how to close a TAB...

My Question Was NOT having tabs LOAD at all.. Eliminate TABS all
together .

The goofiest Remark was the one telling me to Go back to a previous post
for an earlier Version of Seamonkey.
I use a Newsgroup server and not a web based newsgroups, Once I mark a
post READ it is Gone Forever, since I only load NEW POST .




Hang on, credit where credit is due, if you don't mind...In my original
reply to your post, question, I told you:-

quote
How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??
end quote

And where did Phillip's picture send you:-

How about Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and make your
selections??

Credit where credits due, please

Daniel
 I knew where the Settings were . But the Setting were written as if in 
Greek. Not understandable...

 I suggest that in those setting it should Have a NO TABS WANTED .
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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:13:38 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Is there a way (extension?) to allow one to zoom just text without 
bothering the default full zoom?  It is all right if the solution 
provides full zoom while the default is text zoom.  I just want to 
have text zoom and full zoom separately without the need to 
constantly change the application wide setting.


Have you tried the Windows Magnifier, under Accessories | Accessibility?

It'll show you magnified text in a small pane, following the cursor 
around, while leaving the main pane unaffected. If you like it, set a 
global keyboard shortcut to turn it on and off.


Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't really need the Windows 
Magnifier.  I need a convenient way to zoom just text (like with 
SeaMonkey 1/Firefox 2) without changing the global zoom setting of full 
zoom vs. text zoom (SeaMonkey 2/Firefox 3), i.e. I would like to have 
some of the pages zoomed using full zoom and some of the pages having 
just the text enlarged (and may be some using a combination of the two 
methods).  This is mainly for testing the styling and layout of the 
pages and how it behaves in face of text size changes beyond the author 
control, not that I personally need more accessibility aids.


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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:13:55 -0400, /David McRitchie/:

Mouse Zoom,  Zoom all text and images on page with the mouse.  Hold 
the right
mouse button and turn the mouse wheel to zoom in/out. Hold the 
right mouse
button and click left to reset to normal font size. [Options].  
Compatible withFirefox's own text zoom (Ctrl+0, Ctrl++, Ctrl+-) 
controls. [options]Displays zoom level when changing.   
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2244


Thank you for providing such a comprehensive list of options (see the 
original message for all of them).  I was hoping the Mouse Zoom 
extension will give me what I want but it just provides an alternative 
input for the global zoom option - either full zoom or text only zoom.  
What I really want is having both zoom methods available at the same time.


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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread Roger Fink
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:13:55 -0400, /David McRitchie/:

 Mouse Zoom,  Zoom all text and images on page with the mouse.  Hold
 the right
 mouse button and turn the mouse wheel to zoom in/out. Hold the
 right mouse
 button and click left to reset to normal font size. [Options].
 Compatible withFirefox's own text zoom (Ctrl+0, Ctrl++, Ctrl+-)
 controls. [options]Displays zoom level when changing.
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2244

 Thank you for providing such a comprehensive list of options (see the
 original message for all of them).  I was hoping the Mouse Zoom
 extension will give me what I want but it just provides an alternative
 input for the global zoom option - either full zoom or text only zoom.
 What I really want is having both zoom methods available at the same
 time.

You can try this:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#nosquint
Note that if you use prefbar, Increase Font and Decrease Font will pick up
your nosquint settings.

Note to all seamonkey rainmakers: there must be a way of getting this and
the many other extensions on this page
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html
onto addons.mozilla.org. These are important extensions that in many cases
(such as nosquint) greatly increase ease of use of seamonkey. Unfortunately,
most of the user base probably can't find them.






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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread David McRitchie

Roger Fink

You can try this:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#nosquint
Note that if you use prefbar, Increase Font and Decrease Font will pick up
your nosquint settings.


Nosquint is available at addons,  as far as I can tell all of the modified 
addons
mentioned are simply addons  that have been modified to work with SeaMonkey

NoSquint :: Add-ons for Firefox
NoSquint allows you to adjust the text-only and full-page (both text and images) 
zoom levels as well as color settings both globally (for all sites) and per site. 

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/2592

Like those built-in to Firefox this appears to apply on a per site basis only 
during
the current session   You will have to check that out yourself, I've never used 
it.

In the reply to Paul B. Gallagher,Stanimir wants to be able to switch 
between
text-only and full-page modes per site.  Can't tell from the description of 
Nosquint
if that is what it is describing or not. 
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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread Ralph Fox
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 22:29:00 +0300, in message 
pp2dndqq0k5jcyrwnz2dnuvz_v6dn...@mozilla.org 
Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net wrote:

 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) 
 Gecko/20100317 SeaMonkey/2.0.4 (Spidey; Lightning 1.0b1; Mnenhy 0.8.0pre15)

 Is there a way (extension?) to allow one to zoom just text without 
 bothering the default full zoom?  It is all right if the solution 
 provides full zoom while the default is text zoom.  I just want to 
 have text zoom and full zoom separately without the need to 
 constantly change the application wide setting.

K-Meleon (a Gecko-based browser) has both modes of zoom
available at the same time.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/



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Re: Navigation toolbar

2010-04-03 Thread stan

I have tried that and it does not work.
The URL remains in drop down menu.


»Q« wrote:

Innews:-rcdnbqe8b-dh-bwnz2dnuvz_hydn...@mozilla.org,
stanedic...@dslextreme.com  wrote:


How do you delete URLs from the Navigation Toolbar drop down menu?


Delete the URL from your history (and from your bookmarks, if
necessary).



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Navigation toolbar URL

2010-04-03 Thread stan

How do you remove the URL from the Navigation-Toolbar-Drop-Down-Menu.
Clearing the History nor Bookmark will work.
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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread Roger Fink
David McRitchie wrote:
 Roger Fink
 You can try this:
 http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#nosquint
 Note that if you use prefbar, Increase Font and Decrease Font will
 pick up your nosquint settings.

 Nosquint is available at addons,  as far as I can tell all of the
 modified addons mentioned are simply addons  that have been modified
 to work with SeaMonkey

 NoSquint :: Add-ons for Firefox
 NoSquint allows you to adjust the text-only and full-page (both text
 and images) zoom levels as well as color settings both globally (for
 all sites) and per site. 
 https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/2592

 Like those built-in to Firefox this appears to apply on a per site
 basis only during the current session   You will have to check that
 out yourself, I've never used it.

 In the reply to Paul B. Gallagher,Stanimir wants to be able to
 switch between text-only and full-page modes per site.  Can't tell
 from the description of Nosquint if that is what it is describing
 or not.

Did you try to search for nosquint, or no squint, at addons? I got nothing
under Seamonkey, only Firefox. The nosquint at the xsidebar has been tweaked
to install in Seamonkey, as far as I can figure out. Maybe it's a search
problem but I don't think so.


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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread David McRitchie
Roger Fink 

Did you try to search for nosquint, or no squint, at addons? I got nothing
under Seamonkey, only Firefox. The nosquint at the xsidebar has been tweaked
to install in Seamonkey, as far as I can figure out. Maybe it's a search
problem but I don't think so.


If I was unsure if  it was nosquint  or  no squint,  then I would use
no.squint  or  no-squint  when searching at Google.  You don't have that
luxary when using the Addons  provided search.

Okay,  I normally do not use the  Addons provided search,  though I do have a
bookmarklet  addons:s for that as well.   The one I used for  nosquint was
addons:  which is a Google search at addons.

http://www.google.com/search?num=100q=site%3Aaddons.mozilla.org+inurl%3Aen-US%2Ffirefox%2Faddon+-inurl:collection+%S

The addons:s  search is for Firefox,  I find it really only much good if you 
know the
name of the addon,  so it could have been used.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=%sstatus=4show=50

You can find 95% of my bookmarklets  in the k.html  file 
   http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/lessons/intro/k.html

linked from
  http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/kws.htm

I will be redoing the k.html  file at least once this month in time for a
short presentation at Trenton Computer Festival.

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Re: Text zoom and full zoom selectively

2010-04-03 Thread Roger Fink
David McRitchie wrote:
 Roger Fink
 Did you try to search for nosquint, or no squint, at addons? I got
 nothing under Seamonkey, only Firefox. The nosquint at the xsidebar
 has been tweaked to install in Seamonkey, as far as I can figure
 out. Maybe it's a search problem but I don't think so.

 If I was unsure if  it was nosquint  or  no squint,  then I would use
 no.squint  or  no-squint  when searching at Google.  You don't have
 that
 luxary when using the Addons  provided search.

 Okay,  I normally do not use the  Addons provided search,  though I
 do have a bookmarklet  addons:s for that as well.   The one I used
 for  nosquint was addons:  which is a Google search at addons.


http://www.google.com/search?num=100q=site%3Aaddons.mozilla.org+inurl%3Aen-US%2Ffirefox%2Faddon+-inurl:collection+%S

 The addons:s  search is for Firefox,  I find it really only much
 good if you know the name of the addon,  so it could have been used.

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=%sstatus=4show=50

 You can find 95% of my bookmarklets  in the k.html  file
 http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/lessons/intro/k.html
 linked from
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/kws.htm

 I will be redoing the k.html  file at least once this month in time
 for a
 short presentation at Trenton Computer Festival.

Let's deal with substance, not geeky minutia, OK?  There is no Seamonkey
nosquint at addons, at least I haven't found it and you haven't found it.
It's OK to be dismissive as you were in your initial reply, but the way that
works is that first you need to know what you are talking about.



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Re: Navigation toolbar

2010-04-03 Thread Lee
On 4/3/10, stan edic...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 I have tried that and it does not work.
 The URL remains in drop down menu.

How about Edit / Preferences /  Browser / History / Clear Location Bar


 »Q« wrote:
 Innews:-rcdnbqe8b-dh-bwnz2dnuvz_hydn...@mozilla.org,
 stanedic...@dslextreme.com  wrote:

 How do you delete URLs from the Navigation Toolbar drop down menu?

 Delete the URL from your history (and from your bookmarks, if
 necessary).


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