[2.1b3] Cannot connect to IRC
Hello! Cannot connect to any chat using ChatZilla. Getting error message: ReferenceError: MSG_NETWORK_OPENED is not defined @ chrome://chatzilla/content/static.js 4183 Kind regards Peter ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: It seems going to HTML source more than once just trashes my heading etc.
KRUB wrote: Well, thanks Tony but the lines are blank, not continuations of anything. It doesn't seem to happen in the body. But this is a minor hindrance compared to the editor going wacko on me. I don't use it for e-mails, I am continually editing a WEB site and it is not an option. The blank lines only affect our personal sense of coding aesthetics. I have seen the same thing so I keep my own lines trimmed and use SeaMonkey Composer and that keeps the problem minimal. My guess is that there is a residual 'formatted' embedded somewhere in the code. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: It seems going to HTML source more than once just trashes my heading etc.
On 12/04/11 13:05, Rick Merrill wrote: KRUB wrote: Well, thanks Tony but the lines are blank, not continuations of anything. It doesn't seem to happen in the body. But this is a minor hindrance compared to the editor going wacko on me. I don't use it for e-mails, I am continually editing a WEB site and it is not an option. The blank lines only affect our personal sense of coding aesthetics. I have seen the same thing so I keep my own lines trimmed and use SeaMonkey Composer and that keeps the problem minimal. As I said, a truly *empty* line (with not even a space in it) marks the end of the headers, so it affects more than just aesthetics. OTOH, a blank *nonempty* line in the headers (i.e. a line consisting of *at least one* space or tab) *is* technically a continuation line -- it adds one space to the previous line, which normally makes no difference. My guess is that there is a residual 'formatted' embedded somewhere in the code. And to make sure there is no misunderstanding, by headers I mean email or newsgroup headers: here are those of the message to which I'm replying here, and the next line is empty: (I'm using Paste as Quotation to avoid additional line breaks) (Notice the continuation line starting with one space after the Subject: line, and also notice the absence of embedded empty lines.) Path: Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.mozilla.org!news.mozilla.org.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 06:05:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:05:42 -0400 From: Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com Organization: batco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.18) Gecko/20110320 SeaMonkey/2.0.13 Firefox/3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: Re: It seems going to HTML source more than once just trashes my heading etc. References: 2610de4e-b3ba-448e-8eb0-6af15684c...@f30g2000yqa.googlegroups.com yd2dndxzpdrofz_qnz2dnuvz_sgdn...@mozilla.org 58ed1e6b-fd0b-4b59-86a2-810056974...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: 58ed1e6b-fd0b-4b59-86a2-810056974...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: ulodnwro262vrznqnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org Lines: 13 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.63.58.8 X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-Rr8ul4sZrbio1RKFIIXPvxhLvR5qClhHisd4pfZMycxTs0JVJRb7ueGSSRen6ofRvxSWhu3jbu8ugLL!uM/9Pnp0g4EhFUxmw3uxmpgkV6zpJ0yHDtNFVX6Fk7MI6TMOQV0VWUHtaBInLXXAvTBzjEKou/X3!SsvV3Yut X-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org X-DMCA-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2160 X-Original-Bytes: 2099 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com mozilla.support.seamonkey:59767 Best regards, Tony. -- Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the drug store, but that's just peanuts to space. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support for large mail boxes
Mike wrote: I use Seamonkey (2.0.13) to check several mail boxes. I've used this software since before Moz Suite supported tabbed browsing. My point is, I have a lot of email. And I like SM but it's crawling. I've compacted all the folders, but changing from one account or folder or email to another takes 5 to 10 seconds sometimes, rarely even more. Frequent pauses in composing emails happens as well. A couple POP accounts have about 2000 messages, another has 7K, and my main POP account has about 14k. I delete junk and unimportant messages such as list email, so what is left is mail I wish to have for search or archive. Am I seeing expected behavior for the size of mailboxes I have? If not what can I tune? If not, how can I archive mail older than a certain date in a manner that I can quickly/easily get to it for search? TIA! Mike, I have about a dozen additional folders on my Mail account into which I drag-and-drop my mail, e.g. 2011_Family, 2011_Jokes, 2011_Linux, etc. Then, on New Years Day (or there-abouts), I move all these folders onto my Local Folders account, and give myself a new set of folders on the mail account. Using Local Folders means all my mail is with-in easy reach. HTH Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support for large mail boxes
On 12/04/11 14:44, Daniel wrote: Mike wrote: I use Seamonkey (2.0.13) to check several mail boxes. I've used this software since before Moz Suite supported tabbed browsing. My point is, I have a lot of email. And I like SM but it's crawling. I've compacted all the folders, but changing from one account or folder or email to another takes 5 to 10 seconds sometimes, rarely even more. Frequent pauses in composing emails happens as well. A couple POP accounts have about 2000 messages, another has 7K, and my main POP account has about 14k. I delete junk and unimportant messages such as list email, so what is left is mail I wish to have for search or archive. Am I seeing expected behavior for the size of mailboxes I have? If not what can I tune? If not, how can I archive mail older than a certain date in a manner that I can quickly/easily get to it for search? TIA! Mike, I have about a dozen additional folders on my Mail account into which I drag-and-drop my mail, e.g. 2011_Family, 2011_Jokes, 2011_Linux, etc. Then, on New Years Day (or there-abouts), I move all these folders onto my Local Folders account, and give myself a new set of folders on the mail account. Using Local Folders means all my mail is with-in easy reach. HTH Daniel ...and I use the Global Inbox (Inbox on Local Folders) but I don't keep mail there: I have filters to sort repeat mail to separate folders (e.g. anything from bugzilla-dae...@mozilla.org goes to a Mozilla bugmail folder); when it's harder to automate I move them about manually, and of course there's the Junk folder for spam. The result is that at the end of the day my Inbox folder is empty. Best regards, Tony. -- Proposed Additions to the PDP-11 Instruction Set: PI Punch Invalid POPIPunch Operator Immediately PVLCPunch Variable Length Card RASCRead And Shred Card RPM Read Programmers Mind RSSCreduce speed, step carefully (for improved accuracy) RTABRewind tape and break RWDSK rewind disk RWOCRead Writing On Card SCRBL scribble to disk - faster than a write SLC Search for Lost Chord SPSWScramble Program Status Word SRSDSeek Record and Scar Disk STROM Store in Read Only Memory TDB Transfer and Drop Bit WBT Water Binary Tree ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support for large mail boxes
On 4/11/11 9:56 PM, Mike wrote: I use Seamonkey (2.0.13) to check several mail boxes. I've used this software since before Moz Suite supported tabbed browsing. My point is, I have a lot of email. And I like SM but it's crawling. I've compacted all the folders, but changing from one account or folder or email to another takes 5 to 10 seconds sometimes, rarely even more. Frequent pauses in composing emails happens as well. A couple POP accounts have about 2000 messages, another has 7K, and my main POP account has about 14k. I delete junk and unimportant messages such as list email, so what is left is mail I wish to have for search or archive. Am I seeing expected behavior for the size of mailboxes I have? If not what can I tune? If not, how can I archive mail older than a certain date in a manner that I can quickly/easily get to it for search? TIA! Do you use filters? If so, this is possibly a symptom of bug #622484. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622484. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: southwest.com
On 4/11/11 7:54 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: Antone notice http://www.southwest.com does not work correctly with the latest version of Seamonkey 2.0.13 It works fine with internet explorer. None of the pull down menus work. Anyone have a workaround. Thanks Bernie It works with SeaMonkey 2.0.13 if I spoof IE7 using Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) It does NOT work with SeaMonkey 2.0.13 if I spoof Firefox 3.6.16 using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Thus, the site is broken for Gecko browsers, not just for SeaMonkey. You shoyuld somehow contact Southwest Airlines and let them know that their Web site is broken for the many users (over 50%) that do not use IE. Try contacting them through http://www.southwest.com/contact-us/contact-us.html. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support for large mail boxes
On 12/04/11 17:39, Mike wrote: Tony Mechelynck wrote: Mike, I have about a dozen additional folders on my Mail account into which I drag-and-drop my mail, e.g. 2011_Family, 2011_Jokes, 2011_Linux, etc. Then, on New Years Day (or there-abouts), I move all these folders onto my Local Folders account, and give myself a new set of folders on the mail account. Using Local Folders means all my mail is with-in easy reach. At the risk of being a little transparent: http://www.phivegills.com/seamonkey.png I do use the global inbox feature, and then mainly filter email based on account into sub folders of the Inbox. I do this to avoid vertical scrolling in the left folder view pane. Am I doing it wrong? Probably not; but I see two Inbox folders in your screenshot. Surely they are not both the Global Inbox? Also, I don't see any Local Folders account? Best regards, Tony. -- You will lose your present job and have to become a door to door mayonnaise salesman. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any plans to implement it in the future? Please? :) Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it fully operational? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2138153 I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about this, thank you. Best Regards Viliam Kubis -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey outages
After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Thanks for your help! -George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: southwest.com
David E. Ross wrote: On 4/11/11 7:54 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: Antone notice http://www.southwest.com does not work correctly with the latest version of Seamonkey 2.0.13 It works fine with internet explorer. None of the pull down menus work. Anyone have a workaround. Thanks Bernie It works with SeaMonkey 2.0.13 if I spoof IE7 using Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) It does NOT work with SeaMonkey 2.0.13 if I spoof Firefox 3.6.16 using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Thus, the site is broken for Gecko browsers, not just for SeaMonkey. You shoyuld somehow contact Southwest Airlines and let them know that their Web site is broken for the many users (over 50%) that do not use IE. Try contacting them through http://www.southwest.com/contact-us/contact-us.html. They must be other than simply checking for Firefox in the UA, the site works correctly for me in FF 3.6.16. Broken in SM 2.0.13, even spoofing UA. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
George Carden wrote: This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... I happened to have Opera open when I read your post. Here's what that speed test site told me: quote In order to use speed.io you need Internet Explorer, Firefox or Safari If you want to test your internet speed with Opera, we recommend you to use the AJAX based speedtest at Speedmeter.de You will be redirected automatically in 5 seconds . . . /quote Notice SeaMonkey is not listed. :-/ But with my Firefox-spoofing UA string it would run. It reported 7984 Kbps down, 884 Kbps up. Then I ran it with Firefox, and got 12922/1057 on my 13Mbps cable line. I have no Internet Explorer, nor Windows. So SeaMonkey reports slower than Firefox. but far from the difference you are reporting. What speed are you actually paying for? -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
If it helps as a poit of reference, with the following config I get: Download 4378 KBits Upload 2811 KBits Connections 929 per min Ping 34ms SeaMonkey version 2.0.13 * Copyright © 1998-2011 by contributors to the Mozilla Project. * Read the licensing information for this product. * See the build configuration used for this version. * Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.18) Gecko/20110320 not Firefox/3.6 SeaMonkey/2.0.5, Firefox/3.0 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: George Carden wrote: This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... I happened to have Opera open when I read your post. Here's what that speed test site told me: quote In order to use speed.io you need Internet Explorer, Firefox or Safari If you want to test your internet speed with Opera, we recommend you to use the AJAX based speedtest at Speedmeter.de You will be redirected automatically in 5 seconds . . . /quote Notice SeaMonkey is not listed. :-/ But with my Firefox-spoofing UA string it would run. It reported 7984 Kbps down, 884 Kbps up. Then I ran it with Firefox, and got 12922/1057 on my 13Mbps cable line. I have no Internet Explorer, nor Windows. So SeaMonkey reports slower than Firefox. but far from the difference you are reporting. What speed are you actually paying for? -- Thanks! 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com SE-GA Tailgate - April 9th, 2011 Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
Viliam Kubis wrote: ... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any plans to implement it in the future? Please? :) Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it fully operational? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2138153 I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about this, thank you. Best Regards Viliam Kubis I certainly hope not. WLS -- openSUSE 11.3(x86_64) - Gnome2.30 - SeaMonkey 2.1b3 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
Of course as an option, not fixed for everybody. You could choose whether to open the mail client in the traditional way (new window) or in new tab. VK On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:52:48 +0200, WLS wls15...@yahooremove.com wrote: Viliam Kubis wrote: ... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any plans to implement it in the future? Please? :) Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it fully operational? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2138153 I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about this, thank you. Best Regards Viliam Kubis I certainly hope not. WLS -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
Viliam Kubis wrote: Of course as an option, not fixed for everybody. You could choose whether to open the mail client in the traditional way (new window) or in new tab. This look inconsistent. Mail is not another web page, it's completely different. Opera is wrong - he mixed two different things: an object and a collection of objects ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Thanks for your help! Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.6.16 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Results from http://www.speed.io (Copied on 2011-04-13 00:15:18) Download: 16773 Kbit/s Upload : 3782 kbit/s Connects : 2724 conn/min Ping: 34 ms Now removing the NOT Firefox/3.6.16: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Results from http://www.speed.io (Copied on 2011-04-13 00:22:34) Download: 18516 Kbit/s Upload : 3895 kbit/s Connects : 2269 conn/min Ping: 33 ms So Seamonkey with or without spoofing FireFox gives the same results. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
Ray_Net wrote: George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Thanks for your help! Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.6.16 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Results from http://www.speed.io (Copied on 2011-04-13 00:15:18) Download: 16773 Kbit/s Upload : 3782 kbit/s Connects : 2724 conn/min Ping: 34 ms Now removing the NOT Firefox/3.6.16: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Results from http://www.speed.io (Copied on 2011-04-13 00:22:34) Download: 18516 Kbit/s Upload : 3895 kbit/s Connects : 2269 conn/min Ping: 33 ms So Seamonkey with or without spoofing FireFox gives the same results. I had no problems running this with SM, either -- no prompts, no complaints, no nothing. Just ran. Download: 6834 Kbit/s Upload: 8924 kbit/s Connects: 1210 conn/min Ping: 107 ms Second pass, two minutes later: Download: 23189 Kbit/s Upload: 9062 kbit/s Connects: 800 conn/min Ping: 150 ms Third pass, two minutes later: Download: 19131 Kbit/s Upload: 9062 kbit/s Connects: 706 conn/min Ping: 186 ms For me, it looks like there's a lot of minute-to-minute fluctuation, at least in the downlink. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
That's a matter of perspective. Sure the email client is somethig completely different than a web page in a browser tab, but I think I'm not the only one who would like to have their email client in a new tab right next to their open webpages. I, for my self, am used to tabbed browsing in such an extent that when I receive a new email in seamonkey I go: - ok, now, where's that webpage I want to copy something from? Oh, it's in a new window. Ok, click there. Now click on the webpage's tab. Information copied. - now where's that email I am writing? I see, different window again. Switch paste. That's just my personal habits, and of course it requires only a little of concentration to realise that the email is actually in a different window, but when you try to do things fast and you do not have a lot of time, you rely on your personal habits, preferences and experiences to perform specific actions to complete your task. So many times that I work in seamonkey and have 15 tabs open, I spend a couple of seconds looking at them and searching for that email tab before realising aha, it's a different window. I would not be asking to implement this out of the blue, but seeing that entering chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul in the address bar in a new tab actually opens the email client that partially *works*, but crashes upon many common actions, made me thinking that maybe it's not that difficult to implement from the development perspective / in terms of code. Maybe there are few places in the code of the messenger that rely on i'm sure i'm in a window, so call it's xxx method / perform action x. Of course I have never seen mozilla rendering engine and/or any part of the seamonkey code, so that's why I would like to hear some pros and cons of the concept, in terms of code / development costs and not personal preferences whether this feature is practical or not. I realise that there are many more important goals in the seamonkey project than this one, but it's just a feature request that I think many people (including me) would find convenient. Thank you On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:12:47 +0200, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Viliam Kubis wrote: Of course as an option, not fixed for everybody. You could choose whether to open the mail client in the traditional way (new window) or in new tab. This look inconsistent. Mail is not another web page, it's completely different. Opera is wrong - he mixed two different things: an object and a collection of objects ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey outages
On 04/12/2011 12:58 PM, George Carden wrote: After years of no problems, suddenly, and totally at random, my SeaMonkey seems to just lose power...and occasionally totally loses it's web connection for some reason. This happened a few minutes ago, and I used the site http://www.speed.io/index_en.html to conduct a speed test on SeaMonkey and Internet Explorer, one right after another. Here are the results... - First, SeaMonkey: Download = 670 Kbit/s Upload = 543 Kbit/s Connections = 2209/minute Ping = 43 ms Overall quality equals to 768 Kbit/s - Immediately after, Internet Explorer: Download = 13292 Kbit/s Upload = 1053 Kbit/s Connections = 957/minute Ping = 29 ms Overall quality equals to 12000 Kbit/s - What could be causing these outages, and what can I do to fix them? Did you test SeaMonkey again immediately after IE? My tests are pretty consistant with the speedtest site I use: http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php SeaMonkey 2.1b3 (linux): Test Type: Application Speed Location: Download Speed: 2542 kbps Upload Speed: 417 kbps Speed Consistency: 99 % Round Trip Time:17 ms Max Delay: 7 ms Average Delay: 4 ms Bandwidth: 2560 kbps Max Route Speed:30840 kbps Route Concurrency: 1 Test Type: s / s Round Trip Time Consistency:77 % Opera: Test Type: Application Speed Location: Download Speed: 2541 kbps Upload Speed: 433 kbps Speed Consistency: 99 % Round Trip Time:17 ms Max Delay: 9 ms Average Delay: 4 ms Bandwidth: 2541 kbps Max Route Speed:30840 kbps Route Concurrency: 1 Test Type: s / s Round Trip Time Consistency:73 % Chromium: Test Type: Application Speed Location: Download Speed: 2542 kbps Upload Speed: 434 kbps Speed Consistency: 99 % Round Trip Time:16 ms Max Delay: 8 ms Average Delay: 4 ms Bandwidth: 2560 kbps Max Route Speed:32767 kbps Route Concurrency: 1 Test Type: s / s Round Trip Time Consistency:69 % Epiphany: Test Type: Application Speed Location: Download Speed: 2542 kbps Upload Speed: 419 kbps Speed Consistency: 99 % Round Trip Time:17 ms Max Delay: 7 ms Average Delay: 4 ms Bandwidth: 2560 kbps Max Route Speed:30840 kbps Route Concurrency: 1 Test Type: s / s Round Trip Time Consistency:77 % I'm on an ATT DSL 3MB/512KB, and have both IPv4 and IPv6 connectivity. I note that last as whenever speed issues comes up the first thing someone recommends is turning of IPv6. I have miredo - Teredo IPv6 tunneling through NATs running full time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: southwest.com
Lemuel Johnson wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 4/11/11 7:54 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: Antone notice http://www.southwest.com does not work correctly with the latest version of Seamonkey 2.0.13 It works fine with internet explorer. None of the pull down menus work. Anyone have a workaround. Thanks Bernie It works with SeaMonkey 2.0.13 if I spoof IE7 using Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) It does NOT work with SeaMonkey 2.0.13 if I spoof Firefox 3.6.16 using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Thus, the site is broken for Gecko browsers, not just for SeaMonkey. You shoyuld somehow contact Southwest Airlines and let them know that their Web site is broken for the many users (over 50%) that do not use IE. Try contacting them through http://www.southwest.com/contact-us/contact-us.html. They must be other than simply checking for Firefox in the UA, the site works correctly for me in FF 3.6.16. Broken in SM 2.0.13, even spoofing UA. Works fine for me in Seamonkey 2.0.13 with Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.18) Gecko/20110320 Lightning/1.0b2pre NOT Firefox/4/0b8pre SeaMonkey/2.0.13 - Build ID: 20110320141607--I registered and booked a flight and rented a car with no problem. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
I would *love* to see this feature added to SM. I've asked this question before myself, and I think I got an answer back that it was on the SM road map, but I can't recall for sure. Having Mail be able to open in a tab within the Browser window is *the* way to go, particularly on a laptop - saves a lot of screen real estate. And on a Mac with Spaces I could just open SM full screen in it's own virtual desktop space and have a better view. One window, many choices...yeah, Opera got that one right. Laptop users dream come true, IMO. -- - Rufus Viliam Kubis wrote: That's a matter of perspective. Sure the email client is somethig completely different than a web page in a browser tab, but I think I'm not the only one who would like to have their email client in a new tab right next to their open webpages. I, for my self, am used to tabbed browsing in such an extent that when I receive a new email in seamonkey I go: - ok, now, where's that webpage I want to copy something from? Oh, it's in a new window. Ok, click there. Now click on the webpage's tab. Information copied. - now where's that email I am writing? I see, different window again. Switch paste. That's just my personal habits, and of course it requires only a little of concentration to realise that the email is actually in a different window, but when you try to do things fast and you do not have a lot of time, you rely on your personal habits, preferences and experiences to perform specific actions to complete your task. So many times that I work in seamonkey and have 15 tabs open, I spend a couple of seconds looking at them and searching for that email tab before realising aha, it's a different window. I would not be asking to implement this out of the blue, but seeing that entering chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul in the address bar in a new tab actually opens the email client that partially *works*, but crashes upon many common actions, made me thinking that maybe it's not that difficult to implement from the development perspective / in terms of code. Maybe there are few places in the code of the messenger that rely on i'm sure i'm in a window, so call it's xxx method / perform action x. Of course I have never seen mozilla rendering engine and/or any part of the seamonkey code, so that's why I would like to hear some pros and cons of the concept, in terms of code / development costs and not personal preferences whether this feature is practical or not. I realise that there are many more important goals in the seamonkey project than this one, but it's just a feature request that I think many people (including me) would find convenient. Thank you On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:12:47 +0200, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Viliam Kubis wrote: Of course as an option, not fixed for everybody. You could choose whether to open the mail client in the traditional way (new window) or in new tab. This look inconsistent. Mail is not another web page, it's completely different. Opera is wrong - he mixed two different things: an object and a collection of objects ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1b3 User Interface Changes
On 04/09/2011 08:09 AM, Errol Smith wrote: NoOp wrote: Ok, who's bright idea was this? Right clicking a link in 2.1b2 brings up: o Open Link in a New Window o Open Link in a New Tab 2.1b3 brings up: o Open Link in a New Tab o Open Link in a New Window Who's idea was this? I must have opened about 10 new windows (instead of tabs) this morning before figuring out the change. Still having trouble adjusting... muscle memory is set I have to pause after right-clicking any link. I strongly suggest you learn how to middle-click. It's much faster ... Yeah that works, but old habits die hard :-) Plus my middle-click on my old mouse is like crunching a cockroach... push hard - crunch. I've finally retrained MM to the new Open Link in a New Tab. Thanks for reminding me about the middle-click, I'd forgotten all about it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1b3 User Interface Changes
On 04/09/2011 02:34 PM, Roger Fink wrote: NoOp wrote: Ok, who's bright idea was this? Right clicking a link in 2.1b2 brings up: o Open Link in a New Window o Open Link in a New Tab 2.1b3 brings up: o Open Link in a New Tab o Open Link in a New Window Who's idea was this? I must have opened about 10 new windows (instead of tabs) this morning before figuring out the change. Still having trouble adjusting... muscle memory is set I have to pause after right-clicking any link. I'm glad they finally listened to me and made that change but you can reorder the menu items any way you like and moreover hide the many items I assume you don't use by installing the Menu Editor extension. The version I use for Seamonkey 2.0.13 is Menu Editor 1.2.3.3. Not sure if that has been upgraded, or whether I had to modify install.rdf to get that version to work, or if any version out there is compatible with 2.1, but in my installation it does work beautifully. You're the culprit eh? Logically it does make more sense; it just took me by surprise took awhile to retrain. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1b3 User Interface Changes
On 04/09/2011 03:58 PM, Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: ... I'm glad they finally listened to me and made that change but you can reorder the menu items any way you like and moreover hide the many items I assume you don't use by installing the Menu Editor extension. The version I use for Seamonkey 2.0.13 is Menu Editor 1.2.3.3. Not sure if that has been upgraded, or whether I had to modify install.rdf to get that version to work, or if any version out there is compatible with 2.1, but in my installation it does work beautifully. Available from here: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#menuedit I'd rather keep the menu items standard. Reason being is that I also assist many other SM users if I modify my setup too much I then forget that I did it after awhile. That leads to issues when supporting others. But thanks for the suggestion. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support for large mail boxes
On 04/11/2011 09:56 PM, Mike wrote: I use Seamonkey (2.0.13) to check several mail boxes. I've used this software since before Moz Suite supported tabbed browsing. My point is, I have a lot of email. And I like SM but it's crawling. I've compacted all the folders, but changing from one account or folder or email to another takes 5 to 10 seconds sometimes, rarely even more. Frequent pauses in composing emails happens as well. A couple POP accounts have about 2000 messages, another has 7K, and my main POP account has about 14k. I delete junk and unimportant messages such as list email, so what is left is mail I wish to have for search or archive. Am I seeing expected behavior for the size of mailboxes I have? If not what can I tune? If not, how can I archive mail older than a certain date in a manner that I can quickly/easily get to it for search? TIA! I have multiple pop accounts many of the folders (Inbox/Sent/folder) average between 2,000 and 5,000 emails per folder on all but two of the accounts. I also use filters to sort various messages to the appropriate folders. No issues like you are describing. I mirror the same .mozilla folder across multiple machines: linux, WinXP, Win2K, Win7, as well as multiple versions (2.0.13, 2.1b2, and 2.1b3). So, at least on my part, it doesn't seem to be OS related. Nothing particular about my hardware (ranges from 2.4Ghz/768Mb, 2.4Ghz/1Gb to 2.1Ghz/3Gb - the Win2k and WinXP's are running in Virtual Machines with minimal recommended memory set in some). Are the 14k in your main pop account in one folder? If so that might be part of the cause. You can use the Archives (Message|Archive) feature to break out old messages put them in the Archives folder(s), and/or set up some filters to move certain messages to subfolders. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
Viliam Kubis wrote: ... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any plans to implement it in the future? Please? :) Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it fully operational? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2138153 I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about this, thank you. Best Regards Viliam Kubis No! No! No! No! It bad enough to deal with tabs in web Browser. We don't need such silliness in email. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
PhillipJones wrote: No! No! No! No! It bad enough to deal with tabs in web Browser. We don't need such silliness in email. Agreed. Bottom-posting on this list is nuisance enough ... -- Thanks! 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com SE-GA Tailgate - April 9th, 2011 Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
d...@kd4e.com wrote: PhillipJones wrote: No! No! No! No! It bad enough to deal with tabs in web Browser. We don't need such silliness in email. Agreed. Bottom-posting on this list is nuisance enough ... Agreed! -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
On 04/12/2011 08:49 PM, PhillipJones wrote: Viliam Kubis wrote: ... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any plans to implement it in the future? Please? :) Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it fully operational? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2138153 I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about this, thank you. Best Regards Viliam Kubis No! No! No! No! It bad enough to deal with tabs in web Browser. We don't need such silliness in email. Says the anti-tabs curmudgeon... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)
On 04/12/2011 12:52 PM, Viliam Kubis wrote: ... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any plans to implement it in the future? Please? :) Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it fully operational? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2138153 I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about this, thank you. Best Regards Viliam Kubis I like it. It also possibly resolves an issue with netbook screen issues in the New Improved (sarcasm) Ubuntu Unity desktop. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
