Re: SeaMonkey installation precedure
Roger Fink a écrit : Suggestion for future major releases of SeaMonkey, such as the upgrade from 2.0.14 to 2.1. I tried this upgrade a few days ago but wound up reverting back to 2.0.14 (note that despite using system restore to do this, I still had to manually reestablish some of my original settings, such as theme and home page). The reason I went back to 2.0.14 was because there just weren't enough installed extensions yet that were upgradable to 2.1. While I don't know the technical problems involved, I think it would be a lot more user-friendly to search out the existing installation before a new version is installed and present to the user the same list of existing installed extensions that are currently incompatible, and also predetermine whether upgrades for them exist. This would be followed by a box to proceed or cancel. This would allow the user to make a decision to install or not install, rather than have to install and revert (or regret). I had the same experience yesterday, and feel regretting not staying in 2.1 also due to the loss of extensions. I did not find an upgrade/downgrade guide from 2.0.14 to 2.1 and I have reinstalled 2.0.13 as I did not from 2.0.14 yesterday (it is again available today) is that a way to disable the version testing for the extensions ? or a way to change the max version number in the extensions ? this may be more and more annoying as we enter in a version race for example, I am still regretting the lack of media player connectivity that was ok in SM 1.x , still working in firefox 3.6 but not in FF 4, SM 2 and up, I am sure it could work but I can't make it.. -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wrapping Text Pages
Stanimir Stamenkov a écrit : Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:04:09 -0700, /David E. Ross/: When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping. Is there a way to get wrapping? An example is at http://rossde.com/test/Wrap_test.txt, which my service's Web server delivers as text/plain. Apparently, this is NOT a new problem. I see the same results with SM 2.0.14 and SM 2.1. I use (since SeaMonkey 1.*) the very handy Toggle Word Wrap extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/toggle-word-wrap/ excellent !! -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
A stupid underlined thread
Some times a see some thread being underlined ... but did not contain any un-readed post. Is it a problem with SM or the server news.mozilla.org owning mozilla.support.seamonkey ? This situation is ennoying. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
WLS a écrit : William DeCoster wrote: Please relay to the seamonkey people. Composer: click on a graphic it duplicates and jumps up to another location, (annoying). The graphic does delete ok, Never an issue before this release. Other annoying Features Pop Up anouncements and compress email folder announcements. Please, dump this stuff, I can't believe anyone would want it. The SeaMonkey people are to my knowledge not doing any development of Composer and IMHO think it should be removed from the suite. I hope this proposal to remove it could not be done without a vote and mine would be NO ! after all if you don't like it, do not look at it, but leave it alone ! -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A stupid underlined thread
Ray_Net wrote: Some times a see some thread being underlined ... but did not contain any un-readed post. Is it a problem with SM or the server news.mozilla.org owning mozilla.support.seamonkey ? This situation is ennoying. Hey, Ray, sound to me like you've now got the same problem I complained about here in the message Missing messages on about 30th May. Note I've removed the image who's address I posted. I didn't get any replies, so, if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1 Cache
W3BNR wrote: Where can I find an explanation of the new layout for the cached files? Yeah, why is it so COMPLICATED? If I missed something I only had to look in one location to find it. Now, there's this dizzying maze of directories to dig through. Like digging for pirate treasure or something!! -- Jaime A. Cruz President Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/13/11 5:55 PM, Stan wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: MCBastos schrieb: Interviewed by CNN on 29/05/2011 16:41, Robert Kaiser told the world: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: For those few sites too stupid to sniff for Gecko, why not just lie to them and spoof FF? That's what 2.1 does. And it's not beta any more, it's RC, which means it's as good as release, with just minor adjustments to be made still. I sure hope that one of those adjustments is in the installer. Yes, the installer glitches are why it hasn't shipped as final yet. We fixed the default theme thing for the first build of RC2 but didn't even release that one as we found yet another problem with localizations and optional extensions that we need to do a second build for, and then RC2 should be there and hopefully will be converted to the actual final release a few days later. Robert Kaiser Robert, I think I hear you saying that when I get messages such as SM 2.1 not supported that this is a problem to be fixed in a nxt release of SM. So, I should just be patient. Is that correct? I currently have a problem with FxIF- View EDXIF data, Image Zoom, and StumbleUpon. Thanks Stan Stan IF the problem is that the Web server is sniffing for Firefox instead of Gecko, SeaMonkey 2.1 solves the problem. It automatically presents a user agent (UA) string that contains Firefox. This feature can be turned off. On the menu bar, select [Edit Preferences Advanced HTTP Networking] and uncheck the checkbox for Advertise Firefox compatibility. s/solves/gets around (I think that's how an amendment/substitution is suggested!!) -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
cyberzen wrote: WLS a écrit : William DeCoster wrote: Please relay to the seamonkey people. Composer: click on a graphic it duplicates and jumps up to another location, (annoying). The graphic does delete ok, Never an issue before this release. Other annoying Features Pop Up anouncements and compress email folder announcements. Please, dump this stuff, I can't believe anyone would want it. The SeaMonkey people are to my knowledge not doing any development of Composer and IMHO think it should be removed from the suite. I hope this proposal to remove it could not be done without a vote and mine would be NO ! after all if you don't like it, do not look at it, but leave it alone ! It is not that I don't like it. If it was a GOOD WYSIWYG web editor I might even use it. However the development of the web has moved on to HTML, CSS and JavaScript, which Composer as it stands today does not handle properly in the current version. All I see it capable of is HTML. Can you create separate CSS stylesheets with it? All I see is inline styling for each element when I try and help someone who complains their page doesn't look right in a certain browser, but looks fine in another with pages designed with Composer. Does it handle HTML5? How do I change the default HTML 4.01 Transitional DOCTYPE it always inserts if I want to create a XHTML Strict site? Keep it for email, hide the icon, disable Ctrl+4 and the Window menu item until such time it is compatible with the changes in web design. I'll stick with hand coding in a text editor or use Aptana Studio. http://www.aptana.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
On 14.06.2011 07:56, WLS wrote: --- Original Message --- cyberzen wrote: WLS a écrit : William DeCoster wrote: Please relay to the seamonkey people. Composer: click on a graphic it duplicates and jumps up to another location, (annoying). The graphic does delete ok, Never an issue before this release. Other annoying Features Pop Up anouncements and compress email folder announcements. Please, dump this stuff, I can't believe anyone would want it. The SeaMonkey people are to my knowledge not doing any development of Composer and IMHO think it should be removed from the suite. I hope this proposal to remove it could not be done without a vote and mine would be NO ! after all if you don't like it, do not look at it, but leave it alone ! It is not that I don't like it. If it was a GOOD WYSIWYG web editor I might even use it. However the development of the web has moved on to HTML, CSS and JavaScript, which Composer as it stands today does not handle properly in the current version. All I see it capable of is HTML. Can you create separate CSS stylesheets with it? All I see is inline styling for each element when I try and help someone who complains their page doesn't look right in a certain browser, but looks fine in another with pages designed with Composer. Does it handle HTML5? How do I change the default HTML 4.01 Transitional DOCTYPE it always inserts if I want to create a XHTML Strict site? Keep it for email, hide the icon, disable Ctrl+4 and the Window menu item until such time it is compatible with the changes in web design. I'll stick with hand coding in a text editor or use Aptana Studio. http://www.aptana.com/ Composer, since it's very beginning was never intended to be the all-powerful editor for the most savvy, web-design commercial type users but rather a simple built-in editor for those users with simple personal web pages, etc. that only need to create, maintain and update on an every now and then basis. If you want a more powerful and easy to use editor then install Kompozer, http://kompozer.net/ which is based on NVU. NVU is the base foundation for the Netscape built-in editor and AFAIK is also the basis for SM's editor, not sure on that tho. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 13/06/2011 23:31, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj told the world: I don't bother memorizing most passwords (e-mail, websites and such) -- the unimportant ones I trust to Seamonkey, the middling-important ones I save in KeePass. But the ones I do make a point of committing to memory and not writing them down *anywhere* are: - Banking passwords; - The KeePass password (of course) - The PGP passphrases That's nice, congratulations! Out of curiosity, How old are you now? I'm in my forties, why? Well, the problem of keeping track, of proliferating id's and passwords feels different when you're forty than when you hit seventy+. Especially when you need to change them every X days, select strong passwords, (and have them available for use from several locations). -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
PhillipJones wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 12/06/2011 12:14, W3BNR told the world: So I'll be waiting for the updates to: Download Helper Prefbar Quote Colors Show IP Mail User Agent I wouldn't hold my breath for Display Mail User-Agent, it seems to have been abandoned -- version 1.6.6 had problems in Seamonkey for months but wasn't fixed. But I managed to update the maxversion in 1.6.5. and it seem to work OK in SM 2.1. (Now that 2.1 is final, I might have a look at 1.6.6 again, since it seemed to work in Thunderbird...) Quote Colors is in a similar situation, but again, it seems to work with just a change in the maxversion. If Philip Chee is interested, I can mail him my hacked versions of those and a couple other extensions that seem to be working fine in SM 2.1 I'll vote for QuoteColors. Without QuoteColors I simply could not read emails and Newsgroups. I have QuoteCollapse which does both colors and collapses long quoted sections so I can read the most recent (current) comments. And expand the quotes if needed, of course. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A stupid underlined thread
Daniel wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Some times a see some thread being underlined ... but did not contain any un-readed post. Is it a problem with SM or the server news.mozilla.org owning mozilla.support.seamonkey ? This situation is ennoying. Hey, Ray, sound to me like you've now got the same problem I complained about here in the message Missing messages on about 30th May. Note I've removed the image who's address I posted. I didn't get any replies, so, if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath. I think that there is no missing messages. New posts are present as unreaded. But some thread by the underline says: Hé, see inside my thread, there is some message unreaded. But there is no such messages in the thread and i beleive that there should be no such messages. Only the undelined status is wrong. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 6/12/2011 8:42 AM, Ant wrote: If you really want to exchange just bookmarks but not lose any information, either use the JSON export/import (Save/Restore), or Sync. I really don't want to use Sync. Oy, export/import sounds more work. Grr. If your concern is privacy for Sync, you *can* use your own server. (even a local network server if that suited your fancy). Doing something which fails if the network fails, if the server fails, or if some client or network has a bug which scrambles the data on the server seems to be a problem for some people. There is value to controlling all of the risk factors yourself. A bit more work to setup, but far far less work than export/import frequently or copying files around. I'm at least going to look into that myself, but would probably run my own server, depending on how well I can back up the data on yours. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ant schrieb: I really don't want to use Sync. For what reason? Note that all data sent to a server by Sync is not readable by the server or its operators as it's encrypted on the client side and the private key is never sent to the server. Of course, as we are an open organization, you can set up your own server as well, of course, Mozilla even provides a version for you to install. Security is not a major issue, at least for most people, but depending on the network and someone else' servers for backup (and rollback if needed) might be. If I understand the limitations on version compatibility between machines, that might be an issue as well. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
David E. Ross wrote:
On 6/12/11 7:00 PM, W3BNR wrote:
On 6/12/2011 7:58 PM NoOp submitted the following:
On 06/12/2011 03:53 PM, W3BNR wrote:
On 6/12/2011 4:01 PM David E. Ross submitted the following:
On 6/12/11 12:39 PM, JD wrote:
NoOp wrote:
...
Sorry, forgot to mention that I had modified install.rdf:
!-- SeaMonkey --
em:targetApplication
Description
em:id{92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}/em:id
em:minVersion2.0/em:minVersion
em:maxVersion2.1/em:maxVersion
/Description
/em:targetApplication
Where is the file located?
In your profile.
Find the extensions directory. Do a search in that directory for all
instances of install.rdf. Edit all of them to set em:maxVersion to 2.1.
(I actually set it to 2.*)
Be careful. Some extensions have different em:maxVersion values for
different applications. If there is more than one em:maxVersion, be
sure to change it for SeaMonkey.
But, if you removed the add-on via Tools/add-on manager the directory that
housed that extension will be empty.
You can redownload the xpi here without
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/addons/67148/
An xpi is a zip archive, so you could unzip, modify the install.rdf,
rezip and install that way if you wanted to. Or just try installing from
the xpi when it fails it may expand into the proper folder then
modify the install.rdf.
Ah, yes - I didn't realize that a re-install, even though it failed, would leave
the load intact. Downloaded the .xpi, went to the directory, changed the .rdf
file and - viola - a restart of SM showed the add-on now works.
(This with the Show IP add-on) Others will be tried tomorrow. Thanks.
I just tried an experiment. I opened WinZip. I dragged a PrefBar .xpi
file into the empty WinZip window. Seeing install.rdf, I viewed it with
Wordpad. I was able to edit install.rdf and save the result back into
the .xpi file. All this worked without actually extracting install.rdf
and then rezipping it after editing.
I think you you mean manually extracting... here, extracting and update still
need to be done to make the checksums correct.
I don't know if other zip applications will work this way, and I don't
know if any of this can be done on non-Windows platforms.
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taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if
we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010
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Re: [Linux Mint 11 / Ubuntu 11.04 / SM 2.1] Frequent Black Screens
Rob Lindauer wrote: Has anyone else seen the following? I've had this problem from the moment I installed SM2.1... I am getting frequent back screens in SM 2.1. When I'm doing something (e.g., attempting to drag a map in Google Maps, opening a new webpage), my screen will go black briefly (perhaps a half second or a second). I did not have this behavior on SM 2.0.14. I created entirely new user profiles for SM 2.1 - am not reusing the profiles I had use under 2.0.14. I've checked my dpkg.og to see if there might have been Linux maintenance installed in the same timeframe as my SM 2.1 install, but there was no Linux installation within 24 hrs of the SM 2.1 installation. Any ideas? Yes. Are you running GNOME or the new Unity (IIRC) window manager on Ubuntu? I have a vast distrust of all those WM which require accelerated video cards, since firmware sometimes gets updates in the middle of a production run and may behave differently. Same question for MINT, does it by chance use GNOME3? I have Ubuntu running on a VM, using GNOME, unfortunately MINT and SuSE are downloaded and in the someday queue, so I can't really test carefully. I didn't see any issues with SM in Ubuntu under GNOME, so that's a half of a data point. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1 Disk Cache
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 13/06/2011 21:49, User told the world: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 13/06/2011 20:45, Ed told the world: Where can I find an explanation of the new layout for the cached files? Better yet, is there any extension which can do for the new cache system what Cache Viewer did for the old one? about:cache I knew about that. It's not the same: the old extension allowed you to actually SEE the images cached. For that matter, I used to just check the cache for recent, large files in order to get copies of online movies which denied a save option. I tried this today... and I was surprised to see that the about:cache not only didn't list it (well, it happens...) but that it listed FAR TOO FEW recent files to account for my Web activity. OTOH, the cache (which I left at the new let Seamonkey manage the cache size setting to see how it goes) is far larger than the 50 Mb I used in 2.0.x. So I'm still trying to figure out how this new cache works. That does it for me! Gone back to 2.0.14 -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA He ended the job as he began it; fired with enthusiasm. --Don O'Shaughnessy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What is Seamonkey 2.4a and why the version jump?
Bill Davidsen wrote: I grabbed SM for a new machine (from the daily directory) and it calls itself 2.4a (I can look up the version if it matters). What is that, and when will whatever makes it so FAST get to production versions? Sorry, I found a reply in my mailbox after I posted this. Ignore. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What is Seamonkey 2.4a and why the version jump?
On 6/14/2011 10:31 AM Bill Davidsen submitted the following: Bill Davidsen wrote: I grabbed SM for a new machine (from the daily directory) and it calls itself 2.4a (I can look up the version if it matters). What is that, and when will whatever makes it so FAST get to production versions? Sorry, I found a reply in my mailbox after I posted this. Ignore. I can't ignore the question now that I've read it. So what is the answer? -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Public office is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Boies Penrose ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A stupid underlined thread
On 6/14/11 2:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Some times a see some thread being underlined ... but did not contain any un-readed post. Is it a problem with SM or the server news.mozilla.org owning mozilla.support.seamonkey ? This situation is ennoying. I'm seeing the same thing with Thunderbird 3.1.10. Also, an unread message sometimes gets marked as read as I open the newsgroup before it appears in the header pane. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What is Seamonkey 2.4a and why the version jump?
W3BNR wrote: On 6/14/2011 10:31 AM Bill Davidsen submitted the following: Bill Davidsen wrote: I grabbed SM for a new machine (from the daily directory) and it calls itself 2.4a (I can look up the version if it matters). What is that, and when will whatever makes it so FAST get to production versions? Sorry, I found a reply in my mailbox after I posted this. Ignore. I can't ignore the question now that I've read it. So what is the answer? Couldn't find a daily directory. It is the nightly build, SM 2.3a2 is the Aurora build and SM 2.2a1pre is the Beta build in the rapid release scheme of things. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1 Cache
Cruz, Jaime wrote: W3BNR wrote: Where can I find an explanation of the new layout for the cached files? Yeah, why is it so COMPLICATED? If I missed something I only had to look in one location to find it. Now, there's this dizzying maze of directories to dig through. Like digging for pirate treasure or something!! It is supposed to be faster to access. But to use a cache is to go back to something that happened in the past. Do we go back so often that a small speed increase is actually valuable, if even noticeable? Or was this a solution looking for a problem? Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: my sm
On 11-06-13 11:47 PM, km wrote: is stuck in safe mode. any hlp??? There are two possible causes. _SeaMonkey was not closed completely_ If you started SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, it will remain in Safe Mode until SeaMonkey is completely closed. The easiest way to make sure SeaMonkey is closed is to restart your computer. _Shortcut updated to open Safe Mode_ You may have updated the shortcut you use to start SeaMonkey to open it in Safe Mode and forgotten to change it back. 1. Right-click the icon you use to start SeaMonkey and choose Properties. 2. Click on the Shortcut tab. 3. Make sure the Target: box doesn't include -safe-mode at the end. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
On 11-06-13 8:35 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-06-13 2:55 PM, Rufus wrote: Dunno...I was hesitant about 2.0 (in fact, I think I waited until 2.0.something, but I only recall two basic complaints - and most of it was over the Forms Manager. I feel like I'm reading more for 2.1, and of wider varieties...and workarounds that have users altering code? Whassupwiddat?.. Most times, it's better to have actual data. SM2.0 was released on Oct 27, 2009. Here's a link to the archive of this newsgroup from that time. http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/month/2009-10?start=750sa=N From there, you can go through all the posts made in the first few days and what the volume of traffic was, and compare it to 2.1. Maybe it's because that archive starts with the Release Candidate Actually the archive starts from January 2006, when this newsgroup was created. See http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/about. At the top and bottom of the message list in the first link I gave you, there are Previous and Next links to take you to messages before and after. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wrapping Text Pages
David E. Ross wrote:
When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping. Is
there a way to get wrapping?
An example is athttp://rossde.com/test/Wrap_test.txt, which my
service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
Apparently, this is NOT a new problem. I see the same results with SM
2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work. In
userContent.css put:
pre {
white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}
No need for yet another extension.
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Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?
Will SM update to 2.1 automatically? IE in the background or without my knowledge? Now using: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Mike C ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour
Henk Fictorie wrote: MCBastos wrote: I'm having a weirder problem -- I can't see *any* passwords in Data Manager/Password Manager. The passwords tab is greyed out, even for the domains I *know* have saved passwords (such as my mail hosts). If I select Passwords only in the domain filter box, it shows *no* domains at all. If there's a show passwords button I should click, I have been unable to find it. This is exactly the same problem I'm experiencing. I cannot see the password tab. However the functionality of filling in passwords is still functioning, it's only the password/data manager which is not working. Henk Fictorie I did a bit more research. After installing the 'saved password editor' extension, I was able to access my passwords through 'Tools - Saved Passwords'. This showed the old ( 2.1) interface. In that interface I was also able to see passwords I've entered while running Seamonkey 2.1. Henk Fictorie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour
MCBastos wrote: I'm having a weirder problem -- I can't see *any* passwords in Data Manager/Password Manager. The passwords tab is greyed out, even for the domains I *know* have saved passwords (such as my mail hosts). If I select Passwords only in the domain filter box, it shows *no* domains at all. If there's a show passwords button I should click, I have been unable to find it. This is exactly the same problem I'm experiencing. I cannot see the password tab. However the functionality of filling in passwords is still functioning, it's only the password/data manager which is not working. Henk Fictorie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour
MCBastos wrote: I'm having a weirder problem -- I can't see *any* passwords in Data Manager/Password Manager. The passwords tab is greyed out, even for the domains I *know* have saved passwords (such as my mail hosts). If I select Passwords only in the domain filter box, it shows *no* domains at all. If there's a show passwords button I should click, I have been unable to find it. This is exactly the same problem I'm experiencing. I cannot see the password tab. However the functionality of filling in passwords is still functioning, it's only the password/data manager which is not working. Henk Fictorie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A stupid underlined thread
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/14/11 2:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Some times a see some thread being underlined ... but did not contain any un-readed post. Is it a problem with SM or the server news.mozilla.org owning mozilla.support.seamonkey ? This situation is ennoying. I'm seeing the same thing with Thunderbird 3.1.10. Also, an unread message sometimes gets marked as read as I open the newsgroup before it appears in the header pane. This is not the same read messages are not un-read messages because i read it the day before. Thread is underlined to tell me that there is at least one unread message, but all messages are readed before and no one is un bolt. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?
Mike C wrote: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically? I hope not ! Let me choice *when* i want to change. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1 Bookmark Group Changes...
Antman008 wrote: 1) Groups appear to be missing from the Bookmark tool. They have been replaced by a folder with a Open all in Tabs as the final link. Is there a way to convert the folder back into a true group of tabs so I can avoid the extra scrolling? No, Groupmarks are gone. Still you can open the contents of any bookmarks folder in tabs by either using the context menu, Ctrl+click, or middle click. 2) In SM 2.0.x, when I open a group of tabs, my current window would replace the current windows with the Group set. Preferences has a setting that asks you if you want SM to simply add new tabs or perform the replacement as 2.0.x did, and I have selected replacement, but SM 2.1 continues to add my Open all in Tabs groups as new tabs. I guess you mean the Link Behavior prefs. They only apply to links determined to be opened in new windows, via scripts, or from external applications. If there is a setting for bookmarks then I don't know it, sorry. The old browser.tabs.loadFolderAndReplace has been removed. For Firefox, there seem to be add-ons that provide that functionality, like Openintabs-erase, Replacetabs Extension, or Tab Mix Plus. I didn't try any of those but I would assume that at least the former two might be easy to adapt for SeaMonkey (by a knowledgeable add-on developer like Philip Chee). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What is Seamonkey 2.4a and why the version jump?
W3BNR wrote: On 6/14/2011 10:31 AM Bill Davidsen submitted the following: Bill Davidsen wrote: I grabbed SM for a new machine (from the daily directory) and it calls itself 2.4a (I can look up the version if it matters). What is that, and when will whatever makes it so FAST get to production versions? Sorry, I found a reply in my mailbox after I posted this. Ignore. I can't ignore the question now that I've read it. So what is the answer? 2.1 is current 2.2 is beta 2.3 is alpha 2.4 is bleeding edge daily Until something breaks in the 2.4a I'm neither giving it up nor updating it. I think everything works (more testing on forms and Lightning in progress) but there are extensions and add-ons which undoubtedly won't work if I ever try them, Until I need them, so what? There's your answer, I don't use this for business correspondence, but for daily use it's a joy. Fast to the point that I thought the reload button didn't work until I watched the packets on the network. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?
Ray_Net wrote: Mike C wrote: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically? I hope not ! Let me choice *when* i want to change. Agreed! I may shut down auto update just to prevent it. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 13/06/2011 01:10, PhillipJones told the world: MCBastos wrote: Funny, username and password saving is working perfectly for me on 2.1. Both with the old passwords saved before the upgrade, and with new passwords. Not for Banks and Financial Institutions. SM 2 would not allow that, unless certain code in SM2.x to allow its there was even instructions on what code to change to allow it. You can do that in SM2.1 because its not written with that type code. Well, I don't trust *any* software with my bank passwords anyway. Even on my password manager app (KeePass, if you are interested) I didn't enter the banking passwords -- what I put is a *hint* (a sort of puzzle) to help me remember the password, if I ever forget it. I don't bother memorizing most passwords (e-mail, websites and such) -- the unimportant ones I trust to Seamonkey, the middling-important ones I save in KeePass. But the ones I do make a point of committing to memory and not writing them down *anywhere* are: - Banking passwords; - The KeePass password (of course) - The PGP passphrases That's nice, congratulations! Out of curiosity, How old are you now? I wonder myself as you get older because of your put bits and pieces of information in your Brain, the older you get the less you can tend to remember. you young chaps 20's-50's wait to you get in your 60's and 70's and 80's then you'll find out what us older people are talking about. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1 Cache
Ray Davison wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: W3BNR wrote: Where can I find an explanation of the new layout for the cached files? Yeah, why is it so COMPLICATED? If I missed something I only had to look in one location to find it. Now, there's this dizzying maze of directories to dig through. Like digging for pirate treasure or something!! It is supposed to be faster to access. But to use a cache is to go back to something that happened in the past. Do we go back so often that a small speed increase is actually valuable, if even noticeable? Or was this a solution looking for a problem? Ray looking for a problem -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.1 Bookmark Group Changes...
Jens Hatlak wrote: Antman008 wrote: 2) In SM 2.0.x, when I open a group of tabs, my current window would replace the current windows with the Group set. Preferences has a setting that asks you if you want SM to simply add new tabs or perform the replacement as 2.0.x did, and I have selected replacement, but SM 2.1 continues to add my Open all in Tabs groups as new tabs. I guess you mean the Link Behavior prefs. Correcting myself: The Tabbed Browsing pref do indeed have a matching option. This seems to be a regression, see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664101 HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour
Henk Fictorie wrote: MCBastos wrote: I'm having a weirder problem -- I can't see *any* passwords in Data Manager/Password Manager. The passwords tab is greyed out, even for the domains I *know* have saved passwords (such as my mail hosts). If I select Passwords only in the domain filter box, it shows *no* domains at all. If there's a show passwords button I should click, I have been unable to find it. This is exactly the same problem I'm experiencing. I cannot see the password tab. However the functionality of filling in passwords is still functioning, it's only the password/data manager which is not working. Henk Fictorie Glad I shelved 2.1. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?
On 6/14/2011 4:59 PM, Mike C wrote: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically? Yes (Just not yet) IE in the background or without my knowledge? Not at all, you will be prompted to accept the update. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What is Seamonkey 2.4a and why the version jump?
On 6/14/2011 5:47 PM Bill Davidsen submitted the following: W3BNR wrote: On 6/14/2011 10:31 AM Bill Davidsen submitted the following: Bill Davidsen wrote: I grabbed SM for a new machine (from the daily directory) and it calls itself 2.4a (I can look up the version if it matters). What is that, and when will whatever makes it so FAST get to production versions? Sorry, I found a reply in my mailbox after I posted this. Ignore. I can't ignore the question now that I've read it. So what is the answer? 2.1 is current 2.2 is beta 2.3 is alpha 2.4 is bleeding edge daily Until something breaks in the 2.4a I'm neither giving it up nor updating it. I think everything works (more testing on forms and Lightning in progress) but there are extensions and add-ons which undoubtedly won't work if I ever try them, Until I need them, so what? There's your answer, I don't use this for business correspondence, but for daily use it's a joy. Fast to the point that I thought the reload button didn't work until I watched the packets on the network. Thanks, Bill. I just came up to 2.1 this week. Previously I just stayed one above the latest releast, ie 2.0.xxpre where xx was one higher than the official release, so I was used to just a one number difference between released versions and nightlies. So far I'm happy with 2.1. -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Bull-throwers in Spain are called Senors, while in the USA they are called senators. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Fwd: Re: PGA Tour on Facebook with SM2.1
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Facebook is a nightmare in many ways. If you try to unsubscribe you have to notify them and then be certain that you do not use your account for *at least* 4 months - only then will they delete your account. They want to keep their numbers up and don't care about users. This should be illegal - I should be able to remove myself, and have my account 100% purged, within 24 business hours at most. I know why people waste so much time on Facebook, and it is sad. JeffM wrote: William Morrison wrote: that would require me giving out my username and password to be of any use to anyone and then everyone would have access to my Facebook Account. Ah. Facebook is a really stupid idea IMO. use SM 2.1 create a Facebook account of your own then You just lost me. A site that requires a signup to *view* doesn't interest me a bit. Again, a really stupid idea. So I guess no one is going to put forth the effort to see why SM 2.1 doesn't want to work with the PGA Tour golf game on Facebook which uses the Unity Web Player to run huh? -- Big Bill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 13/06/2011 23:31, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj told the world: I don't bother memorizing most passwords (e-mail, websites and such) -- the unimportant ones I trust to Seamonkey, the middling-important ones I save in KeePass. But the ones I do make a point of committing to memory and not writing them down *anywhere* are: - Banking passwords; - The KeePass password (of course) - The PGP passphrases That's nice, congratulations! Out of curiosity, How old are you now? I'm in my forties, why? That figures. Your not old enough to have problems remembering things. As you get older you capacity to remember things gets less and less. Not because of Dementia. But because your brain is constantly bombarded with pieces of information to learn and remember. The older you get some information is lost to make room for new. Also memory can be affecetd by medicines and chemicals you take, legit or not throughout your existence. Wait another twenty years you'll find out what us older folk are talking about. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
WLS wrote: cyberzen wrote: WLS a écrit : William DeCoster wrote: Please relay to the seamonkey people. Composer: click on a graphic it duplicates and jumps up to another location, (annoying). The graphic does delete ok, Never an issue before this release. Other annoying Features Pop Up anouncements and compress email folder announcements. Please, dump this stuff, I can't believe anyone would want it. The SeaMonkey people are to my knowledge not doing any development of Composer and IMHO think it should be removed from the suite. I hope this proposal to remove it could not be done without a vote and mine would be NO ! after all if you don't like it, do not look at it, but leave it alone ! It is not that I don't like it. If it was a GOOD WYSIWYG web editor I might even use it. However the development of the web has moved on to HTML, CSS and JavaScript, which Composer as it stands today does not handle properly in the current version. All I see it capable of is HTML. Can you create separate CSS stylesheets with it? All I see is inline styling for each element when I try and help someone who complains their page doesn't look right in a certain browser, but looks fine in another with pages designed with Composer. Does it handle HTML5? How do I change the default HTML 4.01 Transitional DOCTYPE it always inserts if I want to create a XHTML Strict site? Keep it for email, hide the icon, disable Ctrl+4 and the Window menu item until such time it is compatible with the changes in web design. I'll stick with hand coding in a text editor or use Aptana Studio. http://www.aptana.com/ I've never used it for web pages. But most of it is used in the Background for HTML Mail. There are some here that would cheer that. But HTML is a Fact of Life. and Those that are stuck on text only is getting behind the times fast. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
Bill Davidsen wrote: PhillipJones wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 12/06/2011 12:14, W3BNR told the world: So I'll be waiting for the updates to: Download Helper Prefbar Quote Colors Show IP Mail User Agent I wouldn't hold my breath for Display Mail User-Agent, it seems to have been abandoned -- version 1.6.6 had problems in Seamonkey for months but wasn't fixed. But I managed to update the maxversion in 1.6.5. and it seem to work OK in SM 2.1. (Now that 2.1 is final, I might have a look at 1.6.6 again, since it seemed to work in Thunderbird...) Quote Colors is in a similar situation, but again, it seems to work with just a change in the maxversion. If Philip Chee is interested, I can mail him my hacked versions of those and a couple other extensions that seem to be working fine in SM 2.1 I'll vote for QuoteColors. Without QuoteColors I simply could not read emails and Newsgroups. I have QuoteCollapse which does both colors and collapses long quoted sections so I can read the most recent (current) comments. And expand the quotes if needed, of course. I tried QuoteCollase several Times, and iI always ended up with a wide bar at the bottom where the status bar would be be bout 2 long and width of the screen. After removing it I would have to remove chrome file (which I have forgotten which file with SM off and the restart. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
Interviewed by CNN on 14/06/2011 19:36, PhillipJones told the world: That figures. Your not old enough to have problems remembering things. As you get older you capacity to remember things gets less and less. Not because of Dementia. But because your brain is constantly bombarded with pieces of information to learn and remember. The older you get some information is lost to make room for new. Also memory can be affecetd by medicines and chemicals you take, legit or not throughout your existence. Wait another twenty years you'll find out what us older folk are talking about. I understand the need, but I just disagree that's a good idea to save important passwords in your browser's password manager. The problem with that is: - Either you set a long timeout for the master password, and the passwords stay available if you get up for lunch and forget to close the browser, - Or you set it short, but keep being annoyed by the browser asking for your master password for routine, low-security stuff like downloading mail or visiting forums. So I save the routine passwords in Seamonkey. WITHOUT a master password. That's a deliberate choice: it gives me convenience for unimportant stuff. The important stuff I keep in a SEPARATE high-security password manager. So the security of my important passwords is not impinged upon by the convenience of the low-security ones. And I still have just one master password to remember. (Yes, I COULD keep my banking passwords and PGP passphrases in KeePass. It's considered very secure, probably lots more than the Mozilla keyword manager. I choose not to do so out of paranoia. There's other good password managers around, such as Roboform. I happen to like KeePass.) -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my IBM PC-XT. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
Interviewed by CNN on 14/06/2011 10:09, Jay Garcia told the world: Composer, since it's very beginning was never intended to be the all-powerful editor for the most savvy, web-design commercial type users but rather a simple built-in editor for those users with simple personal web pages, etc. that only need to create, maintain and update on an every now and then basis. If you want a more powerful and easy to use editor then install Kompozer, http://kompozer.net/ which is based on NVU. NVU is the base foundation for the Netscape built-in editor and AFAIK is also the basis for SM's editor, not sure on that tho. Actually, nVu/Kompozer was intended to be to the Composer module what Firefox is to the Browser module and Thunderbird is to the Mail module: an improved, stand-alone version. And it is, somewhat -- but the Web moved on, and from current perspective it's not THAT much better than the Composer module to be worth the effort of porting the improvements back in. I'm not sure about removing Composer -- but I think I would like some preference to hide it. Now and then I click on the wrong status bar icon and open it when what I wanted was another module... -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Bic. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wrapping Text Pages
On 6/14/11 10:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping. Is
there a way to get wrapping?
An example is athttp://rossde.com/test/Wrap_test.txt, which my
service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
Apparently, this is NOT a new problem. I see the same results with SM
2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work. In
userContent.css put:
pre {
white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}
No need for yet another extension.
The problem is that setting something in userContent.css will then
affect ALL text Web pages. That can disrupt a page that was formatted
for a fixed display the same way that pre elements on an HTML Web page
can be used for formatting.
The extension allows me to choose which pages will be wrapped.
--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/
On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: A stupid underlined thread
On 6/14/11 2:18 PM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 6/14/11 2:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Some times a see some thread being underlined ... but did not contain any un-readed post. Is it a problem with SM or the server news.mozilla.org owning mozilla.support.seamonkey ? This situation is ennoying. I'm seeing the same thing with Thunderbird 3.1.10. Also, an unread message sometimes gets marked as read as I open the newsgroup before it appears in the header pane. This is not the same read messages are not un-read messages because i read it the day before. Thread is underlined to tell me that there is at least one unread message, but all messages are readed before and no one is un bolt. I am not sure of what you mean. In my problem with unread messages -- (1) The Header entry is underlined, and there is a count of unread messages in that thread. But when I open the thread, the count changes; and there are fewer unread messages than originally indicated. (2) When I look carefully at the date-time of some already read messages in the thread, I see that I could not have already read them. The date-time is later than the last time I used Thunderbird. (3) I also see unread messages with subsequent replies that are marked as already read. The unread messages have earlier times than the already read replies. I definitely do not jump around in a thread that way. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A stupid underlined thread
On 06/14/2011 02:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Some times a see some thread being underlined ... but did not contain any un-readed post. Is it a problem with SM or the server news.mozilla.org owning mozilla.support.seamonkey ? This situation is ennoying. FWIW I do get that occasionally; not just on news.mozilla.org, but on other news servers as well. Seems as if the msg read bits get out of sorts. Generally when that happens I close the nntp window that I'm using reload a new one to see if that will reset it. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't until close SM and restart. Doesn't happen often, but certainly when it does it's irritating. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Browsing History and Password Manager(2.1)
The Browsing History screen has changed on Seamonkey 2.1, removing the options to specify for how long the history is maintained. Image 1 http://paladinsama.com/images/BrowsingHistory.2.0.png Image 2 http://paladinsama.com/images/BrowsingHistory.2.1.png So how does it work now? Do we have to use about:config to change the values? Are these changeable at all? Also, I liked the Password Manager screen before, with an option to see a list off all accounts and passwords regardless of site, and the option to sort them alphabetically by username or password. Is there an option to have the old behavior back? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
PhillipJones wrote: That figures. Your not old enough to have problems remembering things. As you get older you capacity to remember things gets less and less. Not because of Dementia. But because your brain is constantly bombarded with pieces of information to learn and remember. The older you get some information is lost to make room for new. Baloney. The human brain can remember far more than we give it credit. As long as a piece of information is linked to other pieces of information, it'll stick. And if you use it, it'll stick even better. I still remember my childhood phone number, even though I haven't used it in 30 years, because as a child I used it over and over and over. The only reason I don't remember my friends' numbers today is that I never dial them by hand, I rely on my phone. Also memory can be affected by medicines and chemicals you take, legit or not throughout your existence. True enough. Wait another twenty years you'll find out what us older folk are talking about. I'm old enough, but my brain still works. Use it or lose it, you know... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 14/06/2011 10:09, Jay Garcia told the world: Composer, since it's very beginning was never intended to be the all-powerful editor for the most savvy, web-design commercial type users but rather a simple built-in editor for those users with simple personal web pages, etc. that only need to create, maintain and update on an every now and then basis. If you want a more powerful and easy to use editor then install Kompozer, http://kompozer.net/ which is based on NVU. NVU is the base foundation for the Netscape built-in editor and AFAIK is also the basis for SM's editor, not sure on that tho. Actually, nVu/Kompozer was intended to be to the Composer module what Firefox is to the Browser module and Thunderbird is to the Mail module: an improved, stand-alone version. And it is, somewhat -- but the Web moved on, and from current perspective it's not THAT much better than the Composer module to be worth the effort of porting the improvements back in. I'm not sure about removing Composer -- but I think I would like some preference to hide it. Now and then I click on the wrong status bar icon and open it when what I wanted was another module... You could have it as an option in the install program like so many other choices. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: stumbleupon addon won't load for 2.1
TmoWizard wrote: Stan schrieb: I can't ignore the message because the SM Add-Ons Manager marked Stumble 3.91 as Disabled when I switched over to SM 2.1 yesterday. In about:config you must set /extensions.checkCompatibility/ from *true* to *false* and it works. Please install the Add-on /Add-on Compatibility Reporter/ from Mozilla https://addons.mozilla.org/de/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api and mark StumpleUppon as *Works properly*, it helps the Autors from Add-ons, Mozilla and at the End us Users from SeaMonkey or ather Gecko-Browsers! Stan Mike Regarding: In about:config you must set /extensions.checkCompatibility/ from *true* to *false* and it works. I don't even have this entry in about:config. Stan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wrapping Text Pages
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:43:32 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
On 6/14/11 10:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping. Is
there a way to get wrapping?
An example is athttp://rossde.com/test/Wrap_test.txt, which my
service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
Apparently, this is NOT a new problem. I see the same results with SM
2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work. In
userContent.css put:
pre {
white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}
No need for yet another extension.
The problem is that setting something in userContent.css will then
affect ALL text Web pages. That can disrupt a page that was formatted
for a fixed display the same way that pre elements on an HTML Web page
can be used for formatting.
The extension allows me to choose which pages will be wrapped.
Example
@-moz-document domain(mail.google.com) {
pre {
white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}
}
Phil
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Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: PhillipJones wrote: That figures. Your not old enough to have problems remembering things. As you get older you capacity to remember things gets less and less. Not because of Dementia. But because your brain is constantly bombarded with pieces of information to learn and remember. The older you get some information is lost to make room for new. Baloney. The human brain can remember far more than we give it credit. As long as a piece of information is linked to other pieces of information, it'll stick. And if you use it, it'll stick even better. I still remember my childhood phone number, even though I haven't used it in 30 years, because as a child I used it over and over and over. The only reason I don't remember my friends' numbers today is that I never dial them by hand, I rely on my phone. I still remember it was well, but its because I still live in my childhood house and still have the same phone number. Also memory can be affected by medicines and chemicals you take, legit or not throughout your existence. True enough. I had childhood epilepsy and was given two strong medicines to control the pettit Mal seizures (you zone out don't know what your doing and continue what you were doing at the instance you had the incident. As a result my first memory was the first year of school. (that's six years of my life I have no recollection of) Wait another twenty years you'll find out what us older folk are talking about. I'm old enough, but my brain still works. Use it or lose it, you know... Well I use it everyday. There no very many days that go by that I am not on the computer and Internet. Check back in in 20 years see whether you have the same opinion ;-) -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browsing History and Password Manager(2.1)
On 6/14/11 6:15 PM, paladinsama wrote: The Browsing History screen has changed on Seamonkey 2.1, removing the options to specify for how long the history is maintained. Image 1 http://paladinsama.com/images/BrowsingHistory.2.0.png Image 2 http://paladinsama.com/images/BrowsingHistory.2.1.png So how does it work now? Do we have to use about:config to change the values? Are these changeable at all? See bug #660646 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660646. Also, I liked the Password Manager screen before, with an option to see a list off all accounts and passwords regardless of site, and the option to sort them alphabetically by username or password. Is there an option to have the old behavior back? See bug #658075 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658075. This one is marked WontFix. I'm trying to determine how to phrase a new bug report on this that will be fixed for both cookies and passwords. This might require two separate bug reports. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wrapping Text Pages
On 6/14/11 7:40 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:43:32 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
On 6/14/11 10:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping. Is
there a way to get wrapping?
An example is athttp://rossde.com/test/Wrap_test.txt, which my
service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
Apparently, this is NOT a new problem. I see the same results with SM
2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work. In
userContent.css put:
pre {
white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}
No need for yet another extension.
The problem is that setting something in userContent.css will then
affect ALL text Web pages. That can disrupt a page that was formatted
for a fixed display the same way that pre elements on an HTML Web page
can be used for formatting.
The extension allows me to choose which pages will be wrapped.
Example
@-moz-document domain(mail.google.com) {
pre {
white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}
}
Phil
I don't want to update userContent.css every time I find another page
that I want wrapped. Also, I might want to view a page wrapped and then
later unwrapped.
I am quite satisfied with the Toggle Word Wrap extension.
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Re: Wrapping Text Pages
Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:56:45 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:
Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work. In
userContent.css put:
pre {
white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}
No need for yet another extension.
I usually want that setting dynamically triggered per view (even
multiple times per view), rather than fixed for a specific site.
The Toggle Word Wrap extension also works in the MailNews part. I
don't think one knows which new message will need to get the setting
or not. The extension provides some more magic with plain text
message composition - (dynamically) suppressing automatic text wrap
and format=flowed sending (useful for some cases [1]).
[1] paste unwrapped/preformatted to plain-text mail
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475712
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