Re: Why do all my addons have to break when ever I update?
Interviewed by CNN on 07/07/2011 21:23, JeffM told the world: ...then there is Google included an actual API for extensions in their Chrome Browser. http://google.com/search?tbs=dfn:1q=application-programming-interface Creators of extensions for that browser are always writing to that backwards-compatible layer and not having to constantly re-invent the wheel. I'm not a programmer myself, so I can't really argue the technical details. But I have seen actual extension programmers coming on record to say that the Chrome extension API is far less powerful than the Mozilla framework, and that some extensions are plain impossible to port to Chrome due to lack of needed API features. Stability has a price too. In Chrome's case, that price is limited functionality. Look at the pitiful substitutes for DownThemAll available for Chrome, for instance. Moving to Chrome and losing that functionality, for me, would be a form of masochism. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my mimeograph. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.2 Release
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.2: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.2 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: Added support for CSS animations. Tuned HTTP idle connection logic for increased performance. Improved canvas, JavaScript, memory, and networking performance. Improved standards support for HTML5, XHR, MathML, SMIL, and canvas. Improved spell checking for some locales. WebGL content can no longer load cross-domain textures. Background tabs have setTimeout and setInterval clamped to 1000ms to improve performance. Fixed several stability issues. Fixed several security issues. Fixed several high visibility usability issues from SeaMonkey 2.1. For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.2, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.2 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-07-07 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic] Congratulations to the SM developer team on reaching this milestone. And now begins the Gamma testing phase, wherein the population of 'real' users braves the upgrade process and begins to exercise the newly released version in an everyday environment. Being of a cowardly disposition, I personally will wait for a couple of weeks after the automatic upgrade becomes available to make my decision about installing 2.2 Reading the release features list and the release notes, I do not see any list of squashed bugs. There is a list of known problems. i.e. bugs not deemed important enough, or too difficult, to delay the release of 2.2. So I suggest expanding the release notes to include such a list of squashed bugs, and also a set of target dates for the elimination of the known problems. (So as to achieve a clean and stable version) Again, CONGRATULATIONS to the developer teams, and encouragement to keep up your creative efforts. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.2 Release
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 7/7/2011 11:46 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.2: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.2 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. ... Still no automated download/install? Help | Check for Updates produces: There are no updates available. SeaMonkey will check periodically for updates. [OK] Sorry, no auto update from 2.0.14 [yet]. In fact I am working on this now. We expect to have it out for beta users within the next few days, and for all users by about a week or two [max]. The automation side is ready/done for this, now its just the actual process/translation/testing work that needs doing. Hmmm ... Three days ago you wrote that we should expect 2.3, in 6 or 6.5 weeks. So that means that 2.2 will only be a the current version for the general users for about a month (6.5-2). That hardly gives us, users, time to get familiar with any new quirks. Also, of course, bug reports on 2.2 will easily be shrugged off; since, after all, 2.3 be the hot focus of all efforts. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
On 11-07-07 1:13 AM, Rufus wrote: MCBastos wrote: Guys, the gist of this discussion has been You don't understand... No, /you/ don't understand... No, it's you that doesn't understand... The discussion has gone nowhere and has gone on way too long. If you care to continue it, please take it to private email. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.2 Beta 3 Release -- Introduces New Features
On 7/6/2011 11:40 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/03/2011 12:57 AM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: SeaMonkey 2.2 Beta 2 is available for free download [1] now in 14 languages and makes a list of new functionality available to a wider testing audience for the first time. Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for testers only and might still show some problems in everyday use. As always, we appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by filing bugs. I think you mean: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.2b3 ... Robert claimed that lack of build resources was why Linux_x86-64 doesn't have a release. Could someone clarify how you can have enough resources to build four x86_64 Linux versions every night and not just once per release? No, I don't lack for places to get an onofficial versions, for the same of reporting bugs I use a nightly of the next version which comes from the official site, as opposed to getting a build or building from source. It only takes once being told we do not support versions build by third parties for unsupported architectures (a polite way to say go shit in your hat) to get me to grab one from an official source. Besides, they seem to work very well, I'm not unappreciative, just want to be able to report a bugs I do find. We *do* build linux x86_64 on EVERY release, beta and otherwise. We put those builds in contrib/*. We don't officially support them because we don't have the resources to support a variety of things, testing, automated testing, QA, etc. We provide them just don't officially support. No l10n builds for the platform either, fwiw. We tried to even get updates going for release builds of linux64 for 2.2 (we hit a snag, and won't delay 2.2 for a linux64 issue atm), and KaiRo was even able to manually create updates (to 2.0.14) from all prior 2.0 linux64 builds we produced. And in reality not sure where you get 4 every night we only create every night trunk/aurora linux64 builds, we have on change builds of linux64 that happen whenever the slave itself is free but it is ONLY one slave, so if the tree changes are heafty it gets pretty behind. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to authenticate to SMTP ?? #@?
Arnie Goetchius a écrit : Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: cyberzen wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: cyberzen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj a écrit : I'm using SM 2.0.14 . For this account according to the account settings: - I am connecting to pop.att.yahoo.net:995 . - The outgoing server (SMTP) is urj...@bellsouth.net - smtp.att.y... (I'm guessing that's smtp.att.yahoo.net . But the box for entering the entry doesn't scroll. So I can not verify the name) - Connection security is SSL/TLS and the check box for 'Use secure authentication' is unchecked [By the way, the account editing window can not be re-sized. For server settings, it is too narrow so that the boxes for 'advanced' and 'browse' are truncated on the right. Has the window been made re-sizable now for 2.1+ ] Recently my system has begun to issue the following error when I try to send out emails on this account: Sending of message failed. An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server smtp.att.yahoo.com. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'use name and password' for that server or contact your server provider NOTE: This is not a hard error. If I wait a minute or two and retry sending the message, it is sent out successfully. So who's to blame? AND how do I get rid of this annoyance? maybe you could tailor mailnews.tcptimeout (there is in prefs) see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Modify_Thunderbird_settings I have set mine to 120 I get the same problem occasionly. Using about:config my mailnews.tcptimeout was set to 100 so I changed it to 150 to see if that helps. fine.. have you seen the prefs / mail news / network storage / mail connections / connections timeout Mine is also set to 100 seconds (default) But somehow, I don't see how that second can be relevant to this problem. Also to amplify my NOTE. The send is usually successful on the second try. But sometimes I have had to try up to 3-5 times. Same here. I never had a problem on my laptop where SMTP was been set to imailhost.worldnet.att.net because I never changed it when Worldnet shutdown. I have now changed my desktop to Worldnet to see if that fixes the problem. there could be a problem on server side, have you tried with another mail client ? a delay in the response of your internet link should not be a problem because timeout adjustments should have solved it. meanwhile it's curious that it works when retrying ... -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube problems?
On 7/6/2011 5:56 AM PT, George Carden typed: Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out. No problems in my old SM v2.0.14 with the updated/latest PrefBar, FlashBlock, AdBlock Plus, Flash, etc. in my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 home PC and 64-bit W7 HP work PC. Both embedded and on youtube.com. :) -- Even the wishes of a small ant reach heaven. --Japanese /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Skipping version 2.1
On 7/5/2011 2:49 PM PT, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj typed: Oh sure... The update process may get to be smoothly automated. But that's not the problem. Every new version release brings with it a new bag of bugs. Hopefully some old bugs squashed but always some new bugs show up. A version release is a progression from a beta to a gamma error testing phase. Now a whole new population begins to try using the program. These are, by the way, not your gung-ho beta testers or early adopters who needed some feature of the new release. New features are 'nice', but I'd rather see a stable version and a follow-up series of bug patching and minor cosmetic repairs. Ditto and updated addons/extensions for me without hacking/editing/modifying files like PrefBar (where is he? :P)! I have many! I hate to lose them. -- Stir up an ant's nest. --unknown /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Skipping version 2.1
On 7/5/2011 2:33 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed: * You don't have to, there is preferences to change this * It is ---highly--- recommended * It is required if you want to stay up to date on security updates, there will be no more 2.1 updates. (And only a 2.2.x update if there is a chemspill type of release) And no more 2.0.x updates? * The updates will be quite simple overall, there is the potential for some addons to be marked incompat, we will in the next few weeks be tackling trying to ready a system like Firefox is doing to try and mitigate these addon issues. Along with addon-dev outreach. Also of note, SeaMonkey specific changes in 2.3 vs 2.2 are near-0, due to the timing of us joing the rapid-release-train. The changes you would see are either Gecko-Specific features (website/platform side) and addon incompats that should hopefully be updated in good time. I hope so since I am still on v2.0.14. :) -- When an ant gets wings, it loses its head. --Bosnian Proverb /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help With 'jobview.monster.com'
On Jul 6, 7:07 pm, nr newsrea...@midsouth.rr.com wrote: When I select 'Sign In' on a jobview.monster.com page (example:http://jobview.monster.com/Apply/Apply.aspx?JobID=.), I get the appropriate boxes for Email Address and Password, which are successfully retrieved from my Password Manager. However, I cannot get the clicking on the Sign In button to work; the click, or Enter, is not recognized. I have disabled all of the extensions, still no luck. Any suggestions on how to correct this? Thanks for any help. Here's a complete URL that doesn't work: http://jobview.monster.com/Apply/Apply.aspx?JobID=100723224 Also, this issue is with version 2.1 . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More questions about SM 2.1
On 7 Jul., 06:01, Craig n...@pisquared.net wrote: Having gotten over most of my growing pains with the switch from 2.0.14 to 2.1 on my Linux box, I do have a couple of questions: 1. If I have several web browser tabs open, when I click on the Open a new tab button next to the left-most tab, the new tab is always opened at the extreme right of the existing tabs, regardless of which tab I am viewing. On the other hand, if I middle-click a link in one of the tabs, the new tab is opened to the right of the tab with the link and always right next to it. Middle-clicking a second link on the same tab opens a new tab to the right of the tab with the link, but to the left of the tab opened by the first middle-clicked link. Why this difference in behavior, and how can I make it work like it used to (always opening a new tab to the extreme right of the existing tabs)? 2. When I close down SM, it brings up the Acrobat Reader Splash Window, like it's briefly starting Acrobat Reader. Why is that? Craig 1. Change Prefereces - Browser - Tabbed Browsing - Open related tabs after current tab Urs ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst version ever
On 07.07.2011 01:01, Chris Ilias wrote: --- Original Message --- On 11-07-07 1:13 AM, Rufus wrote: MCBastos wrote: Guys, the gist of this discussion has been You don't understand... No, /you/ don't understand... No, it's you that doesn't understand... The discussion has gone nowhere and has gone on way too long. If you care to continue it, please take it to private email. ... or mozilla.general where everyone can jump in. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube problems?
cyberzen wrote: JD a écrit : cyberzen wrote: erwincas a écrit : On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Cardencardboa...@comcast.net wrote: Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out. Thanx. Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2, Shockwave Flash 10.2 r159. Chech your Add-Ons. maybe it's pefbar... I use PrefBar and the videos play fine. for me prefbar caused crashes in flash the first time I used it, and recently I installed it one more time, it caused blind square instead of flash video Now that you mention it, I used to have a problem with PrefBar and Flash but SM2 seems to have fixed that. For the record, I'm using SM 2.1, WinXPSP3, PrefBar v. 5.1.1, build date 20100723 From my notes, in earlier versions of SM, Prefbar looked for Flash in a different location than where Flash installed the plugin. The only problem that created was I couldn't turn Flash on and off using Prefbar. Like I said, I don't have that problem anymore. In SM2.1, check the location of your Flash plugin. About:Plugins File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll When I had the problem, I had to move the Flash plugin, NPSWF32.dll to the SM plugins folder: C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\plugins With SM2, that folder is empty. From your Header, it appears you're using SM 2.0.14. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Archiving Messages
Frog wrote: Question 1: I need instructions on how to establish an archival file system for my SeaMonkey messages. I presently have more that 1000 messages resident in my Inbox and another 1000 in my Sent location. I am using SeaMonkey version 2.0.14 on a Windows XP Pro/SP-3 system. My hard drive is partitioned with C and E drives. I would like to locate the archive file on the E drive if this is workable. Frog, Each year I set myself up a group of about a dozen folders, like 2011_Linux, 2011_Family, 2011_Jokes, etc, all at the same level as the inbox, and move messages from my inbox into the appropriate box. Then, in the new year, I move these folders onto the Local Folders and give myself a new set of folders on the mail server. Doesn't move things to your E: drive, but you could set your Local Folders up on your E: drive. HTH Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page Has Stopped Painting?
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Linux - Seamonkey 2.0.14 - Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This site was working fine as of yesterday but today it displays: NET Bible Study Environment Loading... Then says Done in the bottom left corner but the Bible study resource that should be displayed is not. http://net.bible.org/#!bible/Isaiah+30 Is anyone else with Seamonkey 2.0.14 seeing the same failure? Is it working with the newer version(s) of Seamonkey? Have they implemented something obvious that would cause it to suddenly fail with Seamonkey 2.0.14? Thanks! Displays Isaiah 30 for me on SM 2.0.14 on Mandriva Linux with a build identifier of Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 not firefox Note the not Firefox at the end.might make the difference!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Taskbar mail icon -- SM 2.1, Windows XP
The taskbar icon for SM mail is indistinct -- fuzzy, and the same color as the browser icon. Can I replace it with another *.ico file? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.2 Beta 3 Release -- Introduces New Features
Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: KaiRo was even able to manually create updates (to 2.0.14) from all prior 2.0 linux64 builds we produced. Just for clarification, I haven't put them online yet for the normal channels, but will do so once I get around to it. I can also put up such manually created full updates for the 2.1/2.2 betas and releases. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Skipping version 2.1
Ant schrieb: And no more 2.0.x updates? No, the platform for those releases isn't maintained any more and so the SeaMonkey team can't maintain the application there any more either. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
deja vu ... Re: e'mail adresses getting munged...
sean bean sent me the following:: lately when addressing my e'mail,i notice the autofill is munging things a wee bit... instead of: contact name contactn...@hotmail.com it autofills: contact name contactname@hotmail.com which i can't edit, and never gets delivered... sean here we go all over again ... the very same e'mail addresses have once again begun showing up as contact name@domain.com only this time there is no leading empty space when i go to investigate... so SM is messing with me mind me addressbook again... sean -- A nudist is just a person in a one-button suit. courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to authenticate to SMTP ?? #@?
cyberzen wrote: Arnie Goetchius a écrit : Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: cyberzen wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: cyberzen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj a écrit : ==snipped=== But somehow, I don't see how that second can be relevant to this problem. Also to amplify my NOTE. The send is usually successful on the second try. But sometimes I have had to try up to 3-5 times. Same here. I never had a problem on my laptop where SMTP was been set to imailhost.worldnet.att.net because I never changed it when Worldnet shutdown. I have now changed my desktop to Worldnet to see if that fixes the problem. there could be a problem on server side, have you tried with another mail client ? a delay in the response of your internet link should not be a problem because timeout adjustments should have solved it. meanwhile it's curious that it works when retrying ... So far it works on the first try everytime with Worldnet SMTP. Not only that, it sends almost immediately as opposed to waiting 1 or 2 seconds with Yahoo SMTP. I don't have another mail client but I can set SMTP to outgoing.verizon.net if Worldnet doesn't(stops) work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More questions about SM 2.1
On 07/06/2011 09:01 PM, Craig wrote: Having gotten over most of my growing pains with the switch from 2.0.14 to 2.1 on my Linux box, I do have a couple of questions: 1. If I have several web browser tabs open, when I click on the Open a new tab button next to the left-most tab, the new tab is always opened at the extreme right of the existing tabs, regardless of which tab I am viewing. On the other hand, if I middle-click a link in one of the tabs, the new tab is opened to the right of the tab with the link and always right next to it. Middle-clicking a second link on the same tab opens a new tab to the right of the tab with the link, but to the left of the tab opened by the first middle-clicked link. Why this difference in behavior, and how can I make it work like it used to (always opening a new tab to the extreme right of the existing tabs)? Preferences|Browser|Tabbed Browsing| tick: x Switch to new tabs opened from links x Middle-click, Ctrl+click... x Ctrl+Enter... 2. When I close down SM, it brings up the Acrobat Reader Splash Window, like it's briefly starting Acrobat Reader. Why is that? No clue. I never use the AR extension turn it off by default. I prefer to have my AR run independent of the browser. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: deja vu ... Re: e'mail adresses getting munged...
Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:23:26 -0700, /sean nathan bean/: sean bean sent me the following:: lately when addressing my e'mail,i notice the autofill is munging things a wee bit... instead of: contact name contactn...@hotmail.com it autofills: contact name contactname@hotmail.com which i can't edit, and never gets delivered... here we go all over again ... the very same e'mail addresses have once again begun showing up as contact name@domain.com only this time there is no leading empty space when i go to investigate... so SM is messing with me mind me addressbook again... Try checking about (and remove) trailing (not leading) space. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Open in New Tab strange results
Stan wrote: I posted some about this a few weeks ago but never received a response. This does not happen consistently! When I right click on an item in my personal tool bar or a URL in Live Journal (for example), and then select Open in New Tab, I quite often get two new tabs. The first new tab contains a name for the function like Google, or Anything and Everything which is associated with my Live Journal. The second new tab contains a url (sometimes modified slightly). If I click on Reload the second new tab opens the desired program. At times, I also get a very similar result in that sometimes the first new tab does not appear, just the second one. And that need a reload to open it. This all started with my download of SM 2.1. Thanks Stan I have found what causes this problem. I have to use Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.5 to be able to install a few Add-ons. One of these is StumbleUpon 3.9.1. When I enable StumbleUpon 3.9.1, it causes the problems I described above. When I disable StumbleUpon, the problem goes away. And, by the way, StumbleUpon works fine when it is enabled. Stan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More questions about SM 2.1
On 07/07/2011 01:16 PM, NoOp wrote: On 07/06/2011 09:01 PM, Craig wrote: Having gotten over most of my growing pains with the switch from 2.0.14 to 2.1 on my Linux box, I do have a couple of questions: 1. If I have several web browser tabs open, when I click on the Open a new tab button next to the left-most tab, the new tab is always opened at the extreme right of the existing tabs, regardless of which tab I am viewing. On the other hand, if I middle-click a link in one of the tabs, the new tab is opened to the right of the tab with the link and always right next to it. Middle-clicking a second link on the same tab opens a new tab to the right of the tab with the link, but to the left of the tab opened by the first middle-clicked link. Why this difference in behavior, and how can I make it work like it used to (always opening a new tab to the extreme right of the existing tabs)? Preferences|Browser|Tabbed Browsing| tick: x Switch to new tabs opened from links x Middle-click, Ctrl+click... x Ctrl+Enter... Sorry, forgot to add: make sure 'Open related tabs after current tab' is unchecked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Skipping version 2.1
David Wilkinson wrote: Are there any issues with upgrading directly from 2.0.14 to 2.2? My suggestion is don't upgrade, run in parallel. I never get rid of a version of an OS or an App until I am convinced that the replacement is preferable in all aspects. I often keep previous versions of both OSs and apps because there was some element of the previous I wanted/needed. This especially applies to Mozilla products because they change a lot. Try before you buy. I have been running the Mozilla suite since the beginning as a continuation of Netscape. My current mail and bookmarks files all started life in Netscape. I have never done anything with Any Mozilla product that could be considered an upgrade. I run multiple versions in parallel. Once, while searching for the date/time of the injection of a particular bug, I had twenty versions of Seamonkey on the HDD, all using the same profile. I commonly have two or three versions of SM each for Win and OS/2, all using the same profile and data - mail, news, bookmarks. I even have a SM1119 that uses the bookmarks from SM2.1. That is easy, going the other way is a little more work. This is all easier if you don't use the executables. If you use the ZIP files you just unzip, change the sub-directory name to something meaningful, create a run object, and you have a parallel app. It is also easy to run single or multiple versions from multiple profiles. This is helpful when you want to try something or things get weird. Just make the run object target look like this H:\SM21-Win\seamonkey.exe -Profilemanager Mozilla products are designed to work for us, not visa-versa. Have fun, Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Way to make navagation bar bigger ?
Hi, using sm 2.1. Is there a way to make the navigation bar larger and have a larger font. I'm referring to the big field at the top where the web addresses appear and were you can type in an address. I have a hi res lap top and I'd like this area to be easier to read. Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why do all my addons have to break when ever I update?
Interviewed by CNN on 07/07/2011 18:12, goldtech told the world: Please explain why it's necessary for addons to break when ever a new version of FF or SM comes out. Can not it be coded so that all the tools I use will continue to work? I don't get it - would someone explain? I'm not in the developers team, but I'll try to give a layman's explanation of what happens. Add-ons (extensions) hook into and modify the user interface of the program -- sometimes inserting a new module in the structure, sometimes replacing the standard module with their own customized module, whatever. But add-ons are written under a number of assumptions, those being that the calls (the way an add-on talks to the main program) will have such-and-such names and behave in such-and-such way. Here's the thing: the main program evolves too. The developers try not to change the existing interface whenever it's possible, exactly in order to avoid breaking add-ons. But sometimes the change is big, and some assumptions the add-on relied on are no longer valid. For instance, we had two rather big changes recently, one in Firefox, one in Seamonkey. Firefox completely overhauled the user interface. This means that add-ons that made certain assumptions about how the user interface would look and behave got hosed. In Seamonkey's case, there the new Places engine for bookmarks. Again, add-ons that expected the behavior of the old HTML bookmarks system broke. And those are just two particularly large changes. There are smaller changes spread all over the programs that, for one reason or another, also broke compatibility with previous versions. Sometimes it might be that the old behavior was found to be intrinsically unsafe, or intrinsically unstable, and the dev team decided to remove it. (When they do so, they usually promote an alternate approach to get the same results -- but that entails changing the add-on). Sometimes it could be that a particular piece of code was written by someone no longer active in the project, and the author did a poor job of documenting it. So nobody can really understand how it works now, and it is holding back the development of other parts of of the project. Eventually a decision is reached to replace it with new code -- but the new code will not behave quite the same way as the old code. And sometimes it's not the main project's developers' fault. Some extensions use the API calls in weird ways they weren't intended to be used. This might be a really good add-on developer pushing the boundaries of what's possible to do in an add-on... or a really lame add-on developer who can't understand the recommended way to do stuff. Either way, the main project developers cannot guarantee those undocumented tricks to keep working. A malfunctioning add-on can make a program unusable. That's why there is a compatibility check built in Firefox, Seamonkey co., because it's assumed that it's better for the user to have Firefox/Seamonkey/Thunderbird working without an add-on than to run the risk of it crashing horribly due to a faulty add-on. Note that the compatibility check does not do any sort of deep analysis of the add-on; it just checks if the add-on itself claims compatibility with the current program version. Some add-on authors (particularly the ones doing complex add-ons, such as NoScript or Enigmail, which could break stuff horribly) are understandably very conservative about such claims: they won't claim compatibility with a program version until they have tested it. So, depending on whether the add-on author was proactive about testing their work against the development (beta) versions of the main program, it might take some time until they release a version claiming compatibility. Other authors are less concerned and claim compatibility with versions which haven't even begun development yet. (In the case of add-ons that do things in a very simple, straightforward way, the assumption that those features will remain stable for a long time may even be reasonable. But it seems a bit too daring to me.) And... many times the add-on is not even broken; it works PERFECTLY WELL with the new Firefox/Seamonkey/Thunderbird version. It's just that nobody has bothered to update the compatibility claims in the add-on yet (That happens a lot with add-ons that are no longer being actively developed). It's not the dev team's fault that the add-on itself claims to be incompatible. In those cases, some community members sometimes will release slightly modified unofficial versions of the add-ons, with the only change being the compatibility claims (Sometimes it takes real programming fixes, too; but unofficial versions with fixes are not unheard of). Philip Chee maintains a repository of many such modified add-ons for Seamonkey (and, in a few cases, for Firefox and Thunderbird too) at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/ -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be
Re: YouTube problems?
JD a écrit : cyberzen wrote: JD a écrit : cyberzen wrote: erwincas a écrit : On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Cardencardboa...@comcast.net wrote: Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out. Thanx. Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2, Shockwave Flash 10.2 r159. Chech your Add-Ons. maybe it's pefbar... I use PrefBar and the videos play fine. for me prefbar caused crashes in flash the first time I used it, and recently I installed it one more time, it caused blind square instead of flash video Now that you mention it, I used to have a problem with PrefBar and Flash but SM2 seems to have fixed that. For the record, I'm using SM 2.1, WinXPSP3, PrefBar v. 5.1.1, build date 20100723 From my notes, in earlier versions of SM, Prefbar looked for Flash in a different location than where Flash installed the plugin. The only problem that created was I couldn't turn Flash on and off using Prefbar. Like I said, I don't have that problem anymore. In SM2.1, check the location of your Flash plugin. About:Plugins File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll you are right it was there... When I had the problem, I had to move the Flash plugin, NPSWF32.dll to the SM plugins folder: C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\plugins With SM2, that folder is empty. From your Header, it appears you're using SM 2.0.14. I decided to put it there : C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins\NPSWF32.dll thank you for explaining those clues for flash and prefbar.. -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube problems?
cyberzen wrote: JD a écrit : cyberzen wrote: JD a écrit : cyberzen wrote: erwincas a écrit : On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Cardencardboa...@comcast.net wrote: Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out. Thanx. Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2, Shockwave Flash 10.2 r159. Chech your Add-Ons. maybe it's pefbar... I use PrefBar and the videos play fine. for me prefbar caused crashes in flash the first time I used it, and recently I installed it one more time, it caused blind square instead of flash video Now that you mention it, I used to have a problem with PrefBar and Flash but SM2 seems to have fixed that. For the record, I'm using SM 2.1, WinXPSP3, PrefBar v. 5.1.1, build date 20100723 From my notes, in earlier versions of SM, Prefbar looked for Flash in a different location than where Flash installed the plugin. The only problem that created was I couldn't turn Flash on and off using Prefbar. Like I said, I don't have that problem anymore. In SM2.1, check the location of your Flash plugin. About:Plugins File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll you are right it was there... When I had the problem, I had to move the Flash plugin, NPSWF32.dll to the SM plugins folder: C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\plugins With SM2, that folder is empty. From your Header, it appears you're using SM 2.0.14. I decided to put it there : C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins\NPSWF32.dll thank you for explaining those clues for flash and prefbar.. You're welcome. Did it help? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why do all my addons have to break when ever I update?
goldtech wrote: Hi, Please explain why it's necessary for addons to break when ever a new version of FF or SM comes out. Can not it be coded so that all the tools I use will continue to work? I don't get it - would someone explain? For details, see elsewhere in this thread. However, my experience (which goes back over a decade, all the way to Netscape 4.x) has not been that add-ons break /whenever/ a new version of SM comes out. Occasionally, some of them break, and they're usually rewritten pretty quickly. But from where I sit, your blanket indictment greatly overstates the issue. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Way to make navagation bar bigger ?
On 2011/07/07 14:16 (GMT-0700) goldtech composed: using sm 2.1. Is there a way to make the navigation bar larger and have a larger font. I'm referring to the big field at the top where the web addresses appear and were you can type in an address. I have a hi res lap top and I'd like this area to be easier to read. The height of the container adapts to the font size actually used. I wrote an answer how to change UI sizes a few days ago in news://news.mozilla.org:80/4e10aa3e.9000...@dev.nul That link, if it doesn't work for you, is to group mozilla.dev.ports.os2 in thread SeaMonkey 2.1 fonts. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why do all my addons have to break when ever I update?
MCBastos wrote: Add-ons (extensions) hook into and modify the user interface of the program -- sometimes inserting a new module in the structure, sometimes replacing the standard module with their own customized module, whatever. ...then there is Google included an actual API for extensions in their Chrome Browser. http://google.com/search?tbs=dfn:1q=application-programming-interface Creators of extensions for that browser are always writing to that backwards-compatible layer and not having to constantly re-invent the wheel. It's one reason why Chrome is gathering up browser marketshare like a Hoover set on HI. Multi-process browsing is another meme where other browsers are making Gecko, with its multi-threaded browsing, look dated (where one screwed-up tab can kill everything). These are the prices you pay for being a pioneer: Everybody else gets to learn from your mistakes and applies that knowledge to *their* product. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.2 Release
The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.2: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.2 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: Added support for CSS animations. Tuned HTTP idle connection logic for increased performance. Improved canvas, JavaScript, memory, and networking performance. Improved standards support for HTML5, XHR, MathML, SMIL, and canvas. Improved spell checking for some locales. WebGL content can no longer load cross-domain textures. Background tabs have setTimeout and setInterval clamped to 1000ms to improve performance. Fixed several stability issues. Fixed several security issues. Fixed several high visibility usability issues from SeaMonkey 2.1. For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.2, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.2 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-07-07 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic] -- Justin Wood (Callek) SeaMonkey Council member ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.2 Release
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.2: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.2 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. ... Still no automated download/install? Help | Check for Updates produces: There are no updates available. SeaMonkey will check periodically for updates. [OK] -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
