Re: Why can one not copy from the Software Update window (was : Why doesn't check for update tell me there's a new version)

2011-10-03 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)



NoOp wrote:


On 10/02/2011 10:38 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



My Seamonkey 2.3.3, in invoking Check for updates says ...

nothing that can be copied and then pasted

W H Y   can I not copy text from the Software Update window,


Actually I think this is an excellent question. File a bug report as
this is most likely the only way it will probably be answered.


I thought that, in general, it was better to try to establish
by informed discussion whether or not a bug really existed than
to report a putative bug and then risk wasting the developers's
time investigating if it turns out not to be a bug at all.


and is the text therein accessible to screen readers ?


Install Orca  check for yourself?


I meant by design, not pragmatically.  Testing,
as everyone knows, can demonstrate only the presence
of bugs, not the absence of them.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Ray_Net

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 16:45:25 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:

Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net wrote :

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:50:27 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:


But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for
people who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?


Just to get some figures, how huge is your places.sqlite file?


62 megs, but what's that got to do with bookmarks?


That's where your bookmarks (and browsing history) get stored, if you
didn't know:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Places.sqlite

The second article links to Locked or damaged places.sqlite
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Locked_or_damaged_places.sqlite which
suggests a damaged places.sqlite may cause hangs. You may further read:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_hangs#Places_database



bookmarks.html 73KB
places.sqlite 21MB = 287 * 73KB

287 times more disk space - aie !
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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 03/10/2011 06:14, Ray_Net told the world:

 bookmarks.html 73KB
 places.sqlite 21MB = 287 * 73KB
 
 287 times more disk space - aie !

Unfair comparison. Places does more than storing bookmarks. It also
stores history, for instance. AND it also stores the site icons
(favicons), which do take a bit of space -- more than one line of text
(which is what a bookmark is, essentially), at least.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Jay Garcia
On 02.10.2011 23:39, Philip Chee wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:35:31 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote:
 Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net  wrote :
 
 So did you try running in safe-mode or with add-ons disabled to see 
 if it would make any difference?
 
 Yes, it makes no difference.
 
 Can you try installing and running this extension?
 
 http://www.andyhalford.com/checkplaces/
 
 CheckPlaces is a Firefox/SeaMonkey extension that allows you to check
 your bookmarks in different ways. There is a basic check of your
 bookmarks, and optional checks that the pages still exist, duplicate
 bookmarks, and empty folders. You can also use it to restore favicons
 that have gone missing, and compact and check the integrity of the
 Places database.
 
 =
 
 Try compacting and checking the integrity of your Places database.
 
 Phil
 

Be VERY VERY careful with that extension, it completely wiped out my
personal toolbar as well as other very important bookmarks, etc. Luckily
there is a restore function from the .json file. It also marks other
current valid bookmarks as questionable, failed and so on.


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Re: Lost extensions/add-ons in 2.4

2011-10-03 Thread Bob Fleischer

Oedipe wrote:

Here we go again, i've lost two extensions not compatible with the 2.4
recent upgrade :-(

I begin to be quite fed-up with all these automatic upgrades...



I can report that the Mail Redirect 0.7.6.6 extension stopped working 
properly when I upgraded to 2.4 (everything worked EXCEPT it didn't send 
anything).  I just re-installed Mail Redirect 0.7.6.6 and it resumed 
proper operation.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

JD wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
while. I thought eventually someone else
would bring it up and soon after, it would be
fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom
toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
happens on almost all websites that use
pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent
the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block
unrequested popup windows checked under your
Privacy and Security preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
problem with unrequested popups.



I double checked the preference setting, and it is
checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
popups. So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
worked back then.



Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?



Sure. Here's one (comics site):
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread WLS

Tom S. wrote:

JD wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
while. I thought eventually someone else
would bring it up and soon after, it would be
fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom
toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
happens on almost all websites that use
pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent
the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block
unrequested popup windows checked under your
Privacy and Security preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
problem with unrequested popups.



I double checked the preference setting, and it is
checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
popups. So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
worked back then.



Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?



Sure. Here's one (comics site):
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/



Disabled AdblockPlus, removed the tick from Block pop-up windows, and 
browsed to that link. No pop-ups occurred.


That is a site I am on everyday as part of my morning routine, and I've 
don't recall ever having a pop-up.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Jay Garcia
On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 JD wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

 Here's something that's bugged me for a long
 while. I thought eventually someone else
 would bring it up and soon after, it would be
 fixed. Oh well.

 Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

 When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
 assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
 exclamation point shows on the bottom
 toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
 on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
 tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
 happens on almost all websites that use
 pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
 these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
 disables it, so it only shows the F
 button.)

 Is there anything I can change to prevent
 the pop-ups from happening?

 TIA.



 You do not state whether you have Block
 unrequested popup windows checked under your
 Privacy and Security preferences.

 Are the offending popups Ads?

 I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
 AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
 problem with unrequested popups.


 I double checked the preference setting, and it is
 checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
 if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
 popups. So, that may be what's happening.

 I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
 tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
 worked back then.


 Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?

 
 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 

Not getting any popup(s) on the site, what are you seeing as a popup?


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/3/11 8:15 AM, Tom S. wrote:
 JD wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

 Here's something that's bugged me for a long
 while. I thought eventually someone else
 would bring it up and soon after, it would be
 fixed. Oh well.

 Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

 When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
 assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
 exclamation point shows on the bottom
 toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
 on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
 tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
 happens on almost all websites that use
 pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
 these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
 disables it, so it only shows the F
 button.)

 Is there anything I can change to prevent
 the pop-ups from happening?

 TIA.



 You do not state whether you have Block
 unrequested popup windows checked under your
 Privacy and Security preferences.

 Are the offending popups Ads?

 I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
 AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
 problem with unrequested popups.


 I double checked the preference setting, and it is
 checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
 if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
 popups. So, that may be what's happening.

 I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
 tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
 worked back then.


 Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?

 
 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923 SeaMonkey/2.4

I got no popups at that site.  I did see a few artifacts similar to
tooltips when I hovered my cursor over certain links.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Jay Garcia
On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?

 
 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 

Everybody so far replying isn't seeing any popup(s), popup blocking
disabled, no flash block or adblocking type extensions enabled.

Try clearing cache and cookies and try the site again.

If still no luck, try creating a new profile and go back to the comics
site and see if you're getting a popup.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/2/11 8:34 AM, Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




Initially, popups (I almost typed poopups, which might be appropriate)
were separate Web pages launched by scripts in the page you wanted to
see.  Today, many popups are artifacts of CSS, Flash, or scripts
themselves (without launching anything).

If they are from Flash, I strongly recommend Flashblock at
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.  I normally run with this enabled.  It
allows me to display a Flash presentation by clicking an icon on the
page containing Flash.

If you know a page uses JavaScript for a popup, you can disable
JavaScript.  I have the PrefBar extension (from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/67148/) installed
with a checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar for enabling and disabling
JavaScript.  It's very, very handy.  I normally run with JavaScript
enabled.  However, when SeaMonkey seems to be operating strangely, I
disable JavaScript; then, SeaMonkey usually returns to normal behavior.

Similarly, I also have a checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar for enabling
and disabling CSS.  While disabling CSS strips away almost all
formatting, a well-designed Web page should still have understandable
content.



As I mentioned, I have Flashblock. I also have 
PrefBar, but constantly needing to toggle 
JavaScript on  off seems a bit impractical.

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Re: Why doesn't check for update tell me there's a new version

2011-10-03 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

Otto Wyss wrote:
AUS:SVC gCanApplyUpdates - testing write access C:\Program 
Files\SeaMonkey\update.test


AUS:SVC gCanApplyUpdates - unable to apply updates. Exception: 
[Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 
(NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [nsILocalFile.create]  nsresult: 
0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) location: JS frame :: 
jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files/SeaMonkey/omni.jar!/components/nsUpdateService.js 
:: aus_gCanApplyUpdates :: line 202  data: no] 


This sounds like your windows account has no write access to the 
install-location.


And is most likely your reason for having the error.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 11:34:46 -0400, /Tom S./:


I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?


SM continues to stop automatic popups. I don't see
a change in the behavior.


When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?


You may stop interacting with the page but I don't
think that's much useful for you. Unfortunately
popups triggered from an interactive actions are
not blocked, otherwise it would block all
legitimate popups triggered explicitly by you.

You may however try to blocking somewhat more
(than the default setup) or most popups with the
Edit - Preferences: Browser / Link Behavior
settings:

Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window

When scripts want to open a new window:
(x) Always divert windows into tabs

The label for the later is somewhat confusing
according the real preference documentation [1]:

| 0
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow.
| This includes:
| * All HTML links with target=_blank.
| * All JavaScript calls to window.open().

That should mean no new windows/tabs could be
created by web content - only explicitly by you
(e.g. using Ctrl+N or Ctrl+T).

Using the default value for the second option with
the changed value for the first would also block
more but no all of the popups (see what fits bets
for you):

Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window

When scripts want to open a new window:
(x) Don't divert custom windows into tabs

The later really means:

| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
| the new window specifies how it should be
displayed.
| This includes:
| * All links with target=_blank.
| * JavaScript calls to window.open() without the
features
| parameter (3rd parameter).
| This does not include:
| * JavaScript calls to window.open() with the
features
| parameter (3rd parameter).

This will eliminate more of the new windows,
unless opened by scripts with features parameter.

[1]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction




Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in the 
config editor (about:config). So, now when a 
pop-up opens, it is in a new small window instead 
of another tab. I can close it with Alt-F4 on the 
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


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Anyone ever get a 404 on Cnet downloads?

2011-10-03 Thread chicagofan

http://download.cnet.com/windows/?tag=contentMain%3bcontentBody

I've tried several times to download the Avast free version of their 
anti-virus software through their site and got a 404.   When I noticed 
it was going to the Cnet site, I went directly to the Cnet site and 
tried again several times... and keep getting a We're sorry the page 
you requested cannot be found  from the site.


I've never had this happen before on their downloads.   Has anyone here?
bj


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Re: Anyone ever get a 404 on Cnet downloads?

2011-10-03 Thread WLS

chicagofan wrote:

http://download.cnet.com/windows/?tag=contentMain%3bcontentBody

I've tried several times to download the Avast free version of their
anti-virus software through their site and got a 404. When I noticed it
was going to the Cnet site, I went directly to the Cnet site and tried
again several times... and keep getting a We're sorry the page you
requested cannot be found from the site.

I've never had this happen before on their downloads. Has anyone here?
bj




Just tested it and got the 404 message when I clicked on the AVG 
Anti-virus Free Edition 2012 link.


When I right clicked and selected Open link in New Tab, it opened just fine.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

--- Original Message ---


JD wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP
SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for
a long while. I thought eventually
someone else would bring it up and
soon after, it would be fixed. Oh
well.

Why is it SM no longer stops
pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up,
I have assigned a pop sound and the
highlighted exclamation point shows
on the bottom toolbar. But then, if I
should click anywhere on the page,
the pop-up will open into a new tab,
instead of remaining suppressed.
This happens on almost all websites
that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they
will use Flash for these pop-ups, but
the Flashblock extension disables it,
so it only shows the F button.)

Is there anything I can change to
prevent the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have
Block unrequested popup windows checked
under your Privacy and Security
preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but
do have AdBlock Plus installed and
never have a problem with unrequested
popups.



I double checked the preference setting,
and it is checked. However, I see in the
disclaimer: Even if blocked, websites
may use other methods to show popups.
So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus,
which I tried a long time ago, but didn't
like the way it worked back then.



Got any examples of pages that are giving
you popups?



Sure. Here's one (comics site):
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/



Not getting any popup(s) on the site, what are
you seeing as a popup?




It's usually an ad (using Flash) for Netflix. I
notice now that after it pops up, it can't get it
to repeat until after I close SM and open again to
the page.

Here's a few more sites with the same action:

http://snopes.com/

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/

http://freethoughtblogs.com/

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Tom S. wrote:


JD wrote:


Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?


Sure. Here's one (comics site):
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/


Works fine for me, no popups. Tried disabling AdBlockPlus and reloading, 
still no popup. SM 2.3.3.


Tried clicking in blank areas of the page (not links), both with and 
without ABP, no popup.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Jay Garcia
On 03.10.2011 12:48, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 JD wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP
 SP3.

 Here's something that's bugged me for
 a long while. I thought eventually
 someone else would bring it up and
 soon after, it would be fixed. Oh
 well.

 Why is it SM no longer stops
 pop-ups?

 When a page loads that has a pop-up,
 I have assigned a pop sound and the
 highlighted exclamation point shows
 on the bottom toolbar. But then, if I
 should click anywhere on the page,
 the pop-up will open into a new tab,
 instead of remaining suppressed.
 This happens on almost all websites
 that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they
 will use Flash for these pop-ups, but
 the Flashblock extension disables it,
 so it only shows the F button.)

 Is there anything I can change to
 prevent the pop-ups from happening?

 TIA.



 You do not state whether you have
 Block unrequested popup windows checked
 under your Privacy and Security
 preferences.

 Are the offending popups Ads?

 I don't have Flashblock installed, but
 do have AdBlock Plus installed and
 never have a problem with unrequested
 popups.


 I double checked the preference setting,
 and it is checked. However, I see in the
 disclaimer: Even if blocked, websites
 may use other methods to show popups.
 So, that may be what's happening.

 I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus,
 which I tried a long time ago, but didn't
 like the way it worked back then.


 Got any examples of pages that are giving
 you popups?


 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/


 Not getting any popup(s) on the site, what are
 you seeing as a popup?


 
 It's usually an ad (using Flash) for Netflix. I
 notice now that after it pops up, it can't get it
 to repeat until after I close SM and open again to
 the page.
 
 Here's a few more sites with the same action:
 
 http://snopes.com/
 
 http://www.philly.com/philly/news/
 
 http://freethoughtblogs.com/
 

I get zero popups on those sites as well. Did you try creating a new
profile to see what happens?


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction


Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one (browser.link.open_newwindow) to 
something more restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively 
allow more popups setting the second one 
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value of 2.


Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread WLS

Tom S. wrote:

snip


It's usually an ad (using Flash) for Netflix. I
notice now that after it pops up, it can't get it
to repeat until after I close SM and open again to
the page.

Here's a few more sites with the same action:

http://snopes.com/

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/

http://freethoughtblogs.com/



Only pop-up/redirect I had was when I hovered over the lower left item 
of the bar at the bottom of the philly.com link. With AdBlock Plus 
disabled it showed an ad for Verizon, with it enabled it still opened 
but was blank.


If you are getting Netflix ads, I recommend the Adblock Plus extension.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/

I also see that there is an Adblock Plus Pop-up Addon for even more 
control over pop-ups.


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus-pop-up-addon/

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Re: Anyone ever get a 404 on Cnet downloads?

2011-10-03 Thread chicagofan

WLS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
   

http://download.cnet.com/windows/?tag=contentMain%3bcontentBody

I've tried several times to download the Avast free version of their
anti-virus software through their site and got a 404. When I noticed it
was going to the Cnet site, I went directly to the Cnet site and tried
again several times... and keep getting a We're sorry the page you
requested cannot be found from the site.

I've never had this happen before on their downloads. Has anyone here?
bj
 

Just tested it and got the 404 message when I clicked on the AVG
Anti-virus Free Edition 2012 link.

When I right clicked and selected Open link in New Tab, it opened just fine.

Strange, but true.
   


Thanks for the check!  Apparently their latest page updates need some 
work.   :)


I'll try your trick, if it doesn't correct today or tomorrow.
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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Jane--Galt
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com  wrote :

 On 02.10.2011 23:39, Philip Chee wrote:
 
  --- Original Message ---
 
 On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:35:31 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote:
 Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net  wrote :
 
 So did you try running in safe-mode or with add-ons disabled to see 
 if it would make any difference?
 
 Yes, it makes no difference.
 
 Can you try installing and running this extension?
 
 http://www.andyhalford.com/checkplaces/
 
 CheckPlaces is a Firefox/SeaMonkey extension that allows you to check
 your bookmarks in different ways. There is a basic check of your
 bookmarks, and optional checks that the pages still exist, duplicate
 bookmarks, and empty folders. You can also use it to restore favicons
 that have gone missing, and compact and check the integrity of the
 Places database.
 
 =
 
 Try compacting and checking the integrity of your Places database.
 
 Phil
 
 
 Be VERY VERY careful with that extension, it completely wiped out my
 personal toolbar as well as other very important bookmarks, etc. Luckily
 there is a restore function from the .json file. It also marks other
 current valid bookmarks as questionable, failed and so on.
 
 

Uh, no thanks then.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Jane--Galt
MCBastos myemail@example.invalid  wrote :

 Interviewed by CNN on 03/10/2011 00:35, Jane--Galt told the world:
 
 Oh. I've been a fan of Netscape browsers since around 1994 when I first
 got on the net - Navigator, which I suppose eventually evolved into
 Seamonkey in the nearest form to that original? I thought they resided
 in something called Bookmarks.html
 
 They used to... up to Seamonkey 2.0.x. The big thing in Seamonkey 2.1
 was exactly introducing the new database-based Places system, which
 Firefox had since version 3.
 

And that appears to be exactly when I started having these stalled bookmark 
button problems.

In fact I recall uninstalling 2.0 for awhile and using 1.x instead, because 
of it.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Jane--Galt
MCBastos myemail@example.invalid  wrote :

 Interviewed by CNN on 03/10/2011 06:14, Ray_Net told the world:
 
 bookmarks.html 73KB
 places.sqlite 21MB = 287 * 73KB
 
 287 times more disk space - aie !
 
 Unfair comparison. Places does more than storing bookmarks. It also
 stores history, for instance. AND it also stores the site icons
 (favicons), which do take a bit of space -- more than one line of text
 (which is what a bookmark is, essentially), at least.
 

I like a lot of history, it makes things very convenient, but they need to 
find some way to speed up the loading from that Bookmarks button and make it 
stop being eratic.

Perhaps they could separate the history stuff from the raw bookmarks file?

I think my bookmarks alone were just about 3.4 megs.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Jay Garcia
On 03.10.2011 15:02, Jane--Galt wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com  wrote :
 
 On 02.10.2011 23:39, Philip Chee wrote:
 
  --- Original Message ---
 
 On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:35:31 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote:
 Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net  wrote :
 
 So did you try running in safe-mode or with add-ons disabled to see 
 if it would make any difference?
 
 Yes, it makes no difference.
 
 Can you try installing and running this extension?
 
 http://www.andyhalford.com/checkplaces/
 
 CheckPlaces is a Firefox/SeaMonkey extension that allows you to check
 your bookmarks in different ways. There is a basic check of your
 bookmarks, and optional checks that the pages still exist, duplicate
 bookmarks, and empty folders. You can also use it to restore favicons
 that have gone missing, and compact and check the integrity of the
 Places database.
 
 =
 
 Try compacting and checking the integrity of your Places database.
 
 Phil
 
 
 Be VERY VERY careful with that extension, it completely wiped out my
 personal toolbar as well as other very important bookmarks, etc. Luckily
 there is a restore function from the .json file. It also marks other
 current valid bookmarks as questionable, failed and so on.
 
 
 
 Uh, no thanks then.
 

You can give it a shot but make SURE you make a backup first. If you're
using SM or FF then an auto-backup of your bookmarks are backed up to a
.json file which is accessed/restored via Bookmarks = Manage Bookmarks
(SM) or Show Bookmarks (FF) = Restore - that's how I restored mine in FF.


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Re: SM 2.3.1 email and Google Desktop Search

2011-10-03 Thread NoOp
On 09/07/2011 06:41 AM, Steve B. wrote:
 Since installing SM 2.0 and later versions I have not been able to have 
 Google Desktop Search index any of my SM email.
 I have copied GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll, GoogleDesktopMozillaStub.js, and
 GoogleDesktopMozillaStub.xpt to C:\Program Files\Seamonkey\components 
 with no success and even reinstalled GDS and re-indexed.  No luck.  Any 
 help will be appreciated.
 
 Steve B.

As an FYI:
http://googledesktop.blogspot.com/2011/09/google-desktop-update.html
quote
Google Desktop Update
Friday, September 02, 2011 12:48 PM
...
As of September 14, Google Desktop will no longer be available for
download, and existing installations will not be updated to include new
features or fixes.

Thanks again to all of our users. It’s been a fun journey.
/quote

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction



Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same 
tab, so I have to use the back button to get to 
the source page.
Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons 
disabled or with a blank profile, but doubt there 
will be much difference. It's strange why no one 
else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on 
these sites.


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Re: Anyone ever get a 404 on Cnet downloads?

2011-10-03 Thread Ray_Net

chicagofan wrote:

http://download.cnet.com/windows/?tag=contentMain%3bcontentBody

I've tried several times to download the Avast free version of their
anti-virus software through their site and got a 404. When I noticed it
was going to the Cnet site, I went directly to the Cnet site and tried
again several times... and keep getting a We're sorry the page you
requested cannot be found from the site.

I've never had this happen before on their downloads. Has anyone here?
bj



I clicked on your url, and i don't experience de error.
Win7 32 bits pro with:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1
The only extensions i have are the french language and the french 
spell-checking.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread NoOp
On 10/03/2011 01:39 PM, Tom S. wrote:
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
...
 Try such a configuration:

 browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
 browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same 
 tab, so I have to use the back button to get to 
 the source page.
 Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons 
 disabled or with a blank profile, but doubt there 
 will be much difference. It's strange why no one 
 else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on 
 these sites.
 

Were I you, I'd run malware/spyware/virus etc., scans. Clear your
cookies, cache, and history (you can easily make a backup first).
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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread WLS

Tom S. wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction



Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0


OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to use
the back button to get to the source page.
Thanks anyway. :-\ I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a blank
profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange why no
one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.



Because we use the ADblock Plus extension.

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Re: Anyone ever get a 404 on Cnet downloads?

2011-10-03 Thread chicagofan

Ray_Net wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
   

http://download.cnet.com/windows/?tag=contentMain%3bcontentBody

I've tried several times to download the Avast free version of their
anti-virus software through their site and got a 404. When I noticed it
was going to the Cnet site, I went directly to the Cnet site and tried
again several times... and keep getting a We're sorry the page you
requested cannot be found from the site.

I've never had this happen before on their downloads. Has anyone here?
bj
 

I clicked on your url, and i don't experience de error.
Win7 32 bits pro with:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1
The only extensions i have are the french language and the french
spell-checking.
   


Thanks!!!  They have apparently fixed whatever was wrong this morning, 
because I just tried it again, and downloaded the app I wanted.   :)

bj



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Re: Anyone ever get a 404 on Cnet downloads?

2011-10-03 Thread JD

chicagofan wrote:

http://download.cnet.com/windows/?tag=contentMain%3bcontentBody

I've tried several times to download the Avast free version of their
anti-virus software through their site and got a 404. When I noticed it
was going to the Cnet site, I went directly to the Cnet site and tried
again several times... and keep getting a We're sorry the page you
requested cannot be found from the site.

I've never had this happen before on their downloads. Has anyone here?
bj



When I start here: http://www.avast.com/en-us/index
and click on the Download  learn more button, it goes to:
http://www.avast.com/en-us/free-antivirus-download
and when I click on the Download button it goes to:
http://www.avast.com/en-us/download-thank-you.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.avast.com%2Fiavs5x%2Fsetup_av_free.exeproduct=FApage=en-us/free-antivirus-downloadlocale=en-usavast=0
and a window pops up for me to click on to download the setup file.
setup_av_free.exe
No Cnet.
The exe file is coming from:
http://files.avast.com/iavs5x/setup_av_free.exe

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/3/11 10:48 AM, Tom S. wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 JD wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP
 SP3.

 Here's something that's bugged me for
 a long while. I thought eventually
 someone else would bring it up and
 soon after, it would be fixed. Oh
 well.

 Why is it SM no longer stops
 pop-ups?

 When a page loads that has a pop-up,
 I have assigned a pop sound and the
 highlighted exclamation point shows
 on the bottom toolbar. But then, if I
 should click anywhere on the page,
 the pop-up will open into a new tab,
 instead of remaining suppressed.
 This happens on almost all websites
 that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they
 will use Flash for these pop-ups, but
 the Flashblock extension disables it,
 so it only shows the F button.)

 Is there anything I can change to
 prevent the pop-ups from happening?

 TIA.



 You do not state whether you have
 Block unrequested popup windows checked
 under your Privacy and Security
 preferences.

 Are the offending popups Ads?

 I don't have Flashblock installed, but
 do have AdBlock Plus installed and
 never have a problem with unrequested
 popups.


 I double checked the preference setting,
 and it is checked. However, I see in the
 disclaimer: Even if blocked, websites
 may use other methods to show popups.
 So, that may be what's happening.

 I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus,
 which I tried a long time ago, but didn't
 like the way it worked back then.


 Got any examples of pages that are giving
 you popups?


 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/


 Not getting any popup(s) on the site, what are
 you seeing as a popup?


 
 It's usually an ad (using Flash) for Netflix. I
 notice now that after it pops up, it can't get it
 to repeat until after I close SM and open again to
 the page.
 
 Here's a few more sites with the same action:
 
 http://snopes.com/
 
 http://www.philly.com/philly/news/
 
 http://freethoughtblogs.com/
 

No wonder I didn't see any popups.  You say it's Flash, but I run with
the Flashblock extension enabled.  Furthermore, with one execption, I
don't even see the Flashblock icon (f in a circle) because I also run
with the AdBlock Plus extension enabled.

The exception was for one Flash on the
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ page, which was nevertheless
stopped by Flashblock.  With AdBlock Plus disabled, there were three
additional Flash presentations on that page.  All four of them were
stopped by FlashBlock.

None of these Flash presentations meet the classical definition of
popup, at least the definition used in implementing SeaMonkey's Popup
Manager.  To manage Flash, you really should install the Flashblock
extension from http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.  To manage
advertisements in general, use AdBlock Plus from
http://adblockplus.org/en/.

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Re: Anyone ever get a 404 on Cnet downloads?

2011-10-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/3/11 9:49 AM, chicagofan wrote:
 http://download.cnet.com/windows/?tag=contentMain%3bcontentBody
 
 I've tried several times to download the Avast free version of their 
 anti-virus software through their site and got a 404.   When I noticed 
 it was going to the Cnet site, I went directly to the Cnet site and 
 tried again several times... and keep getting a We're sorry the page 
 you requested cannot be found  from the site.
 
 I've never had this happen before on their downloads.   Has anyone here?
 bj
 
 

Were you trying to get AVG 2012 or Avast 2012?  I got the freeware
version of the former from
http://free.avg.com/us-en/download-free-all-product.

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Re: [Ping David E. Ross] Browser sniffing - Another Section 508 for you

2011-10-03 Thread NoOp
On 09/30/2011 08:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...
 
 I've submitted two reports to the U.S. Department of Education, to their
 Technical Support unit.  One report was about Firefox 7.0 not being
 recognized, and the other was about SeaMonkey (any version) not being
 recognized.
 
 I'll wait about a week for a reply.  If none (or none acceptable) is
 received, I will then send a postal letter to Secretary of Education
 Arne Duncan.
 
 HOWEVER, everyone else encountering such problems should also
 communicate with those in authority to correct them.  You should not
 slough it off onto someone else.
 

Reply from federalstudentaidcustomerserv...@ed.gov to a user that
reported that he couldn't access the website with a linux browser
(Firefox in this case):

 *From:* FAFSAWeb federalstudentaidcustomerserv...@ed.gov
 *Date:* October 3, 2011 time snipped
 *To:* snipped
 *Subject:* *RE: Can't access site*
 
 Thank you for your inquiry about federal student aid.
 
 The browsers (along with specific operating systems) listed below have been
 certified for use with FAFSA on the Web. If you choose to use a browser
 (with an operating system) other than the ones listed here, the site's pages
 may not display properly, and you may encounter problems while entering your
 application that Customer Service may not be able to resolve. On a quarterly
 basis, the U.S. Department of Education will evaluate new browser versions
 and certify them for use with FAFSA on the Web.
 
 Please use one of the following supported browser and operating system
 combinations.
 
 Microsoft browsers:
 6.0.2600. - Internet Explorer 6.0 (Windows XP)
 6.0.2800.1106 - Internet Explorer 6.0 with Service Pack 1 (Windows XP)
 6.0.2900.2180 - Internet Explorer 6.0 with Service Pack 2 (Windows XP)
 7.0.5730.11 - Internet Explorer 7.0 (Windows XP, and Windows Vista)
 7.0.6000.164448 - Internet Explorer 7.0 (Windows Vista)
 8.0.6001.18702 - Internet Explorer 8.0 (Windows XP, Windows 7)
 8.0.600 - Internet Explorer 8.0 (Windows Vista, Windows 7)
 All versions of Internet Explorer 6 customized with the Internet Explorer
 Administration Kit (IEAK) include one of the following strings after the
 version number when you select About on the Help menu:
 IC = Internet Content Provider
 IS = Internet Service Provider
 CO = Corporate Administrator
 
 Mozilla Firefox browsers:
 Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x (Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Vista, Mac OS X
 10.4.x, and Mac OS X 10.5.x)
 Mozilla Firefox 3.6.x (Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X
 10.5.x, and Mac OS X 10.6.x)
 
 Apple Safari browsers:
 Safari 4.0 (Windows XP, Windows Vista, Mac OS X 10.4.x and Mac OS X 10.5.x)
 Safari 5.0 (Windows XP, Windows Vista, Mac OS X 10.5.x and Mac OS X 10.6.x)
 
 Google Chrome browsers:
 Google Chrome 5.0.x (Windows 7)
 Google Chrome 6.0.x (Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7, Mac OS X
 10.5.x)
 Google Chrome 7.0.x (Windows 7)
 
 Opera browsers:
 Opera 9 (Windows 7)
 Opera 10 (Windows 7)
 Opera Mini (Mac OS X 10.4.x)
 
 If you have additional questions or technical problems with FAFSA on the
 Web, please contact the Federal Student Aid Information Center (FSAIC) at
 1-800-4-FED-AID (1-800-433-3243) or 319-337-5665 between 6:00am and
 midnight, Monday through Friday and 9:00am to 6:00pmSaturday Eastern Time.
 Please listen for the Web site assistance option for help with the PIN or
 the FAFSA on the Web site. You may also contact us at
 federalstudentaidcustomerserv...@ed.gov if you have further technical
 support questions.
 
 We hope this information is helpful.
 
 
 Ingrid Sure
 FSAIC Technical Support
 1-800/433-3243 TTY 1-800/730-8913

Note that they specify approved operating systems (linux not included),
*and* require users to use an EOL FF 3.5 browser (?? not sure as there
doesn't seem to be any definitive FF page on EOL's), and/or a close to
EOL Mozilla browser 3.6.

Regardless of the status of FF 3.x versions, they clearly do not support
any current versions (7.x) and that would include SeaMonkey 2.4 (gecko
7) and SeaMonkey 2.5 (gecko 8).


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