Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
JD wrote: You replied to my reply to another person. You replied to my reply to Walter. If you don't know what upgrade to upgrade gave you problems, then it's hard to say what your next upgrade to upgrade will do. SeaMonkey is not Netscape. Click on Help, About SM. What is your current version? If your current version is 2.0.14, then the upgrade so 2.4.1 should be OK. If you have any problems with that upgrade, then post back to this newsgroup and somebody will try to help. Note: For the vast majority of users who have only one computer, this last bit of advice is not very helpful. It's like saying if your telephone isn't working, give us a call. Of course, most people have friends with working phones, but still, I hope you can see the irony. In the best of all possible worlds, we'd have a 24-hour toll-free help line. In the real world, troubleshooting is somewhat more difficult, and it's reasonable for someone who's just been burned to be cautious. This is why I begin by synching my desktop installation with my laptop, and upgrade the laptop only. If that proves troublesome, I still have a working desktop to complain from. If I'm satisfied that it works fine, only then do I take a chance and upgrade the desktop, knowing that I have a working laptop as a fallback. I have no other software whose upgrades I distrust so much; in 25 years of running PCs I've never had any other application lose major categories of data or become completely inoperable due to an upgrade. If it were some minor applet like Flash I'd blow it off, but SeaMonkey is absolutely central and essential to what I do in both business and personal life. Without it, I'd be out of business in a heartbeat. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where's my Homepages??
W3BNR wrote: On 10/4/2011 7:15 AM Daniel submitted the following: Just upgraded to SM 2.4.1 (i.e. tonight's the first run) on Mandriva Linux 2009.0 When I started up the browser by clicking the icon/whatever down in the bottom left of screen, instead of getting my five site Home Group, I'm just getting one page, which isn't in the Home Group (but may have been the last page I had open when I was in Win7 last night). Anybody else having this problem?? (and now I'm off to re-build my Home Group) Go to Edit/Preferences/Browser and click on 'home page' instead of 'last page visited' and then choose the file for your 'home page'. Well spotted, the two of you. Resetting to Home Page seems to have fixed the situation. Don't know how it got changed in the first place!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AllState Web Site
sean nathan bean wrote: Daniel sent me the following:: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Ant wrote: Snip I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch is. Edit-Preferences-Advanced-HTTP Networking. HTH sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing compatibility of Firefox 2.0 sean To quit advertizing compatibility of Firefox 2.0 simply untick the spot on the HTTP Networking page. QED! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
Tony Higgins wrote: I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14. What can I expect with upgrading to Version 2.3.3? I get constant reminders to upgrade. When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old location. It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks. Will this happen again? Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step instructions? Thanks, Tony Higgins I'm with you, Tony. I plan to stick to 2.014 and Win XP for a long time. I upgraded to 2.1 and did not like it at all. I always copy my current SeaMonkey files, including the ones in Documents Settings to a directory on another drive before messing with it. So I just uninstalled 2.l, re-installed 2.014 then without starting it up I copied all the files I had saved over on top of the re-installed ones and it was like nothing ever happened. I'm too old to learn another program when the one I have works fine for me. -- Gerald Ross What's a nice girl like you doing in a dirty mind like mine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: JD wrote: You replied to my reply to another person. You replied to my reply to Walter. If you don't know what upgrade to upgrade gave you problems, then it's hard to say what your next upgrade to upgrade will do. SeaMonkey is not Netscape. Click on Help, About SM. What is your current version? If your current version is 2.0.14, then the upgrade so 2.4.1 should be OK. If you have any problems with that upgrade, then post back to this newsgroup and somebody will try to help. Note: For the vast majority of users who have only one computer, this last bit of advice is not very helpful. It's like saying if your telephone isn't working, give us a call. Of course, most people have friends with working phones, but still, I hope you can see the irony. In the best of all possible worlds, we'd have a 24-hour toll-free help line. In the real world, troubleshooting is somewhat more difficult, and it's reasonable for someone who's just been burned to be cautious. This is why I begin by synching my desktop installation with my laptop, and upgrade the laptop only. If that proves troublesome, I still have a working desktop to complain from. If I'm satisfied that it works fine, only then do I take a chance and upgrade the desktop, knowing that I have a working laptop as a fallback. I have no other software whose upgrades I distrust so much; in 25 years of running PCs I've never had any other application lose major categories of data or become completely inoperable due to an upgrade. If it were some minor applet like Flash I'd blow it off, but SeaMonkey is absolutely central and essential to what I do in both business and personal life. Without it, I'd be out of business in a heartbeat. Are you offering to help Tony and Walter? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
You shouldn't experience any big issues upgrading. That said, some people have had weird issues, but most have been able to upgrade fine. My advice would be to back up your profile with MozBackup first in case you do have any problems. Then you can migrate that back up into the new version. This should not be necessary, but if something goes wrong you have an easy,no hacking, fix. That said you will see some nice new features in 2.4, better web compatibility and bug fixes, but you will also loose some old friends. Somewhere around 2.2 or so Seamonkey started to shift radically. Personally I think it started loosing some of the features I really liked and got buggy from 2.2 on, but also many annoying bugs were fixed. Unfortunately since Seamonkey is a small project that has to follow the FireFox/Thunderbird cores there was no way around this and to keep current in other ways we have to settle on this. Not good but it is the way it is. This said I am now holding on 2.3.3 and have not gone to 2.4.1 as I am hearing issues about 2.4.1 that worry me. I would wait till 2.4.2 or 2.5.1 if I were you since you are so out dated as of now anyway. Right now I'm skipping the 2.x.0 releases since the last few have not gone well. Rick On 10/4/2011 9:58 PM, Tony Higgins wrote: I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14. What can I expect with upgrading to Version 2.3.3? I get constant reminders to upgrade. When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old location. It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks. Will this happen again? Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step instructions? Thanks, Tony Higgins ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
hawker wrote: I am hearing issues about 2.4.1 that worry me. I would wait till 2.4.2 or 2.5.1 if I were you since you are so out dated as of now anyway. Right now I'm skipping the 2.x.0 releases since the last few have not gone well. What issues might those be? Are you sure there is going to be a 2.4.2? What makes you think there will be a 2.5.1 after 2.5 is released? The last few have gone very well for me. -- SeaMonkey Firefox Support http://support.mozilla.com and http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_%28Firefox%29 SeaMonkey Support http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community Stand Alone Profile Manager https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
Interviewed by CNN on 04/10/2011 22:58, Tony Higgins told the world: I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14. What can I expect with upgrading to Version 2.3.3? I get constant reminders to upgrade. Well, THE major feature change (which happened in 2.1) is the new Places bookmarks system (the same one that Firefox uses since version 3). This allows, among other things, full syncing of your bookmarks with other computers (and even phones) through Firefox Sync. There were also a few changes to the user interface -- new Add-Ons Manager and new Data Manager, for instance -- but those shouldn't directly impact your browsing. You get new Gecko versions, the same ones current Firefox versions are using, so page rendering is the same (and as fast as) new Firefox. For instance, Seamonkey (and Firefox) now pass the ACID 3 rendering test, Javascript is getting faster every version, and SM 2.4/FF 7 had some work done to use less memory. Oh, and also there's a built-in feature to send websites an user-agent string advertising Firefox compatibility. This means that most sites now treat Seamonkey as Firefox, instead of generic unknown brand X browser. Although I found that sometimes it's better to turn off that feature. When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old location. It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks. Will this happen again? Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step instructions? No, if you are already using SM 2.0.x, the upgrade can be done by simply installing the new version on top of the old (that is, by letting the installer use the defaults). There are only minor changes to the profile, not needing a full conversion like what happened in the 1.1 - 2.0 migration. So, no special procedures needed, at least in theory. Still, as has been pointed out, sometimes shit DOES happen, so it's a good idea to back up your profile beforehand. Also, if by some reason you decide to go back to the old version, it's best to have a non-upgraded profile to go back too. Known issues with the upgrade: - If you go directly from 2.0.x to 2.2 or higher, your downloads history is not migrated. Most users don't care about it, though (I don't, in fact I clear my downloads history regularly). If you are one of the few that DO care, you should download Seamonkey 2.1 and upgrade to it before doing the final upgrade to the current version. Otherwise, just go ahead with the latest version (manual or auto-update). - SOMETIMES the bookmarks are not converted correctly. But in most cases, the problems can be fixed manually with no special tools. The two most reported problems I have seen are: 1- Bookmarks are not converted at all (when you open the Bookmarks manager, you find it empty). Solution: from Bookmarks Manager, open Tools, Import HTML and import your bookmarks.html file. 2- Bookmarks are imported (you see plenty of your old bookmarks inside the Bookmarks Manager) but your Bookmarks toolbar is empty. Solution: look around in the Manager -- you will probably find a folder with all your old Toolbar bookmarks (I forget what it's called). Just move the bookmarks to the Bookmarks Toolbar folder. - Another frequent source of complaints regards add-ons (extensions) that no longer work. In most cases, the cause of this is that the add-on author did not update the compatibility version list of the add-on -- that is, the add-on CLAIMS it is not compatible with the new version, although in fact it works fine. The easy workaround for this problem is to install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter add-on, which disables add-on compatibility checking. Be aware that the Compatibility Reporter is not a panacea, though: some add-ons WON'T work correctly with the new versions. So exercise caution in the beginning. The most current version is 2.4.1. You will see some people telling you to stay clear of it, recommending some previous version. Let me dispel some of the fears. Yes, some people DID run into problems. I'm not dismissing their problems. But the plain truth is that the new versions -- EVERY new version -- have worked fine for the vast majority of users. I had only a couple minor hiccups myself (that Bookmarks toolbar thing I mentioned above, and the need for the Add-on Compatibility Reporter in order to use some of my extensions). -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Odyssey2. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
JD wrote: Are you offering to help Tony and Walter? I think you're new here, but if you'd been around for a while you'd know that I'm happy to offer solutions when I have them, and I mostly keep quiet when I don't. This isn't my job or profession, I'm just a power user, so there are limits to my expertise. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still getting pop-ups
On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Tom S. wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Open links meant to open a new window in: (x) The current tab/window [...] | 2 | Divert all links according to browser.link.open_newwindow, unless [...] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in the config editor (about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it is in a new small window instead of another tab. I can close it with Alt-F4 on the keyboard instead of using the mouse. Unless you change the first one (browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively allow more popups setting the second one (browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value of 2. Try such a configuration: browser.link.open_newwindow = 1 browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to use the back button to get to the source page. Thanks anyway. :-\ I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites. You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay.. http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Barry Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I posted yesterday: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/ If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
hawker wrote: This said I am now holding on 2.3.3 and have not gone to 2.4.1 as I am hearing issues about 2.4.1 that worry me. I would wait till 2.4.2 or 2.5.1 if I were you since you are so out dated as of now anyway. Right now I'm skipping the 2.x.0 releases since the last few have not gone well. I'm curious, what issues have you heard on 2.4.1 that worry you specifically. I know of only one real issue that we can pinpoint at this time. (I am working on an extension fix for it at this time as well) -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 04/10/2011 22:58, Tony Higgins told the world: I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14. What can I expect with upgrading to Version 2.3.3? I get constant reminders to upgrade. Well, THE major feature change (which happened in 2.1) is the new Places bookmarks system (the same one that Firefox uses since version 3). This allows, among other things, full syncing of your bookmarks with other computers (and even phones) through Firefox Sync. There were also a few changes to the user interface -- new Add-Ons Manager and new Data Manager, for instance -- but those shouldn't directly impact your browsing. You get new Gecko versions, the same ones current Firefox versions are using, so page rendering is the same (and as fast as) new Firefox. For instance, Seamonkey (and Firefox) now pass the ACID 3 rendering test, Javascript is getting faster every version, and SM 2.4/FF 7 had some work done to use less memory. Oh, and also there's a built-in feature to send websites an user-agent string advertising Firefox compatibility. This means that most sites now treat Seamonkey as Firefox, instead of generic unknown brand X browser. Although I found that sometimes it's better to turn off that feature. When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old location. It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks. Will this happen again? Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step instructions? No, if you are already using SM 2.0.x, the upgrade can be done by simply installing the new version on top of the old (that is, by letting the installer use the defaults). There are only minor changes to the profile, not needing a full conversion like what happened in the 1.1 - 2.0 migration. So, no special procedures needed, at least in theory. Still, as has been pointed out, sometimes shit DOES happen, so it's a good idea to back up your profile beforehand. Also, if by some reason you decide to go back to the old version, it's best to have a non-upgraded profile to go back too. Known issues with the upgrade: - If you go directly from 2.0.x to 2.2 or higher, your downloads history is not migrated. Most users don't care about it, though (I don't, in fact I clear my downloads history regularly). If you are one of the few that DO care, you should download Seamonkey 2.1 and upgrade to it before doing the final upgrade to the current version. Otherwise, just go ahead with the latest version (manual or auto-update). - SOMETIMES the bookmarks are not converted correctly. But in most cases, the problems can be fixed manually with no special tools. The two most reported problems I have seen are: 1- Bookmarks are not converted at all (when you open the Bookmarks manager, you find it empty). Solution: from Bookmarks Manager, open Tools, Import HTML and import your bookmarks.html file. 2- Bookmarks are imported (you see plenty of your old bookmarks inside the Bookmarks Manager) but your Bookmarks toolbar is empty. Solution: look around in the Manager -- you will probably find a folder with all your old Toolbar bookmarks (I forget what it's called). Just move the bookmarks to the Bookmarks Toolbar folder. - Another frequent source of complaints regards add-ons (extensions) that no longer work. In most cases, the cause of this is that the add-on author did not update the compatibility version list of the add-on -- that is, the add-on CLAIMS it is not compatible with the new version, although in fact it works fine. The easy workaround for this problem is to install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter add-on, which disables add-on compatibility checking. Be aware that the Compatibility Reporter is not a panacea, though: some add-ons WON'T work correctly with the new versions. So exercise caution in the beginning. The most current version is 2.4.1. You will see some people telling you to stay clear of it, recommending some previous version. Let me dispel some of the fears. Yes, some people DID run into problems. I'm not dismissing their problems. But the plain truth is that the new versions -- EVERY new version -- have worked fine for the vast majority of users. I had only a couple minor hiccups myself (that Bookmarks toolbar thing I mentioned above, and the need for the Add-on Compatibility Reporter in order to use some of my extensions). Thank you McBastos. You seem to be the only reply to offer concrete suggestions for Tony and me. With a background of being around computers since the RAMAC 305 in 1960, I consider myself somewhat acquainted with operating systems and changes in such. However, if there are people who have been through installations of changes, I will accept their help by the numbers and gladly be held by the hand when I make updates. But, on to the suggestions you made. They will be very useful when and if I
2.0.14 to 2.4.1?
Just to confirm, my wife can go directly from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1? Yes, we know about the adjustments we might need due to the advent of the Places format. (Asking because I went through the 2.3.x series, but she would have skipped that step.) Thanks for all advice! Larry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: I'm curious, what issues have you [hawker] heard on 2.4.1 that worry you specifically. I know of only one real issue that we can pinpoint at this time. (I am working on an extension fix for it at this time as well) Obviously I'm not Hawker, and I therefore can't answer on his/her behalf; neither can I easily identify any issues with Seamonkey 2.0.14 that could logically cause significant worries; but I do believe, quite sincerely, that once Seamonkey started tracking the rapid-release schedule of Firefox, and took on board many of the more radical changes that Firefox had already adopted (e.g., places.sqlite, open tabs rather than windows, ...), it lost the confidence of a significant fraction of its user community. I have continued to upgrade my primary machine as far as 2.3.3; I have kept my secondary machine at 2.0.14; but I no longer accept upgrades unconditionally, and I am no longer a Seamonkey advocate -- I no longer say to those still using Internet Explorer and Outlook Express ditch them : there is a /far/ better package that does what both of those do, seamlessly, and will offer you a /far/ superior environment within which to browse, send and receive e-mail). And I fear I am not alone in this. Others, too, on this list have expressed significant reservations about going beyond 2.0.14; they, too, are probably no longer vocal Seamonkey advocates. And I think that this is a great shame : Seamonkey was, and perhaps still is, a wonderful tool, preferable to IE, preferable to OE, to Firefox, to Thunderbird (except in the lack of a tool for identifying duplicate IMAP e-mails), to Opera, to Safari, to Konqueror. But it seems to some of us to have lost its way -- to have become little more than an undiscriminating beggar, eagerly snapping at whatever goodies Firefox and Gecko are currently offering, but no longer capable of being brave enough to go its own way whenever its own way would be preferable. I may be wrong; I hope I am; but this is a genuine expression of one person's opinion, for better or for worse. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still getting pop-ups
NoOp wrote: On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Tom S. wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Open links meant to open a new window in: (x) The current tab/window [...] | 2 | Divert all links according to browser.link.open_newwindow, unless [...] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in the config editor (about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it is in a new small window instead of another tab. I can close it with Alt-F4 on the keyboard instead of using the mouse. Unless you change the first one (browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively allow more popups setting the second one (browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value of 2. Try such a configuration: browser.link.open_newwindow = 1 browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to use the back button to get to the source page. Thanks anyway. :-\ I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites. You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay.. http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Barry Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I posted yesterday: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/ If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set. I get an empty window. There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock Plus extension. -- SeaMonkey Firefox Support http://support.mozilla.com and http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_%28Firefox%29 SeaMonkey Support http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community Stand Alone Profile Manager https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still getting pop-ups
On 10/05/2011 10:02 AM, WLS wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: ... You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay.. http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Barry Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I posted yesterday: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/ If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set. I get an empty window. There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock Plus extension. Yeah, it's often blank: http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php?ad_tag=Imageshack_Landing_pops2 I guess an advert only shows when someone pays for it :-) Either way, it's a consistant aggravation. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still getting pop-ups
NoOp wrote: Imageshack is famous for this. Well, what do you expect from a site that calls itself Images-hack ?! Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still getting pop-ups
On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Tom S. wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Open links meant to open a new window in: (x) The current tab/window [...] | 2 | Divert all links according to browser.link.open_newwindow, unless [...] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in the config editor (about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it is in a new small window instead of another tab. I can close it with Alt-F4 on the keyboard instead of using the mouse. Unless you change the first one (browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively allow more popups setting the second one (browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value of 2. Try such a configuration: browser.link.open_newwindow = 1 browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to use the back button to get to the source page. Thanks anyway. :-\ I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites. You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay.. http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Barry Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I posted yesterday: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/ If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set. I get an empty window. There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock Plus extension. I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having the image resized. Then I added http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php to my AdBlock Plus filters. Now I only get the initial window resized. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still getting pop-ups
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Tom S. wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Open links meant to open a new window in: (x) The current tab/window [...] | 2 | Divert all links according to browser.link.open_newwindow, unless [...] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in the config editor (about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it is in a new small window instead of another tab. I can close it with Alt-F4 on the keyboard instead of using the mouse. Unless you change the first one (browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively allow more popups setting the second one (browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value of 2. Try such a configuration: browser.link.open_newwindow = 1 browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to use the back button to get to the source page. Thanks anyway. :-\ I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites. You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay.. http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Barry Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I posted yesterday: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/ If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set. I get an empty window. There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock Plus extension. I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having the image resized. Then I added http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php to my AdBlock Plus filters. Now I only get the initial window resized. That works quite well, since the Addblock Plus pop-up add-on doesn't work with SeaMonkey, and shows you probably don't need it for Firefox, even though it does block the pop-up. ymmv -- SeaMonkey Firefox Support http://support.mozilla.com and http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_%28Firefox%29 SeaMonkey Support http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community Stand Alone Profile Manager https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0.14 to 2.4.1?
Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2011 13:37, Larry told the world: Just to confirm, my wife can go directly from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1? Yes, we know about the adjustments we might need due to the advent of the Places format. (Asking because I went through the 2.3.x series, but she would have skipped that step.) Yes, she can. Standard precautions apply: make a backup of her SM profile, just in case anything goes wrong. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my fax machine. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still getting pop-ups
On 10/05/2011 10:23 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote: NoOp wrote: ... Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I posted yesterday: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/ If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set. I get an empty window. There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock Plus extension. I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having the image resized. Then I added http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php to my AdBlock Plus filters. Now I only get the initial window resized. Did that and I still get the http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php?ad_tag=Imageshack_Landing_pops2 Cleared cach, etc., no cookies, and even tried in a different window. Adblock Plus is showing the http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php as being blocked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0.14 to 2.4.1?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2011 13:37, Larry told the world: Just to confirm, my wife can go directly from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1? Yes, we know about the adjustments we might need due to the advent of the Places format. (Asking because I went through the 2.3.x series, but she would have skipped that step.) Yes, she can. Standard precautions apply: make a backup of her SM profile, just in case anything goes wrong. Thank you! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Lost Bookmarks
Had computer repaired. When got computer home, was not able to access web via SeaMonkey, only MS Explorer. Since system files had to be replaced in the repair, I assumed that SeaMonkey may have been corrupted. So I uninstalled it and reinstalled it. All cookies, passwords, extensions, etc. were preserved, but all my bookmarks disappeared! Any suggestions on finding my lost bookmarks? Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Is this normal Seamonkey/ Lightning/CALdav
I have just updated my setup to Seamonkey 2.4.1 and Lightning 1.0beta7 I have added a CALdav calendar (eGroupware) and everything seems to work as expected except when I have my CALdav calendar selected no event notifications are sent. If I have the default Home Local Calendar selected then notifications are sent. Is this normal and can it be fixed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Bookmarks
Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2011 15:50, Palikari ATL told the world: Had computer repaired. When got computer home, was not able to access web via SeaMonkey, only MS Explorer. Since system files had to be replaced in the repair, I assumed that SeaMonkey may have been corrupted. So I uninstalled it and reinstalled it. All cookies, passwords, extensions, etc. were preserved, but all my bookmarks disappeared! Any suggestions on finding my lost bookmarks? I'm just guessing here, but... were you, by any chance, using Seamonkey version 2.0.x previously, and reinstalled with the most current version? If so, you may be having a case of failed conversion of the Bookmarks database. It happens sometimes when upgrading from 2.0.x to a newer release. Fortunately, the remedy for that is usually simple: Open your Bookmarks manager, go to Tools, Import HTML and import your bookmarks.html file. Note: if you were already using a more recent Seamonkey version, this solution might not be the best for you. If so, please supply more details. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Coleco Adam. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Bookmarks
On Oct 5, 3:00 pm, MCBastos myem...@example.invalid wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2011 15:50, Palikari ATL told the world: Had computer repaired. When got computer home, was not able to access web via SeaMonkey, only MS Explorer. Since system files had to be replaced in the repair, I assumed that SeaMonkey may have been corrupted. So I uninstalled it and reinstalled it. All cookies, passwords, extensions, etc. were preserved, but all my bookmarks disappeared! Any suggestions on finding my lost bookmarks? I'm just guessing here, but... were you, by any chance, using Seamonkey version 2.0.x previously, and reinstalled with the most current version? If so, you may be having a case of failed conversion of the Bookmarks database. It happens sometimes when upgrading from 2.0.x to a newer release. Fortunately, the remedy for that is usually simple: Open your Bookmarks manager, go to Tools, Import HTML and import your bookmarks.html file. Note: if you were already using a more recent Seamonkey version, this solution might not be the best for you. If so, please supply more details. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Coleco Adam. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.4 * Get it athttp://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla I was using the version, just before the most recent version 2.4.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
This statement almost perfectly reflects my feelings as well. I have been a hardcore Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey fan but for the first time I'm seriously considering leaving the sweet all together. The changes are not in areas I need and often break favorite features. I have seen more very annoying bugs lately (especially in 2.2x). I have certainly lost confidence in the product but am sticking with it for now. What is wrong with 2.4.1? Well for starters read Philip Chee's letter to this group from 9/29 at 6:16am What has changed that I don't like. I can't stand the new search with Google. I can't get previews in the left pain. I don't like the inline search popping up a box now. Then Mail is going downhill fast. 1) E-mail's composed in Word can no longer be cut and pasted into Seamonkey mail and be readable from outlook. 2) IMAP is in bad shape, can't get many attachments, often get blank e-mails, doesn't refresh right, looses e-mail etc. It does not play well with Exchange server at all. It used to play better in 1.x days and 2.0 days. On 10/5/2011 12:46 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: I'm curious, what issues have you [hawker] heard on 2.4.1 that worry you specifically. I know of only one real issue that we can pinpoint at this time. (I am working on an extension fix for it at this time as well) Obviously I'm not Hawker, and I therefore can't answer on his/her behalf; neither can I easily identify any issues with Seamonkey 2.0.14 that could logically cause significant worries; but I do believe, quite sincerely, that once Seamonkey started tracking the rapid-release schedule of Firefox, and took on board many of the more radical changes that Firefox had already adopted (e.g., places.sqlite, open tabs rather than windows, ...), it lost the confidence of a significant fraction of its user community. I have continued to upgrade my primary machine as far as 2.3.3; I have kept my secondary machine at 2.0.14; but I no longer accept upgrades unconditionally, and I am no longer a Seamonkey advocate -- I no longer say to those still using Internet Explorer and Outlook Express ditch them : there is a /far/ better package that does what both of those do, seamlessly, and will offer you a /far/ superior environment within which to browse, send and receive e-mail). And I fear I am not alone in this. Others, too, on this list have expressed significant reservations about going beyond 2.0.14; they, too, are probably no longer vocal Seamonkey advocates. And I think that this is a great shame : Seamonkey was, and perhaps still is, a wonderful tool, preferable to IE, preferable to OE, to Firefox, to Thunderbird (except in the lack of a tool for identifying duplicate IMAP e-mails), to Opera, to Safari, to Konqueror. But it seems to some of us to have lost its way -- to have become little more than an undiscriminating beggar, eagerly snapping at whatever goodies Firefox and Gecko are currently offering, but no longer capable of being brave enough to go its own way whenever its own way would be preferable. I may be wrong; I hope I am; but this is a genuine expression of one person's opinion, for better or for worse. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 04/10/2011 22:58, Tony Higgins told the world: I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14. What can I expect with upgrading to Version 2.3.3? I get constant reminders to upgrade. Well, THE major feature change (which happened in 2.1) is the new Places bookmarks system (the same one that Firefox uses since version 3). This allows, among other things, full syncing of your bookmarks with other computers (and even phones) through Firefox Sync. One thing to note additionally is that if you run a profile with SM 2.1 or later (including versions like 2.3.3 and current 2.4.1) and then go back to SM 2.0 for whichever reason, you will lose your browsing history and all changes made to bookmarks. In any case, please read (ideally before upgrading): http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.4/#issues https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/FAQ Otherwise, MCBastos pretty much summed up what needs to be done. If you need to find your profile location in order to back it up, see http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/profiles#location (with current SM versions, you can simply use Help/Troubleshooting Information). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
hawker wrote: This statement almost perfectly reflects my feelings as well. I have been a hardcore Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey fan but for the first time I'm seriously considering leaving the sweet all together. The changes are not in areas I need and often break favorite features. I have seen more very annoying bugs lately (especially in 2.2x). I have certainly lost confidence in the product but am sticking with it for now. I'm hoping I can find a solution to the confidence loss for all our users. In my experience we are getting better at stability and overall support thanks to all the core changes we are adopting when we can. That is not to behave as an excuse for any regressions our own team has introduced, nor as an explanation on why the UI changes are good, merely a point on stability. What is wrong with 2.4.1? Well for starters read Philip Chee's letter to this group from 9/29 at 6:16am What has changed that I don't like. I can't stand the new search with Google. I can't get previews in the left pain. Well you can switch search provider. (As for the sidebar issue you cite, I unfortunately don't know enough.) I don't like the inline search popping up a box now. For this, however there is a pref (assuming you mean search-in-existing-page)... you can go to Edit-Preferences - Advanced - Find as you type and *uncheck* the box for Show the find toolbar during find as you type Then Mail is going downhill fast. I'm sorry to hear that, most of our mail code is shared with Thunderbird. But we do still try to stay on top of mail issues. (I personally know very little about mail backend/code and am primarily a consumer like you with regard to it) 1) E-mail's composed in Word can no longer be cut and pasted into Seamonkey mail and be readable from outlook. Can you provide specific example of this (incl. screenshots) and/or a bug # for this so I can try and confirm/get a person on it. I have never liked using Word to pre-compose anything and always compose directly in mail. But that could surely use some investigation. 2) IMAP is in bad shape, can't get many attachments, often get blank e-mails, doesn't refresh right, looses e-mail etc. It does not play well with Exchange server at all. It used to play better in 1.x days and 2.0 days. I don't have an Exchange server to test with, but IMAP has and does work well for me with GMail. I do not get many attachements, but I do get some, and all the ones I have gotten seem to work fine for me. But as I said above a bug number and specifics would help us track down the issue here. ~Justin Wood (Callek) On 10/5/2011 12:46 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: I'm curious, what issues have you [hawker] heard on 2.4.1 that worry you specifically. I know of only one real issue that we can pinpoint at this time. (I am working on an extension fix for it at this time as well) Obviously I'm not Hawker, and I therefore can't answer on his/her behalf; neither can I easily identify any issues with Seamonkey 2.0.14 that could logically cause significant worries; but I do believe, quite sincerely, that once Seamonkey started tracking the rapid-release schedule of Firefox, and took on board many of the more radical changes that Firefox had already adopted (e.g., places.sqlite, open tabs rather than windows, ...), it lost the confidence of a significant fraction of its user community. I have continued to upgrade my primary machine as far as 2.3.3; I have kept my secondary machine at 2.0.14; but I no longer accept upgrades unconditionally, and I am no longer a Seamonkey advocate -- I no longer say to those still using Internet Explorer and Outlook Express ditch them : there is a /far/ better package that does what both of those do, seamlessly, and will offer you a /far/ superior environment within which to browse, send and receive e-mail). And I fear I am not alone in this. Others, too, on this list have expressed significant reservations about going beyond 2.0.14; they, too, are probably no longer vocal Seamonkey advocates. And I think that this is a great shame : Seamonkey was, and perhaps still is, a wonderful tool, preferable to IE, preferable to OE, to Firefox, to Thunderbird (except in the lack of a tool for identifying duplicate IMAP e-mails), to Opera, to Safari, to Konqueror. But it seems to some of us to have lost its way -- to have become little more than an undiscriminating beggar, eagerly snapping at whatever goodies Firefox and Gecko are currently offering, but no longer capable of being brave enough to go its own way whenever its own way would be preferable. I may be wrong; I hope I am; but this is a genuine expression of one person's opinion, for better or for worse. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Sync encountered an error...
the last three days i've been getting the following error message: Sync encountred an error while syncing: Unkown error. Synch will automatically retry this action. previously, i clicked the x and ignored it... now it pops up every 15 seconds... anyone else? or just me? sean -- In response to a reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across the street and wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the neighborhood. Dear Abby Responded... 'You could move.' courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sync encountered an error...
sean nathan bean wrote: the last three days i've been getting the following error message: Sync encountred an error while syncing: Unkown error. Synch will automatically retry this action. anyone else? or just me? Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:57:22 -0400, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: I'm getting lots of hangs with sm2.4 and the complaint is server messed up! Its a (now) known issue with the default Sync Server, Mozilla IT are working around the clock to try and correct it properly. Seehttps://services.mozilla.com/status/ for more. Network Timeout The operation timed out when attempting to contact services.mozilla.com. Most of Mozilla is sloow. Bugzilla, the Wiki. The NNTP server seems to be doing fine (but then it's actually Giganews). Phil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this normal Seamonkey/ Lightning/CALdav
On 10/05/2011 12:03 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote: I have just updated my setup to Seamonkey 2.4.1 and Lightning 1.0beta7 I have added a CALdav calendar (eGroupware) and everything seems to work as expected except when I have my CALdav calendar selected no event notifications are sent. If I have the default Home Local Calendar selected then notifications are sent. Is this normal and can it be fixed? Not sure as I only use an ical (US Holidays from Apple), but these pages may be of help: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:QA_CalDAV_Support http://wiki.davical.org/w/CalDAV_Clients/Mozilla_Calendar Your best bet will most likely be to ask on the mozilla.support.calendar group. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
A bunch of stuff snipped, answers in line below. In general the confidence issues are not only because of bugs but we don't like where the features are going. I realize you are a small team and often have to just adopt thunderbird/firefox code but often that means a loss of functionality to us or you don't have time to fully implement the functionality (such as the Thunderbird search features). On 10/5/2011 4:03 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: What has changed that I don't like. I can't stand the new search with Google. I can't get previews in the left pain. Well you can switch search provider. (As for the sidebar issue you cite, I unfortunately don't know enough.) The issue is not Google. The issue is how the built in side bar search works. I liked the old way, I don't like the new way. As I hear there is nothing that can be done about this, changed plug in types and the new one does not support the old features. I don't like the inline search popping up a box now. For this, however there is a pref (assuming you mean search-in-existing-page)... you can go to Edit-Preferences - Advanced - Find as you type and *uncheck* the box for Show the find toolbar during find as you type Glad to hear. Then Mail is going downhill fast. I'm sorry to hear that, most of our mail code is shared with Thunderbird. But we do still try to stay on top of mail issues. (I personally know very little about mail backend/code and am primarily a consumer like you with regard to it) 1) E-mail's composed in Word can no longer be cut and pasted into Seamonkey mail and be readable from outlook. Can you provide specific example of this (incl. screenshots) and/or a bug # for this so I can try and confirm/get a person on it. I have never liked using Word to pre-compose anything and always compose directly in mail. But that could surely use some investigation. Let me know better how I can provide this info for you. I think the bug is actually in outlook but since so many use outlook we have to comply. What happens is if I cut and paste out of Word (I often do when quoting documents) I can read it fine in Seamonkey, Android phone Windows 6.5 phone, Eudora, Thunderbird, etc. But anyone who tries to read it in Outlook sees the formatting commands such as end-iff as text not executed. For whatever reason older versions of Seamonkey did not do this. 2) IMAP is in bad shape, can't get many attachments, often get blank e-mails, doesn't refresh right, looses e-mail etc. It does not play well with Exchange server at all. It used to play better in 1.x days and 2.0 days. I don't have an Exchange server to test with, but IMAP has and does work well for me with GMail. I do not get many attachements, but I do get some, and all the ones I have gotten seem to work fine for me. But as I said above a bug number and specifics would help us track down the issue here. I don't use Gmail (concerned about privacy issues). IMAP with an exchange server just has tons and tons of issues. Tell me how I can specifically help you here. I would say I can't read 1/200 emails I get, especially when they come from Yahoo Groups. They come up blank. Often Attachments don't come. I think this has to do with the specific sending program. If I send an attachment from Eudora to Seamonkey I don't get it (but do in Exchange web interface and Outlook. Some MS functions that auto send attachments have the same issues, and a few other programs do as well. I'll have to read the headers next time it happens. I would say this is 10% of all my attachments. I also have lots of formatting inconsistencies. Looks fine in Outlook, not in Seamonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Restoring bookmarks for upgrade to 2.4.1
I started my computer this morning to find I had unwittingly upgraded from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1. Having experienced a recent trainwreck with the most recent version of S-M, I went back to one I knew worked, and was content to leave it there. It was a complete surprise to have Seamonkey open today in a version I never asked for, and never knowingly installed, but there it was. All bookmarks were gone, the password manager was empty, and I was stuck. So I closed the app down, reinstalled 2.0.14, and things worked again. Eventually I'll have to upgrade, but before I do, I really need to know how to retrieve and reactivate bookmarks and the password manager and so on. Before you answer, know that I'm running Mac OSX 10.6.8. All the advice on this topic I've found assumes you're running a Windows machine. I'm not, and that advice does not apply to my situation. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Attention: Users on older SeaMonkey Versions may be unable to update.
For those of you who are reading this and on a SeaMonkey version 2.1 through 2.3.0 you will be unable to currently update your version of SeaMonkey through automated means. (SeaMonkey 2.0.x did not have this update security measure, so is unaffected) WHY: Our secure certificate for updates, used to protect you, our users, from fraud and issues with the update had to be changed. The one we had expired and we were unable to renew it with the same information we baked into SeaMonkey by default. WHAT: We fixed this issue in our version 2.3.1, so if you have that version or newer you will not be affected. And no need to worry. WORKAROUND: You can manually install a new version from our website at www.seamonkey-project.org. Or apply our hotfix HOTFIX AVAILABLE: I have created a hotfix addon [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/SM-hotfix-update-cert/] you can install into your SeaMonkey to once again update to a newer version of SeaMonkey via our internal update mechanics. This hotfix currently requires a restart of SeaMonkey, though I do plan to update it in the future to be a restartless addon for the versions I am able to. NOTES: This is different than a confusing error that gets reported in versions from 2.3.1 and newer that indicates the update server is a wrong certificate. This error is reported whenever we check against our builtin list, and of course it finds the first one we have listed as incorrect and reports it. The next cert in line is found to be ok. So this error ends up being a false positive. Thank You, ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
Tony Higgins wrote: I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14. What can I expect with upgrading to Version 2.3.3? I get constant reminders to upgrade. When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old location. It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks. Will this happen again? Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step instructions? Thanks, Tony Higgins First Tony I am sorry you received so many sarcastic and bordering on rude comments. I will try to help you were I am able. Since I am using MacOS my advice may/may not be useful for you. Firstly when you upgrade to a version of SeaMonkey beyond 2.0.x such as 2.3.3 SeaMonkey will migrate your user profile to a new location. The profile migration takes place as new versions of Seamonkey have changed the way certain items are stored. Your bookmarks and passwords (I'm not sure if there are other items) are now stored in a database file. Using a database file allows the bookmarks to be more efficient and gain new functionality. Previously the bookmarks were stored in a html file (bookmarks.html). Please note that when the migration from your old profile to the new one, your old profile is only migrated. Your old profile is left unchanged and intact. Your bookmarks and passwords are still there in your old profile. Now once you begin to upgrade from 2.0.14 to 2.3.3 and you launch version 2.3.3 for the first time you will notice SeaMonkey going through the profile migration were all your profile information (bookmarks, passwords, email. etc.) is transferred to your new profile. I suspect if something goes wrong with the profile migration process you could delete all traces of the new profile and relaunch SeaMonkey 2.3.3 and let it go through the migration process again and hopefully your profile will be migrated correctly. AS ALWAYS HERE IS A WARNING BEFORE YOU BEGIN: make a backup Seamonkey 2.0.14 and your user profile (preferably on external media such as a CD or external hard disk). Now if anything goes wrong you can revert to you backup and recover SeaMonkey and you profile. After you backup SeaMonkey 2.0.14 and its profile launch SeaMonkey 2.3.3 and let it migrate your profile to the new file format and location. When the migration has finished SeaMonkey 2.3.3 should open and you should be able to use SeaMonkey. Good luck. I hope this helps. :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Links that never stop loading
I have some Forums that I go to often. Here is the main directory - I go to specific parts. http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/directory They seem to load forever and the saved login data does not appear. Sometimes I can just press the stop button (if is is not grayed out) and get the login data to appear. Other times, I press reload and it eventually allows login. I am guessing that this is due to all the crap adverts loading into the page not being available quickly. Am I too far off on that ? The adverts are not there once one logs in. Is this the way the forum is made or programmed ? Anyway - can I do anything about this with some switch or choice in the edit menu of SM ? Still using 1.1 slowly moving over to 2.0. Its not something that stops things up - just annoying. I wish I knew more about what causes it to happen. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3
Paul Bergsagel wrote: Firstly when you upgrade to a version of SeaMonkey beyond 2.0.x such as 2.3.3 SeaMonkey will migrate your user profile to a new location. The profile migration takes place as new versions of Seamonkey have changed the way certain items are stored. Your bookmarks and passwords (I'm not sure if there are other items) are now stored in a database file. Using a database file allows the bookmarks to be more efficient and gain new functionality. Previously the bookmarks were stored in a html file (bookmarks.html). Please note that when the migration from your old profile to the new one, your old profile is only migrated. Your old profile is left unchanged and intact. Your bookmarks and passwords are still there in your old profile. Incorrect, SeaMonkey 2.0.x to newer does not move your profile to a new location. SeaMonkey 1.x - 2.0.x does that though. SeaMonkey 2.0.x and newer use the exact same profile and profile location. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sync encountered an error...
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) sent me the following:: sean nathan bean wrote: the last three days i've been getting the following error message: Sync encountred an error while syncing: Unkown error. Synch will automatically retry this action. anyone else? or just me? Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:57:22 -0400, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: I'm getting lots of hangs with sm2.4 and the complaint is server messed up! Its a (now) known issue with the default Sync Server, Mozilla IT are working around the clock to try and correct it properly. Seehttps://services.mozilla.com/status/ for more. Network Timeout The operation timed out when attempting to contact services.mozilla.com. Most of Mozilla is sloow. Bugzilla, the Wiki. The NNTP server seems to be doing fine (but then it's actually Giganews). Phil clicking check server takes me to a page which tells me to check twitter... w/o giving me the twitter @ handle sean -- A file that big? It might be very useful. But now it is gone. courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restoring bookmarks for upgrade to 2.4.1
Paul wrote: I started my computer this morning to find I had unwittingly upgraded from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1. Having experienced a recent trainwreck with the most recent version of S-M, I went back to one I knew worked, and was content to leave it there. It was a complete surprise to have Seamonkey open today in a version I never asked for, and never knowingly installed, but there it was. All bookmarks were gone, the password manager was empty, and I was stuck. So I closed the app down, reinstalled 2.0.14, and things worked again. Eventually I'll have to upgrade, but before I do, I really need to know how to retrieve and reactivate bookmarks and the password manager and so on. Before you answer, know that I'm running Mac OSX 10.6.8. All the advice on this topic I've found assumes you're running a Windows machine. I'm not, and that advice does not apply to my situation. Using OSX 10.6.8 when I updated from 2.0.14 I had the same problem. I made a copy of the html file from the 2.0.14 profile put it on my desktop then imported it into 2.4.0 password manager. May be other ways to successfully import but this worked for me. To prevent unwanted upgrade go to Preferences/Advanced/Software Installation and Uncheck 'Allow websites to install updates' and 'Automatically check for updates' M ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
