Re: How to remove Bookmarks button from the toolbar using userChrome.css on Seamonkey 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread Philip Chee 
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:38:11 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>> Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] schrieb:
>>> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:57:28 -0800, Sailfish
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 My bloviated meandering follows what Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] graced us
 with on 11/30/2011 11:36 AM:
> Sailfish, you still hanging around? You helped me do this a while back
> in Firefox. Well, I tried using the same userChrome.css file I use for
> my Firefox 8 install but it doesn't hide the Bookmarks button on the
> toolbar for Seamonkey 2.5. Here's how userChrome looks currently:
>
 [snip /]
>
> I thought since Seamonkey 2.5 and Firefox 8 were "the same" that it
> would work but apparently now. Any clue on how to accomplish the same
> with Seamonkey 2.5?
>
 Adding #bookmarks-button to it ought to work.

 Good luck.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, is there also a similar one for the Most Visited button?
>>
>> Why does nobody try to just remove those entries by deleting them (Most
>> Visited) or using toolbar customization to move them away (bookmarks
>> button)? I guess you guys just want geeky solutions instead of easy ones...
>>
>> Robert Kaiser
>>
>>
> 
> One of the things that attracted me to Mozilla software in the first 
> place was "geeky" control over it that no other program really afforded. 
>   So, yeah, and that surely was Mozilla's user base until it decided to 
> dumb it down with the Firefox/Thunderbird strategy.
> 
> So, you can deride us users who like that fine control but you aren't 
> going to endear yourself to us by doing that.  Nor are the devs going to 
> appeal to readers of this newsgroup if they hew more toward the Firefox 
> mentality and away from the SeaMonkey spirit of letting users control 
> their computers and software.

I think Robert is deriding people who when faced with two or more
methods of solving a problem always choose the most difficult or most
involved/intricate one instead of opting for the easiest way.

Phil

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Re: Suggestions on moving from 2.0.14 to 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread Mike C 

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



MCBastos wrote:


Focusing on startup speed is like saying, "Wow, that car is fast! Just
0.3 seconds from unlocking the door to putting the engine in gear!"


Hang on, hang on : if this is going to go viral, let's get our
facts straight : it is the /car/ that is put in gear, not the
engine !

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Actually, it's the transmission that is put in gear (smile).
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Re: How to remove Bookmarks button from the toolbar using userChrome.css on Seamonkey 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread Ed Mullen 

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] schrieb:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:57:28 -0800, Sailfish
 wrote:


My bloviated meandering follows what Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] graced us
with on 11/30/2011 11:36 AM:

Sailfish, you still hanging around? You helped me do this a while back
in Firefox. Well, I tried using the same userChrome.css file I use for
my Firefox 8 install but it doesn't hide the Bookmarks button on the
toolbar for Seamonkey 2.5. Here's how userChrome looks currently:


[snip /]


I thought since Seamonkey 2.5 and Firefox 8 were "the same" that it
would work but apparently now. Any clue on how to accomplish the same
with Seamonkey 2.5?


Adding #bookmarks-button to it ought to work.

Good luck.


Incidentally, is there also a similar one for the Most Visited button?


Why does nobody try to just remove those entries by deleting them (Most
Visited) or using toolbar customization to move them away (bookmarks
button)? I guess you guys just want geeky solutions instead of easy ones...

Robert Kaiser




One of the things that attracted me to Mozilla software in the first 
place was "geeky" control over it that no other program really afforded. 
 So, yeah, and that surely was Mozilla's user base until it decided to 
dumb it down with the Firefox/Thunderbird strategy.


So, you can deride us users who like that fine control but you aren't 
going to endear yourself to us by doing that.  Nor are the devs going to 
appeal to readers of this newsgroup if they hew more toward the Firefox 
mentality and away from the SeaMonkey spirit of letting users control 
their computers and software.


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Re: Odd group behavior

2011-11-30 Thread Ed Mullen 

AmaliaMelendez23 wrote:

freelance writer




Geez, talk about "Odd"

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Re: Odd group behavior

2011-11-30 Thread AmaliaMelendez23 
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SM 2.5 - address dragging

2011-11-30 Thread JohnW-Mpls 

I just now experienced what someone mentioned in here a few days ago - in
SM2.5's address books section, the dragging of addresses from one book or
location to another is not functioning. Same thing happened to me at about
2.3 and was fixed for when I used 2.3.3.

Well, I want to split one address book into two so I started this message to
ask when dragging will be enabled in 2.5.   But then I thought: I'm dual
booting (XP & 7), SM 2.5 is under XP but Win7 is still at SM 2.3.3.  Both
SMs use the same profile so I went to W7 and was able to get all my dragging
done nicely.  Crazy world!


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Email "Remember this Password" no longer there SM 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread murman 

Hello all:

I created a new IMAP email account in SM mail 2.5, but when Getting 
Messages, and asked for a password, there is no longer a check box for 
"Remember this Password" so I have to enter it each time to get mail.

Mac OSX 10.5.8.

TIA for any advice! Love SeaMonkey
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Re: How to remove Bookmarks button from the toolbar using userChrome.css on Seamonkey 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread Robert Kaiser 

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] schrieb:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:57:28 -0800, Sailfish
  wrote:


My bloviated meandering follows what Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] graced us
with on 11/30/2011 11:36 AM:

Sailfish, you still hanging around? You helped me do this a while back
in Firefox. Well, I tried using the same userChrome.css file I use for
my Firefox 8 install but it doesn't hide the Bookmarks button on the
toolbar for Seamonkey 2.5. Here's how userChrome looks currently:


[snip /]


I thought since Seamonkey 2.5 and Firefox 8 were "the same" that it
would work but apparently now. Any clue on how to accomplish the same
with Seamonkey 2.5?


Adding #bookmarks-button to it ought to work.

Good luck.


Incidentally, is there also a similar one for the Most Visited button?


Why does nobody try to just remove those entries by deleting them (Most 
Visited) or using toolbar customization to move them away (bookmarks 
button)? I guess you guys just want geeky solutions instead of easy ones...


Robert Kaiser


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Re: How to remove Bookmarks button from the toolbar using userChrome.css on Seamonkey 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread Sailfish 
My bloviated meandering follows what Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] graced us 
with on 11/30/2011 11:36 AM:

Sailfish, you still hanging around? You helped me do this a while back
in Firefox. Well, I tried using the same userChrome.css file I use for
my Firefox 8 install but it doesn't hide the Bookmarks button on the
toolbar for Seamonkey 2.5. Here's how userChrome looks currently:


[snip /]


I thought since Seamonkey 2.5 and Firefox 8 were "the same" that it
would work but apparently now. Any clue on how to accomplish the same
with Seamonkey 2.5?


Adding #bookmarks-button to it ought to work.

Good luck.

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Re: Suggestions on moving from 2.0.14 to 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread Jens Hatlak 

WLS wrote:

On 11/29/2011 06:05 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

[Stand-alone profile manager]
So, just what are they trying to "fix"?


Startup performance. This is key to the FF guys (who are the driving
force behind this) since Chrome started pulling away.


Well, I guess I'm not getting faster startup using the stand alone
profile manager.


No, but you'll get faster startup times for FF when *not* 
starting/initializing any profile manager at all. That's the point.


HTH

Jens

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Re: automatically redirecting

2011-11-30 Thread Rick Merrill 

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

SM 2.5
"prevented this page from automatically redirecting to another page"

I still cannot find an Edit | Preferences way to tell SM 2.5 to
always "ALLOW" this redirect.


Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Content: "Warn me when web sites try to redirect or
reload the page". This is not selected by default, so chances are you set it 
yourself.

HTH

Jens



Thanks; you're right on all counts.  Who knew that "appearance" could
be so "fatal" under the right circumstances.


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Re: Compatiblilty Reporter makes Lightning calendar incompatible

2011-11-30 Thread Philip Chee 
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:40:49 -0800, flyguy wrote:
> I'm using SM 2.4.1 on an XP computer.
> 
> I installed the Addon Compatibility Reporter; after that, my Lightning 
> Calendar extension ceased to function, and it was reported at "not 
> compatible". I was using 1.0b7; it appears 1.0 was installed. A
> 
> What happened, and how do I recover? I can install 1.0b7 again, but how 
> about all my calendar entries?
> 
> I have backed up the folder labeled "calender-data". Can I install 
> Lightning 1.0b7 and replace the calendar-data file with the backed up 
> version?
> 
> Apparently, I completely misunderstand the function and purpose of the 
> Compatibility Reporter, as it did a lot more than "report". Just what is 
> it supposed to do?

According to https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Calendar/Calendar_Versions
1.0b7 should work with 2.4.1.

Not sure what is going on.

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Re: 2.4.1-0.2.1 x86_64 hang with mail

2011-11-30 Thread Lucas Levrel 

Le 29 novembre 2011, Patrick Begou a écrit :


I've a strange problem with seamonkey 2.4.1 x86_64.
System is OpenSuse x86_64 fresh install, with all updates.

I've dowgraded seamonkey to 2.0.14-0.2.1 x86_64 and all work fine.

I do not find anything with google (except some people having similar problem 
but without solution).


I guess you saw my posts in this group (Oct 6-7, "2.4.1 problems, part I: 
Mail crashes it all!").


If you launch from a terminal to see warnings and errors, and monitor 
memory usage, we'll compare problems!



Any idea where to start ?


Try installing by hand, not the suse packages. The official version works 
for WLS (see above mentionned thread). I didn't have time to try.


If it works -> bug report to Opensuse (+ post here to let us know !)

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Re: fill forms without menu?

2011-11-30 Thread EttaMercer 
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Re: Suggestions on moving from 2.0.14 to 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread Philip TAYLOR 



MCBastos wrote:


Focusing on startup speed is like saying, "Wow, that car is fast! Just
0.3 seconds from unlocking the door to putting the engine in gear!"


Hang on, hang on : if this is going to go viral, let's get our
facts straight : it is the /car/ that is put in gear, not the
engine !

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Re: Suggestions on moving from 2.0.14 to 2.5

2011-11-30 Thread MCBastos 
Interviewed by CNN on 29/11/2011 22:03, NoOp told the world:
> On 11/29/2011 03:59 PM, MCBastos wrote:

>> I agree with you. The sad thing, though, is for the average joe shmoe
>> the perceived "speed" in opening the first page seems more important
>> than actual speed. It's like saying, "wow, that car is fast! Just 0.3
>> seconds from unlocking the door to putting the engine in gear!"
> 
> That should be turned into a sig quote :-)

Feel free to adopt/adapt it. Well, let me provide a more sig-friendly
variation:

Focusing on startup speed is like saying, "Wow, that car is fast! Just
0.3 seconds from unlocking the door to putting the engine in gear!"


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