Re: FireBug extension in SeaMonkey ?

2012-02-19 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

WLS wrote:

On 02/18/2012 12:08 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

I had a question about some details of Joomla software that i submit in
the Joomla Forum.
A part of the answer was:
Generally, in these situations you could use the tool FireBug to inspect
elements and view the css entries.
The tool FireBug that is available in browsers such as FireFox and
Chrome could be used for this purpose.

I thinked that SeaMonkey was the nearly same browser as FireFox - and
expect to find the FireBug add-on for SeaMonkey.

BUT going on
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/tags/display/firebug?appid=59

Did not show me FireBug for SeaMonkey.
Show me FireBug for FireFox.

So  can i, and how can i: install FireBug into SeaMonkey ?

If not possible, i had to install FireFox on the same computer where
SeaMonkey is installed.
Are those installations completely independant ? and may i run both in
the same time ?

Any idea on how to solve my fireBug problem ?


Just installed Firebug 1.9.1 for Firefox from AMO, in SeaMonkey 2.7
with no problem.

All I did was click Add to Firefox.


BUT when i go to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firebug/
I can read: Not available for Firefox 2.7.2

I installed it and it looks ok - installed sucessfully - will see how to
use it now.

Thanks for your experience !!!


Probably because there was no FF 2.7.2 for it to be available for, just 
a SM 2.7.2!!


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Re: Does Linux SeaMonkey v2.7.2 have a chrome directory?

2012-02-19 Thread Ant

On 2/18/2012 9:25 PM PT, Philip Chee typed:


I cannot seem to find them in my Debian box's SM2 profile directory. I
did find IceWeasel (aka Firefox) v3.6.27's though. I am trying to edit
user*.css files.


By default, the /chrome/ directory does not exist, so you need to create
it before creating the files.


By default it should exist. However in the move to packing everything
into an omni.jar they got moved to omni.ja!/defaults/profile/chrome/

Someone needs to either not pack them in the omnijar or change the
profile initialization code to look there for the example files.


Do we need to file a bug report on this? My old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 has 
this folder/directory, and its two example files, in my old Windows XP 
Pro. SP3 and previous 2005's Debian machine for sure.

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Re: Recent updates

2012-02-19 Thread JAS
NoOp wrote:
 On 02/18/2012 08:49 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2012 00:05, JAS told the world:
 Why is it that the last few updates accessed from the check for
 updates downloads the entire new SM program instead of just the new
 updated files? Or is it that there are that many new changes in the
 program? Just wondering.
 Well, for anything *but* the most recent update, it will download the
 full install file. Mozilla (and Seamonkey) only offer a patch for the
 most recent update.

 For instance, if you waited too long to upgrade from 2.6.1 to 2.7, and
 when you did upgrade 2.7.1 had already been released, then you get the
 full download. Even if you are upgrading from 2.7.0 to 2.7.2, for that
 matter.

 (Why not download the consecutive patches instead? Well, because it
 doubles -- or triples -- the users' annoyance, for comparatively small
 savings in bandwidth).

 And... sometimes the patch download fails, and then Seamonkey (or
 Firefox, or Thunderbird) downloads the full upgrade as a fallback.

 The Firefox  Thunderbird updates were about 1.8MB each.


My last update to 2.7.2 was 21.6 mb and all went well with no problems.

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Please make possible to read Unicode Web addresses

2012-02-19 Thread gjikkl
I'd like SeaMonkey be able to read 
http%3A%2F%2Fi283.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk284%2Fdismadrosa13%2Fline.gif 
as http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/dismadrosa13/line.gif


Thanks.
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SM won't open again

2012-02-19 Thread ConnorsGenealogy
This is the second time when a new update happens, I can't open SM.  Someone 
kindly told how to shut off something on the Taskbar but I can't manage to do 
that this morning.  Can someone refresh my memory.  Thanks in advance.
 Pat Connors, Sacramento CA
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Re: Please make possible to read Unicode Web addresses

2012-02-19 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2012 14:52, gjikkl told the world:
 I'd like SeaMonkey be able to read 
 http%3A%2F%2Fi283.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk284%2Fdismadrosa13%2Fline.gif 
 as http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/dismadrosa13/line.gif

I didn't study the subject, but:
1. I expect that there are good security reasons for *not* doing that, and
2. I expect that this would go against the relevant web standards.

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Re: Please make possible to read Unicode Web addresses

2012-02-19 Thread Rufus

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2012 14:52, gjikkl told the world:

I'd like SeaMonkey be able to read
http%3A%2F%2Fi283.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk284%2Fdismadrosa13%2Fline.gif
as http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/dismadrosa13/line.gif


I didn't study the subject, but:
1. I expect that there are good security reasons for *not* doing that, and
2. I expect that this would go against the relevant web standards.



...as an aside, why does SM often change the ' and some other characters 
contained in the website name information in a Bookmark to what appear 
to be Unicode characters?  Most annoying.


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Re: SM won't open again

2012-02-19 Thread Pat Connors



This is the second time when a new update happens, I can't open SM.??Someone
kindly?told how to shut off something on the Taskbar but I can't manage to do
that this morning.? Can someone refresh my memory.? Thanks in advance.

Problem solved, 4.5 hours later!

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Re: SM won't open again

2012-02-19 Thread WLS
On 02/19/2012 03:26 PM, Pat Connors wrote:
 
 This is the second time when a new update happens, I can't open
 SM.??Someone
 kindly?told how to shut off something on the Taskbar but I can't
 manage to do
 that this morning.? Can someone refresh my memory.? Thanks in advance.
 Problem solved, 4.5 hours later!
 

So, thanks for sharing the fix.

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Bad script on nhl.com?

2012-02-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

What's up with this? Our fault or theirs?

Whenever I visit http://www.nhl.com, the site hangs, and SeaMonkey 
complains about the script 
http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18:18. I can 
never view the site if I tell it to continue; I can only recover by 
telling it to halt the script.


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Re: Please make possible to read Unicode Web addresses

2012-02-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/19/12 8:52 AM, gjikkl wrote:
 I'd like SeaMonkey be able to read 
 http%3A%2F%2Fi283.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk284%2Fdismadrosa13%2Fline.gif 
 as http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/dismadrosa13/line.gif
 
 Thanks.

That URI also does not work with Internet Explorer.  Both work when
non-ASCII characters are percent-encoded in the domain name, path, file,
query, and fragment but not as URI delimiters.  Your URI has
percent-encoding for the :// delimiters that are supposed to follow
the http, which is not allowed.

By the way, percent-encoding is not Unicode.

See RFC 3986 at ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3986.txt.  (You
might have to copy and paste the RFC's URI into your browser because of
bug #575376.)

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Re: Bad script on nhl.com?

2012-02-19 Thread Jim Taylor

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

What's up with this? Our fault or theirs?

Whenever I visit http://www.nhl.com, the site hangs, and SeaMonkey
complains about the script
http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18:18. I can
never view the site if I tell it to continue; I can only recover by
telling it to halt the script.

That page loads for me without error.  SeaMonkey 2.6.2 on 64Bit 
Windows 7  - Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2


However; unless you mistyped that link in your post they have changed 
it.  It does not have the :18 on the end of the v=5.18.  Here is the 
way it is not:


http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18;

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Re: Bad script on nhl.com?

2012-02-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/19/12 1:33 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 What's up with this? Our fault or theirs?
 
 Whenever I visit http://www.nhl.com, the site hangs, and SeaMonkey 
 complains about the script 
 http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18:18. I can 
 never view the site if I tell it to continue; I can only recover by 
 telling it to halt the script.
 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

I tried http://www.nhl.com with various settings.  I tried it with
FlashBlock enabled and disabled; with FlashBlock enabled, I had to
select the triangle icon to get the Flash video.  I tried it with
Advertise Firefox compatibility both disabled (my normal setting) and
enabled without seeing any difference.

Only when I disabled JavaScript was I unable to view everything.
However, the site did not hang SeaMonkey.

I do not see your problem.  Is it possible you have a bad plugin or
extension?

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Re: Please make possible to read Unicode Web addresses

2012-02-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

David E. Ross wrote:


On 2/19/12 8:52 AM, gjikkl wrote:

I'd like SeaMonkey be able to read
http%3A%2F%2Fi283.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk284%2Fdismadrosa13%2Fline.gif
as http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/dismadrosa13/line.gif

Thanks.


That URI also does not work with Internet Explorer.  Both work when
non-ASCII characters are percent-encoded in the domain name, path, file,
query, and fragment but not as URI delimiters.  Your URI has
percent-encoding for the :// delimiters that are supposed to follow
the http, which is not allowed.


Not so simple. On my IE 9, I couldn't get the flashing line until I 
replaced all percent encodings with the corresponding ASCII characters. 
I got a total rejection when the URI delimiter was percent-encoded, but 
as I worked my way down the chain, Photobucket kept telling me the image 
had been deleted until I finally replaced the last one, when it suddenly 
discovered it.


On the other hand, Wikipedia pages do generally work as long as the URI 
delimiter and domain name are not percent-encoded. So perhaps some 
servers are smarter than others.


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Re: Bad script on nhl.com?

2012-02-19 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

What's up with this? Our fault or theirs?

Whenever I visit http://www.nhl.com, the site hangs, and
SeaMonkey complains about the script
http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18:18. I
can never view the site if I tell it to continue; I can only
recover by telling it to halt the script.


Seamonkey 2.7.2; Win/7, 32-bit.  No hang.  Error console
tells me CSS is full of cr@p.

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Re: Bad script on nhl.com?

2012-02-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/19/12 3:07 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 What's up with this? Our fault or theirs?

 Whenever I visit http://www.nhl.com, the site hangs, and
 SeaMonkey complains about the script
 http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18:18. I
 can never view the site if I tell it to continue; I can only
 recover by telling it to halt the script.
 
 Seamonkey 2.7.2; Win/7, 32-bit.  No hang.  Error console
 tells me CSS is full of cr@p.
 
 Philip Taylor

##*??@!  I forgot that I usually check the HTML and CSS before trying a
problem page.

When submitted to the W3C HTML validator, http://www.nhl.com says it's
XHTML for a mobile (e.g., smart phone).  It has 9 XHTML errors.  I don't
know how important those errors might be for a smart phone.  I viewed
the page from a desktop PC.

The W3C CSS validator reported no CSS errors.  However, as P. Taylor
reported, the page generates many, many warnings about CSS in the
SeaMonkey Error Console.  The Error Console also reports many, many
non-CSS warnings and also one outright error in JavaScript.

The conclusion must be that the Web site is very poorly implemented and
is apparently intended for viewing only via a smart phone.

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SM 2.7 - Message Filter questions

2012-02-19 Thread chicagofan
1 - What happened to the ability to filter cross-posts in newsgroups? 
Is there a place I haven't looked yet, or a way to do it now? The text 
and pointers are so small now [for me], I may just be overlooking 
something. I'm trying commas now.


2 - Is anyone besides me finding that newsgroup message filters only 
work about 75% of the time in this version?


TIA... for any responses.
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Re: Recent updates

2012-02-19 Thread NoOp
On 02/19/2012 08:12 AM, JAS wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 02/18/2012 08:49 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2012 00:05, JAS told the world:
 Why is it that the last few updates accessed from the check for
 updates downloads the entire new SM program instead of just the new
 updated files? Or is it that there are that many new changes in the
 program? Just wondering.
 Well, for anything *but* the most recent update, it will download the
 full install file. Mozilla (and Seamonkey) only offer a patch for the
 most recent update.

 For instance, if you waited too long to upgrade from 2.6.1 to 2.7, and
 when you did upgrade 2.7.1 had already been released, then you get the
 full download. Even if you are upgrading from 2.7.0 to 2.7.2, for that
 matter.

 (Why not download the consecutive patches instead? Well, because it
 doubles -- or triples -- the users' annoyance, for comparatively small
 savings in bandwidth).

 And... sometimes the patch download fails, and then Seamonkey (or
 Firefox, or Thunderbird) downloads the full upgrade as a fallback.

 The Firefox  Thunderbird updates were about 1.8MB each.


 My last update to 2.7.2 was 21.6 mb and all went well with no problems.
 

That was my point... both Firefox and Thunderbird only required ~1.8MB
to upgrade from 10.0.1 to 10.0.2, SM required ~21MB to go from 2.7.1 to
2.7.2.


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Re: Recent updates

2012-02-19 Thread JAS
NoOp wrote:
 On 02/19/2012 08:12 AM, JAS wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 02/18/2012 08:49 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2012 00:05, JAS told the world:
 Why is it that the last few updates accessed from the check for
 updates downloads the entire new SM program instead of just the new
 updated files? Or is it that there are that many new changes in the
 program? Just wondering.
 Well, for anything *but* the most recent update, it will download the
 full install file. Mozilla (and Seamonkey) only offer a patch for the
 most recent update.

 For instance, if you waited too long to upgrade from 2.6.1 to 2.7, and
 when you did upgrade 2.7.1 had already been released, then you get the
 full download. Even if you are upgrading from 2.7.0 to 2.7.2, for that
 matter.

 (Why not download the consecutive patches instead? Well, because it
 doubles -- or triples -- the users' annoyance, for comparatively small
 savings in bandwidth).

 And... sometimes the patch download fails, and then Seamonkey (or
 Firefox, or Thunderbird) downloads the full upgrade as a fallback.

 The Firefox  Thunderbird updates were about 1.8MB each.


 My last update to 2.7.2 was 21.6 mb and all went well with no problems.

 That was my point... both Firefox and Thunderbird only required ~1.8MB
 to upgrade from 10.0.1 to 10.0.2, SM required ~21MB to go from 2.7.1 to
 2.7.2.


The update went without a problem and was over in less than 2 min. with
no loss of add ons. I was just curious if that was to be the norm from
now on. I am very please with SeaMonkey. I have Firefox and Thunderbird
on a flash drive [portable versions] but prefer to run SeaMonkey.

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Re: Recent updates

2012-02-19 Thread Daniel

NoOp wrote:

On 02/19/2012 08:12 AM, JAS wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 02/18/2012 08:49 PM, MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2012 00:05, JAS told the world:


Snip


That was my point... both Firefox and Thunderbird only required ~1.8MB
to upgrade from 10.0.1 to 10.0.2, SM required ~21MB to go from 2.7.1 to
2.7.2.



NoOp, I've just downloaded the Linux update to go from SM 2.7.1 to SM 
2.7.2 and it was only 238k.


Last night, I updated my Win7 SM and I'm thinking it was under 500k!

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Re: Bad script on nhl.com?

2012-02-19 Thread Daniel

Jim Taylor wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

What's up with this? Our fault or theirs?

Whenever I visit http://www.nhl.com, the site hangs, and SeaMonkey
complains about the script
http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18:18. I can
never view the site if I tell it to continue; I can only recover by
telling it to halt the script.


That page loads for me without error. SeaMonkey 2.6.2 on 64Bit Windows 7
- Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2)
Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

However; unless you mistyped that link in your post they have changed
it. It does not have the :18 on the end of the v=5.18. Here is the way
it is not:

http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18;

Jim


With or with-out the :18, I get a screen full of JS scripting.

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Re: Does Linux SeaMonkey v2.7.2 have a chrome directory?

2012-02-19 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:16:30 -0800, Ant wrote:
 On 2/18/2012 9:25 PM PT, Philip Chee typed:
 
 I cannot seem to find them in my Debian box's SM2 profile directory. I
 did find IceWeasel (aka Firefox) v3.6.27's though. I am trying to edit
 user*.css files.

 By default, the /chrome/ directory does not exist, so you need to create
 it before creating the files.

 By default it should exist. However in the move to packing everything
 into an omni.jar they got moved to omni.ja!/defaults/profile/chrome/

 Someone needs to either not pack them in the omnijar or change the
 profile initialization code to look there for the example files.
 
 Do we need to file a bug report on this? My old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 has 
 this folder/directory, and its two example files, in my old Windows XP 
 Pro. SP3 and previous 2005's Debian machine for sure.

By all means file a bug unless one has already been filed. Getting
someone who understands how to fix this however may be somewhat more
involved.

Phil

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Re: Recent updates

2012-02-19 Thread Chris Ilias

On 12-02-19 8:58 PM, _JAS_ spoke thusly:


The update went without a problem and was over in less than 2 min. with
no loss of add ons. I was just curious if that was to be the norm from
now on. I am very please with SeaMonkey. I have Firefox and Thunderbird
on a flash drive [portable versions] but prefer to run SeaMonkey.


If I understand correctly, if you try to update from 2.7.1 to 2.7.2, it 
tries to grab the partial update first. If for any reason it fails to 
get the partial update, it falls back to the complete download.


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Re: Location of Default browser GUI option in the 2.0pre builds?

2012-02-19 Thread GayleCHAMBERS
freelance writer


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Re: Bad script on nhl.com?

2012-02-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

What's up with this? Our fault or theirs?

Whenever I visit http://www.nhl.com, the site hangs, and SeaMonkey
complains about the script
http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18:18. I can
never view the site if I tell it to continue; I can only recover by
telling it to halt the script.


That page loads for me without error. SeaMonkey 2.6.2 on 64Bit Windows 7
- Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2)
Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

However; unless you mistyped that link in your post they have changed
it. It does not have the :18 on the end of the v=5.18. Here is the way
it is not:

http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/js/_icev3-plugins.min.js?v=5.18;

Jim


With or with-out the :18, I get a screen full of JS scripting.


Yes. This is the script SM is complaining about, not the page I'm trying 
to visit.



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