Re: problems with media at FoxNews.com?

[NoOp]

On 03/16/2012 06:38 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 03/16/2012 05:16 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
...
>> 
>> Your 2.8 is the i686 version, is your 2.7.2 also?  As you can see from 
>> above, mine is the x86_64 version.  Perhaps a problem that only shows 
>> itself in 64 bit releases?
> 
> I switched to my 64bit machine & backed down to:
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2)
> Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
> 
> No issues w/fox.com (video, photos, etc).
> 
>> 
>> The 2.8 release has not yet been posted to the repository I use, so it 
>> may be a few days yet before I see if that fixes the problem.
>> 
>> Dave
> 
> If you are waiting for Joe, you may be waiting for quite some time. He
> got frustrated with the 'team' and he's changed his workstations over to
> Fedora. Recommend that you download directly from Mozilla and run in a
> home folder.
> 
> Gary
> 

Now back on 2.8:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0)
Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
Still no issues w/foxnews.com.
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Re: problems with media at FoxNews.com?

[NoOp]

On 03/16/2012 05:16 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 03/15/2012 09:22 PM, Jay O'Brien wrote:
>>> Hello, anyone else having this problem? I agree that the FoxNews pages
>>> are as the OP described. They were fine last week.
>>
>> No issues with:
>>
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
>> Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
>> Note: also no issues with 2.7.2 (linux and Windows)
>>
>>>
>>> What to do?
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "David H. Durgee"
>>> Date: 3/13/2012 9:31 AM
>>> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>>>
>>> I am running SeaMonkey 2.7.2 [Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux
>>> x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2] here
>>> on Linux Mint 11 Katya - x64 edition.  I am finding that slideshows and
>>> videos are not working on FoxNews.com here.  The slideshows are blank
>>> and the videos are black.  I have FlashBlock 1.3.18 installed, but I am
>>> NOT seeing the symbol indicating a flash media is available to play.  I
>>> have also tried using FireFox with this after disabling FlashBlock and
>>> am still unable to deal with this.
>>>
>>> About the only similar thing I recall is that I needed to install
>>> Stylish to override something on soundcloud to allow media to be played
>>> there, as the FlashBlock button was being positioned out of sight.  Is
>>> there something peculiar about what FoxNews is doing with these media
>>> that is causing problems for me?  Am I the only one seeing this problem?
>>>
>>> Dave
> 
> Your 2.8 is the i686 version, is your 2.7.2 also?  As you can see from 
> above, mine is the x86_64 version.  Perhaps a problem that only shows 
> itself in 64 bit releases?

I switched to my 64bit machine & backed down to:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2)
Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

No issues w/fox.com (video, photos, etc).

> 
> The 2.8 release has not yet been posted to the repository I use, so it 
> may be a few days yet before I see if that fixes the problem.
> 
> Dave

If you are waiting for Joe, you may be waiting for quite some time. He
got frustrated with the 'team' and he's changed his workstations over to
Fedora. Recommend that you download directly from Mozilla and run in a
home folder.

Gary

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Re: problems with media at FoxNews.com?

[David H. Durgee]

NoOp wrote:

On 03/15/2012 09:22 PM, Jay O'Brien wrote:

Hello, anyone else having this problem? I agree that the FoxNews pages
are as the OP described. They were fine last week.


No issues with:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
Note: also no issues with 2.7.2 (linux and Windows)



What to do?

Jay


From: "David H. Durgee"
Date: 3/13/2012 9:31 AM
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

I am running SeaMonkey 2.7.2 [Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux
x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2] here
on Linux Mint 11 Katya - x64 edition.  I am finding that slideshows and
videos are not working on FoxNews.com here.  The slideshows are blank
and the videos are black.  I have FlashBlock 1.3.18 installed, but I am
NOT seeing the symbol indicating a flash media is available to play.  I
have also tried using FireFox with this after disabling FlashBlock and
am still unable to deal with this.

About the only similar thing I recall is that I needed to install
Stylish to override something on soundcloud to allow media to be played
there, as the FlashBlock button was being positioned out of sight.  Is
there something peculiar about what FoxNews is doing with these media
that is causing problems for me?  Am I the only one seeing this problem?

Dave


Your 2.8 is the i686 version, is your 2.7.2 also?  As you can see from 
above, mine is the x86_64 version.  Perhaps a problem that only shows 
itself in 64 bit releases?


The 2.8 release has not yet been posted to the repository I use, so it 
may be a few days yet before I see if that fixes the problem.


Dave
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almost there!!!

[km]

... I HAVE THE MESSAGE BODIES ZOOMED RIGHT.
 BUT NOW NEED TO KNOW how to zoom the headers???

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Re: Extensions, Themes, Ad-Ons - Broken

[Michael Gordon]

Jim Taylor wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have been a long time user of the Mozilla Suite since Netscape
Communicator.
I have enjoyed customizing my browser to enhance work flow and
productivity.

This last update to 2.8 broke all my ad-ons and has reverted back to a
non-productive graphical web browser.

I have tried downgrading to version 2.7 and they are all still broken.

Is there any help in restoring these ad-ons?

Michael G


For anybody to help they will need to know the OS (looks like maybe
Windows XP from your header), what addons broke and what are the
indications (fail compatibility check, won't load, load and won't run,
etc).

First thing to try is disable all of them using the addon manager,
restarting SeaMonkey and enabling just one of them in case one of them
is causing all the problems.


Lets start with the OS: Windoes XP sr3
The ad-ons are already disabled, they were after installing SM 2.8
There seems no way to enable an ad-on even after editing the install.rdf 
file to be compatible with SM 2.9


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Re: Extensions, Themes, Ad-Ons - Broken

[Jim Taylor]

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have been a long time user of the Mozilla Suite since Netscape
Communicator.
I have enjoyed customizing my browser to enhance work flow and
productivity.

This last update to 2.8 broke all my ad-ons and has reverted back to a
non-productive graphical web browser.

I have tried downgrading to version 2.7 and they are all still broken.

Is there any help in restoring these ad-ons?

Michael G


For anybody to help they will need to know the OS (looks like maybe 
Windows XP from your header), what addons broke and what are the 
indications (fail compatibility check, won't load, load and won't run, 
etc).


First thing to try is disable all of them using the addon manager, 
restarting SeaMonkey and enabling just one of them in case one of them 
is causing all the problems.

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Re: my bad, my bad

[Walter]

Walter wrote:

Walter wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 3/15/2012 12:11 PM Walter submitted the following:

Equipment: HP desktop, Win 7, 6 gb memory, 750 gb hard drive, SM 2.7.2

Several months ago I found and used a program/plugin to print my
password file
with passwords in the clear. Since then I have added more passwords
and changed
some. OK, I will run that program again, says I. Not so easy, what
was name of
it and where did I get it? Never fear, Google knows. Thing is, Google
knows too
much so I don't know which program/plugin I used. One of the Google
finds was
LastPass, the so-touted answer to all my questions and needs. OK,
load and run.
Somewhere in the options there must be a way to do what I need but I
can't find
it. I try this-n-that and end up with a big mess with SM mail and
newsgroups
asking for a password every time I try to access either one. I check
the
settings for e-mail and newsgroups and do not find any obvious
problems. Use
workaround by entering passwords to get to mail and newsgroups. Even
now, I get
a request about every 10 minutes asking for a "password for news
server access".
No matter what I enter, (or nothing,) it is accepted and things go on.

Two e-mail accounts, xxx@localtvserver and xxx@gmail

Two newsgroup accts, m.s.seamonkey and news.eternal-september.org

I know the above is rather long and possibly very confusing but I
need help and
advice, thanking all in advance.

Walter.




Go to:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm



Save the page. Open the saved page in your browser.

It works with SM 2.8




That is it! Now my problem is that there are only 4 domains
there with their passwords. What did I do to lose the rest of them?

David,

I will try your suggestion later. The grocery store calls.

w




OK, now I have lost those four. I am hopelessly lost in a sea of 0s and
1s. Would it do any good to do a system restore from a couple of weeks
back while doing a Ccleaner?

w



To continue this saga: I reloaded and installed FastPass and this time I 
carefully read the instruction book to try to understand where I went 
wrong the first time. I did import the file with passwords, etc. and 
found that most of the data that I need is there, along with duplicates 
which I deleted. As I understood the instructions, now I can upload this 
file via Firefox and all will be well. I went in circles a few rounds 
and never found the place to click to actually import the data via 
FIrefox to the SM file. Another option was to print the file but again I 
never found the place to click to do that.


Any FastPass users in this group who could hold my hand in this problem, 
suggesting where I went wrong again?


w

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Extensions, Themes, Ad-Ons - Broken

[Michael Gordon]

I have been a long time user of the Mozilla Suite since Netscape 
Communicator.

I have enjoyed customizing my browser to enhance work flow and productivity.

This last update to 2.8 broke all my ad-ons and has reverted back to a 
non-productive graphical web browser.


I have tried downgrading to version 2.7 and they are all still broken.

Is there any help in restoring these ad-ons?

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Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?

[Jens Hatlak]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

OK, I have no idea of what "M.D.A.Seamonkey" is a contraction,


I referred to the mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup which is used for 
SeaMonkey development coordination. As Chris already wrote, there's also 
a mailing list access option for that.



Hmm, I don't feel this is serious enough. It doesn't seem anything
stops working through this. Actually I'm trying to /reduce/ the
amount of things we list under Known Issues. Sure, the easiest way
would be to fix this issue, but until that happens, what's the impact
of this issue on users other than being an annoying?


what exactly did you mean by "reduce". Do you mean "fix the issues,
so they can be removed from the list", or "filter the recorded
issues in terms of their impact as perceived by the developers" ?


Rather the latter. Fixing the listed issues is often out of my hands (as 
I tend to prioritize things that are both listed there and possible for 
me to fix), so I can only try to keep them in view and nag those who are 
actually able to fix them (like in the case of the busy cursor issue, 
which seems to be caused by a back-end change).


If you look at the current list, I tend to remove the DOM Inspector, 
Lightning, GMail and Synaptic touchpad issues sooner than later because 
there's not much we (SM devs) can do about it and I don't really feel 
they are too important.


Personally I'd also remove things that have been around for so long now 
that they are a FAQ case by now and unlikely to be resolved any time 
soon (like the MailNews account wizard news-type issue and the locked 
profile crash issue), but I guess some users will find it there better 
than on the FAQ page (alone).


The actual reason why I want to reduce the list is because I think that 
the longer the list, the lower the probability that people will actually 
read it completely. And if people skip reading it, they'll flood the 
support channels with redundant questions, which is bad for everyone 
(the requestors have to wait longer to get an answer, and supporters 
have less time to address problems that better deserved their attention 
- not to name helpful developers who have less time to actually fix some 
issues).



I hope very much that you meant the former, because the latter looks
ominously like papering over the cracks in a manner that one /might/
associate with proprietary software but which seems very much at
odds with the open-source philosophy on which Seamonkey is predicated.


We're not papering over anything. In an open project, that's not going 
to work anyway. You know, the Known Issues list is just a (technically 
redundant) mirror of high-profile issues, maintained in order to spare 
end users the hassle of searching Bugzilla (e.g. for the "relnote" 
keyword, which is the basis of what gets listed). Bugzilla, as you know, 
is not filtered/censored (ignoring security-related issues).


The actual issue tracker is Bugzilla, and there are *tons* of issues 
that can only be found through Bugzilla (or maybe Google). The Known 
Issues list is by no means complete (never was, never will be). Either 
way, some group of people will always have to make the call which things 
deserve to get listed and which not. Current practice is that anyone can 
nominate (through setting the "relnote" keyword, accompanied by some 
reasoning comment, or only the latter), then I as website module owner 
(or some other Council member) decides whether it sticks, and in the end 
every bug that has "relnote" set shall be added to Known Issues. Plus 
any extra ones I deem worthy (using common sense).


HTH

Jens

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Re: Moving SeaMonkey Data and/or Profile Files to a Different Drive

[Frog]

Frog wrote:

Daniel,

I am a happy person right now--I kept trying to make this work and I
succeeded on the third try. I will now turn my attention to the
questions Larry asked and the responses made to his messages. I may be
back with more questions later on this exchange.

A big, big thank you for your help.

Frog


P.S.
Is it now a good idea to delete C profile folder--the one that was 
copied to my E drive?


Also, is it a good idea to delete my old profile?

Assuming the new E drive performs as expected, I have no reason to 
return to my old profile or the related folder on the C drive.



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SM 2.8 Mac...may sit this one out...

[Rufus]

...due to interface breaks.  Bummer.  I've already submitted bug 735946 
on the problem of SM not exiting Minimize, but just noticed this today 
as well, and added the below comment to the bug -


"Noticed in addition today that not only does the above occur, but that 
when SM is already in the Open state and a link is clicked in another 
Space, that does not bring the Space containing SM to front - i.e.; if I 
click a link in an e-mail in Space 1 and SM is open in Space 2, the OS 
does not switch to Space 2 even though the link is opened in a new tab 
in SM per my preference setting.


Again - this was working in SM 2.7.2; broken in SM 2.8."

I use Spaces heavily, and this non-OS standard behavior is a really 
notable annoyance that can be solved by going back to 2.7.2.  And waiting...


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Re: problems with media at FoxNews.com?

[NoOp]

On 03/15/2012 09:22 PM, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> Hello, anyone else having this problem? I agree that the FoxNews pages 
> are as the OP described. They were fine last week.

No issues with:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
Note: also no issues with 2.7.2 (linux and Windows)

> 
> What to do?
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> From: "David H. Durgee" 
> Date: 3/13/2012 9:31 AM
> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
> 
> I am running SeaMonkey 2.7.2 [Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux 
> x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2] here 
> on Linux Mint 11 Katya - x64 edition.  I am finding that slideshows and 
> videos are not working on FoxNews.com here.  The slideshows are blank 
> and the videos are black.  I have FlashBlock 1.3.18 installed, but I am 
> NOT seeing the symbol indicating a flash media is available to play.  I 
> have also tried using FireFox with this after disabling FlashBlock and 
> am still unable to deal with this.
> 
> About the only similar thing I recall is that I needed to install 
> Stylish to override something on soundcloud to allow media to be played 
> there, as the FlashBlock button was being positioned out of sight.  Is 
> there something peculiar about what FoxNews is doing with these media 
> that is causing problems for me?  Am I the only one seeing this problem?
> 
> Dave
> 

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Re: FireBug

[Ray_Net]

Jens Hatlak wrote, On 16/03/2012 00:32:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote, On 15/03/2012 23:16:

Ray_Net wrote:

After doeing some research i modify in about:config:
extensions.firebug.showFirstRunPage set to FALSE.


This should be set automatically by FB version 1.9.x. For FB 1.10,
only the next alpha version will contain a fix, but those versions are
only experimental and to be used by testers using SM trunk anyway.

So i should wait until FB 1.11 ?


Not necessarily. It will depend on which SM version(s) FB 1.10 will be 
compatible with once that branch gets stable. I tested the latest FB 
alphas with SM trunk (2.10 back then, 2.11 now), but maybe FB 1.10 
will work with SM 2.8 (current stable), too. All I can tell you is 
that the current FB 1.10 pre-releases are not ready/recommended for 
production use.


Thanks, but no need to go further ... My problem is solved see infos 
from Sebastian in issue

http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=5334
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Re: Moving SeaMonkey Data and/or Profile Files to a Different Drive

[Frog]

Daniel,

I am a happy person right now--I kept trying to make this work and I 
succeeded on the third try.  I will now turn my attention to the 
questions Larry asked and the responses made to his messages.  I may be 
back with more questions later on this exchange.


A big, big thank you for your help.

Frog
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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[W3BNR]

On 3/16/2012 2:49 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
> On 3/15/2012 4:12 PM NoOp submitted the following:
>> Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
>> a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
>> text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur
>> when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?
>>
>> Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:
>> 
>>
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
>> Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
>> But also happens with the Windows version.
> 
> YES.  Win XP-Pro  Build ID Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2)
> Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
> 

Dangit - I changed back to 2.7.2 and forgot.  I meant 2.8 in previous msg.

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[W3BNR]

On 3/15/2012 4:12 PM NoOp submitted the following:
> Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
> a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
> text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur
> when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?
> 
> Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:
> 
> 
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
> Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
> But also happens with the Windows version.

YES.  Win XP-Pro  Build ID Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2)
Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[Rufus]

NoOp wrote:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur
when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
But also happens with the Windows version.


I haven't been seeing this in the Mac version, but I am seeing an issue 
where SM no longer automatically returns to Open state from Minimize to 
Dock on opening a file from the Finder or clicking a link in an e-mail. 
 I've submitted a bug on that.


Sounds like there are some odd interface issues running around in 2.8, 
apparently different ones for different platforms.


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Re: Moving SeaMonkey Data and/or Profile Files to a Different Drive

[Frog]

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

I just finished going through a very traumatic event...having to
replace
my C Drive information with data from a September 11, 2011 backup. My
biggest loss during this change was my SeaMonkey
messages...bookmarks...addresses...and I'm sure more that I haven't
noticed at this time.


QUESTION
Is it possible to move SeaMonkey data/profile files to a drive other
than my C drive? I currently have all of SeaMonkey loaded on my C
drive.
My hard drive is partitioned into two drives--C and E. I would like to
move the above mentioned information/files to my E drive that contains
all of my other data files.

How does one accomplish such a move without making a total wreck of my
computer?

Also, what are the pros and cons of making such a move? What happens
when a new version is loaded on my computer?


Any thoughts, recommendations, guidance, or simple "how-to"
instructions
will be greatly appreciated.

Windows XP Pro SP3 SeaMonkey Version 2.7.2


Frog


Yes, Frog, it isat one time I had my Windows set up so that C: only
had Windows system stuff, D: had programs and E: had all my user stuff
such as SeaMonkey Profile stuff.

1. Have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, and select
Server Settings for your email accounts. This is where you profile is
now.

2. Close SeaMonkey.

3. Use your File Manager to create a folder at the new location you want
to have your profile. You may have noted your current profile location
has something like drfbghy.default in its route, it is not necessary to
have this, you could make the new location as simple as D:Profile or
even just D: (not recommended).

4. Go to the location that currently has your profile

5. Copy everything from this location to the new location.

6. Restart SeaMonkey, select Tools->Manage Profiles->Manage
Profile->Create Profile and, on the second screen, Give your new profile
a distinctive names and then select "Choose Folder" and go to where you
copied your profile to.

Report back if you have any problems.



Daniel,

The more that I look into moving my profile to another location the more
I'm not sure what will happen when that action is taken. My present
situation is attributable to the lack of knowledge on my part...pure and
simple. Let me describe for you what I am seeing and why I am not sure
of what the outcome will be of this action.

I completed step one of your instructions, and here is what I found:

C:\Documents and Settings\Frog\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ef6mjiq9.default\incoming.verizon.net

I decided to visit this location using Windows Explorer and found the
following: (F- = Folder)

F-Mozilla
F-Extensions
F-{String of numbers/letters.}
f-ho...@tomtom.com
F-Profiles
F-Frog-SeaM
F-g64n48iz.slt
F-chrome
F-Mail
F-News
F-SeaMonkey
F-Crash Reports
F-pending
F-Submitted
F-Profiles
F-ef6mjiq9.default
F-bookmark backups
F-chrome
F-extensions
F-{String of numbers/letters.}
F-{String of numbers/letters.}
F-Mail
F-incoming.verizon.net
F-Local Folders
F-Archives.sbd
F-Trash.sbd
F-minidumps
F-News
F-msnews.microsoft
F-news
F-news.mozilla.org
F-weave
F-changes
F-toFetch
F-OLD5v3u71bc.default

The first "F-Profile" folder relates to an old version of SeaMonkey that
remains on my computer. This profile is seldom used and would not be a
great loss of data if it was ever lost. Thus, I'm not attempting to move
this profile from my C drive to my E drive. I note an entry under this
profile that pertains to TomTom (my GPS device). I believe it would be
difficult to change the location of this entry, as it would involve
making changes to the TomTom setup settings (something I don't know how
to accomplish).

Starting at the "F-SeaMonkey" folder is the area that I would like to
move from my C drive to my E drive. I want to have all of my messages
downloaded to my E drive, and I want all of my addresses/bookmarks also
moved to my E drive. Additionally, I want to have all of my newsgroup
activities taking place on my E drive.

Now for my need for some clarification--- What of the above do I copy
and paste to my new folder on my E drive? I think it would be from
F-SeaMonkey (my profile name)through F-toFetch. Is that correct?

Now, hoping that I have everything copied correctly to my new folder on
my E drive, I am supposed to create a new profile, correct? Assuming
Yes, I will give it a name other than any profile currently in use on my
system, correct? Once that is done, I will then select "choose Folder"
and go to where I copied the information from my C to E drive. If all of
that is correct, and I don't do something wrong, I should then have all
of my SeaMonkey folders active on my E drive. Question - What happens to
my old profile named SeaMonkey at its original location? Do I delete
this profile, or will it be needed sometime in the future? Will new
versions of SeaMonkey know where to find the new location for this
profile?

I suppose I am hesitant to proceed without knowing w

Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[NoOp]

On 03/16/2012 05:35 AM, Herrmann Hofer wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
>> a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
>> text body.
> 
> Well, isn't that  ?

Yes, that looks to be the one. Thanks.

Gary

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Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?

[Chris Ilias]

On 12-03-16 8:55 AM, _Philip TAYLOR_ spoke thusly:

Jens Hatlak wrote:


Changes, especially core code ones, are usually only discussed in
the respective Bugzilla bugs, or maybe in some cases in meetings that
I don't attend (don't know). For SM changes it's similar (except the
meetings part); if developers are likely to disagree or need feedback
on technical aspects, the m.d.a.seamonkey newsgroup will be the place
of further discussion (unless it's somehow confidential, for which we
have mailing lists with a limited audience). For user facing changes
that cannot be turned off (happens rarely for SM-only code),
discussion might happen here (but no guarantee).


OK, I have no idea of what "M.D.A.Seamonkey" is a contraction,


https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-seamonkey :)

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Will not Import 2012 email message

[Oda Stout]

Just install Seamonkey, program will not import 2012 email messages from 
Thunderbird folders.  Any ideas on how to fix this.  I enjoyed using 
Thunderbird but could not use browser in latest edition. Thanks.

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Re: Moving SeaMonkey Data and/or Profile Files to a Different Drive

[Larry S.]

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

I just finished going through a very traumatic event...having to
replace
my C Drive information with data from a September 11, 2011 backup. My
biggest loss during this change was my SeaMonkey
messages...bookmarks...addresses...and I'm sure more that I haven't
noticed at this time.


QUESTION
Is it possible to move SeaMonkey data/profile files to a drive other
than my C drive? I currently have all of SeaMonkey loaded on my C
drive.
My hard drive is partitioned into two drives--C and E. I would
like to
move the above mentioned information/files to my E drive that
contains
all of my other data files.

How does one accomplish such a move without making a total wreck
of my
computer?

Also, what are the pros and cons of making such a move? What happens
when a new version is loaded on my computer?


Any thoughts, recommendations, guidance, or simple "how-to"
instructions
will be greatly appreciated.

Windows XP Pro SP3 SeaMonkey Version 2.7.2


Frog


Yes, Frog, it isat one time I had my Windows set up so that C:
only
had Windows system stuff, D: had programs and E: had all my user stuff
such as SeaMonkey Profile stuff.

1. Have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, and select
Server Settings for your email accounts. This is where you profile is
now.

2. Close SeaMonkey.

3. Use your File Manager to create a folder at the new location you
want
to have your profile. You may have noted your current profile location
has something like drfbghy.default in its route, it is not
necessary to
have this, you could make the new location as simple as D:Profile or
even just D: (not recommended).

4. Go to the location that currently has your profile

5. Copy everything from this location to the new location.

6. Restart SeaMonkey, select Tools->Manage Profiles->Manage
Profile->Create Profile and, on the second screen, Give your new
profile
a distinctive names and then select "Choose Folder" and go to where
you
copied your profile to.

Report back if you have any problems.


This is half OT. I've had problems with the last several SM updates
with
the result that I wind up with a new profile which is missing all my
saved data. Is there a way to recover a saved copy from an external HD
and use it, without having to keep the external HD running all the time
so the copy can be my "other" profile)? It should be blindingly
obvious,
but somehow I'm missing it.

Advice greatly appreciated.

Larry


Yes, there is, Larry.

e.g. SeaMonkey keeps your received emails in one file called "inbox".
There is also an index file called "inbox.msf", which is not needed as a
new one is created when needed.

If you have an "inbox" file on your external drive, rename it so that it
does not write over the top of your current "inbox".

In SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings,
select "Server Settings" on your Mail Account and note the "Local
Directory" location. Under this location, you will find your current
"inbox". Copy your renamed inboxes to this location.

Restart SeaMonkey, and you should now see all the additional inboxes in
your mail profile. The new index files will be created when you access
the new inboxes.

HTH.


Very helpful! That does let me recover any "missing" mail, but it
doesn't keep me from having to recreate all my mail and news accounts
from scratch before I copy the file.

Guess there's no easy way to recover the entire profile. Bummer!

Thank you for the advice, though, as I wouldn't have just instinctively
known that.

Larry


Larry, when you say "entire profile", what else do you mean?? What
didn't you save on your back-ups??


Daniel . . .

I mean a folder called "8ax81hjl.default", which resides in a Profiles 
folder which is in the SeaMonkey folder. It contains folders: Mail, 
News, bookmarkbackups, chrome, extensions, several others, plus around 
50 or so other files. It's what I understand to be my entire "profile".

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[GerardJan]

Zanqeutil wrote:

Herrmann Hofer schreef:

NoOp wrote:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body.


Well, isn't that  ?



Thanks for pointing to this bug.

Bug 727414 - Get busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news

I use Seamonkey as my primary newsreader, but with version 2.8 this
irritating behaviour makes it useless and unworkable as a newsreader.

So I may go back to SM 2.7.2 if there is no fix available.

Regards,

Zanqeutil


i am on 2.7.1 now

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[Zanqeutil]

Herrmann Hofer schreef:

NoOp wrote:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body.


Well, isn't that  ?



Thanks for pointing to this bug.

Bug 727414 - Get busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news

I use Seamonkey as my primary newsreader, but with version 2.8 this 
irritating behaviour makes it useless and unworkable as a newsreader.


So I may go back to SM 2.7.2 if there is no fix available.

Regards,

Zanqeutil
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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[JAS]

Herrmann Hofer wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
>> a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
>> text body.
>
> Well, isn't that  ?
I am having the same problem since I upgraded to SM 2.8 from Sm 2.7.2
and it is very annoying. I am using Win XP PRO and have never changed
any fonts. The problem at times does not start at the onset of reading
the messages I have in the newsgroup but all at once will start and then
it is present in all mail not just the newsgroup. I have to shut down
the composer and then restart it for it to go away but then it is back
in due time.

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[GerardJan]

Daniel wrote:

Zanqeutil wrote:

GerardJan schreef:

Zanqeutil wrote:

NoOp schreef:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I
get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the
message
text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not
occur
when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0)
Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
But also happens with the Windows version.



Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM
2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3.

It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon
cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait
cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0
SeaMonkey/2.8

I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize).
When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I
click
a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring.
Sometimes the stop button is greyed out.

I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show
this behaviour.

Regards,

Zanqeutil



In Fedora you can set your font´s contrast as in RedHat



Your answer makes no sence, I don't use Linux and our problem has
nothing to do with font settings. It's a SM 2.8 newsgroup problem.

Zanqeutil


Gerardjan sometimes answers an un-asked question. At other times he can
ramble, or even (very rarely) supply some useful information.



s/ramble/pasear

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Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?

[Philip TAYLOR]

Jens Hatlak wrote:


For the latter part: That's because we don't do that. It would
probably bring development to a full halt (and I think it already is
way too slow, but I wouldn't be surprised if we disagreed about
that).



Ideas for future versions are usually discussed in Bugzilla bugs or
on SeaMonkey Status Meetings (which happen in the open on IRC, and we
 provide meeting notes on the wiki).

Changes, especially core code ones, are usually only discussed in
the respective Bugzilla bugs, or maybe in some cases in meetings that
I don't attend (don't know). For SM changes it's similar (except the
meetings part); if developers are likely to disagree or need feedback
on technical aspects, the m.d.a.seamonkey newsgroup will be the place
of further discussion (unless it's somehow confidential, for which we
have mailing lists with a limited audience). For user facing changes
that cannot be turned off (happens rarely for SM-only code),
discussion might happen here (but no guarantee).


OK, I have no idea of what "M.D.A.Seamonkey" is a contraction,
but as I read neither Usenet news nor IRC I am clearly excluded
(by my own choice) from many of your deliberations.  However,
I would like to ask you one specific question : when you wrote
(in another context)


Hmm, I don't feel this is serious enough. It doesn't seem anything
stops working through this. Actually I'm trying to /reduce/ the
amount of things we list under Known Issues. Sure, the easiest way
would be to fix this issue, but until that happens, what's the impact
of this issue on users other than being an annoying?


what exactly did you mean by "reduce".  Do you mean "fix the issues,
so they can be removed from the list", or "filter the recorded
issues in terms of their impact as perceived by the developers" ?
I hope very much that you meant the former, because the latter looks
ominously like papering over the cracks in a manner that one /might/
associate with proprietary software but which seems very much at
odds with the open-source philosophy on which Seamonkey is predicated.

Philip Taylor
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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[Herrmann Hofer]

NoOp wrote:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body.


Well, isn't that  ?
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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[Daniel]

Zanqeutil wrote:

GerardJan schreef:

Zanqeutil wrote:

NoOp schreef:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I
get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur
when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
But also happens with the Windows version.



Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM
2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3.

It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon
cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait
cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0
SeaMonkey/2.8

I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize).
When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I click
a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring.
Sometimes the stop button is greyed out.

I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show
this behaviour.

Regards,

Zanqeutil



In Fedora you can set your font´s contrast as in RedHat



Your answer makes no sence, I don't use Linux and our problem has
nothing to do with font settings. It's a SM 2.8 newsgroup problem.

Zanqeutil


Gerardjan sometimes answers an un-asked question. At other times he can 
ramble, or even (very rarely) supply some useful information.


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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[Zanqeutil]

GerardJan schreef:

Zanqeutil wrote:

NoOp schreef:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur
when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
But also happens with the Windows version.



Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM
2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3.

It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon
cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait
cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0
SeaMonkey/2.8

I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize).
When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I click
a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring.
Sometimes the stop button is greyed out.

I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show
this behaviour.

Regards,

Zanqeutil



In Fedora you can set your font´s contrast as in RedHat



Your answer makes no sence, I don't use Linux and our problem has 
nothing to do with font settings. It's a SM 2.8 newsgroup problem.


Zanqeutil
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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[Daniel]

NoOp wrote:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur
when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
But also happens with the Windows version.


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) 
Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8


Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads "SM 2.8 + Newsgroup 
Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey"

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[GerardJan]

Zanqeutil wrote:

NoOp schreef:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur
when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
But also happens with the Windows version.



Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM
2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3.

It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon
cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait
cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0
SeaMonkey/2.8

I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize).
When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I click
a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring.
Sometimes the stop button is greyed out.

I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show
this behaviour.

Regards,

Zanqeutil



In Fedora you can set your font´s contrast as in RedHat

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Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor

[Zanqeutil]

NoOp schreef:

Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get
a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message
text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur
when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

Screenshot of what I am talking about is here:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
But also happens with the Windows version.



Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM 
2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3.


It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon 
cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait 
cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email.


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 
SeaMonkey/2.8


I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize).
When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I click
a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring.
Sometimes the stop button is greyed out.

I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show 
this behaviour.


Regards,

Zanqeutil

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kyocera

[GerardJan]

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Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1

[GerardJan]

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/26/12 3:12 AM, Daniel wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Thanks for that, Jens..Are you suggesting that if version 6 of an
extension/Add-on is available for FF, but version 4 is the latest
available for SM, we SM users will get sent to the FF ver 6 page??


AFAIK that's the case, yes. AMO bug, if you want.

Greetings,

Jens



O.K., my "thick-headedness" in operation!

Jens, are you suggesting it is an A.M.O. bug, already, or are you
suggesting I should log an A.M.O. bug on Bugzilla??


I beat you to it. Bug #720886 at
.



O.K., I was thinking it was just a Browser sniffing thing, and I am
tonight using my WOW64 Win7 version of SeaMonkey:-
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2)
Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

and figured that, as there was no mention of (any version of) Firefox,
maybe I'd end up with the right page for BetterPrivacy, but, alas, no,
still went to the Firefox page on AMO.

Any other ideas, anyone?



O.k., back on Linux SeaMonkey 2.7.2 (with update to 2.8 already
downloaded), so found the BetterPrivacy link upthread:-
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/
clicked it and I still went to the Firefox version.

Clicked Help->About Plug-ins and it showed I had Version:
Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22 installed.

In the header for the About Plug-ins page, it has a link for
mozilla.org/plugincheck. Clicking this takes me to a Firefox page and
clicking Update there takes me to an Adobe page offering Ver 11 which
I've now downloaded and will install over the week-end and see how we go.



Daniel, how can i get the Déjavu plugin for my backup USB disk?

sincerely


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