Re: Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-05 Thread David B.

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

...and if you could fix this one, I'd be *ever* so greatfull -

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724296

--
- Rufus



Hey, I'd be really grateful, too. It drives me nuts sometimes! ;-)

Especially so when I'm looking down at my keyboard typing (!) away, then
look up at the screen and discover my text is not in the message but,
instead, in the drop-down 'enter password' box! Grrr!

Thanks for bringing this up, Rufus


What's even worse is when it happens during a download and SM freezes,
you have to Force Quit, and loose the whole session...grrr-squared!


Hi Rufus

Are you saying that when you are in the process of downloading 
/anything/ from the Internet when the password box drops down (or pops 
up, whichever!s) that SM disrupts everything?


I far too often get a 'spinning beach ball' (computer working hard)- do 
you think that SM could be the cause? I'd not tied the two events together!


Out of interest, what kind of Apple machine do you have?

David

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread Keith Whaley

Ed Mullen wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.



Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry bugs.

Michael G




Geez. http://www.armadilloweb.com/

Horrible contrast choices. Give me some contrast, ok? Sheesh, blue on
blue, awful. Can't read it. It's just horrible, visually. Can't get past
the visual to the content. And I am actually interested in Austin
stuff. This is horrible.


Ed, I agree with you.
Especially the left side menu items.
In the first place, black on dark blue is a difficult read all by 
itself, but when you do a mouse-over, the text in the menu items changes 
to white text on a light blue bar. Almost totally unreadable.


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Re: SeaMonkey Help is back�with screencasts!

2012-04-05 Thread Desiree

Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote in message 
news:dk-dnsb-39vseohsnz2dnuvz_vodn...@mozilla.org...
 On 12-04-04 7:05 AM, Desiree wrote:
 Chris Iliasn...@ilias.ca  wrote in message
 news:n6-dnelbeqww2obsnz2dnuvz_oodn...@mozilla.org...
 There should be a play icon embedded over top of the image. If you click
 on the image, the screencast should start. Does the play icon not 
 appear?
 If it doesn't appear, does clicking on the image still start the
 screencast?

 To get it to start, I have to click on the tiny icon in the bottom left
 corner of the screen. That is obscured until I mouse over it and way to
 small to see what those icons stand for. But when I figured out how to do
 it, it worked fine.

 The controls are actually provided by your browser (in this case, 
 SeaMonkey). The next planned release of SeaMonkey (for later this month) 
 actually has changes that greatly improve HTML video controls.
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.9/
 HTML5 videos that do not start automatically show a large play button 
 now.

That is good to know.

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Re: SeaMonkey Help is back�with screencasts!

2012-04-05 Thread Desiree

Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote in message 
news:dk-dnsb-39vseohsnz2dnuvz_vodn...@mozilla.org...
 On 12-04-04 7:05 AM, Desiree wrote:
 Chris Iliasn...@ilias.ca  wrote in message
 news:n6-dnelbeqww2obsnz2dnuvz_oodn...@mozilla.org...
 There should be a play icon embedded over top of the image. If you click
 on the image, the screencast should start. Does the play icon not 
 appear?
 If it doesn't appear, does clicking on the image still start the
 screencast?

 To get it to start, I have to click on the tiny icon in the bottom left
 corner of the screen. That is obscured until I mouse over it and way to
 small to see what those icons stand for. But when I figured out how to do
 it, it worked fine.

 The controls are actually provided by your browser (in this case, 
 SeaMonkey). The next planned release of SeaMonkey (for later this month) 
 actually has changes that greatly improve HTML video controls.
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.9/
 HTML5 videos that do not start automatically show a large play button 
 now.

Just wanted to comment further that your site should explain all this. Many 
of us will NOT be upgrading SM, or any other browser, for a variety of 
reasons. (1) I refuse to use a browser that will automatically play embedded 
video (althugh I suppose I can disable it about:config but why not just use 
a better browser version that avoids the crap)? I don't think currently that 
the proxomitron will stop this but I am sure we will have a filter when this 
becomes widespread (as we have long had a toggle switch for Flash so 99.9% 
of Flash is never played and certainly never any with ads). HTML5 is poised 
to become even  more vicious and nasty than Flash ever was.

(2) I just looked into upgrading 2.6 SM to 2.8. I will not do so because my 
extensions will not work. My extensions working is far more important than 
what version of SM I use. Besides, the ONLY reason I started using SM again 
was because it did not seem to be going insane like Fx with constant 
updates.  But now I have Fx 10 Enterprise (on a guest machine) and will stay 
with it probably long beyond the official year. I didn't upgrade from Fx 1.5 
until March 2011 on the host and still use Fx 4 on my host machine.  Not 
everyone blindly believes the latest is the greatest.

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Re: suddenly getting plugin ... blocked message, with no pointer to to what do

2012-04-05 Thread Daniel

Dan B. wrote:


All of the sudden today I'm getting the message This plugin has been
blocked
for your protection when I try to use the applet on the page at
http://javaboutique.internet.com/lines/. (It worked fine yesterday.)

The message doesn't say anything about why the plugin was blocked.

It also doesn't say anything about the user can do about it. (E.g.,
there's no pointer to whatever preference setting might be relevant.)

In fact, that message doesn't even say _which_ plugin was blocked!

The page has, or at least had, a Java applet, and other supposedly-Java-
applet pages show the same symptom, so apparently the message is
referring to about the Java plugin.


So why would SeaMonkey be blocking the Java plugin? And what can be
done to fix that?


Thanks,
Daniel



From one Daniel to another.

Daniel, do you actually have Java installed, today??

I don't and your page offered to get it for me!

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Close buttons on all tabs

2012-04-05 Thread Nemo
Seamonkey 2.8
I want to have close buttons on all tabs, active or not. I would be 
grateful for an about:config or userChrome.css tweak.
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Re: Close buttons on all tabs

2012-04-05 Thread Nemo
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:35:57 -0500, Nemo wrote:

 Seamonkey 2.8
 I want to have close buttons on all tabs, active or not. I would be
 grateful for an about:config or userChrome.css tweak.

According to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButtons, a 
setting of 1 (in about:config) should do it, at least for Firefox. Is 
Seamonkey different?
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Re: Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-05 Thread Rufus

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

...and if you could fix this one, I'd be *ever* so greatfull -

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724296

--
- Rufus



Hey, I'd be really grateful, too. It drives me nuts sometimes! ;-)

Especially so when I'm looking down at my keyboard typing (!) away, then
look up at the screen and discover my text is not in the message but,
instead, in the drop-down 'enter password' box! Grrr!

Thanks for bringing this up, Rufus


What's even worse is when it happens during a download and SM freezes,
you have to Force Quit, and loose the whole session...grrr-squared!


Hi Rufus

Are you saying that when you are in the process of downloading
/anything/ from the Internet when the password box drops down (or pops
up, whichever!s) that SM disrupts everything?



Yes.  Total lockup - I can't even cancel or acknowledge the Password 
request...I have to Force Quit SM from the Finder and loose the session.



I far too often get a 'spinning beach ball' (computer working hard)- do
you think that SM could be the cause? I'd not tied the two events together!



I don't get that, unless there are a huge number of posts for Mail to 
download from a Newsgroup.  That's to be expected.  When the above 
happens the rest of my machine doesn't lock up or stall though.  Just SM.



Out of interest, what kind of Apple machine do you have?

David



I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel 
Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.


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Re: suddenly getting plugin ... blocked message, with no pointer to to what do

2012-04-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/4/12 9:31 PM, Dan B. wrote:
 
 All of the sudden today I'm getting the message This plugin has been blocked
 for your protection when I try to use the applet on the page at
 http://javaboutique.internet.com/lines/.  (It worked fine yesterday.)
 
 The message doesn't say anything about why the plugin was blocked.
 
 It also doesn't say anything about the user can do about it.  (E.g.,
 there's no pointer to whatever preference setting might be relevant.)
 
 In fact, that message doesn't even say _which_ plugin was blocked!
 
 The page has, or at least had, a Java applet, and other supposedly-Java-
 applet pages show the same symptom, so apparently the message is
 referring to about the Java plugin.
 
 
 So why would SeaMonkey be blocking the Java plugin?  And what can be
 done to fix that?

Windows XP SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8
Java J2SE RTE 6 update 31 (file version 6.0.310.5)

I do not see this problem.  However, I did see something about an
emergency fix to Firefox that blocks older versions of Java because of a
security vulnerability.  See
http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/924622.  This might also
apply to SeaMonkey.

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Re: suddenly getting plugin ... blocked message, with no pointer to to what do

2012-04-05 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 05/04/2012 01:31, Dan B. told the world:
 
 All of the sudden today I'm getting the message This plugin has been blocked
 for your protection when I try to use the applet on the page at
 http://javaboutique.internet.com/lines/.  (It worked fine yesterday.)
 
 The message doesn't say anything about why the plugin was blocked.
 
 It also doesn't say anything about the user can do about it.  (E.g.,
 there's no pointer to whatever preference setting might be relevant.)
 
 In fact, that message doesn't even say _which_ plugin was blocked!
 
 The page has, or at least had, a Java applet, and other supposedly-Java-
 applet pages show the same symptom, so apparently the message is
 referring to about the Java plugin.
 
 
 So why would SeaMonkey be blocking the Java plugin?  And what can be
 done to fix that?

I don't know specifically about Seamonkey, but this could be the recent
Java block the Firefox guys implemented. Since Seamonkey's innards are
the same as Firefox's, I expect the Firefox block affects Seamonkey too.

Basically, it was found that Java had an humongous security hole. Worse,
this security hole was already being actively exploited on the wild. The
hole was plugged in Java 6 update 31.

So, update your Java plugin and it should work again.

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use will be prosecuted under the DMCA.

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Re: Close buttons on all tabs

2012-04-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/5/12 5:17 AM, Nemo wrote:
 On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:35:57 -0500, Nemo wrote:
 
 Seamonkey 2.8
 I want to have close buttons on all tabs, active or not. I would be
 grateful for an about:config or userChrome.css tweak.
 
 According to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButtons, a 
 setting of 1 (in about:config) should do it, at least for Firefox. Is 
 Seamonkey different?

This does not seem to work for SeaMonkey 2.8 unless my test was incorrect.

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Re: Close buttons on all tabs

2012-04-05 Thread Jens Hatlak

Nemo wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:35:57 -0500, Nemo wrote:


Seamonkey 2.8
I want to have close buttons on all tabs, active or not. I would be
grateful for an about:config or userChrome.css tweak.


According to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButtons, a
setting of 1 (in about:config) should do it, at least for Firefox. Is
Seamonkey different?


Yes, that pref won't help you, it's FF-only. Neither won't any other 
pref or CSS tweak do; SM simply doesn't include this functionality by 
default. Instead, install the following add-on:


http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey/extensions-seatabx.html

HTH

Jens

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Lost Calendar, to do list, Tasks etc

2012-04-05 Thread Saviour
Hi, Since UG to 2.8 I have lost the Calendar I had in SM Mail. Also
Seamonky wants to be the default browsers.
Not sure if I'm that impressed with SM.  Also. when you used to open
SM, the mail would open as well. Now, I cannot open mail unless I want
to send a msg.
Help, Please.

Andy
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Re: Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-05 Thread David B.

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

...and if you could fix this one, I'd be *ever* so greatfull -

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724296

--
- Rufus



Hey, I'd be really grateful, too. It drives me nuts sometimes! ;-)

Especially so when I'm looking down at my keyboard typing (!) away,
then
look up at the screen and discover my text is not in the message but,
instead, in the drop-down 'enter password' box! Grrr!

Thanks for bringing this up, Rufus


What's even worse is when it happens during a download and SM freezes,
you have to Force Quit, and loose the whole session...grrr-squared!


Hi Rufus

Are you saying that when you are in the process of downloading
/anything/ from the Internet when the password box drops down (or pops
up, whichever!s) that SM disrupts everything?



Yes. Total lockup - I can't even cancel or acknowledge the Password
request...I have to Force Quit SM from the Finder and loose the session.


Thanks for the information! I expect it will get fixed eventually.


I far too often get a 'spinning beach ball' (computer working hard)- do
you think that SM could be the cause? I'd not tied the two events
together!



I don't get that, unless there are a huge number of posts for Mail to
download from a Newsgroup. That's to be expected. When the above happens
the rest of my machine doesn't lock up or stall though. Just SM.


Again, thanks!


Out of interest, what kind of Apple machine do you have?

David



I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel
Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.


Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them?

I was reading here earlier today: 
http://community.f-secure.com/t5/Protection/Question-about-OS-X-Flashback-K-trojan/m-p/10815#M2205


One good thing I spotted is that CCleaner is now available from the App 
store! (Free)


Are there any specific Mac Usenet groups you are aware of/use?

David


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Re: Close buttons on all tabs

2012-04-05 Thread Nemo
Thank you, David and Jen!

I asked just in case I was missing something obvious. I'll just use ctrl
+w. That works.
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Re: Close buttons on all tabs

2012-04-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Jens Hatlak wrote:


Yes, that pref won't help you, it's FF-only. Neither won't any other
pref or CSS tweak do; SM simply doesn't include this functionality by
default. Instead, install the following add-on:

http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey/extensions-seatabx.html


Wunderbar :-)  Now a follow-up, please : with or without this
extension installed, why does Seamonkey not close when I close
the sole remaining tab ?  I have the following option set true :

browser.tabs.closeBrowserWithLastTab

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Re: Lost Calendar, to do list, Tasks etc

2012-04-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Saviour wrote:


Hi, Since UG to 2.8 I have lost the Calendar I had in SM Mail. Also
Seamonkey wants to be the default browsers.


Sorry, I can't help with the calendar, don't know the answer.

For the default browser question, see the preference at
Edit | Preferences | Advanced...
System Integration:
[x] Check default application settings on startup

If you disable/uncheck this setting, SM will stop checking whether it's 
the default and it'll stop asking if you're happy that way.



Not sure if I'm that impressed with SM.  Also. when you used to open
SM, the mail would open as well. Now, I cannot open mail unless I want
to send a msg.


For this, see the preference at
Edit | Preferences | Appearance...
When SeaMonkey starts up, open:
[ ] Browser
[ ] Mail  Newsgroups
[ ] Composer
[ ] Address Book
[ ] Chatzilla

Check whichever boxes you prefer; you can choose as many as you like.

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Re: Lost Calendar, to do list, Tasks etc

2012-04-05 Thread WLS
On 04/05/2012 02:00 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Saviour wrote:
 
 Hi, Since UG to 2.8 I have lost the Calendar I had in SM Mail. Also
 Seamonkey wants to be the default browsers.
 
 Sorry, I can't help with the calendar, don't know the answer.
 
 For the default browser question, see the preference at
 Edit | Preferences | Advanced...
 System Integration:
 [x] Check default application settings on startup
 
 If you disable/uncheck this setting, SM will stop checking whether it's
 the default and it'll stop asking if you're happy that way.
 
 Not sure if I'm that impressed with SM.  Also. when you used to open
 SM, the mail would open as well. Now, I cannot open mail unless I want
 to send a msg.
 
 For this, see the preference at
 Edit | Preferences | Appearance...
 When SeaMonkey starts up, open:
 [ ] Browser
 [ ] Mail  Newsgroups
 [ ] Composer
 [ ] Address Book
 [ ] Chatzilla
 
 Check whichever boxes you prefer; you can choose as many as you like.
 

For the Calendar install the Lightning version that works with SeaMonkey
2.8. All your calendars, to do list, tasks and event will magically
reappear.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/

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Re: Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-05 Thread Rufus

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

...and if you could fix this one, I'd be *ever* so greatfull -

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724296

--
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Hey, I'd be really grateful, too. It drives me nuts sometimes! ;-)

Especially so when I'm looking down at my keyboard typing (!) away,
then
look up at the screen and discover my text is not in the message but,
instead, in the drop-down 'enter password' box! Grrr!

Thanks for bringing this up, Rufus


What's even worse is when it happens during a download and SM freezes,
you have to Force Quit, and loose the whole session...grrr-squared!


Hi Rufus

Are you saying that when you are in the process of downloading
/anything/ from the Internet when the password box drops down (or pops
up, whichever!s) that SM disrupts everything?



Yes. Total lockup - I can't even cancel or acknowledge the Password
request...I have to Force Quit SM from the Finder and loose the session.


Thanks for the information! I expect it will get fixed eventually.



It's been going on since about SM 1.1.12, so I'm not holding my breath...


I far too often get a 'spinning beach ball' (computer working hard)- do
you think that SM could be the cause? I'd not tied the two events
together!



I don't get that, unless there are a huge number of posts for Mail to
download from a Newsgroup. That's to be expected. When the above happens
the rest of my machine doesn't lock up or stall though. Just SM.


Again, thanks!


Out of interest, what kind of Apple machine do you have?

David



I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel
Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.


Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them?



Yes - I prefer Norton AV (and *not* the full Internet Security Suite). 
I've been using it since OS 7 and never had an issue with using it.  I 
have it on all of my Macs.  Most of the people (Mac and PC) that I meet 
that have issues with NAV are running the full Suite - I always advise 
people to just buy/run the anti-virus only.



I was reading here earlier today:
http://community.f-secure.com/t5/Protection/Question-about-OS-X-Flashback-K-trojan/m-p/10815#M2205



Yes - I installed Apple's Java update on my machines a couple days ago. 
 It showed up in Software Update on my Macs running 10.6.8, but I had 
to manually install it on my Mini, which is running Lion.


I'm looking for info on how I can spot it by inspection...otherwise I'll 
be running scans on all of my machines over the next few days.




One good thing I spotted is that CCleaner is now available from the App
store! (Free)



I'll have to check that out - thanks for the pointer!


Are there any specific Mac Usenet groups you are aware of/use?

David




I monitor alt.macintosh, but it's pretty slow.  I get most of my Mac 
news and info from Macintouch -


http://www.macintouch.com/

Very informative site - I read it daily, throughout the day.

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Re: Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-05 Thread GerardJan

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

...and if you could fix this one, I'd be *ever* so greatfull -

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724296

--
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Hey, I'd be really grateful, too. It drives me nuts sometimes! ;-)

Especially so when I'm looking down at my keyboard typing (!) away,
then
look up at the screen and discover my text is not in the message but,
instead, in the drop-down 'enter password' box! Grrr!

Thanks for bringing this up, Rufus


What's even worse is when it happens during a download and SM freezes,
you have to Force Quit, and loose the whole session...grrr-squared!


Hi Rufus

Are you saying that when you are in the process of downloading
/anything/ from the Internet when the password box drops down (or pops
up, whichever!s) that SM disrupts everything?



Yes. Total lockup - I can't even cancel or acknowledge the Password
request...I have to Force Quit SM from the Finder and loose the session.


Thanks for the information! I expect it will get fixed eventually.


I far too often get a 'spinning beach ball' (computer working hard)- do
you think that SM could be the cause? I'd not tied the two events
together!



I don't get that, unless there are a huge number of posts for Mail to
download from a Newsgroup. That's to be expected. When the above happens
the rest of my machine doesn't lock up or stall though. Just SM.


Again, thanks!


Out of interest, what kind of Apple machine do you have?

David



I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel
Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.


Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them?

I was reading here earlier today:
http://community.f-secure.com/t5/Protection/Question-about-OS-X-Flashback-K-trojan/m-p/10815#M2205


One good thing I spotted is that CCleaner is now available from the App
store! (Free)

Are there any specific Mac Usenet groups you are aware of/use?

David



for 64-bit users http://vinkesteijn.info/libflashplayer.so is still there

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread Ray_Net

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments.  They may carry bugs.

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip  show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right 
handside with the zip file name.

After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip 
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the 
attachment where i can save it.


So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file 
to myself.


(I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the 
hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file 
attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread Ray_Net

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments.  They may carry bugs.

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip  show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


This is the message source from the sent folder:

From - Thu Apr 05 22:05:27 2012
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Message-ID:4f7dfb06.7000...@scarlet.be
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:05:26 +0200
From: Myselfmy.s...@scarlet.be
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Myselfmy.s...@scarlet.be
Subject: test attached zip
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary=080608080401090005010904

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--080608080401090005010904
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

test attached zip

--080608080401090005010904
Content-Type: multipart/x-zip;
 name=onexone.zip
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename=onexone.zip

UEsDBBQIAFavhUCnmwUqpwAAAB0BAAALb25leG9uZS5qcGeVzj0OgkAUBOB5Aruw
IcoGXBA1EAm6GEm4gYUJiZ7C23kNCw/hT+NNVij9aZzXfcWbMVfzRHBo9y2ICMfuYB7YgdkO
c2zGHMY5c0UghOeJaDjygzhKkjhSKp2XWTotZkrlm7xYrqp1NcnqptZNqSvdPyHOuXBFKESo
U5Xqv2POkC4IZNECA0mWJHPBGN3S97COo+BT0Sv9VPmtd/gWdS2WxBYnZOb2AlBLAQI/ABQA
AAAIAFavhUCnmwUqpwAAAB0BAAALACQAIABvbmV4b25lLmpwZwoAIAAA
AQAYAOwWQIBmE80B7BZAgGYTzQGs/y6AZhPNAVBLBQYAAQABAF0AAADQAAA=
--080608080401090005010904--


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Re: Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-05 Thread David B.

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

...and if you could fix this one, I'd be *ever* so greatfull -

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724296

--
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Hey, I'd be really grateful, too. It drives me nuts sometimes! ;-)

Especially so when I'm looking down at my keyboard typing (!) away,
then
look up at the screen and discover my text is not in the message but,
instead, in the drop-down 'enter password' box! Grrr!

Thanks for bringing this up, Rufus


What's even worse is when it happens during a download and SM freezes,
you have to Force Quit, and loose the whole
session...grrr-squared!


Hi Rufus

Are you saying that when you are in the process of downloading
/anything/ from the Internet when the password box drops down (or pops
up, whichever!s) that SM disrupts everything?



Yes. Total lockup - I can't even cancel or acknowledge the Password
request...I have to Force Quit SM from the Finder and loose the session.


Thanks for the information! I expect it will get fixed eventually.



It's been going on since about SM 1.1.12, so I'm not holding my breath...


I far too often get a 'spinning beach ball' (computer working hard)- do
you think that SM could be the cause? I'd not tied the two events
together!



I don't get that, unless there are a huge number of posts for Mail to
download from a Newsgroup. That's to be expected. When the above happens
the rest of my machine doesn't lock up or stall though. Just SM.


Again, thanks!


Out of interest, what kind of Apple machine do you have?

David



I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel
Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.


Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them?



Yes - I prefer Norton AV (and *not* the full Internet Security Suite).
I've been using it since OS 7 and never had an issue with using it. I
have it on all of my Macs. Most of the people (Mac and PC) that I meet
that have issues with NAV are running the full Suite - I always advise
people to just buy/run the anti-virus only.


OK - Interesting, Rufus!

I suppose my next question is, do you run MS Windows on your Macs?

My Apple store have assured me over the last few years that I didn't 
*need* any AV programme! I'm in the UK using BT as my ISP. They have 
provided McAfee Internet Security FOC as part of my package and, in 
addition, BT scans every email before downloading it to my machine!


Personally, I don't have Windows on my iMac!


I was reading here earlier today:
http://community.f-secure.com/t5/Protection/Question-about-OS-X-Flashback-K-trojan/m-p/10815#M2205


Yes - I installed Apple's Java update on my machines a couple days ago.
It showed up in Software Update on my Macs running 10.6.8, but I had to
manually install it on my Mini, which is running Lion.


I endeavour to check Apple update every day.


I'm looking for info on how I can spot it by inspection...otherwise I'll
be running scans on all of my machines over the next few days.


Good idea!


One good thing I spotted is that CCleaner is now available from the App
store! (Free)


I'll have to check that out - thanks for the pointer!


YW :-)


Are there any specific Mac Usenet groups you are aware of/use?


I monitor alt.macintosh, but it's pretty slow.


I had a quick look. Not terribly exciting, I agree!


I get most of my Mac news
and info from Macintouch -

http://www.macintouch.com/

Very informative site - I read it daily, throughout the day.


Thanks for that. I'd not seen it before. Bookmarked!

D.

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread hawker

On 4/5/2012 3:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a
window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry bugs.

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right
handside with the zip file name.
After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the
attachment where i can save it.

So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file
to myself.

(I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the
hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file
attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
Windows 7 professionnal with SP1


Any chance your getting e-mail via MAPI and not POP?
I have seen disappearing attachments (that I can still get via the web 
interface) with MAPI e-mail but it all works fine with POP.
This has been happening for quite a while however (since early 2.x 
versions). It seems some clients encode the e-mail differently than 
others and so I have the issue more with certain sending clients only.


For example I have one customer who is unable to send me attachments 
that I can retrieve in SM but they are always there when I use the web 
interface. It is something about that particular clients e-mail only.

Yahoo mail seems to be the worst offender.


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Re: Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-05 Thread Rufus

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Out of interest, what kind of Apple machine do you have?

David



I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel
Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.


Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them?



Yes - I prefer Norton AV (and *not* the full Internet Security Suite).
I've been using it since OS 7 and never had an issue with using it. I
have it on all of my Macs. Most of the people (Mac and PC) that I meet
that have issues with NAV are running the full Suite - I always advise
people to just buy/run the anti-virus only.


OK - Interesting, Rufus!

I suppose my next question is, do you run MS Windows on your Macs?

My Apple store have assured me over the last few years that I didn't
*need* any AV programme! I'm in the UK using BT as my ISP. They have
provided McAfee Internet Security FOC as part of my package and, in
addition, BT scans every email before downloading it to my machine!



...and they hate it in Apple stores when I assure customers that they 
*do* need AV software on their Macs.  For two reasons, IMO.  First - 
because Macs *are* vulnerable, and increasingly so.


Second, someone using a PC may pass you a virus or some malware that 
won't run on your Mac...but you still run the risk of passing it along 
to another PC user - I conjecture that e-mail Attachments are the 
biggest risk for this happening.  So just out of common courtesy you 
should have an AV program running on your Mac to prevent you from 
becoming an inadvertent carrier of sorts.



Personally, I don't have Windows on my iMac!



Not as yet, but I do intend to put a Windows partition on the spinning 
drive in my Mini and experiment with some PC based flight simulators in 
the future - that's why the Mini is configured through my 55 flat panel 
TV...Falcon Allied Force is life sized!


I suppose then I'll enter a new-old world of vulnerability...I have to 
deal with PCs at work and can't stand them.





Are there any specific Mac Usenet groups you are aware of/use?


I monitor alt.macintosh, but it's pretty slow.


I had a quick look. Not terribly exciting, I agree!


I get most of my Mac news
and info from Macintouch -

http://www.macintouch.com/

Very informative site - I read it daily, throughout the day.


Thanks for that. I'd not seen it before. Bookmarked!

D.



Macintouch is a really good info source - been following it for years.

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Re: Close buttons on all tabs

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Bergsagel

Nemo wrote:

Seamonkey 2.8
I want to have close buttons on all tabs, active or not. I would be
grateful for an about:config or userChrome.css tweak.
Question; Why not right click on any tab you want to close and use the 
pop-up menu item close tab?  In my experience a right click is just as 
efficient IMHO as as a close button on the tab. Graphically I fell using 
the right click is much cleaner interface wise. But compared to a close 
button not every user will know that they can use a right click to close 
a tab,

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Switching profiles does nothing

2012-04-05 Thread Mickey Fimbres
I'm new to the monkey, and I thought it would be great to try out.
I've got 2 gmail accounts. One is my personal that I've had for years,
the other is the corporate gmail account.
I created 2 profiles each with their own unique passwords, and
settings.
However when I go to Tools/Switch Profile/ then select the other
profile nothing happens.
One would think that the other email inbox would appear, but nothing
happens at all.
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks
-mickey
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Re: Close buttons on all tabs

2012-04-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/5/12 4:35 AM, Nemo wrote:
 Seamonkey 2.8
 I want to have close buttons on all tabs, active or not. I would be 
 grateful for an about:config or userChrome.css tweak.

With SeaMonkey, the current tab can be closed via the X button at the
far right of the tab bar.  With Thunderbird, each tab has its own X
button for closing it.

After experiencing both, I prefer the way SeaMonkey does it.  I am less
likely to close a tab accidentally when trying clumsily to select the
tab to its right.

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread NoOp
On 04/05/2012 12:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:
...
 @Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
 2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.

 I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
 I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
 When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right 
 handside with the zip file name.
 After sent 
 Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip 
 BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
 ...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the 
 attachment where i can save it.

OK, I still cannot reproduce Ray. However, I do see that the paperclip
is so small as to appear inexistent when the 'Attachments' column is not
selected. I've not noticed in the past as I turn on the 'Attachments'
column; that gives me a large paperclip. Doing that also removes the
paperclip from the 'envelope', but that's OK with me.

 
 So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file 
 to myself.

I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you
wish. You can then let me know if you receive it.

 
 (I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the 
 hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file 
 attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)

Then perhaps your ISP is stripping the zip?

 
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 
 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
 Windows 7 professionnal with SP1

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Re: Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

David B. wrote:


I suppose my next question is, do you run MS Windows on your Macs?

My Apple store have assured me over the last few years that I didn't
*need* any AV programme! I'm in the UK using BT as my ISP. They have
provided McAfee Internet Security FOC as part of my package and, in
addition, BT scans every email before downloading it to my machine!

Personally, I don't have Windows on my iMac!


This news report appeared April 4, 2012:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/over-60-macs-infected-with-flashback-trojan/11345

Summary: The Flashback Trojan botnet reportedly controls over 600,000 
Macs. Thankfully, Apple yesterday released a patch for Java, which the 
Trojan exploits, so make sure you install it.


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[Java/Apple/Mozilla] was: (Re: Thanks, SM Team.)

2012-04-05 Thread NoOp
On 04/05/2012 09:38 AM, David B. wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
...

 I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel
 Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.
 
 Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them?
 
 I was reading here earlier today: 
 http://community.f-secure.com/t5/Protection/Question-about-OS-X-Flashback-K-trojan/m-p/10815#M2205
...

Gotta love it... Apple is just now getting around to updating java to
release 31:
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT5228
quote
Description: Multiple vulnerabilities exist in Java 1.6.0_29, the most
serious of which may allow an untrusted Java applet to execute arbitrary
code outside the Java sandbox. Visiting a web page containing a
maliciously crafted untrusted Java applet may lead to arbitrary code
execution with the privileges of the current user. These issues are
addressed by updating to Java version 1.6.0_31. Further information is
available via the Java website at
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/releasenotes-136954.html
/quote

Pretty far behind the curve given that: 1) .31 was released in February,
and 2) Mozilla tagged  took action regarding the java issue(s) some
time ago.

This might be of interest/help:
  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unblocking-java-plugin
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