vertical scroll bar

2012-05-03 Thread Ken
Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical 
scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather 
than a single line.  Is there a setting I can make that will allow the 
page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the 
mouse?  I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up 
and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar.  Thanks.

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Re: vertical scroll bar

2012-05-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/3/12 5:44 AM, Ken wrote:
 Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical 
 scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather 
 than a single line.  Is there a setting I can make that will allow the 
 page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the 
 mouse?  I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up 
 and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar.  Thanks.

Aha!  It's not me!  It's SeaMonkey.  I thought something was strange
when I scrolled.  The same thing is happening with the scroll bar
slider.  I can no longer scroll just one line.

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Re: vertical scroll bar

2012-05-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/3/12 8:17 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 5/3/12 5:44 AM, Ken wrote:
 Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical 
 scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather 
 than a single line.  Is there a setting I can make that will allow the 
 page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the 
 mouse?  I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up 
 and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar.  Thanks.
 
 Aha!  It's not me!  It's SeaMonkey.  I thought something was strange
 when I scrolled.  The same thing is happening with the scroll bar
 slider.  I can no longer scroll just one line.
 

I have submitted bug #751582.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751582.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released

2012-05-03 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Philip Chee wrote:

On Thu, 03 May 2012 11:40:56 +1000, Daniel wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

djrei...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:31:20 UTC+1, Jens Hatlak  wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released


I'm on SM 2.9 (with Win XP/SP3), and about: tells me, You are currently on the beta 
update channel.

When I click on Help   Check for updates..., nothing is found. Shouldn't it 
find 2.9.1? Or do I need to get off the beta channel?

Thanks!



We've had a glitch or two in our 2.10 beta builds so far, the changes in
2.9.1 are not security related


I thought you hard working guys were only going to produce these minor
updates if it were a security thing (chemspils??)

If SM 2.9.1 is not security related, why produce it??


Security *and* stability fixes. If severe data loss (disappearing
emails) isn't a stability issue, I don't know what is.

And if we are going to respin to pick up such fixes we might let a few
low risk not as important fixes ride along.

Phil


The more fixes the merrier. i.e. I wish more bugs (issues) get fixed,
as soon it can be accomplished.
Of course I also wish there weren't as many new bugs getting through
to the released product versions, in the first place.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released

2012-05-03 Thread WLS
On 05/03/2012 12:33 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
 The more fixes the merrier. i.e. I wish more bugs (issues) get fixed,
 as soon it can be accomplished.
 Of course I also wish there weren't as many new bugs getting through
 to the released product versions, in the first place.

Are you testing any Aurora, Beta or Nightly builds to help make sure
those bugs don't get through to the Release versions?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released

2012-05-03 Thread Manuel Reimer

Jens Hatlak wrote:

[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.9/changes


This is exactly the same change list as for the 2.9 release, so where's the 
difference between 2.9 and 2.9.1?


Yours

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released

2012-05-03 Thread WLS
On 05/03/2012 02:02 PM, Manuel Reimer wrote:
 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.9/changes
 
 This is exactly the same change list as for the 2.9 release, so where's
 the difference between 2.9 and 2.9.1?
 
 Yours
 
 Manuel

Right at the top under Fixes in 2.9.1

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released

2012-05-03 Thread Jens Hatlak

Manuel Reimer wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.9/changes


This is exactly the same change list as for the 2.9 release


Of course it is! Since the start of rapid releases, there is only one 
set of release notes per major version, from the first beta until the 
last oilspill. I thought people would have noticed this by now. ;-)



so where's the difference between 2.9 and 2.9.1?


The Fixes in 2.9.1 box lists those changes (obviously, that box was 
not present back when 2.9 was released). The changes in 2.9 include all 
of those until/including Beta 4 (since the last beta equals the release 
version).


Also read the first paragraph on the page you cited. It clearly states 
that all changes listed are relative to 2.8 (the previous major release).


HTH

Jens

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Re: vertical scroll bar

2012-05-03 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/3/12 8:17 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/3/12 5:44 AM, Ken wrote:

Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical
scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather
than a single line.  Is there a setting I can make that will allow the
page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the
mouse?  I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up
and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar.  Thanks.


Aha!  It's not me!  It's SeaMonkey.  I thought something was strange
when I scrolled.  The same thing is happening with the scroll bar
slider.  I can no longer scroll just one line.



I have submitted bug #751582.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751582.



Seems to be ok in the Mac version, but what I have noticed is that in my 
installations with OS 10.6.8 (SnoLep) using the SM Modern Theme that 
sometimes the window scroll *arrows* are not displayed on launch even 
though the rest of the window(s) are displayed normally - closing SM and 
relaunching usually solves the issue and gets me the scroll arrows 
displayed (and working) as they should be.


I think they're supposed to be removed under 10.7.3 (Lion), but I'm not 
100% certain of that - I know I don't get them in Finder widows...and 
I'm not happy with Lion about that.


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Re: vertical scroll bar

2012-05-03 Thread Philip Chee
On 03/05/2012 23:17, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 5/3/12 5:44 AM, Ken wrote:
 Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical 
 scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather 
 than a single line.  Is there a setting I can make that will allow the 
 page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the 
 mouse?  I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up 
 and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar.  Thanks.
 
 Aha!  It's not me!  It's SeaMonkey.  I thought something was strange
 when I scrolled.  The same thing is happening with the scroll bar
 slider.  I can no longer scroll just one line.

toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance
Change that from 3 to 1

Phil

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Re: vertical scroll bar

2012-05-03 Thread Philip Chee
On 04/05/2012 09:43, Philip Chee wrote:
 On 03/05/2012 23:17, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 5/3/12 5:44 AM, Ken wrote:
 Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical 
 scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather 
 than a single line.  Is there a setting I can make that will allow the 
 page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the 
 mouse?  I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up 
 and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar.  Thanks.
 
 Aha!  It's not me!  It's SeaMonkey.  I thought something was strange
 when I scrolled.  The same thing is happening with the scroll bar
 slider.  I can no longer scroll just one line.
 
 toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance
 Change that from 3 to 1

Ah you're talking about the scrollbar buttons. In that case it's
Bug 751476 - The vertical scrollbar's buttons should respect
toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751476

Phil

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released

2012-05-03 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 03/05/2012 15:21, Jens Hatlak told the world:

 The Fixes in 2.9.1 box lists those changes (obviously, that box was 
 not present back when 2.9 was released). The changes in 2.9 include all 
 of those until/including Beta 4 (since the last beta equals the release 
 version).
 
 Also read the first paragraph on the page you cited. It clearly states 
 that all changes listed are relative to 2.8 (the previous major release).

Jens, perhaps a small change in the page headings would make it a bit
clearer to the visitor in future versions:

Replace Changes in Beta 4 (or whatever beta it turns out to be) with
Changes in Beta 4 / 2.9.0 Final Release

As it's currently done, someone not as involved with the release process
tends to keep looking for the final version and can't find it
anywhere. I did it myself before remembering that in most cases, the
gold release is identical to the last beta...

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Re: vertical scroll bar

2012-05-03 Thread Daniel

Philip Chee wrote:

On 04/05/2012 09:43, Philip Chee wrote:

On 03/05/2012 23:17, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/3/12 5:44 AM, Ken wrote:

Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical
scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather
than a single line.  Is there a setting I can make that will allow the
page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the
mouse?  I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up
and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar.  Thanks.


Aha!  It's not me!  It's SeaMonkey.  I thought something was strange
when I scrolled.  The same thing is happening with the scroll bar
slider.  I can no longer scroll just one line.


toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance
Change that from 3 to 1


Ah you're talking about the scrollbar buttons. In that case it's
Bug 751476 - The vertical scrollbar's buttons should respect
toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751476

Phil



I've added comment 3 to 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751582, as I'm seeing down 
arrow variations in SM 2.8.


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Re: vertical scroll bar

2012-05-03 Thread NoOp
On 05/03/2012 06:43 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
 On 03/05/2012 23:17, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 5/3/12 5:44 AM, Ken wrote:
 Since either SeaMonkey version 2.9 or 2.9.1 I noticed that the vertical 
 scroll bar buttons move the page up or down about three lines rather 
 than a single line.  Is there a setting I can make that will allow the 
 page to move only one line when the buttons are clicked upon with the 
 mouse?  I am NOT talking about the scroll wheel on the mouse, but the up 
 and down buttons at each end of the vertical scroll bar.  Thanks.
 
 Aha!  It's not me!  It's SeaMonkey.  I thought something was strange
 when I scrolled.  The same thing is happening with the scroll bar
 slider.  I can no longer scroll just one line.
 
 toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance
 Change that from 3 to 1
 
 Phil
 

You invent that in 2.9.x, or did you it manually? I find no
'toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance'
in SeaMonkey 2.9.1 or FireFox 12.

Perhaps it was/is in the version that you are reporting using?
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.20pre) Gecko/20110606 Lightning/1.0b2pre SeaMonkey/2.0.15pre

Not likely. But I did find it in 'FireFox 14.0a1 (2012-03-24)'. And
checking https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751476 I see:
In Firefox 13+, if you set toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance to
1, the...

If you are going to comment on an issue for SeaMonkey version 2.9 or
2.9.1 as the OP is discussing, then it would be quite helpful if you
commented on the version discussed.

Perhaps these are related?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751476
The vertical scrollbar's buttons should respect
toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance

But if we check back a little further (follow the other referenced bug
reports):

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635645
[consider increasing the amount of scrolling performed by using the
arrow keys]
(Starting from comment 15 is interesting/telling...)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725700
[Keyboard arrow keys and scrollbar buttons should have consistent
scrolling distances]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710373
[Pressing the vertical slider down arrow with smooth scrolling should
move three lines instead of one]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=scrollbar+buttons

It would be interesting to do a relation tree to all of these... Mozilla
coordination efforts. And, no, I'm not wagging fingers at you and/or the
SeaMonkey Volunteers. I think you guys do a fantastic job  appreciate
the effort (especially every 6 weeks :-). However, I do often find it
fasinating tracking an issue from one reported, to the duplicate of
this bug, to Please take this to the support forum or newsgroup. This
is a verified fixed bug and commenting here unnecessarily spams a number
of people who could be getting actual work done. etc.


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