Re: message with some char baldly displayed

2013-03-21 Thread cyberzen

tuxi...@gmail.com a écrit :

but in Print preview, Reply, Forward, View Message Source - diacritics is 
correct


oups, I had not verified all these cases yet

I can say yes, same for me, viewing is correct in these cases

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Re: Preferences dialogs

2013-03-21 Thread Rob
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
 Of course we don't allow that.  And users cannot do it themselves because
 they cannot generate the required certificate that will be trusted.
 There really are two worlds: the managed PCs that are part of the domain
 and completely locked down (including the laptops that can roam but
 only to connect to the company network via VPN), and the private unmanaged
 PCs that can only access applications via the internet, and these are
 either web apps (like webmail) or Citrix ICA.  The ICA sessions do not
 map local resources, they are only screen/keyboard/mouse sessions.


 What do you do for business travel?  We're stuck between total 
 lock-down, and reliance on a combination of user vigilance and 
 certificates.  But the user is allowed enough freedom to access the open 
 web...managed or not.

Our users can use a locally available WiFi, as long as it is open
(i.e. it can be WPA or WEP protected but it should passs UDP port 500
and 4500 and not use a captive portal).
Or they can use a UMTS card/stick if they are really mobile.
The browser is locked to use a proxy autoconfig script that it fetches
from our server.

 This is where SM's usenet ability is a problem for us, IMO...and why 
 Firefox is ok, but SM is not.  Outlook can be locked down, but not so 
 with SM...at least not as far as I can see.

You can lock down SM with the lockPref techniques that I explained in another
posting in this thread.
Usenet can also be blocked because it requires a TCP connect from the
browser to port 119 on a newsserver on the internet.  Does not work at
all here because we don't have routing between LAN and internet, not even
NAT routing.  But when you have, it should be possible to block TCP 119
with an access list entry.  This can also be done on the PC itself.

 We're experimenting in limited areas with using iPads...I *REALLY* wish 
 I could use an iPad on the job, but so far I think everyone is still 
 scratching their heads as to how to secure both the device and corporate 
 wifi.

Define a separate network on the WiFi (SSID) that is open to the users
and accesses a vlan that is NAT'ed to internet.  The iPad users are on
the internet just like they are at home.  No risk to the company beyond
the problem that they may abuse the company-registered IP to post
libelous content etc.  IT security should be unaffected.
Any use for job-related acitivities would be via the portals that the
company offers for external access.

 One time it has happened that an accountant came in with a trojaned laptop
 that was sending spam.  He knew about it but could not get it fixed himself.
 Those people have long lists of requirements for IT security
 certification, but they have their laptops unprotected.  We now have a
 different accountant.

 External (non-owned) devices are simply not allowed to connect in any 
 manner, in our case.

It was only a connect to the public internet, but it caused that single
IP to be listed on the wellknown spam blocking lists.
As there had been no escalation by the lists yet, our own servers had not
been blocked.  (they are in the same /27 subnet on internet)

 Yup.  But no matter what you do, someone else will eventually out-do 
 you.  So your only real defense is to remain vigilant.

Of course!
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Re: Need help to transfer all SM 2.16.2 emails, address books to a new Windows 7 O/S PC

2013-03-21 Thread Daniel

Ray Davison wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cqbrodie wrote:

Then, make use of MozBackup, downloadable from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mozbackup/, install it on both systems,
use it to archive your current profiles, copy them to your new system
and use MozBackup to extract the profiles to the locations you selected
when installing SM on the new system.


You are working too hard.  A profile is just a sub-directory.  Copy it
to wherever you want, and name it whatever you want.  Then in Create
Profile  Chose Folder, select that sub-directory.

Ray


Yeap, Ray, in normal situations that's all you need to do, butin 
this case, OP wants to move everything to a new computer, and having a 
back-up is not a bad idea in any case.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224181913


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:20.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224182221

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Re: Preferences dialogs

2013-03-21 Thread Rufus

Rob wrote:

Rufus n...@home.com wrote:


What do you do for business travel?  We're stuck between total
lock-down, and reliance on a combination of user vigilance and
certificates.  But the user is allowed enough freedom to access the open
web...managed or not.


Our users can use a locally available WiFi, as long as it is open
(i.e. it can be WPA or WEP protected but it should passs UDP port 500
and 4500 and not use a captive portal).
Or they can use a UMTS card/stick if they are really mobile.
The browser is locked to use a proxy autoconfig script that it fetches
from our server.



I'm not user ours can do that - they are supposed to be totally wifi 
disabled, but every now and then a new machine slips through that 
doesn't get the card removed/shut off, or a PCMCIA card gets mis-used.



This is where SM's usenet ability is a problem for us, IMO...and why
Firefox is ok, but SM is not.  Outlook can be locked down, but not so
with SM...at least not as far as I can see.


You can lock down SM with the lockPref techniques that I explained in another
posting in this thread.
Usenet can also be blocked because it requires a TCP connect from the
browser to port 119 on a newsserver on the internet.  Does not work at
all here because we don't have routing between LAN and internet, not even
NAT routing.  But when you have, it should be possible to block TCP 119
with an access list entry.  This can also be done on the PC itself.



I believe that we do, but we blacklist sites and advertisers...using 
keywords, I think.



We're experimenting in limited areas with using iPads...I *REALLY* wish
I could use an iPad on the job, but so far I think everyone is still
scratching their heads as to how to secure both the device and corporate
wifi.


Define a separate network on the WiFi (SSID) that is open to the users
and accesses a vlan that is NAT'ed to internet.  The iPad users are on
the internet just like they are at home.  No risk to the company beyond
the problem that they may abuse the company-registered IP to post
libelous content etc.  IT security should be unaffected.
Any use for job-related acitivities would be via the portals that the
company offers for external access.



Wifi isn't allowed at all on the job, except at very specific sites.  In 
fact I'm not sure it would even work at all through the walls in some of 
our buildings.


And then there are other things about iPads that aren't allowed or can't 
be managed due to how closed they are - but having one would sure make 
life easier...



External (non-owned) devices are simply not allowed to connect in any
manner, in our case.


It was only a connect to the public internet, but it caused that single
IP to be listed on the wellknown spam blocking lists.
As there had been no escalation by the lists yet, our own servers had not
been blocked.  (they are in the same /27 subnet on internet)



Yes - and something like this seems to be happening on a growing basis 
to our e-mail...some of our distribution lists are getting out to 
spammers, and we sometime get spear-phishing e-mails to people on those 
lists.



Yup.  But no matter what you do, someone else will eventually out-do
you.  So your only real defense is to remain vigilant.


Of course!



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Re: SMTP stopped working

2013-03-21 Thread Arnie Goetchius
David H. Durgee wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 20/03/2013 22:25:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 But don't tell them you use SeaMonkey, many ISPs will throw up their
 hands and refuse to talk to you if you do.
 But if they *do* ask, say Outlook Express!;-)

 He could also say that he had followed the comcast instructions here:
 http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/setting-up-outlook-2010/



 But on the comcast site i found also
 http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/configure-outlook-express-xfinity-internet


 with a different setting for the smtp part.
 
 I just tested this using the following:
 
 openssl s_client -connect smtp.comcast.net:465
 
 This did connect to the server and after a few seconds I got the prompt:
 
 220 omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net comcast ESMTP server ready
 
 So it appears that you want port 465 with SSL/TLS specified for the
 connection security.
 
 Dave

Sounds good to me. Here is what Comcast publishes for Thunderbird which
should also work for SeaMonkey:

http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/setting-up-thunderbird/
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Embedded graphics

2013-03-21 Thread Ray Davison
I get emails with embedded graphics.  Some are sent directly to me and 
some have been forwarded many times.  I have never been able to resend 
them and retain the graphics.


If I just select forward, the compose window that is created has no 
graphics.  If I select edit as new, compose still has the graphics, but 
the never reach the recipient.


I have fiddled with a few settings but never changed the end result.

Ideas?

TY
Ray
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Re: Embedded graphics

2013-03-21 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ray Davison wrote:


I get emails with embedded graphics.  Some are sent directly to me and
some have been forwarded many times.  I have never been able to resend
them and retain the graphics.

If I just select forward, the compose window that is created has no
graphics.  If I select edit as new, compose still has the graphics, but
the never reach the recipient.

I have fiddled with a few settings but never changed the end result.

Ideas?


To have embedded graphics, you need to send HTML. If your default is 
plain text, simply forwarding will produce a plain-text message like 
this one, and graphics will be lost along with all other formatting.


To forward as HTML, hold down the SHIFT key as you click the Forward 
button. This is parallel to the options SHIFT-Reply and SHIFT-Compose.


Alternatively, choose Forward As ... | Attachment.

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An odd SM crash

2013-03-21 Thread Ed Mullen
I leave SeaMonkey running, walk away from my PC.  Come back some 
indeterminate number of hours later.


Hit the CTRL key to wake up my displays. Screen comes up as expected. 
Move the mouse around the screen. As the mouse moves over the SM 
window(s) it wipes/erases the SM image.


Right-click, choose Refresh, SM windows dissappear and all is well, 
Windows desktop and other programs just fine.


SM has crashed but no crash report is produced.  Run SM and it does ask 
if I want to re-load the last session or a new one.


This started a couple months ago.  My video card had died sorta, the fan 
self-destructed.  I couldn't even find the pieces inside the case.  Put 
in a new card and it's still happening.


Well, this PC is circa October 2006, still, dual-core, 3GHz, tons of 
memory and disk space.


It may just be age (mine or the PC or both) ... maybe I just relegate 
this to a server role and buy a new one.


Thoughts?

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Re: Very Slow Browsing

2013-03-21 Thread Cecil Bankston

WaltS wrote:

On 03/20/2013 09:01 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

I am using SM 2.16.2 with Windows 7 Pro.  Browsing the internet or
loading of images by email messages has become very slow on my system.
A page that may load in 5 sec. in Internet Explorer can take 30+ seconds
in Seamonkey.  I also notice the busy indicator next to the cursor in SM
Mail is spinning almost constantly.  What might be causes and solutions
for this slow performance?



Busy Cursor is a known issue.


It seems to be a very long-persisting known issue.  I mentioned it only 
because I thought it might be related to the slow browsing problem.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414

Follow standard troubleshooting procedure to see if that helps the lag.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/#troubleshooting

Thanks.  The slow browsing problem disappeared after I disabled WOT (Web 
of Trust) extension.


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