Re: v2.20 is out!

2013-08-18 Thread Ant

On 8/17/2013 10:20 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


So will there be a 2.20.1, because of a Firefox 23.0.1 chemspill release?


What is that about?


Firefox 23.0.1 is not a security release, but a stability and a bug fix
release.

The bugs they hit don't affect us. (except for a SINGLE bug they are
taking as a ridealong, of which is extremely minor and not worth the
effort on our end to do a respin for, we'll take its fix in the next
version of SeaMonkey)


Thanks. I couldn't find any 2.20.1 in Bugzilla. I did download the 
2.20.1 for Firefox earlier. :)

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Anyone affected by Bug 903451?

2013-08-18 Thread Rob
I created this bug for Seamonkey 2.20:

Program is starting much, much slower.  First about 3 seconds of 100% CPU,
then it falls back in CPU use but does not progress.  Disk does not rattle
(no swapping).  When starting with -mail, after some time the accounts and
folders list appears but the message list area remains grey for about 10
more seconds.  Then program springs alive and works at normal performance.

Tracing reveals no suspicious network activity.   Server (IMAP) is
connected OK.

Testing with a different account and removing all .msf files hints in
the direction that the startup time is proportional to the number of
.msf files.  An account with only standard folders starts much quicker
than my own account, and after the removal of .msf files mine started
quicker as well.  However after the program is shut down and restarted
(now with empty .msf files as I have not yet visited all those folders)
it is just as slow as before.

(Bug 903451 in BugZilla)

It is confirmed by Ian Neal, but not much more info.

It could be that it only affects IMAP users and it also looks like
it affects mainly users with many folders and/or multiple accounts.

For me, it is a blocking problem in the rollout of this version.
But maybe there is a local cause that could be worked around...

I wonder if anyone here has noticed it.
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Re: Anyone affected by Bug 903451?

2013-08-18 Thread A Williams

Rob wrote:

I created this bug for Seamonkey 2.20:

Program is starting much, much slower.  First about 3 seconds of 100% CPU,
then it falls back in CPU use but does not progress.  Disk does not rattle
(no swapping).  When starting with -mail, after some time the accounts and
folders list appears but the message list area remains grey for about 10
more seconds.  Then program springs alive and works at normal performance.

Tracing reveals no suspicious network activity.   Server (IMAP) is
connected OK.

Testing with a different account and removing all .msf files hints in
the direction that the startup time is proportional to the number of
.msf files.  An account with only standard folders starts much quicker
than my own account, and after the removal of .msf files mine started
quicker as well.  However after the program is shut down and restarted
(now with empty .msf files as I have not yet visited all those folders)
it is just as slow as before.

(Bug 903451 in BugZilla)

It is confirmed by Ian Neal, but not much more info.

It could be that it only affects IMAP users and it also looks like
it affects mainly users with many folders and/or multiple accounts.

For me, it is a blocking problem in the rollout of this version.
But maybe there is a local cause that could be worked around...

I wonder if anyone here has noticed it.



6 x email account (1 Imap)
one of the pop email accounts has 14 Inbox subfolders and a couple more 
below them, others have less.  I hardly use my Imap account and it has 
no subfolders.


No problems starting SM.  I have always start with browser+mail.
Sometimes after I terminate SM I have 100% CPU usage on one processor 
and have to 'kill' it.  That started under SM 2.19 and has continued 
under 2.20.  Linux x64.


I have a performance monitor running all the time in one corner and 
would definitely notice anything like this.

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Re: Anyone affected by Bug 903451?

2013-08-18 Thread Rob
A Williams root@localhost.localdomain wrote:
 Rob wrote:
 I created this bug for Seamonkey 2.20:

 Program is starting much, much slower.  First about 3 seconds of 100% CPU,
 then it falls back in CPU use but does not progress.  Disk does not rattle
 (no swapping).  When starting with -mail, after some time the accounts and
 folders list appears but the message list area remains grey for about 10
 more seconds.  Then program springs alive and works at normal performance.

 Tracing reveals no suspicious network activity.   Server (IMAP) is
 connected OK.

 Testing with a different account and removing all .msf files hints in
 the direction that the startup time is proportional to the number of
 .msf files.  An account with only standard folders starts much quicker
 than my own account, and after the removal of .msf files mine started
 quicker as well.  However after the program is shut down and restarted
 (now with empty .msf files as I have not yet visited all those folders)
 it is just as slow as before.

 (Bug 903451 in BugZilla)

 It is confirmed by Ian Neal, but not much more info.

 It could be that it only affects IMAP users and it also looks like
 it affects mainly users with many folders and/or multiple accounts.

 For me, it is a blocking problem in the rollout of this version.
 But maybe there is a local cause that could be worked around...

 I wonder if anyone here has noticed it.


 6 x email account (1 Imap)
 one of the pop email accounts has 14 Inbox subfolders and a couple more 
 below them, others have less.  I hardly use my Imap account and it has 
 no subfolders.

 No problems starting SM.  I have always start with browser+mail.
 Sometimes after I terminate SM I have 100% CPU usage on one processor 
 and have to 'kill' it.  That started under SM 2.19 and has continued 
 under 2.20.  Linux x64.

 I have a performance monitor running all the time in one corner and 
 would definitely notice anything like this.

Maybe I should have mentioned: the problem occurs on Windows systems.
Reported on Windows XP and Windows 2008R2 Terminal server.

I have Linux at home with many folders and it does not happen there.
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Re: Anyone affected by Bug 903451?

2013-08-18 Thread Ruediger Lahl
*Rob* schrieb:

 I created this bug for Seamonkey 2.20:

 Program is starting much, much slower.

I read from a guy in german usenet, who could fix a suchlike problem by
making a new exception in his firewall for 2.20
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status bar for seamonkey

2013-08-18 Thread Bryan v. Roache

hi. is their a status bar add on for SeaMonkey like their is for Firefox?:-)
the name of the add on i am talking about for Firefox  is called status 
for evar, for Firefox.

  I for got one more thing.
is their a grammar checker for sea monkey as well?

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Re: status bar for seamonkey

2013-08-18 Thread Exalm

Bryan v. Roache пишет:

hi. is their a status bar add on for SeaMonkey like their is for
Firefox?:-)
the name of the add on i am talking about for Firefox  is called status
for evar, for Firefox.
   I for got one more thing.
is their a grammar checker for sea monkey as well?


It has status bar by default.
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Re: Anyone affected by Bug 903451?

2013-08-18 Thread A Williams

Ruediger Lahl wrote:

*Rob* schrieb:


I created this bug for Seamonkey 2.20:

Program is starting much, much slower.


I read from a guy in german usenet, who could fix a suchlike problem by
making a new exception in his firewall for 2.20



Outgoing?  What port?
That would mean Rob should maybe look at his firewall logs.
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Windows 8 Management...

2013-08-18 Thread ss

Hello all,

Can anyone advise as to how I can make SM my mail program in Windows 8? 
I thought it was through IE and it is not.


Each time I go into a program other than through SM and want to mail a 
file, windows ask for ms mail account info to connect and send. I do not 
want to have to dl and save every file I wish to forward.


Any ideas or suggestions?

TIA - bo1953
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Re: Anyone affected by Bug 903451?

2013-08-18 Thread Rob
A Williams root@localhost.localdomain wrote:
 Ruediger Lahl wrote:
 *Rob* schrieb:

 I created this bug for Seamonkey 2.20:

 Program is starting much, much slower.

 I read from a guy in german usenet, who could fix a suchlike problem by
 making a new exception in his firewall for 2.20


 Outgoing?  What port?
 That would mean Rob should maybe look at his firewall logs.

It could be a phone home problem.  The systems are on a LAN
with no internet routing.  Browsing is only via a proxy.

Is Seamonkey trying to make a connection to internet during startup?
If so, why is that?
Why does it not respect the proxy settings?
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Re: Anyone affected by Bug 903451?

2013-08-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Rob:

Is Seamonkey trying to make a connection to internet during startup?

Not my SM 2.23a1 Linux x86_64. Starting SM as browser after
sudo /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 stop
shows no visible delay. Opening MailNews shows popup windows for the
news servers lamenting that no connection could be established.

Rob, did you try with a new profile? A minimal configured one?

Hartmut
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Re: status bar for seamonkey

2013-08-18 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/18/13 8:28 AM, Bryan v. Roache wrote:
 hi. is their a status bar add on for SeaMonkey like their is for Firefox?:-)
 the name of the add on i am talking about for Firefox  is called status 
 for evar, for Firefox.
I for got one more thing.
 is their a grammar checker for sea monkey as well?
 

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [View  Show/Hide  Status Bar].  That
should place a check mark next to Status Bar and make your status bar
visible.

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Re: Anyone affected by Bug 903451?

2013-08-18 Thread Rob
Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
 Rob:

Is Seamonkey trying to make a connection to internet during startup?

 Not my SM 2.23a1 Linux x86_64. Starting SM as browser after
 sudo /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 stop
 shows no visible delay. Opening MailNews shows popup windows for the
 news servers lamenting that no connection could be established.

 Rob, did you try with a new profile? A minimal configured one?

yes.  also with safe mode.  no difference except that with an
account with few folders the startup appears to be a bit quicker.

no news servers are configured in these accounts, only IMAP servers
that are on the local network.  once the very slow startup is completed
the program operates normally.  see Bug 903451

there is no logging of the firewall, it is a windows security policy
that allows only outgoing traffic within the LAN network range.

on my Linux system (which is directly on internet) I see no outgoing
connection during startup either.
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Helper Applications

2013-08-18 Thread David E. Ross
Where are the associations between MIME types and helper applications
stored?

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Re: Helper Applications

2013-08-18 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/18/13 12:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 Where are the associations between MIME types and helper applications
 stored?
 

Forget it.

I encounter occasional links to PDF files with the application/pdf MIME
type that launch Adobe Reader and display in an Adobe Reader window.
This happens despite the fact that my Help Applications indicate to open
and display PDF files in a SeaMonkey window via the Adobe Reader plugin.
 My testing indicates the problem lies at the Web site since other sites
do indeed display PDF files with the same application/pdf MIME type in
SeaMonkey windows via the plugin.

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Re: Helper Applications

2013-08-18 Thread Rob
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote:
 Where are the associations between MIME types and helper applications
 stored?

Mostly in the registry (in Windows).
Exceptions that you add yourself are stored in the file mimeTypes.rdf
in the profile directory.
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