Re: Message pane opening after junk message viewing

2014-01-18 Thread Allen

Rubens wrote:

Hello,


In my mail view layout I don´t use the message pane (F8 keyboard shorcut).

However, after opening a junk mail message which was wrongly marked as
junk,
the message panel comes up and remains active for any other message
opened further,
until I manually hide it again by clicking on its border or unchecking
the option in the menu
or pressing F8.

That behaviour was not present in previous Seamonkey version. Is there
any setting
for disabling it ?


Regards,


Rubens
   I have observed the same thing and I find it annoying as well. 
Hopefully someone knows of a setting to completely disable the preview pane.

Allen
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Re: Message pane opening after junk message viewing

2014-01-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/01/14 19:51, Allen wrote:

Rubens wrote:

Hello,


In my mail view layout I don´t use the message pane (F8 keyboard
shorcut).

However, after opening a junk mail message which was wrongly marked as
junk,
the message panel comes up and remains active for any other message
opened further,
until I manually hide it again by clicking on its border or unchecking
the option in the menu
or pressing F8.

That behaviour was not present in previous Seamonkey version. Is there
any setting
for disabling it ?


Regards,


Rubens

I have observed the same thing and I find it annoying as well.
Hopefully someone knows of a setting to completely disable the preview
pane.
Allen


The only way I've heard of to disable the preview pane, is to drag the 
divider, between the Threads Pane and the Message Pane, to the bottom of 
the screen.


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Re: what does X-Mozilla Status mean?

2014-01-18 Thread Rob
Jim no_...@domaininvalid.org wrote:
 I noticed that all the headers for my email that I send out contain:

 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080

Those are not actually in the messages that you send out, only in
the copies that are in your Sent folder.
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Re: what does X-Mozilla Status mean?

2014-01-18 Thread Ant

On 1/17/2014 10:03 PM PT, Jim typed:
...

Thanks Ralph and Hartmut.  Just was curious.


Ditto. I didn't know this too. :)
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Re: what does X-Mozilla Status mean?

2014-01-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rob wrote:


Jim no_...@domaininvalid.org wrote:

I noticed that all the headers for my email that I send out contain:

X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080


Those are not actually in the messages that you send out, only in
the copies that are in your Sent folder.


Actually, both messages contain these fields, with different values. I 
sent a message from one of my accounts to another, and found:


The copy in my Sent folder had:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080

The copy received in the other account had:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 

Of course, I could change the first value for each by toggling 
read/unread (pressing M).


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address books

2014-01-18 Thread Rick Merrill
For years I have been exporting backups of my email address books. Now I need to import them and it is creating duplicates! 
 This is unexpected - must I delete the old folder first???

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Re: address books

2014-01-18 Thread Ed Mullen

Rick Merrill wrote:

For years I have been exporting backups of my email address books. Now
I need to import them and it is creating duplicates!  This is unexpected
- must I delete the old folder first???


Did you actually use the export function or did you simply copy the 
*.mab files as backups?


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Re: what does X-Mozilla Status mean?

2014-01-18 Thread Geoff Welsh

Jim wrote:

Ralph Fox wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:33:04 -0700, Jim wrote:


I noticed that all the headers for my email that I send out contain:

X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080

What does that mean?



They include information such as
* Whether the message is marked read,
* Whether the message is queued for upload,
* Whether the message is starred,
* Whether the message has been replied to,
* ...etc.


If you understand hexadecimal numbers, see
http://www.eyrich-net.org/mozilla/X-Mozilla-Status.html
The right-hand side of X-Mozilla-Status and X-Mozilla-Status2
is the sum (in hexadecimal arithmetic) of the Value column
from those rows which apply to the message.



Thanks Ralph and Hartmut. Just was curious.

Jim


So was, I after reading the question.  Thanks too.

GW
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Re: How to avoid nuisances in SM 2.17.1 ?

2014-01-18 Thread BIll Spikowski
chicagofan wrote:
 What is going wrong that any time I *backspace* to change a word, or 
 correct spelling in a message, SM will either underline as a misspelled 
 word, or drop the space after.  I'm adjusting to the check spelling 
 underline in correct words, but it's embarrassing for somany messages to 
 go out with spaces missing between words.  It doesn't look that way 
 before I send it. Is there anything I can do to stop this?

 The other annoyance is when I choose to open the browser, it opens ... 
 then often reverts to the mail window?  Is there anything I can do to 
 stop that?  TIA... for any suggestions.  :)
 [Forgot to say, I use HTML in mail.  Are there settings I need to change 
 in this version?]   Is it always Shockwave Flash that is causing that, 
 if it's called for anywhere in a web page?
 bj


I've never experienced any of these problem in any version of SM
(Windows XP here).
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Odd scrolling behavior

2014-01-18 Thread Ed Mullen

Okay, here's a weird one.

Someone was perusing one of my Web sites and said, to paraphrase:

If I click in the vertical scroll bar below the handle (grippy) the 
page scrolls down more than one full screen.


That is, the vast majority of pages (I've checked many) will scroll so 
that the bottom of the first page is now at the top.  The pages on my 
site scroll up past that, so that the content of the initial screen is 
above the top of the page.  Meaning that the user will be missing, not 
see, some content.


I cannot give a definitive example since it depends to some extent upon 
browser window size.  But, try it at, for instance:


http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_combine.php

I only give this page as an example because it requires several 
scroll-downs to see the entire page.


Then try any Amazon.com page.  I haven't found one where it happens.

Oddly, having checked it in:

IE 11
Opera 18
Chrome 32
Safari (Windows) 5
Pale Moon 24 Moz-based
SeaMonkey 2 Moz-based
Firefox 26 Moz-based

only the Moz-based browsers exhibit the problem.

I'm posting here first but it may be an HTML or CSS issue.  Which I 
would then pursue in an appropriate Usenet group.


I have tested this on a varity of sites online and most do not exhibit 
this but several do.


Any thoughts welcome.


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Re: Odd scrolling behavior

2014-01-18 Thread Trane Francks

On 1/19/14 10:05 AM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay, here's a weird one.

Someone was perusing one of my Web sites and said, to paraphrase:

If I click in the vertical scroll bar below the handle (grippy) the
page scrolls down more than one full screen.

That is, the vast majority of pages (I've checked many) will scroll so
that the bottom of the first page is now at the top.  The pages on my
site scroll up past that, so that the content of the initial screen is
above the top of the page.  Meaning that the user will be missing, not
see, some content.

I cannot give a definitive example since it depends to some extent upon
browser window size.  But, try it at, for instance:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_combine.php

I only give this page as an example because it requires several
scroll-downs to see the entire page.

Then try any Amazon.com page.  I haven't found one where it happens.

Oddly, having checked it in:

IE 11
Opera 18
Chrome 32
Safari (Windows) 5
Pale Moon 24 Moz-based
SeaMonkey 2 Moz-based
Firefox 26 Moz-based

only the Moz-based browsers exhibit the problem.

I'm posting here first but it may be an HTML or CSS issue.  Which I
would then pursue in an appropriate Usenet group.

I have tested this on a varity of sites online and most do not exhibit
this but several do.

Any thoughts welcome.




One additional thing.  John Gilliver, who mentioned this to me
origianlly, noted that it only happens when clicking in the scroll bar
space.  It does NOT happen if using the PAGE DOWN key (in Windows).  I
confirmed that.


Interesting. Yes, I've seen this behaviour before. It appears to me that 
clicking inside the scroll bar track bases the page-down behaviour on 
the overall size of the window rather than just the scrolling frame of 
the site. Pressing the space bar to page-down bases the behaviour on the 
frame. I'd call this a bug.


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Re: Odd scrolling behavior

2014-01-18 Thread Ed Mullen

Trane Francks wrote:

On 1/19/14 10:05 AM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay, here's a weird one.

Someone was perusing one of my Web sites and said, to paraphrase:

If I click in the vertical scroll bar below the handle (grippy) the
page scrolls down more than one full screen.

That is, the vast majority of pages (I've checked many) will scroll so
that the bottom of the first page is now at the top.  The pages on my
site scroll up past that, so that the content of the initial screen is
above the top of the page.  Meaning that the user will be missing, not
see, some content.

I cannot give a definitive example since it depends to some extent upon
browser window size.  But, try it at, for instance:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_combine.php

I only give this page as an example because it requires several
scroll-downs to see the entire page.

Then try any Amazon.com page.  I haven't found one where it happens.

Oddly, having checked it in:

IE 11
Opera 18
Chrome 32
Safari (Windows) 5
Pale Moon 24 Moz-based
SeaMonkey 2 Moz-based
Firefox 26 Moz-based

only the Moz-based browsers exhibit the problem.

I'm posting here first but it may be an HTML or CSS issue.  Which I
would then pursue in an appropriate Usenet group.

I have tested this on a varity of sites online and most do not exhibit
this but several do.

Any thoughts welcome.




One additional thing.  John Gilliver, who mentioned this to me
origianlly, noted that it only happens when clicking in the scroll bar
space.  It does NOT happen if using the PAGE DOWN key (in Windows).  I
confirmed that.



Interesting. Yes, I've seen this behaviour before. It appears to me that
clicking inside the scroll bar track bases the page-down behaviour on
the overall size of the window rather than just the scrolling frame of
the site. Pressing the space bar to page-down bases the behaviour on the
frame. I'd call this a bug.



Well, for me, as someone who makes Web pages, I'm keenly interested in 
if there is some bit of HTML or CSS that affects this.  Given that I've 
found sites that don't exhibit this behavior in Moz-based browsers, and 
that sites that do exhibit it only do so in Moz-based browsers, I'm 
kinda stumped.


If no answers here I'll post this to some HTML and CSS newsgroups and 
see what happens.


One of the weirdest things I've seen in decades of involvement in page 
design and Mozilla.


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Re: Odd scrolling behavior

2014-01-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ed Mullen wrote:


Okay, here's a weird one.

Someone was perusing one of my Web sites and said, to paraphrase:

If I click in the vertical scroll bar below the handle (grippy) the
page scrolls down more than one full screen.

...

only the Moz-based browsers exhibit the problem.

I'm posting here first but it may be an HTML or CSS issue.  Which I
would then pursue in an appropriate Usenet group.

I have tested this on a variety of sites online and most do not
exhibit this but several do.

Any thoughts welcome.


I think Trane's on the mark with his comment about the discrepancy 
between page size and frame size. I've seen this for a long time, never 
thought much about it until now. Easily reproduced.


BTW, nice to know we're sort of neighbors (I'm about 10 min. north of 
your alma mater).


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Re: Odd scrolling behavior

2014-01-18 Thread Geoff Welsh

Trane Francks wrote:

On 1/19/14 10:05 AM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay, here's a weird one.

Someone was perusing one of my Web sites and said, to paraphrase:

If I click in the vertical scroll bar below the handle (grippy) the
page scrolls down more than one full screen.

That is, the vast majority of pages (I've checked many) will scroll so
that the bottom of the first page is now at the top.  The pages on my
site scroll up past that, so that the content of the initial screen is
above the top of the page.  Meaning that the user will be missing, not
see, some content.

I cannot give a definitive example since it depends to some extent upon
browser window size.  But, try it at, for instance:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_combine.php

I only give this page as an example because it requires several
scroll-downs to see the entire page.

Then try any Amazon.com page.  I haven't found one where it happens.

Oddly, having checked it in:

IE 11
Opera 18
Chrome 32
Safari (Windows) 5
Pale Moon 24 Moz-based
SeaMonkey 2 Moz-based
Firefox 26 Moz-based

only the Moz-based browsers exhibit the problem.

I'm posting here first but it may be an HTML or CSS issue.  Which I
would then pursue in an appropriate Usenet group.

I have tested this on a varity of sites online and most do not exhibit
this but several do.

Any thoughts welcome.




One additional thing.  John Gilliver, who mentioned this to me
origianlly, noted that it only happens when clicking in the scroll bar
space.  It does NOT happen if using the PAGE DOWN key (in Windows).  I
confirmed that.



Interesting. Yes, I've seen this behaviour before. It appears to me that
clicking inside the scroll bar track bases the page-down behaviour on
the overall size of the window rather than just the scrolling frame of
the site. Pressing the space bar to page-down bases the behaviour on the
frame. I'd call this a bug.



The scroll slider moves to where I click.  I'm not seeing any problem.

GW
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Reply newsgroup/Sender only not working

2014-01-18 Thread PhillipJones
Occasionally when I am either trying to reply to sender or newsgroup or 
group, they suddenly go grey and quit working.  Anyone running into this?


Is there a Bug on Bugzilla about this.

The only cure is to quit SeaMonkey wait until completely quit  then 
restarting.


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Re: Reply newsgroup/Sender only not working

2014-01-18 Thread regz91

PhillipJones wrote:

Occasionally when I am either trying to reply to sender or newsgroup or
group, they suddenly go grey and quit working.  Anyone running into this?

Is there a Bug on Bugzilla about this.

The only cure is to quit SeaMonkey wait until completely quit  then
restarting.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:26.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23


Not seeing this issue at my end

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Re: Reply newsgroup/Sender only not working

2014-01-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

PhillipJones wrote:


Occasionally when I am either trying to reply to sender or newsgroup or
group, they suddenly go grey and quit working.  Anyone running into this?

Is there a Bug on Bugzilla about this.

The only cure is to quit SeaMonkey wait until completely quit  then
restarting.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:26.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23


Not seeing it exactly as you describe. The behavior I observe is 
consistent even through a restart, and options are never grayed out.


In response to a newsgroup message, I can reply to Newsgroup or to 
Sender Only or to All Recipients. However, Reply to Sender and 
Newsgroup populates only the Newsgroup: field and does not create a To: 
field containing the sender, whereas All Recipients catches both.


In response to a mailing list message, where From: is the individual 
sender and To:, Sender:, and Reply-To: are the list address, I can 
Reply, Reply to List, or Reply to All, and in every case I get 
only the list address. If I want to reply to the individual sender, I 
have to insert them manually. In fact, it doesn't seem to matter if To:, 
Sender:, and Reply-To: are all different, only the Reply-To: address is 
honored.


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Re: what does X-Mozilla Status mean?

2014-01-18 Thread Ralph Fox
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:21:45 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 Rob wrote:
 
  Jim no_...@domaininvalid.org wrote:
  I noticed that all the headers for my email that I send out contain:
 
  X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
  X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
 
  Those are not actually in the messages that you send out, only in
  the copies that are in your Sent folder.
 
 Actually, both messages contain these fields, with different values. I 
 sent a message from one of my accounts to another, and found:
 
 The copy in my Sent folder had:
 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
 
 The copy received in the other account had:
 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
 X-Mozilla-Status2: 
 
 Of course, I could change the first value for each by toggling 
 read/unread (pressing M).


Still, those headers are not sent out.  Seamonkey and Thunderbird 
add the headers to the received copy after downloading it.

If you download the same email with a non-Mozilla email program, 
those headers won't be there.


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