Re: mailnews hangs upon startup, or crashes upon startup, or hangs upon receipt of new mail

2014-03-07 Thread Daniel

On 07/03/14 09:49, jmai...@ttec.com wrote:

Best as I can tell there seems to be some kinds of email that seamonkey on 
win32 (version 2.15 - 2.25beta) is allergic to.

When receiving them, it freezes.

If there is a folder with the email, it hangs or crashes upon startup.

I have many many folders and gigs of email and seamonkey usually consumes 2gb 
upon startup for a few minutes while it presumably tries to read all these 
folders.

I have to spend hours finding and removing the folder and then the message, 
some times I also have to do that on the mail system as well.

Is there any way to not go through this enumeration or summarization upon 
startup?


One way would be to move most of your mail out of your e-mail account!!

Each day, I drag my e-mail into one of about ten folders (at the same 
level as the inbox). Then, each year, I move all these sub-folders from 
the e-mail account into similar sub-folders under the Local Folders account.


That way, SeaMonkey is not having to re-index years and years worth of 
e-mails, day after day after day!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211200211


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211195952

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Re: mailnews hangs upon startup, or crashes upon startup, or hangs upon receipt of new mail

2014-03-07 Thread jmaimon
On Friday, March 7, 2014 3:35:00 AM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
 On 07/03/14 09:49, jmai...@ttec.com wrote:
 
  Best as I can tell there seems to be some kinds of email that seamonkey on 
  win32 (version 2.15 - 2.25beta) is allergic to.
 
 
 
  When receiving them, it freezes.
 
 
 
  If there is a folder with the email, it hangs or crashes upon startup.
 
 
 
  I have many many folders and gigs of email and seamonkey usually consumes 
  2gb upon startup for a few minutes while it presumably tries to read all 
  these folders.
 
 
 
  I have to spend hours finding and removing the folder and then the message, 
  some times I also have to do that on the mail system as well.
 
 
 
  Is there any way to not go through this enumeration or summarization upon 
  startup?
 
 
 
 One way would be to move most of your mail out of your e-mail account!!
 
 
 
 Each day, I drag my e-mail into one of about ten folders (at the same 
 
 level as the inbox). Then, each year, I move all these sub-folders from 
 
 the e-mail account into similar sub-folders under the Local Folders account.
 
 
 
 That way, SeaMonkey is not having to re-index years and years worth of 
 
 e-mails, day after day after day!
 
 
 
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 Daniel
 
 
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 
 
 Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211200211
 
 
 
 or
 
 
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 
 
 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211195952

95% of my mail is not in my inbox.

Are you saying that Local Folders is treated differently then folders rooted 
under an email account?
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Re: mailnews hangs upon startup, or crashes upon startup, or hangs upon receipt of new mail

2014-03-07 Thread Daniel

On 08/03/14 00:27, jmai...@ttec.com wrote:

On Friday, March 7, 2014 3:35:00 AM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:

On 07/03/14 09:49, jmai...@ttec.com wrote:


Best as I can tell there seems to be some kinds of email that seamonkey on 
win32 (version 2.15 - 2.25beta) is allergic to.







When receiving them, it freezes.







If there is a folder with the email, it hangs or crashes upon startup.







I have many many folders and gigs of email and seamonkey usually consumes 2gb 
upon startup for a few minutes while it presumably tries to read all these 
folders.







I have to spend hours finding and removing the folder and then the message, 
some times I also have to do that on the mail system as well.







Is there any way to not go through this enumeration or summarization upon 
startup?




One way would be to move most of your mail out of your e-mail account!!



Each day, I drag my e-mail into one of about ten folders (at the same

level as the inbox). Then, each year, I move all these sub-folders from

the e-mail account into similar sub-folders under the Local Folders account.



That way, SeaMonkey is not having to re-index years and years worth of

e-mails, day after day after day!



--

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101

Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211200211



or



User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101

SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211195952


95% of my mail is not in my inbox.

Are you saying that Local Folders is treated differently then folders rooted 
under an email account?


Yes, I think SM only indexes those accounts that are open when it is 
started up. If the Local Folders is closed (i.e. just shows as Local 
Folders), it doesn't get re-indexed.


Another possibility would be to Compact your folders. When you move an 
e-mail out of the inbox into another folder, it's not really moved but 
copied into the other folder. Then, if you File-Empty Trash *and* 
File-Compact Files, all the space used by the copied e-mails is re-claimed.


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Firefox/28.0 SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211200211


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.25 Build identifier: 20140211195952

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Fwd: [seamonkey-users] members

2014-03-07 Thread Charlie Siracuse


---BeginMessage---
cmon people!  lets get some more members before they remove our 
seamonkey group.
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'sys_page_size == 0' failed

2014-03-07 Thread GerardJan

Dear friends,
By staring seamonkey I got the follow error message:

(process:21956): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 
'sys_page_size == 0' failed


should I be worried about this?

regards,

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Re: 'sys_page_size == 0' failed

2014-03-07 Thread Philip Taylor


gertjan.vinkeste...@nospam.gmail.com wrote:


By star[t]ing seamonkey I got the follow error message:

(process:21956): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
'sys_page_size == 0' failed

should I be worried about this?


If it prevents you from using Seamonkey, then yes.
Perhaps read :

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833117

to be better informed of one possible cause.

Philip Taylor
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Re: 'sys_page_size == 0' failed

2014-03-07 Thread Hartmut Figge
GerardJan:

By staring seamonkey I got the follow error message:

(process:21956): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 
'sys_page_size == 0' failed

I have this message since a very long time.

- run-log.txt -
(process:3044): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
`sys_page_size == 0' failed
---

should I be worried about this?

My SM is not troubled by this.

Hartmut
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Re: Please explain why Seamonkey Nightly is no longer building for Linux systems

2014-03-07 Thread brian . masinick
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:03:31 PM UTC-5, brian.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am currently using the following Seamonkey Nightly Build:
 
 
 
 You are currently on the nightly update channel.
 
 See a list of contributors to the Mozilla Project.
 
 Read the licensing information for this product.
 
 Read the release notes for this version.
 
 See the build configuration used for this version.
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 
 Firefox/27.0 SeaMonkey/2.24a1
 
 Build identifier: 20130919003001
 
 
 
 This build works very well, but it has also been static since September 19.  
 I also notice that Aurora builds for all platforms ceased updates after 
 October 28.  Are there build issues, lack of resources, or what?  I am not a 
 Seamonkey developer but I've been testing Mozilla builds of Seamonkey and 
 Firefox for quite some time now.  The Firefox Nightly Builds continue to be 
 available for my hardware, just not the Seamonkey builds.
 
 
 
 Any particular reason for this?  While I use both browsers, I do still tend 
 to favor Seamonkey; for my specific interests and needs it works particularly 
 well, so I'm concerned about its current and future support.  I'd appreciate 
 an update, thanks!
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 Brian Masinick

Well, we were able to get nightly builds for the Linux platforms for a while, 
but they stopped building after 02/14/2014 for both the i686 and x86_64 
architectures.  There does not seem to be this problem with the Firefox Nightly 
Builds.

Is there an issue with building that might be resolved by collaborating with 
the Linux Firefox Nightly Build team (or is there very little in common between 
the two groups)?

I use both Firefox Nightly and Seamonkey Nightly, but it's Seamonkey that I'm 
most interested in getting the nightly builds, yet it's Seamonkey that seems 
most limited in the resources to keep consistent builds.

I wish I could help with the builds; I can't, but I can certainly help with the 
testing and reporting.

Does anyone know what's preventing the Linux Seamonkey Nightly Builds from 
taking place?  (Windows seems to get built nearly on a daily basis; the Mac 
platform has occasional issues, but both Linux platforms seem to have fairly 
consistent build issues).  Is a resolution forthcoming?

IF it is not a known issue, then I apologize for not raising it much sooner; I 
don't want to constantly complain, but I really would like to have regular 
Seamonkey Nightly builds for Linux.

What is the cause for the lack of builds, and what are the plans to resolve it?

Thanks!
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Re: Please explain why Seamonkey Nightly is no longer building for Linux systems

2014-03-07 Thread WaltS

On 03/07/2014 10:52 AM, brian.masin...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:03:31 PM UTC-5, brian.m...@gmail.com wrote:

I am currently using the following Seamonkey Nightly Build:



You are currently on the nightly update channel.

See a list of contributors to the Mozilla Project.

Read the licensing information for this product.

Read the release notes for this version.

See the build configuration used for this version.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/27.0 
SeaMonkey/2.24a1

Build identifier: 20130919003001



This build works very well, but it has also been static since September 19.  I 
also notice that Aurora builds for all platforms ceased updates after October 
28.  Are there build issues, lack of resources, or what?  I am not a Seamonkey 
developer but I've been testing Mozilla builds of Seamonkey and Firefox for 
quite some time now.  The Firefox Nightly Builds continue to be available for 
my hardware, just not the Seamonkey builds.



Any particular reason for this?  While I use both browsers, I do still tend to 
favor Seamonkey; for my specific interests and needs it works particularly 
well, so I'm concerned about its current and future support.  I'd appreciate an 
update, thanks!



--

Brian Masinick


Well, we were able to get nightly builds for the Linux platforms for a while, 
but they stopped building after 02/14/2014 for both the i686 and x86_64 
architectures.  There does not seem to be this problem with the Firefox Nightly 
Builds.

Is there an issue with building that might be resolved by collaborating with 
the Linux Firefox Nightly Build team (or is there very little in common between 
the two groups)?

I use both Firefox Nightly and Seamonkey Nightly, but it's Seamonkey that I'm 
most interested in getting the nightly builds, yet it's Seamonkey that seems 
most limited in the resources to keep consistent builds.

I wish I could help with the builds; I can't, but I can certainly help with the 
testing and reporting.

Does anyone know what's preventing the Linux Seamonkey Nightly Builds from 
taking place?  (Windows seems to get built nearly on a daily basis; the Mac 
platform has occasional issues, but both Linux platforms seem to have fairly 
consistent build issues).  Is a resolution forthcoming?

IF it is not a known issue, then I apologize for not raising it much sooner; I 
don't want to constantly complain, but I really would like to have regular 
Seamonkey Nightly builds for Linux.

What is the cause for the lack of builds, and what are the plans to resolve it?

Thanks!




See the Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree section.

https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/1710
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How to turn off SeaMonkey mail client.

2014-03-07 Thread jean Wylie
Please tell me how to disable SeaMonkey insisting that it be used as mail 
client. Only article I've found on line refers to setting 
network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to true but that preference is not 
there when I do about:config. Thank you.
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SM 2.23 mail client image EXIF orientation disable

2014-03-07 Thread User

According to the SM 2.23 release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.23/#new

Images in the mail / news client observes the EXIF orientation value. Does
anyone know whether there are about:config parameters that can be adjusted to
disable the mail client from observing the EXIF orientation value? I'd like to
know when an image's original raster orientation is incorrect and have it
displayed in raw orientation regardless of what the EXIF value indicates.
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SM 2.24 browser multi-tab session restore failure

2014-03-07 Thread User
Summary - SM 2.24 browser does not always save a full snapshot of a browser tab 
and this results in some web sites having to be re-logged in again after session 
restore.


I recently upgraded from SM 2.21 to SM 2.24. In general, everything works fine 
on 2.24, the upgrade was smooth as usual. However, I have noticed that SM 2.24's 
browser tab restore now fails with some content where 2.21 did not fail before. 
This involves sites which requires log in. Often, I may close the SM browser 
with several tabs open, and then also close all other SM related windows to 
completely shut down the application, wait 5 to 10 seconds and then restart the 
SM browser window. This practice releases Windoww system resources and any 
potential memory leaks, as well as stops the SM mail client from checking 
e-mails at multiple accounts that I typed my password into during the last 
session (i.e. no more new mail check / alerts to disturb the user).


With this practice, the first web site that SM 2.24 browser failed to fully save 
its state is with OUTLOOK.COM. Previously with SM 2.21, when the session was 
restored (anywhere from 10 seconds to 10 or 15 minutes after closing the browser 
with multiple tabs and saving the session), I was able to get back into 
outlook.com web mail without having to re-login again. However, with SM 2.24, it 
seems to discard some private information and when I restore the multi-tab 
browser session, I am prompted by outlook.com to re-login again.


Does anyone know what has changed in the browser session save that may cause SM 
2.24 browser to leave out some parts of private data that would cause a failure 
of full browser tab restore with scenarios such as this? I have other web sites 
that requires log in and SM 2.24 restored them without problems but it seems 
that SM 2.24 is not saving some parts of the browser tab in the session snapshot 
which causes some sites to re-prompt for login again after browser session restore.


If anyone using outlook.com could test this problem by first logging into their 
outlook.com web mail account, then opening multiple tabs, closing the SM 2.24 
browser to save all tabs and then restarting the browser to see if they could 
regain access to outlook.com web mail, I would appreciate hearing any feedback / 
confirmations of this problem.


I have checked my CLEAR PRIVATE DATA settings in PREFERENCES, I previously had 
it set to auto clear private data but the only data I selected to clear was 
browser cache contents, which did not affect the older version SM 2.21 in always 
being able to fully restore all browser tabs without having to log in. But in SM 
2.24, even though I have the CLEAR PRIVATE DATA disabled, this problem is not 
resolved and I believe the problem has to do with how SM 2.24 saves browser tab 
contents that is causing certain tabs with log in data to be lost in the session 
save.

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Re: SM 2.24 browser multi-tab session restore failure

2014-03-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

User wrote:


Summary - SM 2.24 browser does not always save a full snapshot of a
browser tab and this results in some web sites having to be re-logged
in again after session restore.

...

I have checked my CLEAR PRIVATE DATA settings in PREFERENCES, I
previously had it set to auto clear private data but the only data I
selected to clear was browser cache contents, which did not affect
the older version SM 2.21 in always being able to fully restore all
browser tabs without having to log in. But in SM 2.24, even though I
have the CLEAR PRIVATE DATA disabled, this problem is not resolved
and I believe the problem has to do with how SM 2.24 saves browser
tab contents that is causing certain tabs with log in data to be lost
in the session save.


One possibility -- which only you can check -- is that the cookies in 
question expired in the interim. Not all cookies are designed to last 
until 2039. So if you restored after their expiration date, the expired 
cookies would be rejected by the server and it would ask you to login again.


Also worth looking at your cookie defaults and site-specific permissions 
-- if you're only accepting session cookies, they should not survive a 
program termination (by definition), even if you don't have SM set to 
clear cookies on termination.


There may be other possibilities I haven't thought of. Keep reading.

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