Re: Tabs

2014-03-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

F Murtz wrote:


In the past in sea monkey it used to shut the page you were looking at,
now it carries on about you have x no. of pages open do you want to shut
the lot down, If you dont you have to right click on each one in turn
then make another click to remove it, I wish to be able to have as many
pages as I want and only remove the one currently on with one click on
the X button, which I have been doing since I first got sea monkey until
some bright spark came up with this latest malarkey, upsetting my
equilibrium.


In that case, it's not the red X you want, but the smaller plain one an 
inch below it. SM will close the current tab without complaining and 
without affecting the others.


If you don't like tabbed browsing and want every page to open in a 
separate window as they used to, there are options here:

Edit | Preferences | Browser | Link Behavior

If you set them so SeaMonkey always opens all links in new windows, then 
you can go on using the red X as before. I personally find it easier to 
navigate among many open tabs than many open windows, but YMMV.


And of course Ctrl-W still works as before -- it closes the current page 
while leaving the rest open. If the current page is the last one, the 
whole browser will terminate; you won't get a title bar over an empty 
window. If you want to close the whole suite in one go, no matter how 
many mail or browser windows it has open, use Ctrl-Q. You won't be 
warned or prompted, it'll just vanish.


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Re: Back - Forward error in Browser drop downs.

2014-03-15 Thread Daniel

On 15/03/14 00:07, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 14/03/14 19:29, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 14/03/14 01:58, Ed Mullen wrote:


If you're seeing multiple Google Maps URLs it's probably because
each search you do on the maps page actually loads a unique URL
even though, to you, you feel like you're on the same page.


Ah!! So when I Zoom in, that's a new URL request. O.K., thanks Ed,
can't say I've noticed it before.


No, zoom and pan don't create new URLs, but a new address search does.


Paul, on the Google Maps page I'm referring to,
https://maps.google.com.au/maps, it has the +/- scale changing thingee
to Zoom in/out.

It's this zooming in/out that I thought Ed was saying required new URL
requests, therefore appearing in the Back/Forward drop-down lists.

Am I still wrong??


The phrase he used was each search you do. That seems clear enough to
me. And from experience I know that the forward/back operations do not
take you to the next/previous zoom level if you have changed the zoom,
but to the next/previous address search.


I don't recall having done previous searches, but will try to remember 
to check next time!


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Re: email formatting question...

2014-03-15 Thread Daniel

On 15/03/14 08:11, EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 12/03/14 20:30, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


If you wish to apply the effect (Bold, Underline and Italics) to the
odd
word  or to a few words in individual *Text* e-mails, you can use
*asterics for bold* , _Underscores for underlining_ and /Slants for
Italics/ .


Hmm! I wonder why the /Italics/ didn't work?? Must be wrong symbol!!


Your slashes had the desired effect here. So did the asterisks and
underscores. I've noticed their failures when either of the adjacent
characters is not a letter, found it mildly annoying but not a big
enough issue to spend time on it. Dunno how they look in other programs.


Paul, in my own message that I was replying to above, (in the bit that I
deleted) I also mentioned about the adjacent character had to be a
letter for the effect to work  but, it would seem, slants have a
further problem as /Slants for Italics/ doesn't come out in Italics but
/Italics/ did!!


Both come out in italics!


Yes, because, at this level of quoting, they both begin and end on the 
same line, i.e. no CRLF characters with-in the slants.


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Re: Seamonkey performance issue

2014-03-15 Thread Daniel

On 15/03/14 07:54, NFN Smith wrote:

I have an odd/frustrating performance problem with Seamonkey 2.24
(although I've been seeing this for several previous versions), running
on Windows 7 Professional.  Computer is a bit old, running an Intel
Mobile Core 2 Duo processor, and has 8 GB of RAM.

I use Seamonkey for both browser and mail/news, as well as occasional
work with the HTML composer tool.

Symptoms:

There are times when I'm working in Seamonkey, and I get temporary
freezes (typically 10-20 seconds), where Seamonkey refuses any kind of
input from either keyboard or mouse.  When this happens, I can use
Alt-Tab to move from window to Window, but if I do a mouse-over, putting
the pointer over a Seamonkey icon in the Windows Taskbar, most of the
windows show a wait cursor.  This happens whether I'm working in the
mail client, the browser, or even the composer.  Sometimes, when this
happens, I'll get a switch of focus from one open Seamonkey window to
another (e.g., I'm composing an email message, and suddenly the focus
switches to the browser window).

When the problem happens, I'm not seeing any indication of overall
performance issues on the machine, just Seamonkey.  A check of the
Windows Task Manager often shows relatively high CPU usage (up to about
50%) by Seamonkey, whether Seamonkey's memory usage is a few hundred MB,
or over a GB.  Restarting Seamonkey seems not to have any effect.


I use Seamonkey on a number of machines, both Windows and Linux, but
this is the only place where I'm seeing this issue.  This is my primary
working profile.  I typically have 5-10 browser tabs open at a time.  In
mail, I have 4 POP accounts active (no IMAP), as well as 4 news servers
defined, and a varying number of newsgroup subscriptions.

I know that the normal first thing to do when addressing performance
issues is to disable extensions (and I have about 30 extensions active),
but I'm finding pretty much the same behavior if I run in Safe Mode.
I've also seen and worked through suggestions relating to Flash
(including disabling the Flash plugin), but no improvement there, either.

To me, this one indicates some sort of background process that's active
(possibly related to mail), but I can't identify it.

I would consider my user profile to not be overly big -- even with a lot
of stored mail from POP accounts, the profile is less than 1 GB, and I'm
pretty aggressive about keeping my Inbox and trash folders pared down.

Given timing of the problem (sometimes, two or three times in an hour),
I'm wondering if there might be something related to POP settings.  In
my main working account I have quite a few mail filters active, most for
delivering received content to folders, as well as several search
folders active.

Any ideas of what's happening, and how I might identify what's causing
this?

Smith

Smithy, about the only thing I could suggest would be to compact your 
mail folders ... File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders.


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Re: UTF-16 Encoding doesn't work

2014-03-15 Thread Ray_Net

NoOp wrote, On 15/03/2014 03:25:

On 03/14/2014 07:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

NoOp wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/27.0 SeaMonkey/2.24
Build identifier: 20140203230449

Received an email today from a US government agency that is encoded with:

...

Reset Password
Dear user,
Click on the link below to reset your password.
Reset Password
This link will expire in 24 hours.
Kind Regards,
Human Resources
THIS IS AN AUTOMATIC SYSTEM GENERATED EMAIL. PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO
THIS MESSAGE.

(No link actually appears in the Opera)

I would take one look at that and flag it as junk; it looks like the
last five phishing attempts that crossed my desk. Do you have any reason
to believe it's legit and worth your time?


Actually it's not junk/phishing at all - it's a valid email from
usps.gov and is a response to my request to reset a password.



Why should this gov ... use utf16 ? Why not utf32 to be sure that we 
cannot read their mail  ? !!! :-)


Normally it would be better to encode such  a mail in pure text usascii ...
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Re: UTF-16 Encoding doesn't work

2014-03-15 Thread Philip Taylor



Ray_Net wrote:


Normally it would be better to encode such  a mail in pure text usascii ...


Or Morse code, or Cuneiform; after all, both of those were perfect for
the era during which they were invented, just as ASCII was.

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Re: Tabs

2014-03-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/15/2014 12:07 AM, F Murtz wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 F Murtz wrote:

 In the past in sea monkey it used to shut the page you were looking at,
 now it carries on about you have x no. of pages open do you want to shut
 the lot down, If you dont you have to right click on each one in turn
 then make another click to remove it, I wish to be able to have as many
 pages as I want and only remove the one currently on with one click on
 the X button, which I have been doing since I first got sea monkey until
 some bright spark came up with this latest malarkey, upsetting my
 equilibrium.

 In that case, it's not the red X you want, but the smaller plain one an
 inch below it. SM will close the current tab without complaining and
 without affecting the others.

 If you don't like tabbed browsing and want every page to open in a
 separate window as they used to, there are options here:
 Edit | Preferences | Browser | Link Behavior

 If you set them so SeaMonkey always opens all links in new windows, then
 you can go on using the red X as before. I personally find it easier to
 navigate among many open tabs than many open windows, but YMMV.

 And of course Ctrl-W still works as before -- it closes the current page
 while leaving the rest open. If the current page is the last one, the
 whole browser will terminate; you won't get a title bar over an empty
 window. If you want to close the whole suite in one go, no matter how
 many mail or browser windows it has open, use Ctrl-Q. You won't be
 warned or prompted, it'll just vanish.

 The black x will do, did not see it, just used to the old way,they keep 
 changing things ,leaving one to guess and work out the new way to be 
 able to do the same thing they have always done.
 

Windows 7 (x64)
SeaMonkey/2.24

This whole thread puzzles me.  Since tabbed browsing was introduced as
an inherent feature in SeaMonkey (not via an extension), I have not seen
any change in how tabs are closed.  There is an X at the far right of
the tab bar that, when selected, closes the current tab.  By current,
I mean the tab whose content is in the view port (window).

I much prefer this over having an X on each tab, as Thunderbird has.
With my old eyes and hands, an X on each tab means I might close a tab
when I really wanted to select and view the tab to its right.

I have no red X.  I do have a white X in a red button, but that stops
the currently loading page from rendering.

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Re: Tabs

2014-03-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 (x64)
SeaMonkey/2.24

This whole thread puzzles me.  Since tabbed browsing was introduced as
an inherent feature in SeaMonkey (not via an extension), I have not seen
any change in how tabs are closed.  There is an X at the far right of
the tab bar that, when selected, closes the current tab.  By current,
I mean the tab whose content is in the view port (window).

I much prefer this over having an X on each tab, as Thunderbird has.
With my old eyes and hands, an X on each tab means I might close a tab
when I really wanted to select and view the tab to its right.

I have no red X.  I do have a white X in a red button, but that stops
the currently loading page from rendering.


Sure you do, at the top right corner of every Windows 7 application, 
including SeaMonkey. (Well, actually, it's a white X on a red tile, but 
let's not be too picky).


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Re: Tabs

2014-03-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/15/2014 9:03 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 
 Windows 7 (x64)
 SeaMonkey/2.24

 This whole thread puzzles me.  Since tabbed browsing was introduced as
 an inherent feature in SeaMonkey (not via an extension), I have not seen
 any change in how tabs are closed.  There is an X at the far right of
 the tab bar that, when selected, closes the current tab.  By current,
 I mean the tab whose content is in the view port (window).

 I much prefer this over having an X on each tab, as Thunderbird has.
 With my old eyes and hands, an X on each tab means I might close a tab
 when I really wanted to select and view the tab to its right.

 I have no red X.  I do have a white X in a red button, but that stops
 the currently loading page from rendering.
 
 Sure you do, at the top right corner of every Windows 7 application, 
 including SeaMonkey. (Well, actually, it's a white X on a red tile, but 
 let's not be too picky).
 

No, that is a black X on a gray button.  That is for closing the window.
 Immediately to its left is the button to change the window between
full-screen and normal.  Immediately to the left of that is the button
that minimizes the window to the taskbar.  Each of these is a black
symbol on a gray button.

Of course, I have tweaked Windows 7 to make it look somewhat like
Windows XP.  I think the default appearance of Windows 7 is hideous.
But none of that is a SeaMonkey issue.

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Re: Picture doesn't display in Seamonkey 2.24

2014-03-15 Thread Geoff Welsh

EE wrote:

Ron wrote:

http://ulocal.wmur.com/mediadetail/18215187-Snowy-Owl-%26-others-in-Rye%2C-NH?gid=76457uid=sort=upload%20DESCoffset=37



The box under the Snowy Owl  others in Rye, NH box should show the
picture. Works in IE 9


Works for me with SM 2.24.  I see the snowy owl.



works in 2.23 also.  It's a regular image, no tricks.  Right-click on 
image reveals URL:


http://storage.filemobile.com/storage/18215187/15

I heard it's pronounced New HAMP-shuh by a native once.
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Re: Tabs

2014-03-15 Thread Geoff Welsh

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/15/2014 12:07 AM, F Murtz wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

F Murtz wrote:


In the past in sea monkey it used to shut the page you were looking at,
now it carries on about you have x no. of pages open do you want to shut
the lot down, If you dont you have to right click on each one in turn
then make another click to remove it, I wish to be able to have as many
pages as I want and only remove the one currently on with one click on
the X button, which I have been doing since I first got sea monkey until
some bright spark came up with this latest malarkey, upsetting my
equilibrium.


In that case, it's not the red X you want, but the smaller plain one an
inch below it. SM will close the current tab without complaining and
without affecting the others.

If you don't like tabbed browsing and want every page to open in a
separate window as they used to, there are options here:
Edit | Preferences | Browser | Link Behavior

If you set them so SeaMonkey always opens all links in new windows, then
you can go on using the red X as before. I personally find it easier to
navigate among many open tabs than many open windows, but YMMV.

And of course Ctrl-W still works as before -- it closes the current page
while leaving the rest open. If the current page is the last one, the
whole browser will terminate; you won't get a title bar over an empty
window. If you want to close the whole suite in one go, no matter how
many mail or browser windows it has open, use Ctrl-Q. You won't be
warned or prompted, it'll just vanish.


The black x will do, did not see it, just used to the old way,they keep
changing things ,leaving one to guess and work out the new way to be
able to do the same thing they have always done.



Windows 7 (x64)
SeaMonkey/2.24

This whole thread puzzles me.  .


he must have some Theme that broke with an update (???)

GW

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STOP - Please take me off your mailing list, thank you!

2014-03-15 Thread Alexander Lau
Seamonkey Team
Dear Sir / Madam:
Please take me off your mailing list, thank you very much!
 shatin...@yahoo.com
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Re: Seamonkey performance issue

2014-03-15 Thread stan pierce

NFN Smith wrote:

I have an odd/frustrating performance problem with Seamonkey 2.24
(although I've been seeing this for several previous versions), running
on Windows 7 Professional.  Computer is a bit old, running an Intel
Mobile Core 2 Duo processor, and has 8 GB of RAM.

I use Seamonkey for both browser and mail/news, as well as occasional
work with the HTML composer tool.

Symptoms:

There are times when I'm working in Seamonkey, and I get temporary
freezes (typically 10-20 seconds), where Seamonkey refuses any kind of
input from either keyboard or mouse.  When this happens, I can use
Alt-Tab to move from window to Window, but if I do a mouse-over, putting
the pointer over a Seamonkey icon in the Windows Taskbar, most of the
windows show a wait cursor.  This happens whether I'm working in the
mail client, the browser, or even the composer.  Sometimes, when this
happens, I'll get a switch of focus from one open Seamonkey window to
another (e.g., I'm composing an email message, and suddenly the focus
switches to the browser window).

When the problem happens, I'm not seeing any indication of overall
performance issues on the machine, just Seamonkey.  A check of the
Windows Task Manager often shows relatively high CPU usage (up to about
50%) by Seamonkey, whether Seamonkey's memory usage is a few hundred MB,
or over a GB.  Restarting Seamonkey seems not to have any effect.


I use Seamonkey on a number of machines, both Windows and Linux, but
this is the only place where I'm seeing this issue.  This is my primary
working profile.  I typically have 5-10 browser tabs open at a time.  In
mail, I have 4 POP accounts active (no IMAP), as well as 4 news servers
defined, and a varying number of newsgroup subscriptions.

I know that the normal first thing to do when addressing performance
issues is to disable extensions (and I have about 30 extensions active),
but I'm finding pretty much the same behavior if I run in Safe Mode.
I've also seen and worked through suggestions relating to Flash
(including disabling the Flash plugin), but no improvement there, either.

To me, this one indicates some sort of background process that's active
(possibly related to mail), but I can't identify it.

I would consider my user profile to not be overly big -- even with a lot
of stored mail from POP accounts, the profile is less than 1 GB, and I'm
pretty aggressive about keeping my Inbox and trash folders pared down.

Given timing of the problem (sometimes, two or three times in an hour),
I'm wondering if there might be something related to POP settings.  In
my main working account I have quite a few mail filters active, most for
delivering received content to folders, as well as several search
folders active.

Any ideas of what's happening, and how I might identify what's causing
this?

Smith

I'm getting these problems to the point of my system being unusable. 
Often I notice that something is being transferred and checking Google 
find that the site of the transfer is one of the sites where info is 
duplicated for faster access. For example, akamaihd.net. I seem to run 
OK if I switch to using I.E.

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Re: STOP - Please take me off your mailing list, thank you!

2014-03-15 Thread WaltS

On 03/15/2014 06:44 PM, Alexander Lau wrote:

Seamonkey Team
Dear Sir / Madam:
Please take me off your mailing list, thank you very much!
  shatin...@yahoo.com




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Re: STOP - Please take me off your mailing list, thank you!

2014-03-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Alexander Lau wrote:

 Seamonkey Team Dear Sir / Madam:
 Please take me off your mailing list, thank you very much!
  shatin...@yahoo.com

How to do that is right in the headers of your post:

List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
subject=unsubscribe

So send another email to support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org
Use the word unsubscribe for the Subject of the email.

Nobody else can do that for you.

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Re: UTF-16 Encoding doesn't work

2014-03-15 Thread Ray_Net

Philip Taylor wrote, On 15/03/2014 16:34:



Ray_Net wrote:

Normally it would be better to encode such  a mail in pure text 
usascii ...


Or Morse code, or Cuneiform; after all, both of those were perfect for
the era during which they were invented, just as ASCII was.

Philip Taylor
I was just telling that everybody now in this era can read pure text ... 
and may be not utf16 
BTW Why using utf16 when there is no specials characters needed in such 
a mail ?

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Re: Picture doesn't display in Seamonkey 2.24

2014-03-15 Thread PhillipJones

EE wrote:

Ron wrote:

http://ulocal.wmur.com/mediadetail/18215187-Snowy-Owl-%26-others-in-Rye%2C-NH?gid=76457uid=sort=upload%20DESCoffset=37



The box under the Snowy Owl  others in Rye, NH box should show the
picture. Works in IE 9


Works for me with SM 2.24.  I see the snowy owl.


 Works for me.

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Re: STOP - Please take me off your mailing list, thank you!

2014-03-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/15/2014 4:26 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Alexander Lau wrote:
 
 Seamonkey Team Dear Sir / Madam:
 Please take me off your mailing list, thank you very much!
  shatin...@yahoo.com
 
 How to do that is right in the headers of your post:
 
 List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
   mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
 subject=unsubscribe
 
 So send another email to support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org
 Use the word unsubscribe for the Subject of the email.
 
 Nobody else can do that for you.
 

Perhaps no one should be allowed to subscribe to a Mozilla mailing list
unless they first certify that they understand how to unsubscribe.

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Lost profile

2014-03-15 Thread stan pierce
I decided to create a new profile to see if this would get rid of some 
problems. I used the profile manager and it did not show my existing 
profile. What happened as now I couldn't get back to it?


Fortunately I had backed it up and could restore it but what happened to 
make it disappear?

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Re: STOP - Please take me off your mailing list, thank you!

2014-03-15 Thread Mr. Ed
On 3/15/2014 7:56 PM David E. Ross submitted the following:
 On 3/15/2014 4:26 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Alexander Lau wrote:

 Seamonkey Team Dear Sir / Madam:
 Please take me off your mailing list, thank you very much!
  shatin...@yahoo.com

 How to do that is right in the headers of your post:

 List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
  mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
 subject=unsubscribe

 So send another email to support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org
 Use the word unsubscribe for the Subject of the email.

 Nobody else can do that for you.

 
 Perhaps no one should be allowed to subscribe to a Mozilla mailing list
 unless they first certify that they understand how to unsubscribe.
 

A prerequisite to 'certifying' would be the ability to read.

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Re: Tabs

2014-03-15 Thread Philip Chee
On 15/03/2014 15:07, F Murtz wrote:

 The black x will do, did not see it, just used to the old way,they keep 
 changing things ,leaving one to guess and work out the new way to be 
 able to do the same thing they have always done.

The black X has been there since it was the Mozilla Suite / Netscape
Communicator.

Phil

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