Re: Warning: Old SeaMonkey

2014-09-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/29/2014 5:20 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 09/29/2014 03:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 Windows 7 (x64)
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1

 I have four SeaMonkey profiles, one of which is intended for guests to
 use.  When that profile is launched, there is a red bar just above the
 view port with the message Your copy of SeaMonkey is old and probably
 has known security flaws, but you have disabled automated update checks.
  Please update to a newer version.  To the right of that message is a
 Check for Updates button.  This occurs whether all 15 extensions I
 installed in that profile are enabled or I launch in Safe Mode.

 This happens only with the guest profile and none of the other three
 profiles, all of which are running from the same SeaMonkey version.  I
 cannot see what I have configured differently between this guest profile
 and my usual default profile.

 Please suggest what I might check to resolve this.  No, I do not want to
 upgrade and experience Password Manager problems.

 
 Probably related:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581319
 http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/609b77dd2e8a
 
 check about:config for:
 app.update.lastUpdateTime.background-update-timer
 

From those links, it appears that users are given a warning if they
disable automatic updates and it has been more than 90 days since the
last installed update.  Given there were 83 days between consecutive
SeaMonkey versions 2.26.1 and 2.29, is not 90 days a bit tight?

Also, I installed SeaMonkey 2.29 on 7 September.  Then I removed it by
reinstalling SeaMonkey 2.26 on 9 September, which I then updated to
2.26.1 on 25 September.  (See my signature below for why I did this.)
Thus, it was less than 90 days since I last installed an update.

Suddenly, the problem has disappeared.  My guest profile and one other
profile now have values for that preference variable that is today,
later than the values for the other two profiles.  The other two have 24
September and 26 September.  Something seems to be broken in how
app.update.lastUpdateTime.background-update-timer gets updated.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.
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Re: Seamonkey as .deb package

2014-09-30 Thread Bret Busby

On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:


Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:05:21
From: Barry Edwin Gilmour barrygilm...@bigpond.com
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Subject: Re: Seamonkey as .deb package

Bret Busby wrote on 08/18/2014 01:48 PM:

Hello.

I am hoping that I have not previously posted this query to this list.

As the Debian Project has omitted iceape, its derivative of Seamonkey, from 
Debian 7, I am wondering what is the prospect of Seamonkey being released 
as a .deb package for installation on Debian 7.


I had tried installing the Seamonkey tarball, according to the published 
instructions, and could not then get Seamonkey to work.


As a .deb package, software is usually installed, with all dependencies 
taken care of, and the launch link, added to the appropriate desktop menu, 
so it makes it all, relatively simple.


The system upon which I was unable to get Seamonkey to work (and I am not 
sure that it properly installed), is Debian 7 amd64 LXDE.


I note that, on the web page at
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
the download for MS Windows, is a .exe installer, so I suppose that what I 
am seeking, is the equivalent, as a .deb package for Debian 7 amd64 .


Thank you in anticipation.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
...

So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992
.

http://main.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/testrepo/pool/test/s/seamonkey/
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Hello.

Thank you for the link.

However, of all of the packages listed on that web page, which is/are 
the one(s) that I need to download and install, to get the full 
Seamonkey suite installed on the particular system?


Thank you in anticipation.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992

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Re: Seamonkey as .deb package

2014-09-30 Thread NoOp
On 08/17/2014 10:48 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I am hoping that I have not previously posted this query to this list.
 
 As the Debian Project has omitted iceape, its derivative of Seamonkey, 
 from Debian 7, I am wondering what is the prospect of Seamonkey being 
 released as a .deb package for installation on Debian 7.
 
 I had tried installing the Seamonkey tarball, according to the published 
 instructions, and could not then get Seamonkey to work.

You don't need a .deb. All you need to do is create a
/home/user/seamonkey directory, copy the tarball to that directory,
extract it there, and then run
$ /home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey
Create a menu link with the same, and select the icon from
$/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default.png
Doesn't get much simpler than that.

If you can't figure out how to create a menu entry, you can drop this
into a gedit file into

#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open

[Desktop Entry]
Categories=GTK;Network;
GenericName=Internet Suite
Icon[en_US]=/home/yourusernamehere/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/seamonkey.png
NoDisplay=false
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Exec=/home/yourusernamehere/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey %u
Name[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Name=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Comment[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Comment=Mozilla SeaMonkey

 
 As a .deb package, software is usually installed, with all dependencies 
 taken care of, and the launch link, added to the appropriate desktop 
 menu, so it makes it all, relatively simple.
 
 The system upon which I was unable to get Seamonkey to work (and I am 
 not sure that it properly installed), is Debian 7 amd64 LXDE.

Use the 64bit tarball:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.29.1
  Bottom of page:

Linux/x86_64
Linux/x86_64 .tar.bz2 (readme) (MD5 sum) (SHA1 sum)
(ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.29.1/contrib/seamonkey-2.29.1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2)

 
 I note that, on the web page at
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
 the download for MS Windows, is a .exe installer, so I suppose that what 
 I am seeking, is the equivalent, as a .deb package for Debian 7 amd64 .
 
 Thank you in anticipation.
 
 --
 Bret Busby
 Armadale
 West Australia
 ..
 
 So once you do know what the question actually is,
   you'll know what the answer means.
 - Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts,
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
 
 

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1

2014-09-30 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/27/2014 4:03 PM, NoOp wrote:

Primarily due to us still needing to catchup infra wise, you'll notice
no 2.30 Beta is out yet, much to my dismay (We're hung up on windows
issues atm)

So I'm trying not to change too much of our release process while we
devote time to fixing the broken, rather than improving the not.

Understand. I just seem to recall a short while back there was mention
that the 64bit builds would become 'office' once the new machines (VMs?)
were set up  working:
http://markmail.org/message/vuyseqcvkflefcqp
so wondered what the status is. (Thanks Adrian for the gstreamer builds).



Ahh sure, just a miscommunication on my part then.

Basically now that we have the new Linux systems, (all linux64 fwiw) 
that are building both our linux64 releases as well as our linux32 
releases. We have the technical capacity now to release linux64 officially.


That said, it would still take some relatively significant work on the 
Release Engineering side, and the website to make that a thing. The 
largest two up-front would be adding official builds for linux64 l10n, 
and adding linux64 to the update generation code.


There are other, smaller, things to do here, like ensuring l10n teams 
are aware of linux64 being newly official. Some manual QA on the build 
to make sure nothing is eggregiously broken, and some work on the 
website to make sure we can officially release it without confusing the 
whole site (and past release pages).


Since linux64 does exist (in unofficial) and we release langpacks you 
can install into linux64, we have not made that process a higher 
priority, than, say, actually releasing betas or releases in general. 
(You'll note that the latest round of betas are still delayed).


I thank you for your continued interest, and hope to have more to share 
soon.


~Justin Wood (Callek)
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Re: 2.29.1 information about this update

2014-09-30 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/27/2014 11:52 PM, Jay O'Brien wrote:

I'be received two notices today that say Update Available, 2.29.1. in the notice is a link 
View more information about this update. That takes me to 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.29.1/ which says Page Not Found...

Hello?

Jay O'Brien



As mentioned elsewhere here, it was a mistaken missed piece when 
updating our website this round. It was fixed relatively promptly 
independent of noticing this newsgroup message.


That said, I thank you profusely for the report, as it would have helped 
in the case where we didn't notice independently.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1

2014-09-30 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/27/2014 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/26/2014 10:48 PM PT, Philip Chee typed:


No fix for the address book bug nor for the failure to restore bookmark
backups.  I guess we have to wait for 2.30.



Which address book bug (bug #?) and I don't recall seeing a mention here
or in bug form about the bookmark backup issue. Can you please provide a
pointer so we can try and make sure the fixes are in 2.30 if possible?


Bug 1064664 - Name Sort Bar In Address Book Not Working

Regression caused by MailNews Core Bug 177206
Fixed in Bug 1024130 for Thunderbird 33 (SeaMonkey 2.30)

I was planning to push the fix to 2.29.1 but dropped the ball on this.
Very sorry.

Thunderbird thread:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=29t=2866229


It's OK. It happens. Can we get it in .2 at least? :(


If there is a .2 for this SeaMonkey version, yes.

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RE: Seamonkey as .deb package

2014-09-30 Thread James Mc
If you are still looking for a deb package...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” 
Edmund Burke 

James
Indiana

 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:06:12 -0700
 Subject: Re: Seamonkey as .deb package
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 
 On 08/17/2014 10:48 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
  Hello.
  
  I am hoping that I have not previously posted this query to this list.
  
  As the Debian Project has omitted iceape, its derivative of Seamonkey, 
  from Debian 7, I am wondering what is the prospect of Seamonkey being 
  released as a .deb package for installation on Debian 7.
  
  I had tried installing the Seamonkey tarball, according to the published 
  instructions, and could not then get Seamonkey to work.
 
 You don't need a .deb. All you need to do is create a
 /home/user/seamonkey directory, copy the tarball to that directory,
 extract it there, and then run
 $ /home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey
 Create a menu link with the same, and select the icon from
 $/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default.png
 Doesn't get much simpler than that.
 
 If you can't figure out how to create a menu entry, you can drop this
 into a gedit file into
 
 #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
 
 [Desktop Entry]
 Categories=GTK;Network;
 GenericName=Internet Suite
 Icon[en_US]=/home/yourusernamehere/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/seamonkey.png
 NoDisplay=false
 Terminal=false
 Type=Application
 Exec=/home/yourusernamehere/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey %u
 Name[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
 Name=Mozilla SeaMonkey
 Comment[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
 Comment=Mozilla SeaMonkey
 
  
  As a .deb package, software is usually installed, with all dependencies 
  taken care of, and the launch link, added to the appropriate desktop 
  menu, so it makes it all, relatively simple.
  
  The system upon which I was unable to get Seamonkey to work (and I am 
  not sure that it properly installed), is Debian 7 amd64 LXDE.
 
 Use the 64bit tarball:
 
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.29.1
   Bottom of page:
 
 Linux/x86_64
 Linux/x86_64 .tar.bz2 (readme) (MD5 sum) (SHA1 sum)
 (ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.29.1/contrib/seamonkey-2.29.1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2)
 
  
  I note that, on the web page at
  http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
  the download for MS Windows, is a .exe installer, so I suppose that what 
  I am seeking, is the equivalent, as a .deb package for Debian 7 amd64 .
  
  Thank you in anticipation.
  
  --
  Bret Busby
  Armadale
  West Australia
  
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Re: Seamonkey as .deb package

2014-09-30 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

James Mc wrote on 10/01/2014 04:32 AM:

If you are still looking for a deb package...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
Edmund Burke

James
Indiana


You're the man James! Many thanks for this info!




Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:06:12 -0700
Subject: Re: Seamonkey as .deb package
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

On 08/17/2014 10:48 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am hoping that I have not previously posted this query to this list.

As the Debian Project has omitted iceape, its derivative of Seamonkey,
from Debian 7, I am wondering what is the prospect of Seamonkey being
released as a .deb package for installation on Debian 7.

I had tried installing the Seamonkey tarball, according to the published
instructions, and could not then get Seamonkey to work.

You don't need a .deb. All you need to do is create a
/home/user/seamonkey directory, copy the tarball to that directory,
extract it there, and then run
$ /home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey
Create a menu link with the same, and select the icon from
$/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default.png
Doesn't get much simpler than that.

If you can't figure out how to create a menu entry, you can drop this
into a gedit file into

#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open

[Desktop Entry]
Categories=GTK;Network;
GenericName=Internet Suite
Icon[en_US]=/home/yourusernamehere/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/seamonkey.png
NoDisplay=false
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Exec=/home/yourusernamehere/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey %u
Name[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Name=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Comment[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Comment=Mozilla SeaMonkey


As a .deb package, software is usually installed, with all dependencies
taken care of, and the launch link, added to the appropriate desktop
menu, so it makes it all, relatively simple.

The system upon which I was unable to get Seamonkey to work (and I am
not sure that it properly installed), is Debian 7 amd64 LXDE.

Use the 64bit tarball:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.29.1
   Bottom of page:

Linux/x86_64
 Linux/x86_64 .tar.bz2 (readme) (MD5 sum) (SHA1 sum)
(ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.29.1/contrib/seamonkey-2.29.1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2)


I note that, on the web page at
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
the download for MS Windows, is a .exe installer, so I suppose that what
I am seeking, is the equivalent, as a .deb package for Debian 7 amd64 .

Thank you in anticipation.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia




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