RE: Seamonkey as .deb package
On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 23:41:17 From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: RE: Seamonkey as .deb package On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, James Mc wrote: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 04:32:22 From: James Mc spaceknig...@hotmail.com To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: RE: Seamonkey as .deb package If you are still looking for a deb package... http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/ “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” Edmund Burke James Indiana Hello. Thank you for the link. I will try it when I next boot up the Debian 7 system (which, at present, happens about once a month, for a couple of hours, due to what is involved). Regarding the proverb that you have included above, I believe that the originator is wrong; if people do nothing, and allow evil, then they are not good; they are complicit in the evil. My simplified (and, I believe, more accurate) version of that proverb, is Evil flourishes where apathy prevails . Unfortunately, the version 2.29 of Seamonkey at the above link, appears to be not a working version. I downloaded and installed it, then found that a british english dictionary is not available (spellchecking for outgoing email, is useful, but, does not prevent the sending of badly spelled messages in the absence of a spellchecking dictionary) for the version 2.29, but, also found that the mail component would not either create a Sent messages folder, or, copy sent messages to that folder (which it would not create). I have separate outgoing (IMAP) and incoming (SMTP) servers, but, in trying different combinations of settings, including the settings that I have been successfully using in iceape on Debian 6, I could not get Seamonkey 2.29 mail, working on Debian 7 amd64 LXDE. So, after having spent about an hour, trying unsuccessfully to get the mail facility set up in Seamonkey 2.29, I have had to give up, and write it off as unusable. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Profile Creation...
On 02/10/14 12:23, SamuelS wrote: Hello all, running SM 2.29.1 on Win 8.1 I want to delete a few unused/unneeded profiles while moving my SM folder from one drive to another. Consistently I receive an error message which says something to the effect cannot delete as this profile is in use etc.. despite the fact that SM is NOT running, how do I take care of this? I need to move the profile as it is hogging up a small drive and causing problems. TIA - bo1953 Samuel, do you have SM set up in your Quick Launch panel?? This could explain why SM is saying it's in use when you try to delete it. To get rid of the un-used profiles, start SM then go to Edit-Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, then, in the left hand panel, select one of the accounts that you wish to remove and select Remove Account. Do this for each un-needed Account, but be sure you *really* want to delete the accounts as, once they're gone, they're gone!! To move your main account to a different drive, select Add Account and set up your new account in the required location (On about screen three/four, you get the option of determining the account location), then move/copy your mail account folders to the appropriate place on your other drive, then, when you've copied everything, delete the old account. HTH -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.29 Build identifier: 20140829003846 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140408191805 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey
Hi Guys, Just so you know - the grippies on Metal Lion Sea Monkey Silver Sea Monkey never went away and were there from Day 1. They may not be as wide as you'd like, but please don't post incorrect information about my stuff on the Net and say they don't exist! The close button on the right of the tabbar when using the default theme, has also been in these themes since late June. Thanks for your interest, Frank :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Profile Creation...
On 10/2/2014 2:23 AM, Daniel wrote: On 02/10/14 12:23, SamuelS wrote: Hello all, running SM 2.29.1 on Win 8.1 I want to delete a few unused/unneeded profiles while moving my SM folder from one drive to another. Consistently I receive an error message which says something to the effect cannot delete as this profile is in use etc.. despite the fact that SM is NOT running, how do I take care of this? I need to move the profile as it is hogging up a small drive and causing problems. TIA - bo1953 Samuel, do you have SM set up in your Quick Launch panel?? This could explain why SM is saying it's in use when you try to delete it. To get rid of the un-used profiles, start SM then go to Edit-Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, then, in the left hand panel, select one of the accounts that you wish to remove and select Remove Account. Do this for each un-needed Account, but be sure you *really* want to delete the accounts as, once they're gone, they're gone!! To move your main account to a different drive, select Add Account and set up your new account in the required location (On about screen three/four, you get the option of determining the account location), then move/copy your mail account folders to the appropriate place on your other drive, then, when you've copied everything, delete the old account. HTH The original message is about profiles, not accounts. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Profile Creation...
SamuelS wrote: Hello all, running SM 2.29.1 on Win 8.1 I want to delete a few unused/unneeded profiles while moving my SM folder from one drive to another. Consistently I receive an error message which says something to the effect cannot delete as this profile is in use etc.. despite the fact that SM is NOT running, how do I take care of this? I need to move the profile as it is hogging up a small drive and causing problems. TIA - bo1953 Go to the profile's folder and delete the parent.lock file. Do this for all profiles that you can't get rid of. Then run SM Profile Manager to get rid of the profile(s). -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ I saw a woman wearing a sweat shirt with Guess on it...so I said Implants? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: strange new freeze in SM 2.29 - and 2.29.1
David H. Durgee wrote: I am seeing some sort of a strange freeze in SM 2.29 and am wondering if I am the only one and what can be done about it. This impacts both the browser window and the mail/news window on my system and seems to happen after several hours of use. I notice the freeze has occurred when, for example, I click on a browser tab and although the window title changes to reflect the new tab there is no change in the window content displayed! I see similar behavior at this point in the mail/news window in that clicking on a group or folder changes the window title but not the window content displayed. This is definitely a SM problem, as I can alt-tab or click on another application and behavior is normal. The only solution I have found thus far once the freeze manifests itself is to alt-F4 close both mail/news and browser with save and restart SM. In the latest case I noticed something that suggests it might be a problem updating the window contents, as when I restarted the browser the content of the current tab displayed what the window title reflected as opposed to what was being displayed when I closed the browser for the restart. In case this is system/build dependent, I am running Linux Mint 17 Qiana x64 here and my user agent string is: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29 I am still seeing this freeze with 2.29.1 here. I am a bit surprised that no one else is seeing this problem. It is not frequent, but it is very annoying when it does occur. Is there anything I can do to obtain further diagnostics about this issue? As noted in the original report, it is as if the windows displaying SM are no longer being updated except for the window titles. I can click on a slider in the news groups and drag it and then a click on a folder shows another folder name in the title. I can drag the slider back to its original position and click on the highlighted folder and get the proper title on the window, so it appears that the drag and clicks are effective but the results are not displayed. I likewise can click on tabs in the browser window and the window title will change to reflect this, but the contents of the tab at the point of the freeze remains displayed. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey as .deb package
On 10/02/2014 01:29 AM, Bret Busby wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 23:41:17 From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: RE: Seamonkey as .deb package On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, James Mc wrote: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 04:32:22 From: James Mc spaceknig...@hotmail.com To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: RE: Seamonkey as .deb package If you are still looking for a deb package... http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/ “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” Edmund Burke James Indiana Hello. Thank you for the link. I will try it when I next boot up the Debian 7 system (which, at present, happens about once a month, for a couple of hours, due to what is involved). Regarding the proverb that you have included above, I believe that the originator is wrong; if people do nothing, and allow evil, then they are not good; they are complicit in the evil. My simplified (and, I believe, more accurate) version of that proverb, is Evil flourishes where apathy prevails . Unfortunately, the version 2.29 of Seamonkey at the above link, appears to be not a working version. I downloaded and installed it, then found that a british english dictionary is not available (spellchecking for outgoing email, is useful, but, does not prevent the sending of badly spelled messages in the absence of a spellchecking dictionary) for the version 2.29, but, also found that the mail component would not either create a Sent messages folder, or, copy sent messages to that folder (which it would not create). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/language-tools/ (there is even one for English (Australian)...) I have separate outgoing (IMAP) and incoming (SMTP) servers, but, in trying different combinations of settings, including the settings that I have been successfully using in iceape on Debian 6, I could not get Seamonkey 2.29 mail, working on Debian 7 amd64 LXDE. So, after having spent about an hour, trying unsuccessfully to get the mail facility set up in Seamonkey 2.29, I have had to give up, and write it off as unusable. Right... snip ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
I don't want ALL incoming mail to show remote content. I want all incoming mail from THIS sender. That is what the option is for, it used to work, but now it doesn't. What used to happen when you clicked that link was it added the sender to your address book. It actually increases security to do this, because I can see it is coming from an existing sender and not a phisher. Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. I personally would think you'd prefer the each email approach, since a great majority of remote content comes from spammers and other companies that want to track you. Please don't be caught up by an option change designed for your online safety. Did Janine read this email? Yes. Good, her address is valid so let's send her lots more spam. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. Do I need to fill in more contact info or something now? Agreed. I use this all the time and it's no longer working. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. - Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
On 10/01/2014 05:12 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. Do I need to fill in more contact info or something now? In SM 2.29 the contact form pops up, has the Allow remote content box checked, saves the contact to the address book, but doesn't allow remote content for me, unless I click the Show Remote Content button. I can not tell if new emails from the same contact will show remote content at this time, but since today is Arts Day of Giving I should get a few more reminders later today. I would say you discovered a bug. -- Sponsored by Firefox 33.0bx and Thunderbird 35.0a1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
WaltS48 wrote: On 10/01/2014 05:12 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. Do I need to fill in more contact info or something now? In SM 2.29 the contact form pops up, has the Allow remote content box checked, saves the contact to the address book, but doesn't allow remote content for me, unless I click the Show Remote Content button. I can not tell if new emails from the same contact will show remote content at this time, but since today is Arts Day of Giving I should get a few more reminders later today. I would say you discovered a bug. UPDATE! Found an older email from the same sender and it doesn't show the remote content unless I click the Show Remote Content button. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
Janine Starykowicz wrote: I don't want ALL incoming mail to show remote content. I want all incoming mail from THIS sender. That is what the option is for, it used to work, but now it doesn't. What used to happen when you clicked that link was it added the sender to your address book. It actually increases security to do this, because I can see it is coming from an existing sender and not a phisher. Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. I personally would think you'd prefer the each email approach, since a great majority of remote content comes from spammers and other companies that want to track you. Please don't be caught up by an option change designed for your online safety. Did Janine read this email? Yes. Good, her address is valid so let's send her lots more spam. I am having the same problem and agree with Janine's reasons for wanting this feature. I hope it gets fixed ASAP or a work around exists. Larry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
Larry wrote: I am having the same problem and agree with Janine's reasons for wanting this feature. I hope it gets fixed ASAP or a work around exists. I see your point. Looking back, I see that Janine did not mention in the OP that all incoming mail from a /particular sender/ was what was desired. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
WaltS48 wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 10/01/2014 05:12 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. Do I need to fill in more contact info or something now? In SM 2.29 the contact form pops up, has the Allow remote content box checked, saves the contact to the address book, but doesn't allow remote content for me, unless I click the Show Remote Content button. I can not tell if new emails from the same contact will show remote content at this time, but since today is Arts Day of Giving I should get a few more reminders later today. I would say you discovered a bug. UPDATE! Found an older email from the same sender and it doesn't show the remote content unless I click the Show Remote Content button. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29 That's not the issue. What is broken is the ability for SM to remember for a specific address that all remote content should be loaded. I have an address book called whitelist where I have always stored permissions for this. And it is no longer working. This NOT trivial. I get emails from various companies that contain remote content: Bank of America, AMEX, my water company, various trusted individuals, various other companies, etc. The breakage in SeaMonkey lately is really sad. Actually, it's probably breakage in Thunderbird core but the effect is the same for we users. Mozilla has, apparently, become a one-product company: Firefox. All other dev work has been compromised. Sigh. I suppose I ought to start looking. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. - Isaac Asimov ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
On 10/2/2014 9:13 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 10/01/2014 05:12 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. Do I need to fill in more contact info or something now? In SM 2.29 the contact form pops up, has the Allow remote content box checked, saves the contact to the address book, but doesn't allow remote content for me, unless I click the Show Remote Content button. I can not tell if new emails from the same contact will show remote content at this time, but since today is Arts Day of Giving I should get a few more reminders later today. I would say you discovered a bug. UPDATE! Found an older email from the same sender and it doesn't show the remote content unless I click the Show Remote Content button. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29 That's not the issue. What is broken is the ability for SM to remember for a specific address that all remote content should be loaded. I have an address book called whitelist where I have always stored permissions for this. And it is no longer working. This NOT trivial. I get emails from various companies that contain remote content: Bank of America, AMEX, my water company, various trusted individuals, various other companies, etc. The breakage in SeaMonkey lately is really sad. Actually, it's probably breakage in Thunderbird core but the effect is the same for we users. Mozilla has, apparently, become a one-product company: Firefox. All other dev work has been compromised. Sigh. I suppose I ought to start looking. Yes, this is a pain in the *ss. I checked bugzilla and don't find any bugs relating to this. Anyone gonna file one? -- Ed, W3BNR ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
On 10/02/2014 09:31 PM, W3BNR wrote: On 10/2/2014 9:13 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 10/01/2014 05:12 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. Do I need to fill in more contact info or something now? In SM 2.29 the contact form pops up, has the Allow remote content box checked, saves the contact to the address book, but doesn't allow remote content for me, unless I click the Show Remote Content button. I can not tell if new emails from the same contact will show remote content at this time, but since today is Arts Day of Giving I should get a few more reminders later today. I would say you discovered a bug. UPDATE! Found an older email from the same sender and it doesn't show the remote content unless I click the Show Remote Content button. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29 That's not the issue. What is broken is the ability for SM to remember for a specific address that all remote content should be loaded. That is what I was indicating. SM doesn't remember that all remote content should be loaded for a specific address. Yes, this is a pain in the *ss. I checked bugzilla and don't find any bugs relating to this. Anyone gonna file one? You? I don't use SeaMonkey, just installed for support purposes. The problem does not exist in Thunderbird. -- Sponsored by Firefox 33.0b8 and Thunderbird 31.1.2 GO Steelers, Pitt, Pens, Bills and Sabres! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Click here to always load remote content from
WaltS48 wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 10/01/2014 05:12 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote: I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I have to click show remote which only works on that particular email. Do I need to fill in more contact info or something now? In SM 2.29 the contact form pops up, has the Allow remote content box checked, saves the contact to the address book, but doesn't allow remote content for me, unless I click the Show Remote Content button. I can not tell if new emails from the same contact will show remote content at this time, but since today is Arts Day of Giving I should get a few more reminders later today. I would say you discovered a bug. UPDATE! Found an older email from the same sender and it doesn't show the remote content unless I click the Show Remote Content button. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29 My older email senders that I'd previously set to show remote content are still showing it on new emails. I just can't add any new senders. Combine this with the fact that I am still having filtered senders getting caught in the junk folder, and I have to check everything very carefully. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
