Re: Suddently after a mail save I got 192 mails saved and with unread status in the draft folder

2015-03-02 Thread Ray_Net

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 02/03/2015 17:51:

dhir...@ameritech.net wrote:

On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 4:24:19 AM UTC-6, Ray_Net wrote:

My draft folder was empty.
I try to send a mail, but the internet access is broken.
So I do CTRL S to save the mail and I close it.
I repair the internet connection and i wait to stabilize.
When i came back to my pc, i want to re-open the saved mail and I see:
192 mails saved and with unread status in the draft folder.

Any idea to avoid this situation ?


I saw the same problem on 2/24.  I hadn't saved the emails as a 
Draft.  I attributed it to weather-related blips on the power. It 
hasn't happened since then.




Just a WAG but maybe the folder's index .msf got corrupted and causing 
the duplicates, so maybe right-clicking and selecting Properties and 
then clicking Repair Folder might fix it.


Just deleting all the mails in the draft correct the problem - no need 
to repair

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.33b1 released

2015-03-02 Thread hawker

On 3/2/2015 3:48 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 19:47:45 +0100, A Williams root@127.0.0.1 wrote:


hawker wrote:

On 2/26/2015 9:47 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:34:58 -0800, Ant ant@zimage.comANT wrote:


Did you drop support for Windows XP?
When trying to start 2.33b1 on XP I get:

  The procedure entry point InterlockedCompareExchange64 could
not be
  located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll.

That would be a real pity!

Regards!



I just tried to install on my XP SP3 machine and go the exact same
message.


That is why we have betas. I hope it is a bug. I still use Windows XP
Pro SP3. Did you guys report it in its Bugzilla? :)

I added it to the tracking bug 1132299 which was started by Edmond Wong


Thank you! I hope they will fix it! Now, if I could tell Netgear to
support Windows XP SP3. Argh.


Fix it? Why? XP is deader than dead, even with the POS2009 hack.
They've now switched to VS2013 for compiling so the compiler is
targeting OS from this century. While I did read about this problem
affecting XP SP2 users, I don't think it makes a difference in terms
of SP2/SP3. The future is leaving the past behind. No one is making
proper driver/software support for XP anymore so eventually it just
won't run. It doesn't make sense to compile for something that's EOL
even if a few people are still using it. Maybe the devs will work
around it but I doubt for very long. It will become just too time
consuming to support.



I suspect the core user base of Seamonkey is anachronistic hold outs in
general. Most of us are probably old Netscape 1-4 users who could never
get used to the more modern interface of other browsers and like how the
old Netscape suite worked. IE we get comfortable with one thing and
don't switch unless we have too.

That probably also means that the Seamonkey base has a larger than
average hold out of XP SP3 users.  XP works, little motivation to go to
Win 7. I have it at home, I don't like it.  I'm certainly guilty of both
charges.



My XP machine is an old laptop limping along.  The DVD drive stopped
working years ago - a controller problem, not a drive problem - so I
can't install anything newer.
Uninstalled Flash, Java, any obvious security holes.  I have a
standalone browsing machine (for a limited range of sites) with no data
worth compromising.  Works for me.

If XP support *was* removed, I'd like to know in advance so I could
freeze the last working level.


If I had to take a guess, support is going to end for XP in the near
future, probably with the next ESR or two. I'm sure as with the ending
of support on Windows 2000 there will be an announcement.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]



Well considering support for Windows 2000 was just removed less than 2 
years ago we may have a while to go.

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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-02 Thread Geoff Welsh

EE wrote:

A Williams wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29




The last one before Australis?  That has to be a bonus.


Firefox 29 was the beginning of Australis.



I'm still on FF 28 and I couldn't remember why, but I knew there was a 
good reason.


Thanks

GW
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Re: Memory and Flash Player.

2015-03-02 Thread Ant

Get an ad blocker and put Flash to activate on demand.


On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, lr...@superlink.net wrote:

I'm using
Windows 7 pro SP1
Seamonkey 2.32.1
Shockwave Flash 32_16_0_0_305

Certain pages seem to take a lot of memory. I've seen Flash Player up above 
2.5GB. Seamonkey goes to around 500MB.

Closing the pages I suspect to be causing the trouble makes the memory usage go 
way down.

It seems to occur when there are ads that look like gifs, ie they just repeat over and 
over.  I usually see messages in the message area that say things like Waiting for 
..

I don't want to block the ads.

A good site to see this problem is www.fark.com, although it's not the only 
one.  It doesn't always happen. Ads that are unchanging, which I suspect are 
either jpegs or pngs,  don't seem to cause the problem.

My version of Explorer doesn't seem to have the same problems although it has 
popped up some message about scripts being disabled and it sometimes leaves the 
advertising area on www.fark.com blank, so maybe it's detecting something.

The memory usage slows down Seamonkey's response time making for a less than 
pleasant browsing experience.

TIA for any suggestions.

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No streaming videos from xboxdvr.com...

2015-03-02 Thread Ant
Example: 
http://www.xboxdvr.com/Viiktor%20Vaughn/a4ae4675-f65e-41cc-af8d-e92b326ec378 
, or is it just me? Thank you in advance. :)

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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-02 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Daniel wrote:

On 03/03/15 04:38, Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29


I normally determine the FF equivalent of SM by adding the bits of the 
SM version and then adding one, e.g. SM 2.26 ... 2 + 26 + 1 = 29 
therefore SM 2.26 is equivalent to FF 29


Don't know how the extra bit works in ... maybe SM 2.26.1 is equivalent 
to FF 29.1 and SM 2.27 (if there was one) would have been equivalent to 
FF 30.



Interesting!  I found a chart at Mozilla listing the products.
Installed FF 27 on one laptop tonight.
Removed FF 29.
I agree with Geoff.  May install 28.xx on another laptop tomorrow
Then eventually SM 2.23 or so on this machine.
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Re: My Old Age Is getting To Me

2015-03-02 Thread HenriK

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


SM v.2.32 running on Win XP, SP3.  Somehow I did something that is
causing my incoming e-mail messages to remain being shown in bold even
after I access them (but don't delete them).

How do I reset my preferences so that the e-mails remain shown but
revert to a non-bold typeface after I access them for the first time?
I've looked everywhere but can't seem to find the instruction that tells
me how to fix this problem.

Thanks, in advance for any and all advice, comments, or suggestions.


Probably because you're not marking them as read. Do they unbold if you
type M while reading them?

SeaMonkey will do that automatically for you if you tell it to.

Edit | Preferences | Mail  Newsgroups | Message Display
...
[x] Automatically mark messages as read
[ ] Only after displaying for [nn] seconds



Thank you, Mr. Gallagher.
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Re: No streaming videos from xboxdvr.com...

2015-03-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ant wrote:

Example:
http://www.xboxdvr.com/Viiktor%20Vaughn/a4ae4675-f65e-41cc-af8d-e92b326ec378
, or is it just me? Thank you in advance. :)


WFM. Not my taste, but that wasn't your question, was it?

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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-02 Thread Daniel

On 03/03/15 04:38, Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29


I normally determine the FF equivalent of SM by adding the bits of the 
SM version and then adding one, e.g. SM 2.26 ... 2 + 26 + 1 = 29 
therefore SM 2.26 is equivalent to FF 29


Don't know how the extra bit works in ... maybe SM 2.26.1 is equivalent 
to FF 29.1 and SM 2.27 (if there was one) would have been equivalent to 
FF 30.


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Re: No streaming videos from xboxdvr.com...

2015-03-02 Thread Daniel

On 03/03/15 14:25, Ant wrote:

Example:
http://www.xboxdvr.com/Viiktor%20Vaughn/a4ae4675-f65e-41cc-af8d-e92b326ec378
, or is it just me? Thank you in advance. :)


WFM on my Linux install. No sound, though!

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SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114

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Re: Clicking On Full Screen Button Has No Affect For this Page

2015-03-02 Thread Arnie Goetchius
rjkrjk wrote:
 win xp sp3, sm 2.32.1
 works fine here
 
Does not work for me on Win 7 or xp sp3, sm 2.32.1 Are you sure you
clicked on the icon and not the page itself?
 
 Arnie Goetchius wrote on 2/28/2015 10:10 AM:
 When I click on the Full Screen button of the following page, nothing
 happens. It does not work for SM 2.32 (using a Default Profile) but it
 does work for Firefox 36, Chrome 40 and Safari 5.1.7.

 Can anyone verify that it does or does not work?

 http://www.lucentretirees.com/newsletters/mobile/index.html#p=1


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Re: Seamonkey 2.33.b1 : missing thread lines in account and reading panes

2015-03-02 Thread Daniel

On 02/03/15 19:35, Dominique wrote:

Hello,

Anyone able to confirm this bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1137125
  missing thread lines in account and reading panes

This happens on my Windows (8.1) Seamonkey, when upgrading from 2.32.1
to 2.33.b1

Thanks to confirm (or not..) and possible update the bur report.

Dom,


Pick me, Dominique, pick me.

I noticed it when I updated from Linux x86_64  2.32b2 to 2.33b1. I think 
it has been mentioned here or m.d.a.seamonkey, but, on this Laptop 
screen, it's not annoying enough for me to mention it.


Of course, on some 'phones, etc (i.e.smaller displays), the missing 
lines might be more important.


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Seamonkey 2.33.b1 : missing thread lines in account and reading panes

2015-03-02 Thread Dominique

Hello,

Anyone able to confirm this bug: 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1137125

 missing thread lines in account and reading panes

This happens on my Windows (8.1) Seamonkey, when upgrading from 2.32.1 
to 2.33.b1


Thanks to confirm (or not..) and possible update the bur report.

Dom,
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Re: Clicking On Full Screen Button Has No Affect For this Page

2015-03-02 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-02-28 16:10, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Currently, you can make it work with this extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/

It's the same issue as playing HTML5 videos full screen: 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2914655

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Re: Suddently after a mail save I got 192 mails saved and with unread status in the draft folder

2015-03-02 Thread dhirsch
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 4:24:19 AM UTC-6, Ray_Net wrote:
 My draft folder was empty.
 I try to send a mail, but the internet access is broken.
 So I do CTRL S to save the mail and I close it.
 I repair the internet connection and i wait to stabilize.
 When i came back to my pc, i want to re-open the saved mail and I see:
 192 mails saved and with unread status in the draft folder.
 
 Any idea to avoid this situation ?

I saw the same problem on 2/24.  I hadn't saved the emails as a Draft.  I 
attributed it to weather-related blips on the power.  It hasn't happened since 
then.
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Mouse Pointer Changes

2015-03-02 Thread Tom Pamin
Sometimes the mouse pointer on my laptop changes to a hand and the whole 
screen is not responsive. I think it is only while using SM. SM 
minimizes and this lasts for about a minute until everything returns to 
normal. It only happens on one laptop. Any thoughts?

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Re: Suddently after a mail save I got 192 mails saved and with unread status in the draft folder

2015-03-02 Thread Jonathan N. Little

dhir...@ameritech.net wrote:

On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 4:24:19 AM UTC-6, Ray_Net wrote:

My draft folder was empty.
I try to send a mail, but the internet access is broken.
So I do CTRL S to save the mail and I close it.
I repair the internet connection and i wait to stabilize.
When i came back to my pc, i want to re-open the saved mail and I see:
192 mails saved and with unread status in the draft folder.

Any idea to avoid this situation ?


I saw the same problem on 2/24.  I hadn't saved the emails as a Draft.  I 
attributed it to weather-related blips on the power.  It hasn't happened since 
then.



Just a WAG but maybe the folder's index .msf got corrupted and causing 
the duplicates, so maybe right-clicking and selecting Properties and 
then clicking Repair Folder might fix it.


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Re: Mouse Pointer Changes

2015-03-02 Thread Tom Pamin

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Sometimes the mouse pointer on my laptop changes to a hand and the whole
screen is not responsive. I think it is only while using SM. SM
minimizes and this lasts for about a minute until everything returns to
normal. It only happens on one laptop. Any thoughts?


Any specific URL or is all the time, because a bad bit of JavaScript of
Flash on a site can certainly tie a browser up into knots.


I thought it was mainly on Twitter, but it does happen at other times.
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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-02 Thread Ed Mullen

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29


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Re: Mouse Pointer Changes

2015-03-02 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Tom Pamin wrote:

Sometimes the mouse pointer on my laptop changes to a hand and the whole
screen is not responsive. I think it is only while using SM. SM
minimizes and this lasts for about a minute until everything returns to
normal. It only happens on one laptop. Any thoughts?


Any specific URL or is all the time, because a bad bit of JavaScript of 
Flash on a site can certainly tie a browser up into knots.


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FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-02 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.33b1 released

2015-03-02 Thread A Williams

hawker wrote:

On 2/26/2015 9:47 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:34:58 -0800, Ant ant@zimage.comANT wrote:


Did you drop support for Windows XP?
When trying to start 2.33b1 on XP I get:

 The procedure entry point InterlockedCompareExchange64 could
not be
 located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll.

That would be a real pity!

Regards!



I just tried to install on my XP SP3 machine and go the exact same
message.


That is why we have betas. I hope it is a bug. I still use Windows XP
Pro SP3. Did you guys report it in its Bugzilla? :)

I added it to the tracking bug 1132299 which was started by Edmond Wong


Thank you! I hope they will fix it! Now, if I could tell Netgear to
support Windows XP SP3. Argh.


Fix it? Why? XP is deader than dead, even with the POS2009 hack.
They've now switched to VS2013 for compiling so the compiler is
targeting OS from this century. While I did read about this problem
affecting XP SP2 users, I don't think it makes a difference in terms
of SP2/SP3. The future is leaving the past behind. No one is making
proper driver/software support for XP anymore so eventually it just
won't run. It doesn't make sense to compile for something that's EOL
even if a few people are still using it. Maybe the devs will work
around it but I doubt for very long. It will become just too time
consuming to support.



I suspect the core user base of Seamonkey is anachronistic hold outs in
general. Most of us are probably old Netscape 1-4 users who could never
get used to the more modern interface of other browsers and like how the
old Netscape suite worked. IE we get comfortable with one thing and
don't switch unless we have too.

That probably also means that the Seamonkey base has a larger than
average hold out of XP SP3 users.  XP works, little motivation to go to
Win 7. I have it at home, I don't like it.  I'm certainly guilty of both
charges.



My XP machine is an old laptop limping along.  The DVD drive stopped 
working years ago - a controller problem, not a drive problem - so I 
can't install anything newer.
Uninstalled Flash, Java, any obvious security holes.  I have a 
standalone browsing machine (for a limited range of sites) with no data 
worth compromising.  Works for me.


If XP support *was* removed, I'd like to know in advance so I could 
freeze the last working level.

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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-02 Thread A Williams

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29




The last one before Australis?  That has to be a bonus.
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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-02 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29


Thanks Ed.
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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-02 Thread EE

A Williams wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29




The last one before Australis?  That has to be a bonus.


Firefox 29 was the beginning of Australis.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.33b1 released

2015-03-02 Thread Richard Falken
A Williams wrote:
 My XP machine is an old laptop limping along.  The DVD drive stopped
 working years ago - a controller problem, not a drive problem - so I can't
 install anything newer.

I'd like to point out that you can perform installs through a USB device
unless your BIOS is very old, at least in most cases.

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Memory and Flash Player.

2015-03-02 Thread lruss
I'm using 
Windows 7 pro SP1
Seamonkey 2.32.1
Shockwave Flash 32_16_0_0_305

Certain pages seem to take a lot of memory. I've seen Flash Player up above 
2.5GB. Seamonkey goes to around 500MB.

Closing the pages I suspect to be causing the trouble makes the memory usage go 
way down.

It seems to occur when there are ads that look like gifs, ie they just repeat 
over and over.  I usually see messages in the message area that say things like 
Waiting for ..

I don't want to block the ads.

A good site to see this problem is www.fark.com, although it's not the only 
one.  It doesn't always happen. Ads that are unchanging, which I suspect are 
either jpegs or pngs,  don't seem to cause the problem.

My version of Explorer doesn't seem to have the same problems although it has 
popped up some message about scripts being disabled and it sometimes leaves the 
advertising area on www.fark.com blank, so maybe it's detecting something.

The memory usage slows down Seamonkey's response time making for a less than 
pleasant browsing experience.

TIA for any suggestions.
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Annoying hang in SM after forwarding an email under Win 8.1

2015-03-02 Thread Dick Hoffman
I'm running essentially vanilla SM 2.32.1 on a system under 64 bit 
Windows 8.1. Since I moved to this system I've been experiencing a 
random delay after forwarding or, less frequently, sending an email. I 
get a small status window that says the email was forwarded and with a 
progress bar green line running anywhere from 35 to 100%. SM is in an 
uninterruptible wait state in that I cannot select another email or do 
anything else on the system. If I select Cancel in the status window, 
Windows says the app is not responding and it can cancel SM. Cancel 
frees up the system. The message has been forwarded; I can verify this 
by forwarding to myself and checking on another system. If I just wait 
for 90 seconds instead of doing anything with the status window the 
progress bar goes to 100%, the status window disappears and the message 
I am forwarding gets posted with a little blue arrow to show it was 
forwarded. Everything returns to normal. At this point I'm thinking it 
has something to do with Win 8.1 since I did not experience this delay 
on our previous XP system. Any suggestions would be welcome.

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