Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.

[azed13]

Lee wrote:

On 6/28/15, azed13  wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

azed13 wrote:

I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update
Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called
upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is
available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal?

I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher
and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has
only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a
setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable
which is the so called "fastest" in this area.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox
out of the equation.


I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the
Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However,
after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and
restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent.

If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears
that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is
interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then
erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense?


Yes.  Sounds like an anti-virus program set to check programs before
loading & remember the results so it doesn't have to scan on
subsequent program loads.

So... do you ahve an a/v program?   set to check programs when they
load?  and set to scan only on the first load?

Regards,
Lee

First, my thanks to all of you responders for the great suggestions. 
Second, mea culpa because the responses made me use my ancient brain to 
dig through my machine looking for other possible causes. And, I found it.


Back in mid 2014 I thought my boot time seemed to be a little too long. 
when we get old we sometimes get impatient. I found a small program that 
was designed to delay applications from preloading in the background 
during boot. So, the net effect is some programs took a minimal amount 
of extra time to load when called upon. I was not aware that Seamonkey 
would be in that category. As Seamonkey went through the various updates 
it appears that little program had more effect then on other applications.


I disabled it and the problem vanished. So, my apologies to all for 
bugging you with something that really turned out to be way off topic.

Conversely, my thanks for nudging me in the right direction to solve it.

azed13
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Re: Stop HTML5 autoplay in SeaMonkey on YouTube

[EE]

Daniel wrote:

On 2/06/2015 3:46 PM, EE wrote:

Is there any way to stop HTML5 videos from starting automatically when
the page loads with YouTube?  Flashblock is not working very well with
YouTube and SeaMonkey.  Surely there must be some setting in
about:config that would either prevent autostart of HTML5, or
alternatively, force YouTube to send Flash instead.


EE, in the thread "Setting up SM for HTML5" I sort advice for exactly
the opposite to you, I wanted HTML5 whenever possible.

I was sent to https://www.youtube.com/html5 and set that up to send me
HTML5 whenever possible.

So it would seem to me that you want the opposite, so maybe if you set
that screen up to always use "Default", i.e. not HTML5, you might get
what you want.

I solved the problem by getting an extension to force the use of Flash 
instead.


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Re: New Seamonkey User

[EE]

lanie molinar wrote:

Hi. I just started using Seamonkey and have a question. I also use Firefox and 
all of my passwords are stored there. Is there any way to sync my Firefox 
passwords and bookmarks with Seamonkey? Thanks.

You could try copying key3.db and logins.json from the Firefox profile 
to the SeaMonkey to profile.


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Re: What version of SM is used by most here?

[EE]

Ant wrote:

...

I am using a Tinderbox build of SM 2.35.  It works pretty well.  The
only real problem I had was YouTube sending HTML5 videos instead of
Flash.  There is an extension that can fix that.


Which extension is that? Mine always use Flash. I think my YouTube
account is set to use Flash so I can do on demand unlike HTML5 videos.


With SM 2.35, YouTube began sending videos with HTML5.  I have no 
YouTube account, and did not want one.  The extension is YouTube Flash 
Video Player.


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Re: 2.33.1 Page reload problem

[Bill Spikowski]

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

I am currently using version SM 2.33.1 in Windows 7 Pro. My browser frequently 
stalls in the process of trying to load a web page. Using the page Reload 
feature used to reload the same page, but now it opens up a second folder that 
tries to open the same page simultaneously. I end up with two folders that get 
stalled while trying to load one page.

Any clues on this issue? Thanks in advance for your help.




Does this happen only on certain web pages? If so, if you can provide a sample 
URL, others can check the behavior on their machines.

If not, have you tried starting SM in safe mode and trying again?  (HELP | 
RESTART WITH ADD-ONS DISABLED)  If the problem goes away, then the likely 
culprit is one of your add-ons.
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Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.

[Jonathan N. Little]

azed13 wrote:


I have Microsoft Security Essentials as well as AVG Free edition. Any
kind of scheduled or auto scan is disabled in both. "Real-time
protection" is enabled in MSE and "Resident Shield" is enabled in AVG.
As far as I can tell looking at the settings for both programs there is
no indication of a request to scan any particular program before
opening. However, I really don't know what "Real-time protection" is in
MSE.


Well that definitely could be your problem. More than one antivirus 
program installed at a time is a bad idea. Can often lock your system 
up. Pick one and uninstall the other.


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Re: Seamonkey CPU spin

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:

On 29/06/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:





This is with proper emptying trash and junk and compacting. I just have
archived my messages for the past 16 years.


That may be the difference!!. I archive all my (19 years) e-mails,
etc, in folders under the "Local Folders", so my main Mail account only
has this years stuff!



Not sure that would make much of a difference, stored the same way just 
a different file name in your Mail directory. Anyway I used to do it 
manually with a custom folder "Archive/YEAR" in the profile before the 
archive feature was added. Afterwards all I had to do was rename 
"Archive" to "Archives".


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Re: WebGL Doesn't Work

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:

...

http://www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com/


Nice web site. Boo to "Nay" answer. :(


Huh. My 2.33.1 says "Yay," wonder why your 2.33.1 would say "Nay"...



My 2.33.1 says "Yay" so I would guess it is a video card/driver that is
the issue.


Yeah, it is an old ATI Radeon 4870 video card with its v9.4 driver
(can't use the newer versions since they hard lock up randomly and
rarely -- I don't game these days so no need for speeds). I am still
using Windows XP Pro SP3 as well.




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Re: 2.33.1 Page reload problem

[Marisa Ciceran]

Sorry folks. By "folder", I mean "tab".

Marisa Ciceran wrote:
I am currently using version SM 2.33.1 in Windows 7 Pro. My browser 
frequently stalls in the process of trying to load a web page. Using 
the page Reload feature used to reload the same page, but now it opens 
up a second folder that tries to open the same page simultaneously. I 
end up with two folders that get stalled while trying to load one page.


Any clues on this issue? Thanks in advance for your help.

Marisa

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2.33.1 Page reload problem

[Marisa Ciceran]

I am currently using version SM 2.33.1 in Windows 7 Pro. My browser 
frequently stalls in the process of trying to load a web page. Using the 
page Reload feature used to reload the same page, but now it opens up a 
second folder that tries to open the same page simultaneously. I end up 
with two folders that get stalled while trying to load one page.


Any clues on this issue? Thanks in advance for your help.

Marisa

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Preserving email folders on the IAMP server

[stan]

I have my emails on IMAP server and am accessing them with two computers 
so I do not want neither to erase them from the server.


Where exactly should I set this feature?
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Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.

[NFN Smith]

azed13 wrote:

Just Seamonkey Paul. Task Manager shows Seamonkey far and away the
largest user at 350,000 K+ The second largest group of users is all the
"Host Processes for Windows Services" also exceeding 350,000 K.

I haven't noticed any unusual delay opening other programs such as
Photoshop or Office.


Two other things you could try:

- Disable hardware acceleration. Several years ago, I did that on my 
installation, when I had quirkiness with fonts display.  However, 
depending on your video card, there may be issues that turn up with 
performance issues.  I do know that since the release of Thunderbird 
38.0.1 a couple of weeks ago, I've seen a number of people reporting 
either noticeable slowness, or crash problems, and for some disabling 
hardware acceleration has helped.


- If your mail client has several mail and/or news accounts defined, 
consider reducing the frequency of checking for new content. I had 
problems with occasional total non-responsiveness, and I found that when 
I set the news servers to check less frequently, and also on slightly 
different schedules (e.g., one checking every 55 minutes, one checking 
every 60 minutes, one checking every 65 minutes), I saw a noticeable 
improvement, when I wasn't checking all the news servers simultaneously. 
In a similar way de-synchronizing checks for mail seems to help, 
especially since I have a lot of content handling rules in place.


Neither of these are a panacea, but either may help a little.

Smith

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Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.

[Danny Kile]

azed13 wrote:

I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update
Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called
upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is
available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal?

I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher
and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has
only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a
setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable
which is the so called "fastest" in this area.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

azed13


Have you tried to start SeaMonkey in safe mode and see how that works? 
Also you might want to try creating a new profile just for testing 
purposes.


Danny,
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Re: WebGL Doesn't Work

[Daniel]

On 29/06/2015 9:58 AM, Ant wrote:

On site radarbox24.com, I get an error when going to cockpit view for a
specific plane. It used to work, but now it says my browser supports
WebGL, but initialization failed. This does work on my other laptop
running SM. Can someone help?


Also on this test site, it says "Nay" for my current laptop, and "Yay"
for my older laptop. Must be something in the settings for my current
laptop that is blocking WebGL.
http://www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com/


Nice web site. Boo to "Nay" answer. :(


My HP 6730b Laptop using Win7 SM gets a big YAY!!

YAY!!

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Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.

[Daniel]

On 29/06/2015 5:49 PM, azed13 wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 6/28/15, azed13  wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

azed13 wrote:

I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update
Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when
called
upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is
available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal?

I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher
and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC
has
only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is
there a
setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable
which is the so called "fastest" in this area.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take
Cox
out of the equation.


I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the
Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However,
after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and
restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent.

If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears
that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is
interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then
erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense?


Yes.  Sounds like an anti-virus program set to check programs before
loading & remember the results so it doesn't have to scan on
subsequent program loads.

So... do you ahve an a/v program?   set to check programs when they
load?  and set to scan only on the first load?

Regards,
Lee


Lee:

I have Microsoft Security Essentials as well as AVG Free edition. Any
kind of scheduled or auto scan is disabled in both. "Real-time
protection" is enabled in MSE and "Resident Shield" is enabled in AVG.
As far as I can tell looking at the settings for both programs there is
no indication of a request to scan any particular program before
opening. However, I really don't know what "Real-time protection" is in
MSE.


Is it possible that you have either/both MSE and AVG set up to check 
your e-mail files on start-up?? SeaMonkey stores your e-mails in one 
(possibly large) file, and, because of the way SM handles it's e-mail 
files and attachments, it is not necessary to check them or your new 
e-mails as they are downloaded.


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Re: Seamonkey CPU spin

[Daniel]

On 29/06/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 28/06/2015 12:36 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Rodney Sampson wrote:

What's the best way to rebuild the indexes ?


Right-click on mail folder "Properties > Repair Folder"


Would that explain CPU Spin when reading a message ?


Did see where you said that you have compacted folders, if you haven't
the data is still there and must be parsed even thought "deleted".

My profile has a long legacy from NN 4.x and I have ~4GB data in my mail
folders and do not have your issue...just saying.


Jonathan, do you have all that 4GB of data in just your Inbox and Sent
folders, or have you moved data into other folders with-in your profile
and then File =>Empty Trash and File->Compact Folders??



This is with proper emptying trash and junk and compacting. I just have
archived my messages for the past 16 years.

That may be the difference!!. I archive all my (19 years) e-mails, 
etc, in folders under the "Local Folders", so my main Mail account only 
has this years stuff!


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Re: Stop HTML5 autoplay in SeaMonkey on YouTube

[Daniel]

On 2/06/2015 3:46 PM, EE wrote:

Is there any way to stop HTML5 videos from starting automatically when
the page loads with YouTube?  Flashblock is not working very well with
YouTube and SeaMonkey.  Surely there must be some setting in
about:config that would either prevent autostart of HTML5, or
alternatively, force YouTube to send Flash instead.


EE, in the thread "Setting up SM for HTML5" I sort advice for exactly 
the opposite to you, I wanted HTML5 whenever possible.


I was sent to https://www.youtube.com/html5 and set that up to send me 
HTML5 whenever possible.


So it would seem to me that you want the opposite, so maybe if you set 
that screen up to always use "Default", i.e. not HTML5, you might get 
what you want.


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Re: Stop HTML5 autoplay in SeaMonkey on YouTube

[chokito]

Use the Add-on "YouTube Flash Video Player" from Baris Derin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/youtube-flash-video-player/
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Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.

[azed13]

Lee wrote:

On 6/28/15, azed13  wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

azed13 wrote:

I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update
Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called
upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is
available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal?

I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher
and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has
only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a
setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable
which is the so called "fastest" in this area.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox
out of the equation.


I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the
Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However,
after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and
restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent.

If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears
that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is
interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then
erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense?


Yes.  Sounds like an anti-virus program set to check programs before
loading & remember the results so it doesn't have to scan on
subsequent program loads.

So... do you ahve an a/v program?   set to check programs when they
load?  and set to scan only on the first load?

Regards,
Lee


Lee:

I have Microsoft Security Essentials as well as AVG Free edition. Any 
kind of scheduled or auto scan is disabled in both. "Real-time 
protection" is enabled in MSE and "Resident Shield" is enabled in AVG. 
As far as I can tell looking at the settings for both programs there is 
no indication of a request to scan any particular program before 
opening. However, I really don't know what "Real-time protection" is in MSE.

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Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.

[azed13]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

azed13 wrote:


8 gigs ram, Task Mgr. says 4.9 cached (Windows 7 Limitation??)
1 Terabyte Drive, 517 Gigs free. WD 5400 RPM - SATA.

Seems like plenty of capacity. I appreciate that you are trying to help.


Is it just SM, or is the whole system performing poorly? If it's the
system, it's probably not SM's fault (though it could be).

Try clearing cache and cookies, compact folders, then restart SM.

What does Windows Task Manager say is using all that 4.9 GB? You may
have to "show processes from all users" (checkbox at bottom).

Just Seamonkey Paul. Task Manager shows Seamonkey far and away the 
largest user at 350,000 K+ The second largest group of users is all the 
"Host Processes for Windows Services" also exceeding 350,000 K.


I haven't noticed any unusual delay opening other programs such as 
Photoshop or Office.

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Re: What version of SM is used by most here?

[cmcadams]

Ant wrote:

On 6/27/2015 1:01 AM, cmcadams wrote:
...

I don't check for updates at present. I see them in passing, but I'm not
interested. One of my "very specific" reasons for staying with 2.26.1
has to do with how the HTML email editor still functions. As opposed to
the non-functioning evident in later versions. At least the ones I've
tried.


Which fucntions were those?



A few things with respect to the HTML emails: keyboard cursor functions. Press 
PageDown, for instance, or CTRL_PageDown, and it can leap to the top (or anyplace), 
and not that predictably. It seems to depend on the material.


In 2.26.1, when you double-clicked on a graphic, a window opened that let you change 
things concerning that graphic. Dimensions, proportions, spacing on whichever sides, 
links, and so on. In the later Windows versions I've tried all that's gone. Now it's 
mousing all the way, through layers of menus to accomplish the same things.


Features might theoretically still be there, but are just too exasperating to put up 
with when there's an alternative that's faster.

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