Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-16 Thread Daniel

On 15/07/2015 12:33 PM, HenriK wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:


Snip


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

You name what what I tried to describe:  some program - in this case,
the SM upgrade process - has left an 'in-use flag' alive.  If that is
the case, how does one get rid of the unwanted 'in-use flag'?  Multiple
reboots of the PC didn't solve the problem.


Henrik, it might be a bit drastic but have you tried completely deleting 
SM (but leaving your profile in place), then used a registry cleaner to 
remove any bits left-over by the removal and then done a complete 
re-install of SM??


Of course, before trying this, download a complete new copy of whatever 
the latest version of SM that you like is and, better safe than sorry, 
copy or back-up your profile.


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Re: IMAP Mail Question

2015-07-16 Thread Daniel

On 16/07/2015 3:15 AM, hawker wrote:

Snip

I know no way to have IMAP remove the mail from the server for local
storage so I have to do it this way.


Note: I don't use (or know much about) IMAP, but I thought if you moved 
a message, on your computer, to another folder, rather than your inbox, 
that message was automatically deleted from the IMAP server's inbox!


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Re: I can no longer see my photos inside my google albums

2015-07-16 Thread Daniel

On 16/07/2015 7:06 AM, kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote:

Since Sunday all of a sudden I can no longer see my photo's in my web albums. 
(I still see the albums themselves, but not a single photo).  I'm using 
https://picasaweb.google.com and https://plus.google.com/photos/...
I can see the names of all my albums, but also the cover photo is missing.
When I use the Web Album, I see small rectangles where the photo's should be, 
when I click on one, I get an almost blank page (blank where my photo is 
supposed to be), and if I ask to see the photo details, all Exif data is 
correctly displayed.

As suggested in a Picasa forum append, I cleared all cookies from all google. domains 
and I cleared the cache.  It doesn't help.  And when I say I cleared the 
cache, I mean really clear, all files were removed, I even told my browser to use a 
fresh subdirectory as cache.

When I ask my browser (SeaMonkey, 2.33.1) to use another user profile, it all 
works again, so it surely isn't SeaMonkey itself that is causing the problem.  
When using Chrome, IE or FireFox it also works.
With other words: only my current user profile causes the problem.  I could 
start using another user profile, but then I'd have to copy all passwords, forms data, 
bookmarks, etc that are in my current user profile.

I also thought about the certificates.  From the servers I removed the 
*.google.com entries, but that didn't help either.  Should I clear everything?

I also have google spreadsheets in which I imbed thumbnails from one Picasa Web Albums: 
some of those thumbnails are still displayed, some others are no longer shown (so it 
surely is not a setting that tells never show images of domain google.xxx)


Kris, one of the other threads in this group is suggesting problems with 
(Adobe Shockwave) Flash. Have you updated to the latest version??


Another thread was experiencing site blockage due to the ad blocker 
program they used. If so, have you checked your settings there??


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Re: I can no longer see my photos inside my google albums

2015-07-16 Thread kris . buelens
Good points.  I did inded already have the latest Flash plugin.
And, for Ad Block: I disabled it for Picasa, what didn't help.  So I decided to 
disable all my Add-Ons, restarted Seamonkey, but that doesn't help either.
I now also asked Seamonkey to check all my plug-ins.  Nothing special to 
mention (only Java was, again, backlevel)
But, I used Switch Profile, and remarked that the same plug-ins ara active in 
my test profile, were I can correctly see my Picasa photo's.

Conclusion:
- Plug-ins don't play any role here
- My Add-ons are not the cause either.  I'll re-enable them all.

What about purging all certificates?  I guess they will be recreated when 
needed, without too much work for me (apart from some Yes I agree click).


On Thursday, 16 July 2015 11:48:56 UTC+2, Daniel  wrote:
 On 16/07/2015 7:06 AM, kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Since Sunday all of a sudden I can no longer see my photo's in my web 
  albums. (I still see the albums themselves, but not a single photo).  I'm 
  using https://picasaweb.google.com and https://plus.google.com/photos/...
  I can see the names of all my albums, but also the cover photo is missing.
  When I use the Web Album, I see small rectangles where the photo's should 
  be, when I click on one, I get an almost blank page (blank where my photo 
  is supposed to be), and if I ask to see the photo details, all Exif data is 
  correctly displayed.
 
  As suggested in a Picasa forum append, I cleared all cookies from all 
  google. domains and I cleared the cache.  It doesn't help.  And when I 
  say I cleared the cache, I mean really clear, all files were removed, I 
  even told my browser to use a fresh subdirectory as cache.
 
  When I ask my browser (SeaMonkey, 2.33.1) to use another user profile, it 
  all works again, so it surely isn't SeaMonkey itself that is causing the 
  problem.  When using Chrome, IE or FireFox it also works.
  With other words: only my current user profile causes the problem.  I 
  could start using another user profile, but then I'd have to copy all 
  passwords, forms data, bookmarks, etc that are in my current user profile.
 
  I also thought about the certificates.  From the servers I removed the 
  *.google.com entries, but that didn't help either.  Should I clear 
  everything?
 
  I also have google spreadsheets in which I imbed thumbnails from one Picasa 
  Web Albums: some of those thumbnails are still displayed, some others are 
  no longer shown (so it surely is not a setting that tells never show 
  images of domain google.xxx)
 
 Kris, one of the other threads in this group is suggesting problems with 
 (Adobe Shockwave) Flash. Have you updated to the latest version??
 
 Another thread was experiencing site blockage due to the ad blocker 
 program they used. If so, have you checked your settings there??
 
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 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909
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 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: IMAP Mail Question

2015-07-16 Thread hawker

On 7/16/2015 5:23 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 16/07/2015 3:15 AM, hawker wrote:

Snip

I know no way to have IMAP remove the mail from the server for local
storage so I have to do it this way.


Note: I don't use (or know much about) IMAP, but I thought if you moved
a message, on your computer, to another folder, rather than your inbox,
that message was automatically deleted from the IMAP server's inbox!



It is removed from the IMAP folders inbox, but still on the server in 
another IMAP folder.
The OP has only so much space so he needs to get it off the server 
entirely.

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Re: IMAP Mail Question

2015-07-16 Thread Jonathan N. Little

hawker wrote:

On 7/16/2015 5:23 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 16/07/2015 3:15 AM, hawker wrote:

Snip

I know no way to have IMAP remove the mail from the server for local
storage so I have to do it this way.


Note: I don't use (or know much about) IMAP, but I thought if you moved
a message, on your computer, to another folder, rather than your inbox,
that message was automatically deleted from the IMAP server's inbox!



It is removed from the IMAP folders inbox, but still on the server in
another IMAP folder.
The OP has only so much space so he needs to get it off the server
entirely.


Couldn't OP just create a message filter on the account's Inbox that 
would place a copy in some folder under Local Folders upon arrival. That 
way all messages automatically get a local copy. Probably want to set 
filter to run *after* processing junk filter. Then all he has to do is 
every once and a while sort Inbox by date and delete old messages which 
would clear out the server but he should not lose them because they were 
already backed up locally in Local Folders.


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Re: help needed posting

2015-07-16 Thread A Williams

chicagofan wrote:

Earl Hicks wrote:

Jon  Ed were right on
there was a slight difference in the smtp addressing

Thanks for the help


I missed your new thread, before I posted my useless response to your
original message.  Sorry about that.

Glad you solved the problem.  :)
bj


The best time for a useless response is after the original problem has 
been fixed and the original poster is happy. ;-)

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Re: Flash plug-in

2015-07-16 Thread EE

A Williams wrote:

John Duncan wrote:

rjkrjk wrote:

follow the link to adobe, and d/l current version 1800 209



Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 7/14/2015 12:27 AM:

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

I got the message in SeaMonkey Shockwave Flash is venerable. Use
with caution yesterday
and updated to the latest up to date flash plug-in.

Today I get the same warning about flash. I clicked on the add-ons
manager under the Tools
menu and clicked on Check to see if your plugins are up to date
which takes me to
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/  only to inform me that
all versions of Adobe's
Flash Player are currently vulnerable.

BTW I am using MacOS X. How safe is it to activate flash when it has
been blocked by
Seamonkey because it is outdated?

Thanks,
Paul.


https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-04.html

How safe?  That's relative to YOUR browsing habits and computer
knowledge.
I am not the least bit concerned about my machines.
The small kids next door probably already have their computers
infected.


A good point, but still, technically speaking, all versions of flash
(and newer versions of the java plugin) have some nasty new 0-days
because of that stupid italian ``hacking team'' that recently themselves
got hacked. Still, with good browsing habits and a bit of common sense,
most power users should be fine.


In this context, the Italian Hacking Job was a good thing.  The Italians
were already using the exploit and now everybody is aware of it.  I read
just now that the count of flaws in Flash found so far this month is
up to 38.  Finally people are thinking of killing the beast.

Was the message really Shockwave Flash is venerable. Use with caution?
That would imply it was simply complaining about an older version.


Has anyone ever called Flash venerable?  I doubt that it is worthy of 
that much respect.


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Re: Flash plug-in

2015-07-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/07/2015, EE nu...@bees.wax wrote:


 Has anyone ever called Flash venerable?  I doubt that it is worthy of
 that much respect.


I thought that it was only a bead that was venerable; the venerable bead.

I thought that flash and its problems, were more venereal.

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 published by Pan Books, 1992


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Re: help needed posting

2015-07-16 Thread chicagofan

A Williams wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Earl Hicks wrote:

Jon  Ed were right on
there was a slight difference in the smtp addressing

Thanks for the help


I missed your new thread, before I posted my useless response to your
original message.  Sorry about that.

Glad you solved the problem.  :)
bj


The best time for a useless response is after the original problem 
has been fixed and the original poster is happy. ;-)


LOL!  I hope the other users of this newsgroup are as forgiving.   ;)
bj
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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-16 Thread Burry

On 17.07.15 4:41, HenriK wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/07/2015 12:33 PM, HenriK wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:


Snip


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

You name what what I tried to describe:  some program - in this case,
the SM upgrade process - has left an 'in-use flag' alive.  If that is
the case, how does one get rid of the unwanted 'in-use flag'?  Multiple
reboots of the PC didn't solve the problem.


Henrik, it might be a bit drastic but have you tried completely deleting
SM (but leaving your profile in place), then used a registry cleaner to
remove any bits left-over by the removal and then done a complete
re-install of SM??

Of course, before trying this, download a complete new copy of whatever
the latest version of SM that you like is and, better safe than sorry,
copy or back-up your profile.


Thanks for the comment.  I have, in fact, already deleted SM twice and
reinstalled it and that didn't fix the problem.

The problem with using a registry cleaner is that one needs to know what
one is looking for.  My past experience is that most registry cleaners
aren't particularly discriminating and often delete things one doesn't
want deleted (I have had bad experience in that regard).  Accordingly,
their use has to be handled in a very precise way to avoid problems.
The problem remains, assuming I am looking for some odd bit of SM code
remaining in the registry, what is it I need to look for?  I would had
hoped someone from the SM development team might chime in with some
pointers on what I should be looking for.


I use revo uninstall to really clean the system of trash,
be it files, directories or registery items.
Of course, save/backup your profile.
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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-16 Thread HenriK

Daniel wrote:

On 15/07/2015 12:33 PM, HenriK wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:


Snip


I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no
SM is running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile
info was left untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still
get the error message that the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't
install because another copy of SM (version not stated) is running.
After clicking past the error message window, however, I find that
v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this
nuisance error message?

Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really
understand much about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but
wonder if some odd bid of something has been left by the SM v.2.30
deinstall process in the registry or some other obscure place or that
the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do something it was
supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the nuisance
error message and what is causing this problem?

Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or
advice.

Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to
reboot the whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag
on a file that a program needed and only a reboot would clear it.

You name what what I tried to describe:  some program - in this case,
the SM upgrade process - has left an 'in-use flag' alive.  If that is
the case, how does one get rid of the unwanted 'in-use flag'?  Multiple
reboots of the PC didn't solve the problem.


Henrik, it might be a bit drastic but have you tried completely deleting
SM (but leaving your profile in place), then used a registry cleaner to
remove any bits left-over by the removal and then done a complete
re-install of SM??

Of course, before trying this, download a complete new copy of whatever
the latest version of SM that you like is and, better safe than sorry,
copy or back-up your profile.

Thanks for the comment.  I have, in fact, already deleted SM twice and 
reinstalled it and that didn't fix the problem.


The problem with using a registry cleaner is that one needs to know what 
one is looking for.  My past experience is that most registry cleaners 
aren't particularly discriminating and often delete things one doesn't 
want deleted (I have had bad experience in that regard).  Accordingly, 
their use has to be handled in a very precise way to avoid problems. 
The problem remains, assuming I am looking for some odd bit of SM code 
remaining in the registry, what is it I need to look for?  I would had 
hoped someone from the SM development team might chime in with some 
pointers on what I should be looking for.

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Re: Flash plug-in

2015-07-16 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Bret Busby wrote:
 On 17/07/2015, EE nu...@bees.wax wrote:
 

 Has anyone ever called Flash venerable?  I doubt that it is worthy of
 that much respect.

 
 I thought that it was only a bead that was venerable; the venerable bead.
 
If you are referring to the Anglo-Saxon Monk, Priest, and Scholar it is
actually Bede.
Keith

 I thought that flash and its problems, were more venereal.
 

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Re: Flash plug-in

2015-07-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/07/2015, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote:
 Bret Busby wrote:
 On 17/07/2015, EE nu...@bees.wax wrote:


 Has anyone ever called Flash venerable?  I doubt that it is worthy of
 that much respect.


 I thought that it was only a bead that was venerable; the venerable bead.

 If you are referring to the Anglo-Saxon Monk, Priest, and Scholar it is
 actually Bede.
 Keith


I was being facetious.

From what I understand, that Bede was a creative historian, with
recording as having existed, King Arthur and the Knights Of the Round
Table, possibly dragons, and other fantasy things. Whether he also
recorded Asterix and Obelix, as having saved Londinium from the
Romans, I am not sure.

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 published by Pan Books, 1992


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