Re: popstate files....
On 24/07/2015 5:39 AM, SameulS wrote: Snip Mark, Thank you for your response. This is one of the few times I have had popstate files appear as part of my email as a folder. I now have over 250 of these files showing up when I open SM 2.33.1, not to mention the number of duplicate emails being dl'd into SM. I Am now getting frustrated with this behaviour and really want to figure out the challenge, is it SM or something else causing this? TIA - bo1953 Samuel, somewhere here-abouts (actually in the part of this response that I've snipped!), tonight, I've read that popstate files are used to list e-mails that are left on a pop email server. Do you download your e-mail *and* also leave them on the pop server, maybe so that you can read them on another computer, as well?? Check your Edit-Mail Newsgroups Account Settings, select Server Settings for your e-mail account to see if you have selected Leave messages on server in the Server Settings section. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: popstate files....
Daniel wrote: On 24/07/2015 5:39 AM, SameulS wrote: Snip Mark, Thank you for your response. This is one of the few times I have had popstate files appear as part of my email as a folder. I now have over 250 of these files showing up when I open SM 2.33.1, not to mention the number of duplicate emails being dl'd into SM. I Am now getting frustrated with this behaviour and really want to figure out the challenge, is it SM or something else causing this? TIA - bo1953 Samuel, somewhere here-abouts (actually in the part of this response that I've snipped!), tonight, I've read that popstate files are used to list e-mails that are left on a pop email server. Do you download your e-mail *and* also leave them on the pop server, maybe so that you can read them on another computer, as well?? Check your Edit-Mail Newsgroups Account Settings, select Server Settings for your e-mail account to see if you have selected Leave messages on server in the Server Settings section. Daniel, Thank you for your response. In fact I do leave them on the server as there are a few other people who need to access them via the web when I Am not around. My concern, as well, this is a recent challenge (within the last month or so) and my settings have never changed in over 10 years or so. I have only had this challenge maybe 3x before? Maybe I need to change the settings to IMAP, but my fear there is, if I delete something local, then the message may not be seen by those who need to access it on my behalf later? TIA - bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: popstate files....
Daniel wrote: On 24/07/2015 5:39 AM, SameulS wrote: Snip Mark, Thank you for your response. This is one of the few times I have had popstate files appear as part of my email as a folder. I now have over 250 of these files showing up when I open SM 2.33.1, not to mention the number of duplicate emails being dl'd into SM. I Am now getting frustrated with this behaviour and really want to figure out the challenge, is it SM or something else causing this? TIA - bo1953 Samuel, somewhere here-abouts (actually in the part of this response that I've snipped!), tonight, I've read that popstate files are used to list e-mails that are left on a pop email server. Do you download your e-mail *and* also leave them on the pop server, maybe so that you can read them on another computer, as well?? Check your Edit-Mail Newsgroups Account Settings, select Server Settings for your e-mail account to see if you have selected Leave messages on server in the Server Settings section. Additionally, I just realized the common denominator is the date 22 July 2015, this is the magic date that duplicates and popstate files started. Any email message before this date are singularly downloaded once. Now I Am, conservatively, up to 500 popstate files showing, combined, under each email account when I open SM. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Other readers' receiving my plain text e-mails with non-fixed width fonts...
Hello. Some people's e-mail clients (e.g., Outlook and Apple' iOS Mail) seem to use non-fixed width font for my plain text e-mails. Is the only way to force plain text is to use fixed width font in HTML e-mail formats? Or is there something else to force those e-mail clients to use fixed width font with plain text e-mails? Thank you in advance. :) -- Rest in peace (RIP) to a young cousin as of 7/14/2015 early morning PDT. :~( http://www.gofundme.com/zhvcd9h to donate. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.
W dniu 07/24/2015 o 06:30 AM, Rainer Bielefeld pisze: I think Adrian's question was whether you observe the fist launch crash if you do the launch in safe mode (with disabled add-ons). You can do that from cmd with seamonkey.exe -safe-mode No, it was a question about the passwords: do they reappear in safe mode? Because, afaik, all known cases of password loss on update to newer SeaMonkey or Firefox versions were outdated password managers/extensions - uninstalling all of them made the password reappear... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Other readers' receiving my plain text e-mails with non-fixed width fonts...
On 7/24/2015 3:59 AM, Ant wrote: Hello. Some people's e-mail clients (e.g., Outlook and Apple' iOS Mail) seem to use non-fixed width font for my plain text e-mails. Is the only way to force plain text is to use fixed width font in HTML e-mail formats? Or is there something else to force those e-mail clients to use fixed width font with plain text e-mails? Thank you in advance. :) They might have set their defaults to fonts with variable widths. You can also do that with SeaMonkey's mail and with Thunderbird. The default applies to plain-text messages. Why is this a problem? -- David E. Ross The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland. The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia. See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.
On 7/24/2015 4:07 AM, Adrian Kalla wrote: W dniu 07/24/2015 o 06:30 AM, Rainer Bielefeld pisze: I think Adrian's question was whether you observe the fist launch crash if you do the launch in safe mode (with disabled add-ons). You can do that from cmd with seamonkey.exe -safe-mode No, it was a question about the passwords: do they reappear in safe mode? Because, afaik, all known cases of password loss on update to newer SeaMonkey or Firefox versions were outdated password managers/extensions - uninstalling all of them made the password reappear... Mine disappeared although I had disabled the Remember Passwords extension before trying to do anything involving Passwords Manager. -- David E. Ross The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland. The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia. See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Other readers' receiving my plain text e-mails with non-fixed width fonts...
Some people's e-mail clients (e.g., Outlook and Apple' iOS Mail) seem to use non-fixed width font for my plain text e-mails. Is the only way to force plain text is to use fixed width font in HTML e-mail formats? Or is there something else to force those e-mail clients to use fixed width font with plain text e-mails? They might have set their defaults to fonts with variable widths. You can also do that with SeaMonkey's mail and with Thunderbird. The default applies to plain-text messages. Why is this a problem? Because they say my signatures are messed up on their end. :/ -- Rest in peace (RIP) to a young cousin as of 7/14/2015 early morning PDT. :~( http://www.gofundme.com/zhvcd9h to donate. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.
On 7/24/2015 12:11 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Adrian Kalla wrote: W dniu 07/24/2015 o 06:30 AM, Rainer Bielefeld pisze: I think Adrian's question was whether you observe the fist launch crash if you do the launch in safe mode (with disabled add-ons). You can do that from cmd with seamonkey.exe -safe-mode No, it was a question about the passwords: do they reappear in safe mode? Because, afaik, all known cases of password loss on update to newer SeaMonkey or Firefox versions were outdated password managers/extensions - uninstalling all of them made the password reappear... That's one known cause, documented in the release notes. I've never used any password management addons, but lost passwords when updating from 2.26.1 to 2.33 a few months ago. The workaround in that case was to: - Revert to SeaMonkey 2.26.1 - Restore the profile from backup - Remove the master password - Update to SeaMonkey 2.33 - Reapply the master password Having the master password set (possibly in combination with other things) seemed to cause the passwords to be lost after updating. Notes of my experiences of that update are in the posts I linked to yesterday: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user/57053 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user/57093 It's possible that this is related to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bugcgi?id=1092810#c16 and possible that it can happen under certain conditions when updating from versions 2.31 to =2.31. Mark. If by Remove the master password you meant that you went to [Edit Preferences Privacy Security Master Password] and then selected the Reset Password button, yes you lose all your stored passwords. That is what the text says under Reset Master Password. I was able to keep my stored passwords by exporting them via the Export Passwords extension with my old version of SeaMonkey, then resetting my master password. I then installed 2.35y, set my master password, and then imported the exported passwords, again via the Export Passwords extension. The only extension that I removed was the Remember Passwords extension; all my other extensions -- including Export Passwords, Show Password On Input (for my master password), and Show my Password (for login passwords) -- remained enabled from my old profiles. -- David E. Ross The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland. The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia. See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Other readers' receiving my plain text e-mails with non-fixed width fonts...
Ant wrote on 24/07/2015 18:25: Some people's e-mail clients (e.g., Outlook and Apple' iOS Mail) seem to use non-fixed width font for my plain text e-mails. Is the only way to force plain text is to use fixed width font in HTML e-mail formats? Or is there something else to force those e-mail clients to use fixed width font with plain text e-mails? They might have set their defaults to fonts with variable widths. You can also do that with SeaMonkey's mail and with Thunderbird. The default applies to plain-text messages. Why is this a problem? Because they say my signatures are messed up on their end. :/ -- Rest in peace (RIP) to a young cousin as of 7/14/2015 early morning PDT. :~( http://www.gofundme.com/zhvcd9h to donate. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. I have the same problem when i do a reply of your post :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SmnkyLst: Crash During Online Editing, Browser Webpage Redirected
On 7/24/2015 9:43 AM, M.Ross wrote [in part]: Re: SmnkyLst: Crash During Online Editing, Browser Webpage Redirected Fri, 17 Jul 2015 16:40 -0700 I also wrote in part: Only middlemouse.openNewWindow is true, per my settings at [Edit Preferences]. Where in Edit-Preferences? I am unable to locate any ref? 1. On the menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the Preferences window, select [Browser Link Behavior]. Under Links from other applications, I selected the radio button for A new window. For the two parts under Link open behavior, I selected the radio buttons to open links in new tabs in the current window; the actual text for these varyies. -- David E. Ross The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland. The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia. See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SmnkyLst: Crash During Online Editing, Browser Webpage Redirected
Re: SmnkyLst: Crash During Online Editing, Browser Webpage Redirected Fri, 17 Jul 2015 16:40 -0700 David E. Ross wrote: On 7/17/2015 8:57 AM, M.Ross wrote: SmnkyLst: Crash During Online Editing, Browser Webpage Redirected ... Problem: The Seamonkey browser attempted to load a non-existent webpage, using prior captured text, any word or phrase. This caused trouble interrupted any process, especially when entering data or editing a file online. ... In About.Config, I discovered the problem. 2 items set to default as true: middlemouse.contentLoadURL true middlemouse.paste true I changed/reset them to false, the problem ended. I believe default should be false to prevent the problem. The defaults are indeed false for those two preference variables. When I request about:config and filter on middlemouse, those two (plus middlemouse.scrollbarPosition) not only show as false; they are also NOT bold. They would be bold if they had non-default values. Furthermore, right-clicking on them gives me a pull-down context menu with Reset disabled because they are already reset. Only middlemouse.openNewWindow is true, per my settings at [Edit Preferences]. Where in Edit-Preferences? I am unable to locate any ref? In about:config - Seamonkey v2.33.1, running on Ubuntu Linux v12.04LTS (up-to-date), displayed(before I altered it): -snip- ... browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick user set boolean false (bold) middlemouse.contentLoadURL defaultboolean true middlemouse.openNewWindow defaultboolean true middlemouse.paste defaultboolean true middlemouse.scrollbarPosition defaultboolean true ... -snip- I toggled 2 entries True they turned bold: middlemouse.contentLoadURL user set boolean false (bold) ... middlemouse.paste user set boolean false (bold) I am unable to find any other option, set/reset, default, etc. I continue to wonder what else changed that caused this. I suspect the v2.33.1 update made the change, I started seeing this symptom. -- The Best To You Yours, M. Ross All Rights Reserved ---end-of-message--- - ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
CmnkyList: Window Top Bar Disappears On Seamonkey Only
CmnkyList: Window Top Bar Disappears On Seamonkey Only This problem is - Bizarre? It appears opening the Seamonkey Bookmark Manager, which opens in a new window, may be the cause of the top window bar(the bar with the 3 window control buttons) - of the window holding the Seamonkey program - to disappear! Only on the Seamonkey window! Not the Bookmark Manager window! No other program running suffers this! No other window suffers this. I cannot remember seeing this prior to about 2 months ago. I have been trying to figure out what was happening. What the trigger may be. But who is looking for symptoms like this? So exact time it started is unknown. Only the Seamonkey window is effected! No crashing of Seamonkey or any other program, just the missing top bar! Which prevents using the 3 window control buttons, until I minimize, then maximize the Seamonkey window! Then all is normal again! I am watching this for at least 2 months now. And of course I first considered it an Ubuntu Linux XWindow problem. Ubuntu 12.04 without Unity desktop - I use Gnome! But this only happens on the primary Seamonkey window, not a window for BM mgr, nor any other window. I cannot always reproduce it, but it happens frequent. Any thoughts anybody! -- The Best To You Yours, M.Ross All Rights Reserved ---end-of-message--- sm - ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Other readers' receiving my plain text e-mails with non-fixed width fonts...
Some people's e-mail clients (e.g., Outlook and Apple' iOS Mail) seem to use non-fixed width font for my plain text e-mails. Is the only way to force plain text is to use fixed width font in HTML e-mail formats? Or is there something else to force those e-mail clients to use fixed width font with plain text e-mails? They might have set their defaults to fonts with variable widths. You can also do that with SeaMonkey's mail and with Thunderbird. The default applies to plain-text messages. Why is this a problem? Because they say my signatures are messed up on their end. :/ I have the same problem when i do a reply of your post :-) You read in HTML format in newsgroup? :/ -- Rest in peace (RIP) to a young cousin as of 7/14/2015 early morning PDT. :~( http://www.gofundme.com/zhvcd9h to donate. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.
Adrian Kalla wrote: W dniu 07/24/2015 o 06:30 AM, Rainer Bielefeld pisze: I think Adrian's question was whether you observe the fist launch crash if you do the launch in safe mode (with disabled add-ons). You can do that from cmd with seamonkey.exe -safe-mode No, it was a question about the passwords: do they reappear in safe mode? Because, afaik, all known cases of password loss on update to newer SeaMonkey or Firefox versions were outdated password managers/extensions - uninstalling all of them made the password reappear... That's one known cause, documented in the release notes. I've never used any password management addons, but lost passwords when updating from 2.26.1 to 2.33 a few months ago. The workaround in that case was to: - Revert to SeaMonkey 2.26.1 - Restore the profile from backup - Remove the master password - Update to SeaMonkey 2.33 - Reapply the master password Having the master password set (possibly in combination with other things) seemed to cause the passwords to be lost after updating. Notes of my experiences of that update are in the posts I linked to yesterday: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user/57053 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user/57093 It's possible that this is related to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bugcgi?id=1092810#c16 and possible that it can happen under certain conditions when updating from versions 2.31 to =2.31. Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: CmnkyList: Window Top Bar Disappears On Seamonkey Only
On 7/24/2015 9:44 AM, M.Ross wrote: CmnkyList: Window Top Bar Disappears On Seamonkey Only This problem is - Bizarre? It appears opening the Seamonkey Bookmark Manager, which opens in a new window, may be the cause of the top window bar(the bar with the 3 window control buttons) - of the window holding the Seamonkey program - to disappear! Only on the Seamonkey window! Not the Bookmark Manager window! No other program running suffers this! No other window suffers this. I cannot remember seeing this prior to about 2 months ago. I have been trying to figure out what was happening. What the trigger may be. But who is looking for symptoms like this? So exact time it started is unknown. Only the Seamonkey window is effected! No crashing of Seamonkey or any other program, just the missing top bar! Which prevents using the 3 window control buttons, until I minimize, then maximize the Seamonkey window! Then all is normal again! I am watching this for at least 2 months now. And of course I first considered it an Ubuntu Linux XWindow problem. Ubuntu 12.04 without Unity desktop - I use Gnome! But this only happens on the primary Seamonkey window, not a window for BM mgr, nor any other window. I cannot always reproduce it, but it happens frequent. Any thoughts anybody! That bar is called the Title Bar. I do not see this problem with SeaMonkey 2.35 under Windows 7. -- David E. Ross The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland. The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia. See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Quick Question - Consultants????
Hello - I Am wondering if there are any consultants whom, for a fee, could assist with SM challenges and installations etc.?? Often times there is not enough time in the day to deal with it directly and be responsible to my business and clients, it is very distracting and a time waster currently. TIA for any input or advice provided on this. bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
