Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-04-20 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "

I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to me!!
Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags available.
As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.


Use IMAP. When there were other moderators in the support newsgroups, we 
used a shared IMAP account. All of our custom tags were recognized. It 
may even work with POP3. Give it a try. :)


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/20/2016 1:25 PM, WaltS48's fingers rattled off:

On 04/20/2016 01:12 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/20/2016 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett's fingers rattled off:

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "

I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to
me!!
Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags available.
As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.






_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings ->  -> Server Settings.

Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You
can make two or more more profiles share the same mail directory
by setting each account to the same file path in the local
directory field.



Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.




Then make whatever changes you want.




The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.



I'm sorry my brain can't deal with this.  So I'll say that the OP is 
asking for something that can't be done outside of what I've suggested.


Users frequently ask for that: Functionality that doens't exist.

The OP, as I read this, hasn't replied so I can't be sure.


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Re: Email bounces

[Bonnell Frost]

Bonnell Frost wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

They weren't generated properly at all.  Currently fixing them (though,
README is online).

Once again, sorry for the fubar there..


Edmund



I believe I've fixed this issue.

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.


Why wouldn't it be? If both profiles are pointing to the same mail
folder, they should read the same content, including any tags. It would
only be a problem if both profiles were open at the same time, competing
to read/write the same files.


It looks like the tag names, colours, etc. are defined in prefs.js / 
about:config for the profile (mailnews.tags.*). e.g. for one of the 
default labels in my profile:

  user_pref("mailnews.tags.$label3.color", "#009900");
  user_pref("mailnews.tags.$label3.tag", "Personal");
When tagging an email, a reference to the internal tag name is added to 
the headers in the mail file, e.g.:

  X-Mozilla-Keys: $label3

If you've defined custom labels, and then reference the same mail file 
from a different profile, that profile won't know what the extra labels are.


If your set of labels is fairly constant, I guess it should work to 
define the same labels in both profiles and then both would know what 
$label3 or whatever means. You'd probably need to do that by editing 
prefs.js or about:config, to ensure the same label gets the same 
internal name. Probably not practical if you're constantly defining new 
labels though.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Jonathan N. Little]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/20/2016 02:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.


Why wouldn't it be? If both profiles are pointing to the same mail
folder, they should read the same content, including any tags. It
would only be a problem if both profiles were open at the same time,
competing to read/write the same files.



The custom tag bit flag would be in the shared mail folder, but the 
second profile would need copy the flag mnemonics recorded in the prefs.js


user_pref("mailnews.tags.$label5.tag", "Your custom flag");
user_pref("mailnews.tags.$label5.color", "#993399");
...



So provide the instructions on how two separate profiles can point to
the same mail folder. Richard thanks you.



In second profile Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings > selected account 
> Server Settings > Local Directory > Browse and browse to existing 
mail folder...



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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[WaltS48]

On 04/20/2016 02:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.


Why wouldn't it be? If both profiles are pointing to the same mail 
folder, they should read the same content, including any tags. It 
would only be a problem if both profiles were open at the same time, 
competing to read/write the same files.




So provide the instructions on how two separate profiles can point to 
the same mail folder. Richard thanks you.


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Re: File->Bookmark broken??

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 1:27 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Paul Marwick wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 19/04/2016 1:06 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/18/2016 7:37 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

Normally, when I file a Bookmark, I want to put it in a particular
Group/Sub-Folder, but, with this Windows version of SM 2.40, I'm having
troubles getting to particular Sub-Folders

...

Now, I think, when I click on Bookmarks->File Bookmark, I am taken to a
"New Bookmark" screen, which allows me to add bits and pieces about the
new bookmark, but doesn't allow me to select the particular sub-folder
that I want the Bookmark saved to  unless it happens to be one of
the half dozen or so listed on the "Folder:" drop-down of the
sub-screen.

...


In the New Bookmark dialog it has a line Folder:  with a button saying
Bookmarks Menu.  Click the down arrow to the right.  Click on "Choose."
   Choose your folder and click "Save."


Thanks for that, Ed, but as I typed above, when I click "Choose", I
only get offered those sub-folders that I have saved to recently (the
half dozen or so listed) not the full screen length list.



I'm having the same problem. New with 2.40. However, you can fix it on a
temporary (and very annoying basis), simply by dragging the bottom of
the selection window down. With that, you will be able to see and scroll
through the bookmark folders as before. Trouble is, it doesn't stick.
Next time you use "File Bookmark", you'll have to drag the window longer
again.

There is a bug open, but no idea when/if it will be fixed. Its very
annoying


Do you have the bug number? I can't find it from a quick search of
bugzilla. I was going to do something about filing one after this came
up a few weeks ago, but never got around to it.

This issue also seems to affect a few other dialogs, e.g. some pages of
the preferences.



See bug #1261685 at
.


That looks like a complete breakage of Bookmarks Manager, not the dialog 
sizing problem here. Elsewhere in this thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
mentioned that problem only ever existed in a development version for a 
few days, not in a released version.


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view as plain text sometimes ignored in 2.40

[Felix Miata]

Anyone know if there's been a bug filed about this, or a workaround found to 
avoid it?


Virtually always I have view as plain text selected. Sometimes though, in 
spite of this selection, particular messages are clearly being shown in HTML 
mode using proportional instead of monospace text. Most recent one came from 
a user agent "Zoho Mail", via https://www.trinitydesktop.org/mailing_lists/ 
trinity-users mailing list. This is the tail of the message's heades and the 
head of its body:


Subject: [trinity-users] Cannot login on TDE
X-ELNK-Received-Info: spv=0;
X-Authentication-Results: dkim="fail"; (2:no or failed dkim processing); 
dmarc="none"; (1); dwl="miss"; den="not exempt"

X-ELNK-AV: 0
X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=bb; sbw=000;

--=_Part_30376_69061213.1461163336348
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi all,
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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:


The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.


Why wouldn't it be? If both profiles are pointing to the same mail 
folder, they should read the same content, including any tags. It would 
only be a problem if both profiles were open at the same time, competing 
to read/write the same files.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[WaltS48]

On 04/20/2016 01:12 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/20/2016 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett's fingers rattled off:

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "

I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to 
me!!

Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags available.
As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.






_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings ->  -> Server Settings.

Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You
can make two or more more profiles share the same mail directory
by setting each account to the same file path in the local
directory field.



Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.

 



Then make whatever changes you want.




The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he 
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.


Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in 
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already 
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.


I don't think that is even possible.

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/20/2016 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett's fingers rattled off:

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "

I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to me!!
Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags available.
As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.






_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings ->  -> Server Settings.

Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You
can make two or more more profiles share the same mail directory
by setting each account to the same file path in the local
directory field.



Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.



Then make whatever changes you want.


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Re: Email connection needed

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/20/2016 4:31 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

On 20/04/2016 7:02 AM, Bonnell Frost wrote:

Presently email sent to me at bfr...@skybeam.com bounces.  I have
cleaned up a lot of messages and dumped trash.
I need to have my email connection activated.  Sending works fine.
Bonnell Frost


Bonnell, what type of mail function are you using??

If IMAP, where (as I understand it) your Inbox mail is stored on a
server somewhere until *you* move it to another folder on *your*
computer, either you need to clean out your IMAP folder or ask your
Provider for a bigger mailbox folder.

If POP, where you download all of your mail from your ISP onto your
computer then you move it to other folders, you may have heaps of
"moved" mail still stored in your Inbox. Try doing File->Compact Folders
or even File->Empty Trash then File->Compact Folders.

Hmm, can IMAP folders be File->Compact Folders to help clean them out, I
wonder!!


Yes, compacting does all the email (IMAP or POP) folders.

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Re: File->Bookmark broken??

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/20/2016 4:01 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

On 20/04/2016 1:23 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/19/2016 4:27 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

On 19/04/2016 1:45 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/18/2016 11:40 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

On 19/04/2016 1:06 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/18/2016 7:37 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

Normally, when I file a Bookmark, I want to put it in a particular
Group/Sub-Folder, but, with this Windows version of SM 2.40, I'm
having
troubles getting to particular Sub-Folders, e.g. somebody recently
posted a link to http://info.cern.ch/ with a claim that it was the
first
*ever* website, so I thought I'd save the link in my "General"
Sub-Folder of my Bookmarks.

Previously, a sub-screen would open showing my Bookmarks file
structure
and I would just select the Sub-Folder that I wanted the new
Bookmark
saved to, then click "O.K." and ... job done.

Now, I think, when I click on Bookmarks->File Bookmark, I am taken
to a
"New Bookmark" screen, which allows me to add bits and pieces about
the
new bookmark, but doesn't allow me to select the particular
sub-folder
that I want the Bookmark saved to  unless it happens to be
one of
the half dozen or so listed on the "Folder:" drop-down of the
sub-screen. Where this list comes from, I don't know ... unless it
is a
listing of the sub-folders to which I may have previously filed
bookmarks directly to.

Have I started doing something wrong?? How do I get back to the old
situation where I could file a bookmark to any of the forty or more
sub-folders in my Bookmarks Folder??

(Lately, any bookmarks I save are just being added to the bottom of
the
Bookmarks drop-down! :-(  )



In the New Bookmark dialog it has a line Folder:  with a button
saying
Bookmarks Menu.  Click the down arrow to the right.  Click on
"Choose."
  Choose your folder and click "Save."


Thanks for that, Ed, but as I typed above, when I click "Choose", I
only
get offered those sub-folders that I have saved to recently (the half
dozen or so listed) not the full screen length list.




Odd. WFM. SM 2.40 release channel.



Hmm!! Looking at our UserAgents

You are Win 10 and include FF/43.0 and your addressbook works
Mine Win7 no mention of FF and my addressbook fails

Don't know if that might help any devs lurking.



Edit - Preferences - Advanced - HTTP Networking - check Advertise
Firefox compatibility.


Been there, done that ... and undone it  several times, Ed!



Why undo it?  You'll have less problems online if you advertise FF 
compatibility.



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Re: Facebook problem when using SM

[stan pierce]

stan pierce wrote:

Today I had trouble posting to FaceBook. It wouldn't add a photo. I just
tried it with IE and it works OK.  This worked yesterday with SM and has
been working regularly for months. The only changes I have made are (1)
uninstall Pluto and (2) restart my computer and install updates to
Windows 10. I did try reinstalling Adobe Flash and that has no effect.

Thanks
Stan


By the way I am using SM 2.39
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Facebook problem when using SM

[stan pierce]

Today I had trouble posting to FaceBook. It wouldn't add a photo. I just 
tried it with IE and it works OK.  This worked yesterday with SM and has 
been working regularly for months. The only changes I have made are (1) 
uninstall Pluto and (2) restart my computer and install updates to 
Windows 10. I did try reinstalling Adobe Flash and that has no effect.


Thanks
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Re: Email connection needed

[Richard Owlett]

On 4/20/2016 9:52 AM, Bonnell Frost wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Bonnell Frost wrote on 19/04/2016 23:02:

Presently email sent to me at bfr...@skybeam.com bounces.  I have
cleaned up a lot of messages and dumped trash.
I need to have my email connection activated.  Sending works
fine.
Bonnell Frost

What is the error ? ... that produce the bounce ?



-
I get no error message.  Just that there are no messages to be
downloaded.  Tried to send to another one of my emails, no response.


A "bounce" and a "non arrival" are different problems.
For a bounce. the sender receives the error message.
I've copied this message to you so we can determine which it is.

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Richard Owlett]

On 4/20/2016 10:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/20/2016 9:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:





Not to start a flameware but it seems to run contrary to the
concept of an "Internet Suite" where browser and email clients
are combined. Would not separate clients such a Firefox and
Thunderbird be a simpler and more suitable solution?



"Suite" may not be the best word, but it was closest I could
think of.


It also happens to be the word the developers use so I think is
applies:



"The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to develop the
SeaMonkey all-in-one internet application suite"



SeaMonkey comes so close to my ideal, to miss by a
"femto-smidgen" is
annoying.
I will just have to continue editing my preferences as I switch
tasks.


I think you miss my point. If you want to tab some meat and ladle
some soup without contaminating each then a single tool the spork
is not the best option over a separate fork and spoon.


You're assuming I'm normal. Siblings would dispute that.





To paraphrase P. T. Barnum, "You can satisfy some of the people
all of
the time. You can satisfy all of the people some of the time.
You can
not satisfy all of the people all of the time."   ;/




Actually that was Abe Lincoln ;-)



Both seem to have been given credit.
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question58275.html
http://www.worldofquotes.com/topic/Deceit/1/
http://members.tripod.com/~mr_sedivy/quotes17.html

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Email bounces

[Bonnell Frost]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

They weren't generated properly at all.  Currently fixing them (though,
README is online).

Once again, sorry for the fubar there..


Edmund



I believe I've fixed this issue.

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/20/2016 9:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:





Not to start a flameware but it seems to run contrary to the
concept of an "Internet Suite" where browser and email clients
are combined. Would not separate clients such a Firefox and
Thunderbird be a simpler and more suitable solution?



"Suite" may not be the best word, but it was closest I could think of.


It also happens to be the word the developers use so I think is applies:



"The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to develop the SeaMonkey 
all-in-one internet application suite"




SeaMonkey comes so close to my ideal, to miss by a "femto-smidgen" is
annoying.
I will just have to continue editing my preferences as I switch tasks.


I think you miss my point. If you want to tab some meat and ladle some 
soup without contaminating each then a single tool the spork is not the 
best option over a separate fork and spoon.




To paraphrase P. T. Barnum, "You can satisfy some of the people all of
the time. You can satisfy all of the people some of the time. You can
not satisfy all of the people all of the time."   ;/




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Re: Email connection needed

[Bonnell Frost]

Ray_Net wrote:

Bonnell Frost wrote on 19/04/2016 23:02:

Presently email sent to me at bfr...@skybeam.com bounces.  I have
cleaned up a lot of messages and dumped trash.
I need to have my email connection activated.  Sending works fine.
Bonnell Frost

What is the error ? ... that produce the bounce ?



-
I get no error message.  Just that there are no messages to be 
downloaded.  Tried to send to another one of my emails, no response.

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Richard Owlett]

On 4/20/2016 9:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 6:02 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 1:16 PM, EE wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser
defaults
make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA


Mail and newsgroups do not involve the browser.  If you mean
that you
want the browser to work when you click a link in either mail or
newsgroup message, that should work regardless.



No, I think Owlett wants to be able to switch browser profiles
without
losing the current mail-news session (without switching mail-news
profile).



That is the idea. Your phrasing may be a little more
restrictive than
what I'm thinking of.



Not to start a flameware but it seems to run contrary to the
concept of an "Internet Suite" where browser and email clients
are combined. Would not separate clients such a Firefox and
Thunderbird be a simpler and more suitable solution?



"Suite" may not be the best word, but it was closest I could 
think of.
SeaMonkey comes so close to my ideal, to miss by a 
"femto-smidgen" is annoying.
I will just have to continue editing my preferences as I switch 
tasks.


To paraphrase P. T. Barnum, "You can satisfy some of the people 
all of the time. You can satisfy all of the people some of the 
time. You can not satisfy all of the people all of the time."   ;/



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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 6:02 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 1:16 PM, EE wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser defaults
make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA


Mail and newsgroups do not involve the browser.  If you mean that you
want the browser to work when you click a link in either mail or
newsgroup message, that should work regardless.



No, I think Owlett wants to be able to switch browser profiles without
losing the current mail-news session (without switching mail-news
profile).



That is the idea. Your phrasing may be a little more restrictive than
what I'm thinking of.



Not to start a flameware but it seems to run contrary to the concept of 
an "Internet Suite" where browser and email clients are combined. Would 
not separate clients such a Firefox and Thunderbird be a simpler and 
more suitable solution?




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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[WaltS48]

On 04/19/2016 09:37 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/19/2016 05:36 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 2:43 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 10:45 AM, WaltS48 wrote:


Use 2 profiles.


Of course. I'll even quote myself:

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].



Well, then, I spose the way to go would be to have both profiles
point to the same mail folders. Obviously, you must not have both
profiles open at the same time.



_*HOW*_ ?



_*Why?

*_Work_**_on browser project #1 with the Mail & Newsgroups profile.

Work on browser project #2 with just a browser profile.



*NO*

Question itself *EXPLICITLY* eliminates that as being acceptable!




Create a profile just for Mail & Newsgroups, start it with
whatever command Windows uses to start just that window, and use
it for both browser projects, while having separate profiles for
each browser project.

How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.

I will re-quote a key statement in my original post

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
   _*[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]*_



Looks like nobody knows how, or isn't inclined to experiment creating 
customized tags, status, flags, etc in one profile and figuring out how 
to move it all to another.


Too complicated for me to attempt, and I have experimented to help solve 
problems in the past.


Heck, SeaMonkey is too complicated to setup an email account in for me. 
I have no idea what the port numbers are. Thunderbird finds and enters 
that information for me.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

[Richard Owlett]

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet 
accounts [including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "


I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to 
me!!
Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags 
available.

As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.






_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings ->  -> Server Settings.

Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You
can make two or more more profiles share the same mail directory
by setting each account to the same file path in the local
directory field.


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Re: Email connection needed

[Daniel]

On 20/04/2016 7:02 AM, Bonnell Frost wrote:

Presently email sent to me at bfr...@skybeam.com bounces.  I have
cleaned up a lot of messages and dumped trash.
I need to have my email connection activated.  Sending works fine.
Bonnell Frost


Bonnell, what type of mail function are you using??

If IMAP, where (as I understand it) your Inbox mail is stored on a 
server somewhere until *you* move it to another folder on *your* 
computer, either you need to clean out your IMAP folder or ask your 
Provider for a bigger mailbox folder.


If POP, where you download all of your mail from your ISP onto your 
computer then you move it to other folders, you may have heaps of 
"moved" mail still stored in your Inbox. Try doing File->Compact Folders 
or even File->Empty Trash then File->Compact Folders.


Hmm, can IMAP folders be File->Compact Folders to help clean them out, I 
wonder!!


Another alternative, as you are a Windows user, would be to make sure, 
in Windows Explorer, that all Email account Hierarchy folders are *not* 
marked as "Read Only"!


Didn't you post a similar/same problem a fortnight or so ago?? Did those 
suggestions not work?? Why didn't you just post to that same thread??


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Re: File->Bookmark broken??

[Daniel]

On 20/04/2016 1:23 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/19/2016 4:27 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

On 19/04/2016 1:45 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/18/2016 11:40 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

On 19/04/2016 1:06 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/18/2016 7:37 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

Normally, when I file a Bookmark, I want to put it in a particular
Group/Sub-Folder, but, with this Windows version of SM 2.40, I'm
having
troubles getting to particular Sub-Folders, e.g. somebody recently
posted a link to http://info.cern.ch/ with a claim that it was the
first
*ever* website, so I thought I'd save the link in my "General"
Sub-Folder of my Bookmarks.

Previously, a sub-screen would open showing my Bookmarks file
structure
and I would just select the Sub-Folder that I wanted the new Bookmark
saved to, then click "O.K." and ... job done.

Now, I think, when I click on Bookmarks->File Bookmark, I am taken
to a
"New Bookmark" screen, which allows me to add bits and pieces about
the
new bookmark, but doesn't allow me to select the particular
sub-folder
that I want the Bookmark saved to  unless it happens to be one of
the half dozen or so listed on the "Folder:" drop-down of the
sub-screen. Where this list comes from, I don't know ... unless it
is a
listing of the sub-folders to which I may have previously filed
bookmarks directly to.

Have I started doing something wrong?? How do I get back to the old
situation where I could file a bookmark to any of the forty or more
sub-folders in my Bookmarks Folder??

(Lately, any bookmarks I save are just being added to the bottom of
the
Bookmarks drop-down! :-(  )



In the New Bookmark dialog it has a line Folder:  with a button saying
Bookmarks Menu.  Click the down arrow to the right.  Click on
"Choose."
  Choose your folder and click "Save."


Thanks for that, Ed, but as I typed above, when I click "Choose", I
only
get offered those sub-folders that I have saved to recently (the half
dozen or so listed) not the full screen length list.




Odd. WFM. SM 2.40 release channel.



Hmm!! Looking at our UserAgents

You are Win 10 and include FF/43.0 and your addressbook works
Mine Win7 no mention of FF and my addressbook fails

Don't know if that might help any devs lurking.



Edit - Preferences - Advanced - HTTP Networking - check Advertise
Firefox compatibility.


Been there, done that ... and undone it  several times, Ed!

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Re: File->Bookmark broken??

[Daniel]

On 20/04/2016 1:44 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/19/2016 04:27 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 19/04/2016 1:45 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/18/2016 11:40 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

On 19/04/2016 1:06 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/18/2016 7:37 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off:

Normally, when I file a Bookmark, I want to put it in a particular
Group/Sub-Folder, but, with this Windows version of SM 2.40, I'm
having
troubles getting to particular Sub-Folders, e.g. somebody recently
posted a link to http://info.cern.ch/ with a claim that it was the
first
*ever* website, so I thought I'd save the link in my "General"
Sub-Folder of my Bookmarks.

Previously, a sub-screen would open showing my Bookmarks file
structure
and I would just select the Sub-Folder that I wanted the new Bookmark
saved to, then click "O.K." and ... job done.

Now, I think, when I click on Bookmarks->File Bookmark, I am taken
to a
"New Bookmark" screen, which allows me to add bits and pieces
about the
new bookmark, but doesn't allow me to select the particular
sub-folder
that I want the Bookmark saved to  unless it happens to be one of
the half dozen or so listed on the "Folder:" drop-down of the
sub-screen. Where this list comes from, I don't know ... unless it
is a
listing of the sub-folders to which I may have previously filed
bookmarks directly to.

Have I started doing something wrong?? How do I get back to the old
situation where I could file a bookmark to any of the forty or more
sub-folders in my Bookmarks Folder??

(Lately, any bookmarks I save are just being added to the bottom
of the
Bookmarks drop-down! :-(  )



In the New Bookmark dialog it has a line Folder:  with a button saying
Bookmarks Menu.  Click the down arrow to the right.  Click on
"Choose."
  Choose your folder and click "Save."


Thanks for that, Ed, but as I typed above, when I click "Choose", I
only
get offered those sub-folders that I have saved to recently (the half
dozen or so listed) not the full screen length list.




Odd. WFM. SM 2.40 release channel.



Hmm!! Looking at our UserAgents

You are Win 10 and include FF/43.0 and your addressbook works
Mine Win7 no mention of FF and my addressbook fails

Don't know if that might help any devs lurking.



When did this become an Address Book problem, instead of a Bookmarks
Folder problem?

Seems like that should be a separate Subject thread.


Opps!! Well picked up, Walt!! :-[

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