date:20160504


...

MAY 04, 2016  |  08:39AM EDT
LaToya replied:

We apologize for your difficulties in accessing our site due to the
recent introduction of a browser check and request to upgrade your
browser. We have introduced new features to our site to update its use
and some of these features are only explicitly supported by newer
mainstream browser versions. It’s good to hear you did not have issues
with our new features in your browser or older version of the browser,
so our development team will loosen the upgrade rules so your browser
will not get this check and message.
+

No changes yet. I'll guess their geniuses are attempting to finesse the
issue, somehow.


Wow, yours was similiar to what I got earlier today. :/
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU


gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

xxx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?


Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??


Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/


Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
problem), or was that a typo?

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What 5-year-old software?


SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.

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I already answered.

2.40 Two point four zero


OK, two point forty. Thanks for your first clear answer. The only other 
time you'd mentioned two point forty was to say that there are no more 
recent versions than that -- as if you thought "2.4 = 2.40." It isn't.


So we'll have to look elsewhere for the problem.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

2016-05-04 Thread Paul in Houston, TX


gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:


2 Seamonkey windows, first with 1 tab, second with 20, 6 of which are Facebook. 
Facebook is one of those sites that normally kills my browser. CPU% went up to 
65% while pages loading, now in the teens, was below that, right now went up to 
52% while I was typing, right now at 13-23%.
Seamonkey is using 1.0 GB of memory.
Anybody care to guess what the problem was and what happened?


Not enough memory for all those things.
32 bit limits you to about 4g ram.
Vital processes and video will eat about 1.5g, leaving you 2.5g to do fun stuff 
with.
Don't run anything else at the same time as SM and keep tabs to absolute min, like less 
than 2.  Clear SM cache often, let Win handle the o/s page file.


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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:37:55 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:08:06 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > > xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > > >> xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com 
> > > >>> wrote:
> > >  On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com 
> > >  wrote:
> > > > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates 
> > > > automatically!?!?
> > > 
> > >  Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey 
> > >  window. Now what??
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> > > >>
> > > >> Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
> > > >> you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
> > > >> problem), or was that a typo?
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Paul B. Gallagher
> > > >
> > > > What 5-year-old software?
> > > 
> > > SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> > > --
> > > Paul B. Gallagher
> > 
> > I already answered.
> > 
> > 2.40 Two point four zero
> 
> TWO POINT FOUR ZERO
> 
> I already tried Safe Mode. It did not help at all.
> 
> Per Speccy: here's the software and hardware (video card detailed above but 
> repeated now):
> 
> Operating System
>   Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1
>   Computer type: Desktop
>   Installation Date: 12/23/2015 4:13:11 AM
>   Serial Number: X-X-X-X-X
>   Windows Security Center
>   User Account Control (UAC)  Disabled
>   Windows Update
>   AutoUpdate  Notify prior to download
>   Windows Defender
>   Windows DefenderEnabled
>   .NET Frameworks installed
>   v4.6 Full
>   v4.6 Client
>   v3.5 SP1
>   v3.0 SP2
>   v2.0 SP2
>   Internet Explorer
>   Version 11.0.9600.18124
> CPU
>   AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
>   Cores   2
>   Threads 2
>   NameAMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
>   Code Name   Brisbane
>   Package Socket  AM2 (940)
>   Technology  65nm
>   Specification   AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
>   Family  F
>   Extended Family F
>   Model   B
>   Extended Model  6B
>   Stepping1
>   RevisionBH-G1
>   InstructionsMMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2,
>   SSE3, AMD 64, NX, VMX
>   Virtualization  Supported, Enabled
>   Hyperthreading  Not supported
>   Fan Speed   1473 RPM
>   Rated Bus Speed 1004.4 MHz
>   Stock Core Speed2100 MHz
>   Stock Bus Speed 200 MHz
>   Average Temperature 34 °C
>   Caches
>   L1 Data Cache Size  2 x 64 KBytes
>   L1 Instructions Cache Size  2 x 64 KBytes
>   L2 Unified Cache Size   2 x 512 KBytes
>   Cores [table, deleted here]
> RAM
>   Memory slots
>   Total memory slots  4
>   Used memory slots   4
>   Free memory slots   0
>   Memory
>   TypeDDR2
>   Size4096 MBytes
>   Channels #  Dual
>   DRAM Frequency  200.9 MHz
>   CAS# Latency (CL)   6 clocks
>   RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)   6 clocks
>   RAS# Precharge (tRP)6 clocks
>   Cycle Time (tRAS)   18 clocks
>   Bank Cycle Time (tRC)   25 clocks
>   Command Rate (CR)   2T
>   Physical Memory
>   Memory Usage43 %
>   Total Physical  3.50 GB
>   Available Physical  1.96 GB
>   Total Virtual   7.00 GB
>   Available Virtual   5.17 GB
>   SPD
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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

2016-05-04 Thread cmcadams

Gordon Weast wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/04/2016 09:37 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 5/3/2016 11:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

notme composed on 2016-05-04 00:56 (UTC-0500):

Has anyone from the SeaMonkey development team told these folks that
SeaMonkey is just a variation of Firefox?

Probably not. Why don't you? Here's a way to start:
http://geckoisgecko.org/

Let's all do it! :)

That's a good idea, but input from the development team is likely to
carry more weight than input from the user community.

You might have better luck reporting it at

Web compatibility is about making sure web sites work consistently
across all browsers and devices.

Thank you for the suggestion. I opened a problem with them. Others
might want to comment as well here:

https://webcompat.com/issues/2517

Dave

I just tried weather.com with Seamonkey 2.40 and hit their nag dialog that won't
close at all. I did manage to send a problem report and just got an email
response
that they received it.

I don't know if anyone there will do anything about it though. I let them know
that
I won't be using their service or see any of their ads until they fix it.

The Intellicast web site works fine, so I'm switching back to that one for
weather
radar and forecasts.

Gordon

Had the same problem with their interactive weather map at

http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/l/USTX0327:1:US?interactiveMapLayer=radar=r

and sent them a msg about it last night. Received this response:

+
MAY 04, 2016 | 08:39AM EDT
LaToya replied:

We apologize for your difficulties in accessing our site due to the recent
introduction of a browser check and request to upgrade your browser. We have
introduced new features to our site to update its use and some of these features are
only explicitly supported by newer mainstream browser versions. It’s good to hear you
did not have issues with our new features in your browser or older version of the
browser, so our development team will loosen the upgrade rules so your browser will
not get this check and message.

No changes yet. I'll guess their geniuses are attempting to finesse the issue,
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:08:06 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > >> xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com 
> > >>> wrote:
> >  On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com 
> >  wrote:
> > > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
> > 
> >  Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey 
> >  window. Now what??
> > >>>
> > >>> Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
> > >> you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
> > >> problem), or was that a typo?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> > >> --
> > >> Paul B. Gallagher
> > >
> > > What 5-year-old software?
> > 
> > SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.
> > 
> > -- 
> > War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> > --
> > Paul B. Gallagher
> 
> I already answered.
> 
> 2.40 Two point four zero

TWO POINT FOUR ZERO

I already tried Safe Mode. It did not help at all.

Per Speccy: here's the software and hardware (video card detailed above but 
repeated now):

Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1
Computer type: Desktop
Installation Date: 12/23/2015 4:13:11 AM
Serial Number: X-X-X-X-X
Windows Security Center
User Account Control (UAC)  Disabled
Windows Update
AutoUpdate  Notify prior to download
Windows Defender
Windows DefenderEnabled
.NET Frameworks installed
v4.6 Full
v4.6 Client
v3.5 SP1
v3.0 SP2
v2.0 SP2
Internet Explorer
Version 11.0.9600.18124
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
Cores   2
Threads 2
NameAMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
Code Name   Brisbane
Package Socket  AM2 (940)
Technology  65nm
Specification   AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
Family  F
Extended Family F
Model   B
Extended Model  6B
Stepping1
RevisionBH-G1
InstructionsMMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2,
SSE3, AMD 64, NX, VMX
Virtualization  Supported, Enabled
Hyperthreading  Not supported
Fan Speed   1473 RPM
Rated Bus Speed 1004.4 MHz
Stock Core Speed2100 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 200 MHz
Average Temperature 34 °C
Caches
L1 Data Cache Size  2 x 64 KBytes
L1 Instructions Cache Size  2 x 64 KBytes
L2 Unified Cache Size   2 x 512 KBytes
Cores [table, deleted here]
RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots  4
Used memory slots   4
Free memory slots   0
Memory
TypeDDR2
Size4096 MBytes
Channels #  Dual
DRAM Frequency  200.9 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL)   6 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)   6 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP)6 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS)   18 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC)   25 clocks
Command Rate (CR)   2T
Physical Memory
Memory Usage43 %
Total Physical  3.50 GB
Available Physical  1.96 GB
Total Virtual   7.00 GB
Available Virtual   5.17 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules   4
Slot #1
Slot #2
Slot #3
Slot #4
Motherboard

Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> >> xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
>  On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
> 
>  Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey 
>  window. Now what??
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> >>
> >> Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
> >> you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
> >> problem), or was that a typo?
> >>
> >> --
> >> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> >> --
> >> Paul B. Gallagher
> >
> > What 5-year-old software?
> 
> SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher

I already answered.

2.40 Two point four zero
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU


gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

xxx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?


Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??


Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/


Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
problem), or was that a typo?

--
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What 5-year-old software?


SM 2.4, which is 36 versions older than 2.40.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU


On 05/04/2016 06:24 PM, gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

xxx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?

Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??

Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are
you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the
problem), or was that a typo?


Paul B. Gallagher

What 5-year-old software?


Dude just answer the question. Are you using SeaMonkey 2.40 or the five 
year old 2.4 version.


It would be nice to know.

We got it it you are running a 32-bit version on a 32-bit OS. What is 
your CPU speed? How much memory does your computer have?


What are the addresses of the 14 tabs you have open that are causing 
your problem?


Those are just some of the things you should have stated in your first 
post, and need to answer if you want help.


Do you know what safe mode is? Have you tried it?



Does it solve your problem?

If not did you try a new profile?



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On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-7, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> xxx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
> >>
> >> Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey 
> >> window. Now what??
> >
> > Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.
> >
> > http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> 
> Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are 
> you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the 
> problem), or was that a typo?
> 
> -- 
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What 5-year-old software?
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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU


gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:

SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?


Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??


Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/


Yeah, but you didn't say "2.40," you said 2.4." That's why I asked. Are 
you really running five-year-old software (which could help explain the 
problem), or was that a typo?


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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?
> 
> Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. 
> Now what??

Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
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On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote:
> SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!?

Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. Now 
what??
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On 05/04/2016 03:08 PM, gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:

Right now SeaMonkey is consuming 85% of my CPU. I am not watching any Flash 
videos, I am just surfing. I have one instance of SeaMonkey running and 14 tabs 
open.


It must hungry and the CPU tasty.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU


On 5/4/2016 1:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:


SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)


Say again???

SeaMonkey 2.4 was released September 27, 2011.


Maybe v2.40. :P
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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!


On 5/4/2016 10:01 AM, NFN Smith wrote:

Ant wrote:


I will be using http://geckoisgecko.org/ for now on. It's much better
than me having to explain it!



The intention there is good, but IMO, the value is somewhat limited, by
the fact that too much of the data is several years old.

...

Wow, last updated on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:07:20 PM. It needs to be 
updated badly! Who owns it? I couldn't find a contact method until I did 
a domain look up and found geckoisgecko@contactprivacy.com. I guess 
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gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote:


SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)


Say again???

SeaMonkey 2.4 was released September 27, 2011.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit)
Windows 7 32-bit
At CMD DOS Box, ver: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213 (as read from SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager)

Video card (info via Speccy program):
ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570
ManufacturerATI
Model   AMD Radeon HD 6570
GPU Turks
Device ID   1002-6759
Subvendor   Diamond (1092)
Current Performance Level   Level 0
Voltage 0.900 V
Die Size118 mm²
Release DateApr 19, 2011
DirectX Support 11.0
DirectX Shader Model5.0
OpenGL Support  4.2
GPU Clock   650.0 MHz
Temperature 52 °C
Core Voltage1.050 V
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Re: Modifying useragent string

2016-05-04 Thread David E. Ross

On 5/4/2016 10:52 AM, EE wrote:
> Desiree wrote:
>> On 5/3/2016 1:22 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>> I used to know how to change it, but having a senior moment.
>>>
>> The extension User Agent Switcher works well.
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/user-agent-switcher/
>>
>> I've used it for many years on Fx and recently added it to SeaMonkey.
>>
>> You will need to import the user agent list from
>> http://techpatterns.com/forums/about304.html.
> 
> Why do the people who make these lists of user-agents not fill in all 
> the blanks other than vendor?  If the appcodename, appname, appversion, 
> and platform are left blank, it becomes obvious that the user-agent is 
> faked.
> 

PrefBar only needs a user-defined name for the UA string plus the UA
string itself.  The import file is NOT .xml, which is what User Agent
Switcher uses.

I hand-edit the UA menulist from a log of visits to my Web site, which
contains the UAs of visiting browsers.  I do this about once every 1-2
months in my primary SeaMonkey profile.  Then I export the menulist and
import it to my other profiles and to the SeaMonkey profiles on my
wife's PC, each time deleting the existing menulist before importing the
new one.

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Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

2016-05-04 Thread Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

On Wed, 4 May 2016 12:08:55 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com
wrote:

>Right now SeaMonkey is consuming 85% of my CPU. I am not watching any Flash 
>videos, I am just surfing. I have one instance of SeaMonkey running and 14 
>tabs open.

What version of Seamonkey? 32 or 64-bit? What version of Flash? What
video card and driver version? What OS? OS is 32 or 64 bit? Need more
info.

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SeaMonkey consumes my CPU

Right now SeaMonkey is consuming 85% of my CPU. I am not watching any Flash 
videos, I am just surfing. I have one instance of SeaMonkey running and 14 tabs 
open.
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Re: Searching SeaMonkey Bookmarks

2016-05-04 Thread EE


no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Can you please tell me the name of the add-on? Thanks!

EE wrote:

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Using the Search Bookmarks function of the SeaMonkey Managing Bookmarks
tool, once you have found a particular bookmark, how do you determine
its current location in the Bookmarks folder hierarchy?

Thanks!

John


The problem is that you cannot do that.  There is an extension that can
fetch the folder name for you on the addons site.




This is it.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/show-parent-folder/
It is for Firefox, so you need to run it through the converter and hope 
it actually works in SeaMonkey.  The converter is here:

http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/

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Re: Modifying useragent string

2016-05-04 Thread EE


Desiree wrote:

On 5/3/2016 1:22 PM, G. Ross wrote:

I used to know how to change it, but having a senior moment.


The extension User Agent Switcher works well.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/user-agent-switcher/

I've used it for many years on Fx and recently added it to SeaMonkey.

You will need to import the user agent list from
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about304.html.


Why do the people who make these lists of user-agents not fill in all 
the blanks other than vendor?  If the appcodename, appname, appversion, 
and platform are left blank, it becomes obvious that the user-agent is 
faked.


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Re: Modifying useragent string

2016-05-04 Thread David E. Ross

On 5/4/2016 10:09 AM, NFN Smith wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 5/3/2016 4:22 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>> I used to know how to change it, but having a senior moment.
>>>
>>
>> I use the PrefBar extension.  It contains a menulist called User Agent
>> that allows you to change the UA string.  If you forget that you changed
>> the UA string, it reverts back to your default, when you either launch
>> or terminate SeaMonkey (I do not remember which, but the effect is the
>> same).
>>
>> The data in the User Agent menulist requires updating now and then as
>> other browser developers release new browser versions.  This requires
>> completely deleting the User Agent menulist and then importing the new
>> data.  I can send you my current data, but I am unlikely to keep
>> providing future updates.  If you want a copy of my current data,
>> indicate that in this thread; I will then upload the file to my Web
>> server and report here the URI.
>>
> 
> I concur with PrefBar, although the default strings offered are really old.
> 
> You don't necessarily have to delete the existing list, but you do have 
> to edit, to show the spoofing that you want.  In my experience, I 
> generally update my strings to more current version numbers, about twice 
> a year.
> 
> In my case, I do happen to have Firefox installed, and when I want to 
> update the PrefBar spoofing in Seamonkey, it's easy enough to 
> copy/paste, based on a live installation.
> 
> For other spoofings I do (and I have several), a useful source of 
> strings can be found at: 
> http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php.
> 
> Smith
> 

To edit the menulist, you are correct:  It does not have to be deleted.

To IMPORT a new version of the menulist, however, you must first delete
the existing menulist.  While you can import the new version of a
checkbox or button over an existing one, you cannot import a new version
of a menulist over an old one.  Quite some time ago, this was confirmed
to me in an E-mail from Manuel Reimer, the developer of PrefBar.

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Re: Modifying useragent string

2016-05-04 Thread NFN Smith


David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/3/2016 4:22 PM, G. Ross wrote:

I used to know how to change it, but having a senior moment.



I use the PrefBar extension.  It contains a menulist called User Agent
that allows you to change the UA string.  If you forget that you changed
the UA string, it reverts back to your default, when you either launch
or terminate SeaMonkey (I do not remember which, but the effect is the
same).

The data in the User Agent menulist requires updating now and then as
other browser developers release new browser versions.  This requires
completely deleting the User Agent menulist and then importing the new
data.  I can send you my current data, but I am unlikely to keep
providing future updates.  If you want a copy of my current data,
indicate that in this thread; I will then upload the file to my Web
server and report here the URI.



I concur with PrefBar, although the default strings offered are really old.

You don't necessarily have to delete the existing list, but you do have 
to edit, to show the spoofing that you want.  In my experience, I 
generally update my strings to more current version numbers, about twice 
a year.


In my case, I do happen to have Firefox installed, and when I want to 
update the PrefBar spoofing in Seamonkey, it's easy enough to 
copy/paste, based on a live installation.


For other spoofings I do (and I have several), a useful source of 
strings can be found at: 
http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php.


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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

2016-05-04 Thread NFN Smith


Ant wrote:


I will be using http://geckoisgecko.org/ for now on. It's much better
than me having to explain it!



The intention there is good, but IMO, the value is somewhat limited, by 
the fact that too much of the data is several years old.


Thus, almost everything there is either *very* obscure (e.g., K-meleon), 
or abandoned, or both.


And no mention of newer Gecko-based projects (e.g., Waterfox, IceFox, 
IceDragon, etc.), much less projects that support multiple rendering 
engines (such as Lunascape).


From a standpoint of developers, there is often an attitude of "We 
don't have the capacity of supporting every possible browser and 
operating system", and if every browser is viewed as a unique piece of 
software (even erroneously), that's reasonable.  A look at 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers shows just how many 
browser projects have been discontinued.


However, it's easy for developers to focus too closely on the UI and 
presentation to the user, and miss that, the vast majority of the time, 
the distinguishing factor is not the brand name, but the underlying 
rendering engine, and that most of the time, the brand name is irrelevant.


Most of the time, there is sufficient spoofing that it doesn't matter 
which browser you're using. It's noteworthy that the UA string for other 
browsers (including IE and Chrome) do spoof Mozilla,


Thus, if you go to 
http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php, some 
interesting examples:


- Chrome 41: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, 
like Gecko) Chrome/41.0.2228.0 Safari/537.36


- IE 11 (on Win7-64): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/41.0.2228.0 Safari/537.36


- Edge: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.135 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.246


- Safari 7: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_3) 
AppleWebKit/537.75.14 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.3 Safari/7046A194A


Unfortunately, there are brain-dead developers that are overly-insistent 
on searching for brand identity, than underlying capacity, and too 
clever, in knowing how to search for "Firefox", rather than for "Gecko".


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Re: Seamonkey crashing Flash Player

2016-05-04 Thread Gunneric

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 6:40:05 PM UTC-7, Gunneric wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> This just started with the last update of Seamonkey, but I'm getting the 
> flash player container hanging and crashing Seamonkey.
> 
> I know a few iterations ago of Seamonkey, there was a fix. But for the life 
> of me I can't figure it out now.
> 
> Since then I've gone over to a new computer, though I've moved my profile, I 
> doubt that the fix carried over with the profile.
> 
> Anyone remember how to fix Flash Player container crashing?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Eric

It happens on all pages that have flash.

I think it has something to do with the Lastpass plugin, but I've replicated 
the previous instructions, to remove LastPass from Seamonkey/Firefox that had 
been received from Seamonkey plugin page, unfortunately Lastpass.com tries to 
instal using the plugin manager as well.  I was able to find a stand alone 
installer, but it doesn't include seamonkey in the "Select Browser to instal 
in" section.

Please advise.

TIA

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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!


On 5/4/2016 6:09 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...

That must stink for Internet Explorer users. =-O

The SeaMonkey development team added the "Advertise Firefox
compatibility" preference to Edit > Preferences > Advanced > HTTP
Networking many versions ago. As I understand it, to mitigate these
problems.

SeaMonkey 2.40 advertises itself as Firefox 43 compatible. If Firefox 43
works, and Firefox 38 ESR work then SeaMonkey 2.40 should also work.

The new Brave and Vivaldi browsers both display weather.com without a
problem.

Vivaldi's UA string is, Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64)
AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/50.0.2661.94 Safari/537.36
Vivaldi/1.1.453.52. If they can sniff Chrome out of that they certainly
should be able to sniff Firefox from SeaMonkey's UA string.

It works in my SeaMonkey 2.46a1 Nightly development version. Mozilla/5.0
(X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46a1

Quoting Ant from his second post in the thread.

I was able to get rid of it in my SM v2.40 (default UA).

He did not explain what (default UA) meant. Did setting it to the
default fix it? The default being Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:43.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40?


My SM's help about shows "User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; 
rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40".

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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!


`On 5/4/2016 6:37 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 5/3/2016 11:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

notme composed on 2016-05-04 00:56 (UTC-0500):


Has anyone from the SeaMonkey development team told these folks that
SeaMonkey is just a variation of Firefox?


Probably not. Why don't you? Here's a way to start:
http://geckoisgecko.org/


Let's all do it! :)


That's a good idea, but input from the development team is likely to
carry more weight than input from the user community.


Well, it seems to work so far from my side but we need more to get results:

"... MAY 04, 2016  |  08:39AM EDT
LaToya replied:

We apologize for your difficulties in accessing our site due to the
recent introduction of a browser check and request to upgrade your
browser. We have introduced new features to our site to update its use
and some of these features are only explicitly supported by newer
mainstream browser versions. It’s good to hear you did not have issues
with our new features in your browser or older version of the browser,
so our development team will loosen the upgrade rules so your browser
will not get this check and message.

Thank you for your feedback and we apologize for any inconvenience this
may have caused.

Thanks for being a fan of The Weather Channel! ..."


I will be using http://geckoisgecko.org/ for now on. It's much better 
than me having to explain it!

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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!


...

Sorry I can't test 2.40. I only have 2.46a1 installed, with weather.com
as my home page, and it works fine.


What version is v2.46's UA for its Firefox? I think it doesn't like SM's
v2.40's Firefox version in its UA. :(


FF equivalent version = SM bits plus 1 so SM 2.46 is equivalent to FF 2
+ 46 + 1 = FF 49


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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

2016-05-04 Thread Gordon Weast


David H. Durgee wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/04/2016 09:37 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 5/3/2016 11:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

notme composed on 2016-05-04 00:56 (UTC-0500):


Has anyone from the SeaMonkey development team told these folks that
SeaMonkey is just a variation of Firefox?


Probably not. Why don't you? Here's a way to start:
http://geckoisgecko.org/


Let's all do it! :)


That's a good idea, but input from the development team is likely to
carry more weight than input from the user community.


You might have better luck reporting it at 


Web compatibility is about making sure web sites work consistently
across all browsers and devices.




Thank you for the suggestion.  I opened a problem with them.  Others
might want to comment as well here:

https://webcompat.com/issues/2517

Dave


I just tried weather.com with Seamonkey 2.40 and hit their nag dialog 
that won't close at all.  I did manage to send a problem report and just 
got an email response that they received it.


I don't know if anyone there will do anything about it though.  I let 
them know that I won't be using their service or see any of their ads 
until they fix it.


The Intellicast web site works fine, so I'm switching back to that one 
for weather radar and forecasts.


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Re: I keep trying to post messages...

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel


On 4/05/2016 11:55 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Why did you post with this option ? This is a stupid option, because
people answering without this option and without quoting your text
 post a message who have no sense if your message have been
disappeared ...


It affords one an opportunity to practice zen...what is the sound of one
hand clapping? ;-)


So you've seen and heard me clapping, then!!

(Cross-posted to and follow-up set to moz.general)

--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

2016-05-04 Thread David H. Durgee


WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/04/2016 09:37 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 5/3/2016 11:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

notme composed on 2016-05-04 00:56 (UTC-0500):


Has anyone from the SeaMonkey development team told these folks that
SeaMonkey is just a variation of Firefox?


Probably not. Why don't you? Here's a way to start:
http://geckoisgecko.org/


Let's all do it! :)


That's a good idea, but input from the development team is likely to
carry more weight than input from the user community.


You might have better luck reporting it at 


Web compatibility is about making sure web sites work consistently
across all browsers and devices.




Thank you for the suggestion.  I opened a problem with them.  Others 
might want to comment as well here:


https://webcompat.com/issues/2517

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Re: I keep trying to post messages...

2016-05-04 Thread Jonathan N. Little


Ray_Net wrote:

Why did you post with this option ? This is a stupid option, because
people answering without this option and without quoting your text
 post a message who have no sense if your message have been
disappeared ...


It affords one an opportunity to practice zen...what is the sound of one 
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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!


On 05/04/2016 09:37 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 5/3/2016 11:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

notme composed on 2016-05-04 00:56 (UTC-0500):


Has anyone from the SeaMonkey development team told these folks that
SeaMonkey is just a variation of Firefox?


Probably not. Why don't you? Here's a way to start:
http://geckoisgecko.org/


Let's all do it! :)


That's a good idea, but input from the development team is likely to 
carry more weight than input from the user community.


You might have better luck reporting it at 

Web compatibility is about making sure web sites work consistently 
across all browsers and devices.


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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

2016-05-04 Thread notme


Ant wrote:

On 5/3/2016 11:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

notme composed on 2016-05-04 00:56 (UTC-0500):


Has anyone from the SeaMonkey development team told these folks that
SeaMonkey is just a variation of Firefox?


Probably not. Why don't you? Here's a way to start:
http://geckoisgecko.org/


Let's all do it! :)


That's a good idea, but input from the development team is likely to 
carry more weight than input from the user community.

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Re: I keep trying to post messages...

2016-05-04 Thread Ray_Net


Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 04/05/2016 13:12:

On Wed, 4 May 2016 01:19:21 +0300, Stanimir Stamenkov
 wrote:


Mon, 02 May 2016 06:07:59 -0500, /Thee Chicago Wolf/ (MVP):

On Mon, 2 May 2016 07:14:29 +0200, Petr Voralek wrote:


   This happens to me for the majority of posts from OP on newsgroup.  I
always assumed that the reason is "X-No-Archive: yes" in his posts and I
kept it did not deal with...

I don't think X-No-archive is the issue. I don't think a single Usenet
provider honors that.

Believe it or not this is the most probable cause as I'm observing
the same behavior with messages (even the complete thread following
including my replies to it) from this group sent by Felix Miata,
which also appear to send using "X-No-Archive: yes".  I don't
understand why you're sending it anyway.

I've had it set on my Usenet client for 15+ years. Why change it now?
Been working fine with it enabled all these years.



Why did you post with this option ?
This is a stupid option, because people answering without this option 
and without quoting your text 

post a message who have no sense if your message have been disappeared ...
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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

At the bottom of the article at
http://feedback.weather.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2355405-why-do-i-need-to-update-my-browser?=twc-older-browser-overlay

there is a link to the organization behind this:

https://browser-update.org/update.html

They only recognize four browsers as being "up to date":
Firefox, Opera, Chrome, and Edge.

Has anyone from the SeaMonkey development team told these folks that
SeaMonkey is just a variation of Firefox? It seems to me that the
recognition of that fact is central to resolving this issue, not only
with weather.com but also with other sites that object to SeaMonkey.

John

That must stink for Internet Explorer users. =-O

The SeaMonkey development team added the "Advertise Firefox
compatibility" preference to Edit > Preferences > Advanced > HTTP
Networking many versions ago. As I understand it, to mitigate these
problems.

SeaMonkey 2.40 advertises itself as Firefox 43 compatible. If Firefox 43
works, and Firefox 38 ESR work then SeaMonkey 2.40 should also work.

The new Brave and Vivaldi browsers both display weather.com without a
problem.

Vivaldi's UA string is, Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64)
AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/50.0.2661.94 Safari/537.36
Vivaldi/1.1.453.52. If they can sniff Chrome out of that they certainly
should be able to sniff Firefox from SeaMonkey's UA string.

It works in my SeaMonkey 2.46a1 Nightly development version. Mozilla/5.0
(X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46a1

Quoting Ant from his second post in the thread.

I was able to get rid of it in my SM v2.40 (default UA).
He did not explain what (default UA) meant. Did setting it to the
default fix it? The default being Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:43.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40?

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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel


On 4/05/2016 3:50 PM, Ant wrote:

On 5/3/2016 5:29 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/03/2016 03:39 PM, Ant wrote:

"Upgrade now!
Don't miss out on a better weather.com.

We no longer support this version of the browser. Please upgrade to
ensure you get the best weather.com experience possible.

Internet Explorer Icon Firefox Icon Chrome Icon Safari Icon

Have questions? --
http://feedback.weather.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2355405-why-do-i-need-to-update-my-browser?=twc-older-browser-overlay



I'm not interested in upgrading"


Uh huh. SeaMonkey web browsers are based on Firefox's Gecko engines! :(


I think weather.com was asking users to try the new site before it went
live and provide feedback. It appears that is no longer the case, and I
still see the old site.

Sorry I can't test 2.40. I only have 2.46a1 installed, with weather.com
as my home page, and it works fine.


What version is v2.46's UA for its Firefox? I think it doesn't like SM's
v2.40's Firefox version in its UA. :(


FF equivalent version = SM bits plus 1 so SM 2.46 is equivalent to FF 2 
+ 46 + 1 = FF 49


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

2016-05-04 Thread Daniel


On 4/05/2016 11:27 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Ant wrote:

"Upgrade now!
Don't miss out on a better weather.com.

We no longer support this version of the browser. Please upgrade to
ensure you get the
best weather.com experience possible.

 Internet Explorer Icon Firefox Icon Chrome Icon Safari Icon


Site likes my UA.  I really would have not thought so.
Maybe they like strings they don't understand.
Now that I think about it, I have not had any problems at any site.  Odd.
User-Agent: Mozilla/6.0 (Windows NT 9: ; WOW128; rv:66.0) Gecko/20200101
Firefox/66.0


66 ... Gee Whiz, talk about ya bleeding edge!!

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Costco Website Photos Not Fully Rendering.... Suggestions?

2016-05-04 Thread SamuelS


SamuelS wrote:

Hello all,

Whenever I go to www.costco.com I find that the photos are not fully 
rendering. There are photos just under the search bar to the right of 
'Shop All Departments' which will only render for four (4) seconds 
before disappearing.


This happens using SM 2.4 and either W 7pro or W 10 pro or Vista pro 
and not in any other browser I have tried.


Suggestions about settings?

TIA - bo1953

Thank you one and all for the input!
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Re: Modifying useragent string

2016-05-04 Thread Desiree


On 5/3/2016 1:22 PM, G. Ross wrote:

I used to know how to change it, but having a senior moment.


The extension User Agent Switcher works well.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/user-agent-switcher/

I've used it for many years on Fx and recently added it to SeaMonkey.

You will need to import the user agent list from 
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about304.html.

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Re: weather.com nags me to upgrade my SeaMonkey web browser!

2016-05-04 Thread Big Jim


On 5/4/2016 2:36 AM, Ant wrote:

On 5/3/2016 11:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

notme composed on 2016-05-04 00:56 (UTC-0500):


Has anyone from the SeaMonkey development team told these folks that
SeaMonkey is just a variation of Firefox?


Probably not. Why don't you? Here's a way to start:
http://geckoisgecko.org/


Let's all do it! :)
I used their feedback site to send a complaint. There is a provision to 
send an email.

http://feedback.weather.com/
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