Re: Lightning Add-on no longer available for SeaMonkey?

2016-07-11 Thread NoOp
On 7/11/2016 8:04 PM, John Duncan wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> Is Lightning no longer available for SeaMonkey 2.40? Went to
>> update/install on a system and ran into "Not available for SeaMOnkey
>> 2.40" see:
>> 
>>
>> What's up with that?
>>
>> Does every new SeaMonkey 2.40 user now need to go to:
>> 
>> and load 4.5b1 (Beta) directly now?
>>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/downloads/file/383795/lightning-4.5b1-sm+tb-mac.xpi
> 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/lightning/versions/beta
> 
> you need to manually go to the beta versions on AMO, I think.
> 

New users (even many existing users) won't know to go to beta versions,
whether on the developer.mozilla.org link that I provided, or your link.
They will instead stop at:

Not available for SeaMonkey 2.40?
This add-on is not compatible with your version of SeaMonkey because of
the following:

Add-on has opted into strict compatibility checking.
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Re: Lightning Add-on no longer available for SeaMonkey?

2016-07-11 Thread John Duncan

NoOp wrote:

Is Lightning no longer available for SeaMonkey 2.40? Went to
update/install on a system and ran into "Not available for SeaMOnkey
2.40" see:


What's up with that?

Does every new SeaMonkey 2.40 user now need to go to:

and load 4.5b1 (Beta) directly now?


https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/downloads/file/383795/lightning-4.5b1-sm+tb-mac.xpi

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/lightning/versions/beta

you need to manually go to the beta versions on AMO, I think.
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Lightning Add-on no longer available for SeaMonkey?

2016-07-11 Thread NoOp
Is Lightning no longer available for SeaMonkey 2.40? Went to
update/install on a system and ran into "Not available for SeaMOnkey
2.40" see:


What's up with that?

Does every new SeaMonkey 2.40 user now need to go to:

and load 4.5b1 (Beta) directly now?

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Lightning Add-on no longer available for SeaMonkey?

2016-07-11 Thread NoOp
Is Lightning no longer available for SeaMonkey 2.40? Went to
update/install on a system and ran into "Not available for SeaMOnkey
2.40" see:


What's up with that?

Does every new SeaMonkey 2.40 user now need to go to:

and load 4.5b1 (Beta) directly now?
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Re: Chase bank site is excluding Seamonkey

2016-07-11 Thread WaltS48

On 07/11/2016 04:36 PM, Philip wrote:


So today, after using seamonkey for a years with Chase bank site I get:

https://www.chase.com/services/browser-upgrade

My choices are:


Internet Explorer > (download the latest version.) (Opens Overlay)

Firefox > (download the latest version) (Opens Overlay)

Chrome > (download the lastest version) (Opens Overlay)

Safari >


I'll complain to, but what a bother



Your not the first to have a problem 



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Chase bank site is excluding Seamonkey

2016-07-11 Thread Philip


So today, after using seamonkey for a years with Chase bank site I get:

https://www.chase.com/services/browser-upgrade

My choices are:


Internet Explorer > (download the latest version.) (Opens Overlay)

Firefox > (download the latest version) (Opens Overlay)

Chrome > (download the lastest version) (Opens Overlay)

Safari >


I'll complain to, but what a bother
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Re: Flash Videos from AOL News

2016-07-11 Thread Big Jim

On 7/11/2016 12:51 PM, EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/10/2016 07:00 PM, Big Jim wrote:

As of the last week or so, flash videos from news links on the AOL
home page automatically play even though the "Ask to activate" option
is enabled in SeaMonkey.  What is causing this?  Does anyone else see
this?
Thank you.


It looks like they test to see if you have Flash activated, and if the
user doesn't, then they feed HTML5 video.

When I tested in SeaMonkey with Flash set to "Ask to Activate", I saw
three requests in the video to "Activate Flash", then the video started.

I usually just click the pause button, and read the text.


It would be nice if people who run websites were more considerate.  If
people have stopped videos from playing automatically, maybe it is
because they want it that way.  I still keep Flashblock because it is
the one thing that can prevent HTML5 from starting automatically when a
sysop has decided to override visitors' browser preference settings.

Flashblock will not install in SeaMonkey, but I did find one solution. 
I disabled autoplay in config and now I have to right click on a video 
and pick "Play" for it to run.

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Re: Flash Videos from AOL News

2016-07-11 Thread WaltS48

On 07/11/2016 02:39 PM, Big Jim wrote:

On 7/11/2016 11:58 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/10/2016 09:52 PM, Big Jim wrote:

On 7/10/2016 7:42 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/10/2016 07:00 PM, Big Jim wrote:

As of the last week or so, flash videos from news links on the AOL
home page automatically play even though the "Ask to activate" option
is enabled in SeaMonkey.  What is causing this?  Does anyone else see
this?
Thank you.


It looks like they test to see if you have Flash activated, and if the
user doesn't, then they feed HTML5 video.

When I tested in SeaMonkey with Flash set to "Ask to Activate", I saw
three requests in the video to "Activate Flash", then the video 
started.


I usually just click the pause button, and read the text.


The problem is that I usually select quite a few articles that I want
to read and then go through them, rather than choose one at at time.
The home page cycles through them rather than stopping at each choice.



That can be a problem. SeaMonkey doesn't have the Mute Tab feature that
Firefox has, and clicking every tab to mute it could get tedious.

I think there is a way to disable the auto-start feature of HTML5 video,
but I don't recall what that is at this time.

I don't really understand your reference to the "home page cycles
through them". I have to click each one to open it that window or a new
tab.

Have you tried safe mode? Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled.


What I meant by that is that, when you leave the home page, the top 
stories cycle from one to another so that you can't come back to the 
same place that you left without cycling back through pages.



Have you tried clicking the AOL block with the date displayed in it? 
It's in the upper left corner of most pages.


I have also seen a ⬅ Back to AOL link in other sites I've visited from 
the AOL home page.


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Re: Flash Videos from AOL News

2016-07-11 Thread Big Jim

On 7/11/2016 11:58 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/10/2016 09:52 PM, Big Jim wrote:

On 7/10/2016 7:42 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/10/2016 07:00 PM, Big Jim wrote:

As of the last week or so, flash videos from news links on the AOL
home page automatically play even though the "Ask to activate" option
is enabled in SeaMonkey.  What is causing this?  Does anyone else see
this?
Thank you.


It looks like they test to see if you have Flash activated, and if the
user doesn't, then they feed HTML5 video.

When I tested in SeaMonkey with Flash set to "Ask to Activate", I saw
three requests in the video to "Activate Flash", then the video started.

I usually just click the pause button, and read the text.


The problem is that I usually select quite a few articles that I want
to read and then go through them, rather than choose one at at time.
The home page cycles through them rather than stopping at each choice.



That can be a problem. SeaMonkey doesn't have the Mute Tab feature that
Firefox has, and clicking every tab to mute it could get tedious.

I think there is a way to disable the auto-start feature of HTML5 video,
but I don't recall what that is at this time.

I don't really understand your reference to the "home page cycles
through them". I have to click each one to open it that window or a new
tab.

Have you tried safe mode? Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled.


What I meant by that is that, when you leave the home page, the top 
stories cycle from one to another so that you can't come back to the 
same place that you left without cycling back through pages.

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Re: Flash Videos from AOL News

2016-07-11 Thread Ed Mullen

On 7/11/2016 at 11:58 AM, WaltS48's prodigious digits fired off:

On 07/10/2016 09:52 PM, Big Jim wrote:

On 7/10/2016 7:42 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/10/2016 07:00 PM, Big Jim wrote:

As of the last week or so, flash videos from news links on the AOL
home page automatically play even though the "Ask to activate" option
is enabled in SeaMonkey.  What is causing this?  Does anyone else see
this?
Thank you.


It looks like they test to see if you have Flash activated, and if the
user doesn't, then they feed HTML5 video.

When I tested in SeaMonkey with Flash set to "Ask to Activate", I saw
three requests in the video to "Activate Flash", then the video started.

I usually just click the pause button, and read the text.


The problem is that I usually select quite a few articles that I want
to read and then go through them, rather than choose one at at time.
The home page cycles through them rather than stopping at each choice.



That can be a problem. SeaMonkey doesn't have the Mute Tab feature that
Firefox has, and clicking every tab to mute it could get tedious.

I think there is a way to disable the auto-start feature of HTML5 video,
but I don't recall what that is at this time.

I don't really understand your reference to the "home page cycles
through them". I have to click each one to open it that window or a new
tab.

Have you tried safe mode? Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled.




I have a mute button on the Quick Launch toobar. One click and it mutes 
Windows audio.




Scroll down about 3/4 of the page.

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Re: Flash Videos from AOL News

2016-07-11 Thread EE

WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/10/2016 07:00 PM, Big Jim wrote:

As of the last week or so, flash videos from news links on the AOL
home page automatically play even though the "Ask to activate" option
is enabled in SeaMonkey.  What is causing this?  Does anyone else see
this?
Thank you.


It looks like they test to see if you have Flash activated, and if the
user doesn't, then they feed HTML5 video.

When I tested in SeaMonkey with Flash set to "Ask to Activate", I saw
three requests in the video to "Activate Flash", then the video started.

I usually just click the pause button, and read the text.

It would be nice if people who run websites were more considerate.  If 
people have stopped videos from playing automatically, maybe it is 
because they want it that way.  I still keep Flashblock because it is 
the one thing that can prevent HTML5 from starting automatically when a 
sysop has decided to override visitors' browser preference settings.


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Re: Flash Videos from AOL News

2016-07-11 Thread WaltS48

On 07/10/2016 09:52 PM, Big Jim wrote:

On 7/10/2016 7:42 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/10/2016 07:00 PM, Big Jim wrote:

As of the last week or so, flash videos from news links on the AOL
home page automatically play even though the "Ask to activate" option
is enabled in SeaMonkey.  What is causing this?  Does anyone else see
this?
Thank you.


It looks like they test to see if you have Flash activated, and if the
user doesn't, then they feed HTML5 video.

When I tested in SeaMonkey with Flash set to "Ask to Activate", I saw
three requests in the video to "Activate Flash", then the video started.

I usually just click the pause button, and read the text.

The problem is that I usually select quite a few articles that I want 
to read and then go through them, rather than choose one at at time.  
The home page cycles through them rather than stopping at each choice.



That can be a problem. SeaMonkey doesn't have the Mute Tab feature that 
Firefox has, and clicking every tab to mute it could get tedious.


I think there is a way to disable the auto-start feature of HTML5 video, 
but I don't recall what that is at this time.


I don't really understand your reference to the "home page cycles 
through them". I have to click each one to open it that window or a new tab.


Have you tried safe mode? Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled.


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