Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Richmond
Richmond wrote:
> 
> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/
> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/
> 
> But there is a tinderbox build, which sounds like fun. :)
> 
> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux/1494033293/
> 

OK I was looking in the wrong place. I should probably read the project
news page from time to time. :(

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread S Slicer

Richmond wrote:

S Slicer wrote:

Francesco wrote:

Thanks.
I'll keep 2.50 since i can live with this bug After all it's the only one 
i've found so far. Except for that, 64 bit 2.50 works really fine.

Francesco


Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 18:56:16 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:

Looks like the x64 problem is a bit older :)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393302
I wouldn't expect a solution soon.

FRG

Francesco wrote:

I can't find a 32 bit 2.50 release on akalla site, but maybe i'm missing 
something.

Thanks
Francesco

Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 14:30:20 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:

Interesting. Seems to be a problem with the x64 version only. First problem I
ever encountered with the x64. Please uninstall and try the x86 version. I
will need to look at the installer and see if something is wrong there.
FRG

Francesco wrote:

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/


Hello,
i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to mail 
recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click "send to mail 
recipient" command does nothing.
Any suggestion on how to fix it?
About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after a few 
seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.

Thanks and best regards
Francesco


Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46 Official
Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release (although you User
Agent suggests you posted via Google) that you suggest you are using.

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
screen! ;-(


ahahah... sorry, i just noticed that my post was not completely clear...
When i try to send a file through Windows explorer by using mouse right click and then 
selecting "send to mail recipient", nothing happens.


Ah!! O.K., well then your system seems to not know what is your default
e-mail program. As you're using Windows, I would have expected
Outlook/Express or Live Mail to have been your default system e-mail
client if nothing else was selected.


Or better, Seamonkey opens, if previously closed, but no mail compose window 
appear.
I also tried by creating a new sendto shortcut to Seamonkey with /compose 
command but in this case the compose window opens, but with no attachment.
With 2.46 and 2.48b1 i had no problem.

Thanks!


Could it be that, whilst you had SM 2.46 or 2.48b1 installed, your
system knew they were your default, so tried to start them, but now that
you have removed them, your system just doesn't know what to start up
properly??

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Daniel,
Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It starts 
on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file attached).

Francesco






The last 64- bit version that worked for me was 2.45!

I even uninstalled all add-ons, and v2.50, like the others after v2.45,
crashed every time I tried to compose an e-mail or reply to an e-mail. I
have no idea why.


Is it this one?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1308923


Looks likely!

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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Lemuel Johnson

On 5/7/2017 3:01 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Are you unable to change the currency?

FRG

No, it stays in Euros. If I click on the Paypal logo shown on the website
account using my US Paypal credentials, it will recognize me and accept a
donation but only in euros. It then converts it from euros to dollars. However,
I cannot enter dollars directly. Too bad they can't fix that.


And, if you select to contribute through PayPal with a credit card for 
the "international purchase" you receive the stern warning:
/"//If you use a credit card to pay for your international purchase, 
your card issuer might charge you a fee (typically up to 3% of your 
purchase amount). That's about $3.41 USD for this purchase. Use your 
bank account and you won't have to pay this fee."/


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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> Are you unable to change the currency?
> 
> FRG

No, it stays in Euros. If I click on the Paypal logo shown on the website
account using my US Paypal credentials, it will recognize me and accept a
donation but only in euros. It then converts it from euros to dollars. However,
I cannot enter dollars directly. Too bad they can't fix that.

> 
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>> It should. What is the error message?
>>
>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/
>>
>> is for Europe and Euros. Where is the one for the US and dollars?
>>
>>>
>>> FRG
>>>
>>> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost 
> the
> recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges for 
> the
> transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.
>
> FRG

 I/'m in the US and there appears to be no way to make a donation to
 Seamonkey by
 any means including Paypal, Credit card, etc. Why doesn't Seamonkey accept
 donations from the US?
>>
> 

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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Are you unable to change the currency?

FRG


Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

It should. What is the error message?


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/

is for Europe and Euros. Where is the one for the US and dollars?



FRG

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost the
recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges for the
transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.

FRG


I/'m in the US and there appears to be no way to make a donation to Seamonkey by
any means including Paypal, Credit card, etc. Why doesn't Seamonkey accept
donations from the US?




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Kitchen Sink

2017-05-07 Thread Ed Mullen
I'm bummed out. 
 
is no longer active.


Wait!  They moved it to:



And also (in case you have no idea what this is)



All is well.

:-D

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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> It should. What is the error message?

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/

is for Europe and Euros. Where is the one for the US and dollars?

> 
> FRG
> 
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>> If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost the
>>> recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges for the
>>> transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>
>> I/'m in the US and there appears to be no way to make a donation to 
>> Seamonkey by
>> any means including Paypal, Credit card, etc. Why doesn't Seamonkey accept
>> donations from the US?

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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Thanks.

FRG

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 7 May 2017 15:04:54 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost the 
recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges for the 
transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.


Thanks.  Just tried a SEPA transfer in EUR.  I guess it will be processed on 
Tuesday as tomorrow is a banking holiday here in Bulgaria.




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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

It should. What is the error message?

FRG

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost the
recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges for the
transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.

FRG


I/'m in the US and there appears to be no way to make a donation to Seamonkey by
any means including Paypal, Credit card, etc. Why doesn't Seamonkey accept
donations from the US?

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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost the
> recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges for the
> transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.
> 
> FRG

I/'m in the US and there appears to be no way to make a donation to Seamonkey by
any means including Paypal, Credit card, etc. Why doesn't Seamonkey accept
donations from the US?

> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>> Tue, 2 May 2017 15:24:03 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:
>>
>>> What we need:
>>>
>>> Setting up our own infrastructure, potentially in conjunction with
>>> Thunderbird, will cost. If you feel you can contribute towards
>>> future releases in this way, please consider donating:
>>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/
>>
>> I don't have PayPal account at the moment, and I don't really want to open 
>> one
>> currently, so I'm considering the Bankwire transfer option.  What currency I
>> should make the transfer in – EUR, USD, or?
>>
> 

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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Sun, 7 May 2017 15:04:54 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost 
the recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges 
for the transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.


Thanks.  Just tried a SEPA transfer in EUR.  I guess it will be 
processed on Tuesday as tomorrow is a banking holiday here in Bulgaria.


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread WaltS48

On 5/7/17 5:18 AM, Daniel wrote:
The latest Official release in SM 2.46 and there will, shortly 
hopefully, be a SM 2.48 Beta release which will then become a SM 2.48 
Release Version and then the SM 2.49 (Beta) will be the start of the 
ESR versions. 


SeaMonkey 2.48b1 was released on April 17, 2017.



I installed it on Windows and Linux yesterday.

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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost the 
recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges for the 
transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.


FRG

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 2 May 2017 15:24:03 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:


What we need:

Setting up our own infrastructure, potentially in conjunction with
Thunderbird, will cost. If you feel you can contribute towards
future releases in this way, please consider donating:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/


I don't have PayPal account at the moment, and I don't really want to open one 
currently, so I'm considering the Bankwire transfer option.  What currency I 
should make the transfer in – EUR, USD, or?




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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-07 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Tue, 2 May 2017 15:24:03 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:


What we need:

Setting up our own infrastructure, potentially in conjunction with
Thunderbird, will cost. If you feel you can contribute towards
future releases in this way, please consider donating:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/


I don't have PayPal account at the moment, and I don't really want 
to open one currently, so I'm considering the Bankwire transfer 
option.  What currency I should make the transfer in – EUR, USD, or?


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Richmond
Daniel wrote:
> On 7/05/2017 6:16 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> No I said. The logical step from aurora would switch to beta. Beta is
>> 2.51 at the moment. 2.50 is the current release.
> 
> It should be stressed that these are Adrian's private releases ..i.e. 
> Adrian has a SM 2.50 release version and a SM 2.51 Beta version, maybe.
> 
> The latest Official release in SM 2.46 and there will, shortly 
> hopefully, be a SM 2.48 Beta release which will then become a SM 2.48 
> Release Version and then the SM 2.49 (Beta) will be the start of the ESR 
> versions.
> 
> At least, as I understand things!!

That might explain why I can't find a 2.50, or 2.51 beta in here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/

But there is a tinderbox build, which sounds like fun. :)

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux/1494033293/

> 
>> If you compile yourself clone comm-esr52 and apply the patch for bug
>> 1353765:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353765
>> This gives you 2.49.1 which has all security patches from 2.50 Fx 53.
>> The 2.49 esr line will be the basis for the the next stable releases as
>> stated. 2.50+ still have some problems which are fixed but not as fast
>> as usual and you might end up with a broken build in the future. 2.54
>> based on gecko 57 might become a tough cookie depending on how fast
>> classic extension and theme support is to be removed.
>>
>> 2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable but if you see an
>> indexDB error in the error console blow away the storage folder,
>> storage.* and webappsstore* from you profile.
>>
>> There are changes in favicon handling in 2.52 and such a profile might
>> not be 100% compatible with an older version.
>>
>> FRG
> 

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Daniel

On 7/05/2017 6:16 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

No I said. The logical step from aurora would switch to beta. Beta is
2.51 at the moment. 2.50 is the current release.


It should be stressed that these are Adrian's private releases ..i.e. 
Adrian has a SM 2.50 release version and a SM 2.51 Beta version, maybe.


The latest Official release in SM 2.46 and there will, shortly 
hopefully, be a SM 2.48 Beta release which will then become a SM 2.48 
Release Version and then the SM 2.49 (Beta) will be the start of the ESR 
versions.


At least, as I understand things!!


If you compile yourself clone comm-esr52 and apply the patch for bug
1353765:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353765
This gives you 2.49.1 which has all security patches from 2.50 Fx 53.
The 2.49 esr line will be the basis for the the next stable releases as
stated. 2.50+ still have some problems which are fixed but not as fast
as usual and you might end up with a broken build in the future. 2.54
based on gecko 57 might become a tough cookie depending on how fast
classic extension and theme support is to be removed.

2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable but if you see an
indexDB error in the error console blow away the storage folder,
storage.* and webappsstore* from you profile.

There are changes in favicon handling in 2.52 and such a profile might
not be 100% compatible with an older version.

FRG


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
No I said. The logical step from aurora would switch to beta. Beta is 2.51 at 
the moment. 2.50 is the current release.

If you compile yourself clone comm-esr52 and apply the patch for bug 1353765:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353765
This gives you 2.49.1 which has all security patches from 2.50 Fx 53. The 2.49 
esr line will be the basis for the the next stable releases as stated. 2.50+ 
still have some problems which are fixed but not as fast as usual and you 
might end up with a broken build in the future. 2.54 based on gecko 57 might 
become a tough cookie depending on how fast classic extension and theme 
support is to be removed.


2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable but if you see an indexDB 
error in the error console blow away the storage folder, storage.* and 
webappsstore* from you profile.


There are changes in favicon handling in 2.52 and such a profile might not be 
100% compatible with an older version.


FRG

Richmond wrote:

Excuse me for still being confused. :)

I know you said to move to Adrian's beta, but where does he get the
source? I checked out comm-beta and compiled it, and it says 2.51. But I
see also there is a 2.48b1.

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48b1/

So what have I ended up with? I don't particularly want to go back from
2.51, but maybe if none of the structures in the profile changed it
wouldn't matter.

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

No, only the aurora a2 channel has been discontinued by Mozilla. Looking at
recent code quality and other issues a mistake imho but telling the world how
stable the current release process became made a good press release and that
is all what seems to count :)

The logical step is to switch to beta.

FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 28/04/2017 5:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The next releases after 2.48 will be from the ESR branch (2.49.x) for
some time. They will contain only bug and security fixes. The next
planned release after 2.49.x is 2.56 ESR. Depending on the fallout after
Firefox 57 it might never come to this but we will see. The a2 aurora
versions have been discontinued. Please switch to 2.52a1 or Adrians
release/beta versions. I can not tell you when the next beta will
arrive. Getting 2.48 and 2.49.1 out have absolute priority.


I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(


It is in the mail component and not a bad one.

FRG


I thought the 'A' releases were being discontinued totally, not just the 'A2'
releases!

So the switch should be to the 'B' releases, shouldn't it??







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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

> 2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable
Same for 2.51

FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
No I said. The logical step from aurora would switch to beta. Beta is 2.51 at 
the moment. 2.50 is the current release.

If you compile yourself clone comm-esr52 and apply the patch for bug 1353765:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353765
This gives you 2.49.1 which has all security patches from 2.50 Fx 53. The 2.49 
esr line will be the basis for the the next stable releases as stated. 2.50+ 
still have some problems which are fixed but not as fast as usual and you 
might end up with a broken build in the future. 2.54 based on gecko 57 might 
become a tough cookie depending on how fast classic extension and theme 
support is to be removed.


2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable but if you see an indexDB 
error in the error console blow away the storage folder, storage.* and 
webappsstore* from you profile.


There are changes in favicon handling in 2.52 and such a profile might not be 
100% compatible with an older version.


FRG

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Richmond
Excuse me for still being confused. :)

I know you said to move to Adrian's beta, but where does he get the
source? I checked out comm-beta and compiled it, and it says 2.51. But I
see also there is a 2.48b1.

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48b1/

So what have I ended up with? I don't particularly want to go back from
2.51, but maybe if none of the structures in the profile changed it
wouldn't matter.

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> No, only the aurora a2 channel has been discontinued by Mozilla. Looking at 
> recent code quality and other issues a mistake imho but telling the world how 
> stable the current release process became made a good press release and that 
> is all what seems to count :)
> 
> The logical step is to switch to beta.
> 
> FRG
> 
> Daniel wrote:
>> On 28/04/2017 5:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>> The next releases after 2.48 will be from the ESR branch (2.49.x) for
>>> some time. They will contain only bug and security fixes. The next
>>> planned release after 2.49.x is 2.56 ESR. Depending on the fallout after
>>> Firefox 57 it might never come to this but we will see. The a2 aurora
>>> versions have been discontinued. Please switch to 2.52a1 or Adrians
>>> release/beta versions. I can not tell you when the next beta will
>>> arrive. Getting 2.48 and 2.49.1 out have absolute priority.
>>>
 I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
 don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(
>>>
>>> It is in the mail component and not a bad one.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>
>> I thought the 'A' releases were being discontinued totally, not just the 
>> 'A2' 
>> releases!
>>
>> So the switch should be to the 'B' releases, shouldn't it??
>>
> 

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