Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-04 Thread David E. Ross 
On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way. 
> I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in 
>  >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.
> 
> The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
> The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.
> 
> I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough 
> to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> 

My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
/*  Indent folders */
@-moz-document
url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to bookmarks.html
every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref statement
is mandatory.)

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread rjkrjk 

I also left feedback on the site.dont expect much

Ant wrote on 9/5/18 12:31 AM:

On 9/4/2018 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


I reported this in 
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/7ED-qV__XCc;context-place=forum/websearch. 
I don't know if that will work. Is there an official way to do it? Does anyone have official 
connections to their web site search team? ;)


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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-04 Thread Lee 
On 9/4/18, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> On 09/04/2018 02:11 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 09/04/2018 01:34 PM, Lee wrote:
>>> On 9/4/18, Richard Owlett  wrote:
 I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
 I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
   >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

 The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
 The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.
>>>
>>> https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_list.asp
>>>
 I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
 to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

 Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Javascript + CSS to hide/display folder contents
>>>https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_display_visibility.asp
>>>
>>> Allows you to do something like
>>>
>>> + folder 1
>>> + folder 2
>>> + folder 3
>>>
>>> where clicking on a plus sign shows whatever is in that folder
>>> (and turns the plus to a minus so you can hide the folder contents again)
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>
>> It looks like my phrasing led you astray.
>> When saying "folder" I was referring to what you see when selecting
>> "Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks".
>>
>> It might have been cleared if I had said "I have a nested unordered list
>> which I wish to resemble a directory tree."
>>
>> A .. sequence is almost right.
>> I hate bullets. I need smaller indentations. I suspect CSS is the tool.
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>
> ul{
> list-style-type: none;
> padding: 0;
> margin-left: 5;
> }
>
> Gets me almost there, but I can't distinguish between "padding" and
> "margin".

I think if you don't have a border there's no difference.
  https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#box-padding-area

w3schools is good for basic examples & explanations but they don't go very deep
w3.org sometimes assumes too much background knowledge
I haven't found the happy middle yet :(

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Re: i just sent ed mullen this newsletter

2018-09-04 Thread GerardJan 

GerardJan wrote:

¡ i hope he will be happy with that !

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L6sGd0R6FI

sincerely,


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i ask your prayers for it

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

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i just sent ed mullen this newsletter

2018-09-04 Thread GerardJan 

¡ i hope he will be happy with that !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L6sGd0R6FI

sincerely,
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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

2018-09-04 Thread Lee 
On 9/5/18, Ant via support-seamonkey
 wrote:
> On 9/2/2018 7:16 PM, boxfre...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 2:02:01 AM UTC-6, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>> I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
>>> announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. The
>>> announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , but
>>> when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new
>>> Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try
>>> it in Chrome.
>>>
>>> Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?
>>
>> Because Google has become just about as greedy and draconian as Apple
>> now.
>
> And many other companies like Microsoft! :(

What's the use of having the largest market-share if you don't take
advantage of it?

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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/2/2018 7:16 PM, boxfre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 2:02:01 AM UTC-6, Dirk Munk wrote:

I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. The
announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , but
when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new
Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try
it in Chrome.

Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?


Because Google has become just about as greedy and draconian as Apple now.


And many other companies like Microsoft! :(
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/4/2018 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


I reported this in 
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/7ED-qV__XCc;context-place=forum/websearch. 
I don't know if that will work. Is there an official way to do it? Does 
anyone have official connections to their web site search team? ;)

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

Me too! We need to tell Google about this issue.

On 9/3/2018 6:58 AM, Mike C wrote:

And here I thought I was the only one.
I thought it was my machine or something I did.


no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
computer I tried it on.


Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. 
I haven't seen this on any other website.


Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
Any ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
computer I tried it on.


Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen this on any other website.


Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!


Same here. :(
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Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

2018-09-04 Thread Jonathan Wilson 
I am not 100% sure but I suspect the issue has to do with the fact that the 
Widevine CDM will only load if the binaries that are loading it haven't 
been tampered with (since a binary that isn't recognized as "authorized" 
could have been modified to steal whatever content the Widevine CDM is 
being used to protect). My guess is that SeaMonkey doesn't include the code 
to download and use the Widevine CDM because the way the infrastructure 
currently works means that whatever deal allows appropriately signed 
Firefox bits to be trusted by the Widevine CDM doesn't allow SeaMonkey bits 
to be signed and trusted the same way.

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-04 Thread Richard Owlett 

On 09/04/2018 02:11 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/04/2018 01:34 PM, Lee wrote:

On 9/4/18, Richard Owlett  wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
  >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.


https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_list.asp


I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?


Javascript + CSS to hide/display folder contents
   https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_display_visibility.asp

Allows you to do something like

+ folder 1
+ folder 2
+ folder 3

where clicking on a plus sign shows whatever is in that folder
(and turns the plus to a minus so you can hide the folder contents again)

Lee



It looks like my phrasing led you astray.
When saying "folder" I was referring to what you see when selecting 
"Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks".


It might have been cleared if I had said "I have a nested unordered list 
which I wish to resemble a directory tree."


A .. sequence is almost right.
I hate bullets. I need smaller indentations. I suspect CSS is the tool.
Thank you.




ul{
list-style-type: none;
padding: 0;
margin-left: 5;
}

Gets me almost there, but I can't distinguish between "padding" and 
"margin".



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Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

2018-09-04 Thread Chris Ilias 

On 2018-09-03 10:32 a.m., Andy K wrote:


I cant get netflix to play movies on my computer.

I get error code F7352.

I think I need this, but can't find it.

Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin


SeaMonkey is not included in the supported browsers for HTML5 at 
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742


My guess is that you don't have the Silverlight plugin installed.

Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin comes pre-installed in 
Firefox, and is used to decrypt content controlled with Digital Rights 
Management (DRM).

More info: 
It is not included with SeaMonkey.

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-04 Thread Richard Owlett 

On 09/04/2018 01:34 PM, Lee wrote:

On 9/4/18, Richard Owlett  wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
  >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.


https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_list.asp


I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?


Javascript + CSS to hide/display folder contents
   https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_display_visibility.asp

Allows you to do something like

+ folder 1
+ folder 2
+ folder 3

where clicking on a plus sign shows whatever is in that folder
(and turns the plus to a minus so you can hide the folder contents again)

Lee



It looks like my phrasing led you astray.
When saying "folder" I was referring to what you see when selecting 
"Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks".


It might have been cleared if I had said "I have a nested unordered list 
which I wish to resemble a directory tree."


A .. sequence is almost right.
I hate bullets. I need smaller indentations. I suspect CSS is the tool.
Thank you.


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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-04 Thread Lee 
On 9/4/18, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
> I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
>  >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.
>
> The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
> The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_list.asp

> I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
> to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.
>
> Suggestions?

Javascript + CSS to hide/display folder contents
  https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_display_visibility.asp

Allows you to do something like

+ folder 1
+ folder 2
+ folder 3

where clicking on a plus sign shows whatever is in that folder
(and turns the plus to a minus so you can hide the folder contents again)

Lee
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CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-04 Thread Richard Owlett 
I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way. 
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in 
>500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.


The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough 
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.


Suggestions?


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Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

2018-09-04 Thread Jonathan N. Little 
GerardJan wrote:
> /do not hassle with netflix/ go to the movies

Not a very helpful solution. 'Go to the movies' may not be the lest
hassle way, for instance for me going to the movies is nearly a 100 mile
trip.

To OP, looks like the issue is SeaMonkey does not support Encrypted
Media Extensions and therefore cannot load the Widevine Content
Decryption Module. Firefox Quantum does support Encrypted Media
Extensions so I think that is your most feasible option.

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Re: Adblock Plus for SM?

2018-09-04 Thread NFN Smith 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Thunderbird 60 and SeaMonkey 2.57 are/will not be based on 52 code but 
on Firefox 60 ESR code.


Web extensions were never developed with a program like Thunderbird in 
mind. TB now adds web extensions apis and support but I doubt they will 
be able to make any of the current ad or script blockers work in the 
near time.



Thanks for the clarification.  I had assumed that TB support for the old 
extensions indicated that it was based on 52.x.




If not for developer shortage this would be actually easier for 
SeaMonkey which already has a browser in place. But the whole Firefox 
implementation is a mess with parts in the browser frontend and parts in 
the Gecko backend.


And for quantum architectural changes. Most was already in 56 and 
starting with 57 it was just lets rip this and this and that and this out.


I noticed that when I was running 56 as well as 57 in beta, where 
extensions for both APIs were fully functional in 56.




It needs to be supported but besides from a few key extensions like 
uBlock and NoScript you won't miss much with web extensions. Most are a 
joke compared to their former xul based ones.


For the most part, I've found FF and TB functional equivalents for the 
extensions I run in SM, but I definitely prefer the older extensions.


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Re: How to disable the cache for just one site ?

2018-09-04 Thread NFN Smith 

David E. Ross wrote:

I have disabled caching entirely.  Too many Web sites are generated or
modified "on the fly", through PHP, server-side includes, or scripts.
That means many cached Web pages are not current.  With a good broadband
connection, I do not notice much delay except when I encounter a Web
server with problems.


That's my take, as well. I haven't disabled my cache, but I run it 
considerably smaller than the default size, at 10 MB.


Although there's some use for cache, and cached content will load 
faster, but not dramatically, or even perceptibly, unless (as noted in 
another post in this thread, if you place your cache in a RAM disk).


But the cache was far more important in the days of dial-up connections, 
and with broadband, the need for cache is far less.


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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

2018-09-04 Thread NFN Smith 

David E. Ross wrote:

Long ago, I realized that I wanted to see my bookmarks more often than
any Web page.  I set the preference variable
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to True.  Actually, I have
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment, to
remind me why I did this.)  Every time I terminate SeaMonkey, my
bookmarks are automatically exported to the file bookmarks.html in my
profile.


I do that, too. From there for other profiles that I'm using, as well as 
other browsers, I set the exported bookmarks.html to be the home page. 
With that, no matter which profile or which browser I'm using, I always 
have an up to date list of all my bookmarks available.


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Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

2018-09-04 Thread GerardJan 

Andy K wrote:

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 9:40:06 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Andy K wrote:

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 6:43:32 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Andy K wrote:

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:21:22 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Andy K wrote:


I cant get netflix to play movies on my computer.

I get error code F7352.

I think I need this, but can't find it.

Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin



I just added user.js preference

user_pref("general.useragent.override.netflix.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0");

Works just fine...lousy useragent sniffing.





It didn't help.



Well I don't have any "Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin' in my
plugin list




Interesting. I can play netflix movies on Firefox.

/do not hassle with netflix/ go to the movies


Strange since Seamonkey is built on the same platform as Firefox.


It won't play if Seamonkey is in the useragent string.


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Seamonkey is not in string

My general.user.agent.override is

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/58.0




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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Build identifier: 20180711183816
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Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

2018-09-04 Thread Jonathan N. Little 
Andy K wrote:
> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 9:40:06 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Andy K wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 6:43:32 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 Andy K wrote:
> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:21:22 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little 
> wrote:
>> Andy K wrote:
>>>
>>> I cant get netflix to play movies on my computer.
>>>
>>> I get error code F7352.
>>>
>>> I think I need this, but can't find it.
>>>
>>> Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin
>>>
>>
>> I just added user.js preference
>>
>> user_pref("general.useragent.override.netflix.com", "Mozilla/5.0
>> (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0");
>>
>> Works just fine...lousy useragent sniffing.
>>

>
> It didn't help.
>

 Well I don't have any "Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin' in my
 plugin list
>>
>>>
>>> Interesting. I can play netflix movies on Firefox.
>>>
>>> Strange since Seamonkey is built on the same platform as Firefox.
>>
>> It won't play if Seamonkey is in the useragent string.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Take care,
>>
>> Jonathan
>> ---
>> LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
>> http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
> 
> Seamonkey is not in string
> 
> My general.user.agent.override is 
> 
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/58.0
> 

First of all the latest SeaMonkey UA string is:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

I have the 32-bit version but the important thing here is the latest
SeaMonkey is based on the ESR version of Firefox not the Quantum version
so your modified UA should have been:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

That said, although SeaMonkey supports HTML5 I think the issue is
Silverlight. In Windows it works if you have Silverlight installed. I
confirmed this; if I disable Silverlight plugin Netflix no longer works
in Windows with SeaMonkey using the modified UA. Only works when
Silverlight is enabled AND I remove the "SeaMonkey" part of the UA.

Netflix will not work on my Ubuntu laptop with SeaMonkey. Now in the
past I had installed Silverlight back with the Pipelight hack that uses
Wine to load the Silverlight plugin. It worked but was a bit of a kludge.

Now Netflix works no problem on Linux with Firefox. So to be honest I
would just use Firefox when using Netflix.

Just tested and Chrome also works. That's Chrome, not Chromium. I don't
know if Chromium works. I have Chrome because Chromium did not work to
cast to my Chromecast whereas the Google Chrome version did on Linux.

HTH

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Re: Adblock Plus for SM?

2018-09-04 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

Try this one:
https://chromium.woolyss.com/

Mozilla is finished for me.

FRG

Lee wrote:

On 9/3/18, Hawker  wrote:

On 9/2/2018 11:51 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
  >Do what you must but I would switch probably to Chromium then.

Part of why I am still on Mozilla products is I don't trust
Google/Chromium to not be harvesting my online activity to use to create
a profile of me and sell that information. While I realize it is a
mostly futile effort these days I do try to protect my privacy as best
as realistic. Google doesn't seem safe.

I am told there is a built without all the google data mining and
privacy invasion stuff but after an hour of searching I couldn't find a
Windows executable version.  Any ideas where to get working builds
without the google privacy invasion components?


My question is if it's possible to get a chromium browser without any
of the google data mining.  I look at stuff like this
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
   A number of features or background services communicate with Google
servers despite the absence of an associated Google account or
compiled-in Google API keys. Furthermore, the normal build process for
Chromium involves running Google's own high-level commands that invoke
many scripts and utilities, some of which download and use pre-built
binaries provided by Google.

and wonder about all the chromium based alternative browsers.


Why in the world Mozilla doesn't just make a "all of our data
collection will be opt-in" statement and yank the rug out from under
chrome is beyond me.  As it is, I'm wondering how much longer Firefox
will be ... not be relevant since they're not hardly now but.. what?
Above 5% in browser market share maybe?


Lee









uBlock is really the better product nowadays.

  > (which I only use for the increasing number of websites that won't
work in SM)

I don't see many breakages which are real. Most can be fixed with
setting the user agent. With most web sites still supporting IE 8 only a
few really break. Most are google ones and they do it in for Fx too.

  > I wonder how soon we will realistically see a Seamonky build with the
Firefox 60 ESR or newer code.  I really don't want to move away from SM,
but the lack

Maybe 6 months to a year. Firefox has problems of its own and becomes a
permanent construction camp so anything after 2.57 is off for now. Do
what you must but I would switch probably to Chromium then. The Fx ui
degrades with every release now so you can just use the original which
imho already looks cleaner than Fx.

Locally compiled 2.53 and 2.49.5 both work a champ for me so I don't
have any need to switch now. Newer web features will probably become a
problem in a year or two but seriously I don't want things like service
workers and wasm anyway. I really doubt this will do security any good.

FRG

Hawker wrote:

Thank you both for the clear explanation.

Sounds like I'm stuck where I am.  A few of my ABP filters are now
saying "this filter subscriptions requires a newer ABP version"
This is going to be a security risk soon I assume as I fund ABP does a
better job keeping add based virus out than my AV products.

Alas your comment "Most are a joke compared to their former xul based
ones." Is sadly true. Some of the extensions I see in my Firefox
install (which I only use for the increasing number of websites that
won't work in SM) have way more limited UIs than the XUL version. I'm
hoping with time they can reach the functionality of the old versions.
Is there something about how they work that means they never will?
And a few of my favorite extensions have not been ported.

I wonder how soon we will realistically see a Seamonky build with the
Firefox 60 ESR or newer code.  I really don't want to move away from
SM, but the lack of developers to keep the code current is putting the
handwriting clearly on the wall for SM's demise.


On 8/30/2018 12:43 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Thunderbird 60 and SeaMonkey 2.57 are/will not be based on 52 code
but on Firefox 60 ESR code.

Web extensions were never developed with a program like Thunderbird
in mind. TB now adds web extensions apis and support but I doubt they
will be able to make any of the current ad or script blockers work in
the near time.

If not for developer shortage this would be actually easier for
SeaMonkey which already has a browser in place. But the whole Firefox
implementation is a mess with parts in the browser frontend and parts
in the Gecko backend.

And for quantum architectural changes. Most was already in 56 and
starting with 57 it was just lets rip this and this and that and this
out.

It needs to be supported but besides from a few key extensions like
uBlock and NoScript you won't miss much with web extensions. Most are
a joke compared to their former xul based ones.

FRG


NFN Smith wrote:

Hawker wrote:

I have Adblock Plus 2.9.1 installed on Seamonkey. My subscriptions
are starting to say I need a newer version to work.  I can't

Re: How to disable the cache for just one site ?

2018-09-04 Thread Allen 

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 03-09-18 04:51:

On 9/2/2018 4:14 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 03-09-18 01:03:

On 9/2/2018 1:52 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
I had a problem because SM show me the old version of a page on a 
site.


To avoid this, I put the cache length = 0

But now, some sites are too slow.

How can I disable the cache for just one site ?


I have disabled caching entirely.  Too many Web sites are generated or
modified "on the fly", through PHP, server-side includes, or scripts.
That means many cached Web pages are not current.  With a good 
broadband

connection, I do not notice much delay except when I encounter a Web
server with problems.

You have disabled completely the cache by going into about:config 
then put:

browser.cache.disk.enable to FALSE ?

Yes, through an entry in file user.js.



Anyway, with no caching I encounter a website who is too slow now.
So It's better to not disable the cache

What about:
"Compare the page in the cache to the page on the network" set to:
"Every time I view the page"

When an HTML file is generated or modified "on the fly", its time-stamp
is set to when that happens.  With "Compare the page in the cache to the
page on the network" set to "Every time I view the page", the time-stamp
of the file on the Web server has to be fetched for comparison with the
time-stamp on the cached file.  Thus, if a Web server is slow, the
comparison will be slow.  If the comparison fails, rendering the Web
page will be slower than if caching were disabled because you must add
the fetching of the server's time-stamp to the downloading of the HTML
file.

At one time, security implemented in Mozilla-based browsers meant that
Web pages downloaded as HTTPS were never cached.  I do not know if this
is still true.  However, more and more Web sites now use HTTPS instead
of HTTP.  If not caching HTTPS sites is indeed still true, it further
reduces any benefits from caching beyond the reduction from "on the fly"
generation or modification of Web pages.

My broadband connection gives me more than 75 Mbps downloads.  I chose
to disable caching because fewer and fewer Web sites benefit.


OK, so the best way, for me, could be:
- cache enabled.
- cache size = 0 MB
So my offending site will not be cached - and I must accept that other 
sites could be more slow because of cache size = 0.


I downloaded a driver that lets me create and manage a RAM disk (R:\ in 
my case) I have configured the cash to that location in preferences. 
The cashed pages are good and fast, until the next nightly reboot.  I 
also use this for the IE cash but I haven't figured out how to use it 
for Edge. I also have ccleaner configured to run at startup because it 
seems to find Facebook cookies that SeaMonkey can't eliminate for some 
reason.

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Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

2018-09-04 Thread Andy K 
On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 9:40:06 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Andy K wrote:
> > On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 6:43:32 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> >> Andy K wrote:
> >>> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:21:22 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little 
> >>> wrote:
>  Andy K wrote:
> >
> > I cant get netflix to play movies on my computer.
> >
> > I get error code F7352.
> >
> > I think I need this, but can't find it.
> >
> > Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin
> >
> 
>  I just added user.js preference
> 
>  user_pref("general.useragent.override.netflix.com", "Mozilla/5.0
>  (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0");
> 
>  Works just fine...lousy useragent sniffing.
> 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> It didn't help.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well I don't have any "Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin' in my
> >> plugin list
> 
> > 
> > Interesting. I can play netflix movies on Firefox.
> > 
> > Strange since Seamonkey is built on the same platform as Firefox.
> 
> It won't play if Seamonkey is in the useragent string.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Take care,
> 
> Jonathan
> ---
> LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
> http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Seamonkey is not in string

My general.user.agent.override is 

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/58.0
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