Re: Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe - Operator problem?

[حسين كليبي]

بتاريخ الأحد، 18 نوفمبر، 2018 9:22:15 م UTC+3، كتب Richard Owlett:
> I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 (under Debian 9.0). I downloaded it from the 
> SeaMonkey site.
> 
> After an long absence I decided to again follow a USENET group 
> (comp.lang.forth).
> 
> My provider indicates there are ~150k posts available. I chose to 
> download 5000, marking others "As Read". After a reasonable delay they 
> appeared and a thread of interest (~20 posts) was the third one displayed.
> 
> I successfully applied the same two custom tags to each, chose "Display 
> message threads, and read that thread.
> 
> *1st symptom*
> While scrolling back to see if there were other posts of immediate 
> interest, I found multiple post marked as "read" - an error.
> 
> *2nd symptom*
> I wanted _all_ post marked as "not read".
> As SeaMonkey has always required (I started with Netscape 4.?), I 
> selected ALL posts and marked them as "read". I'd forgotten that 
> SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read" [fails 
> with a "script busy notification" requiring a shutdown/restart of SM. I 
> found that it was happy marking ~1k posts "not read" at a time.
> _QUESTION_ Is there a work around for this?
> 
> *3rd symptom*
> I then searched Subject lines for a keyword. I discovered the first post 
> downloaded was the last of an interesting thread. I decided I wanted all 
> 150k headers. I unsubscribed the group. I then subscribed subscribed 
> again choosing to download *ALL* 150k headers. It ground to a halt and I 
> could not exit SeaMonkey. I chose to a hardware reset and a cold boot.
> _QUESTION_ How can I download all the headers. I know doing 5k at a time 
> works. I suspect 10-20k at a time would work. This is obviously far 
> outside the scope of normal use. BUT, does it rate a low priority bug 
> report?
> 
> TIA

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Re: FF & IE user agent spoofing strings

[Dave Yeo]

David E. Ross wrote:

The actual PrefBar "button" is at
.  Delete your existing
"button", download my UA_strings.btn file, and import it into PrefBar.
Importing will NOT work unless you delete the old version.

Alternatively, you can download UA_strings.btn and open it in Wordpad or
Notepad (NOT Word).  Then, manually update your useragent Exlist by
copying individual UA strings from UA_strings.btn.


David, I just ran across this posting and I would appreciate if you
would put them up for a bit as I would like to update my UA's. I also
use Win 7 Pro and Seamonkey (version 2.48 but have the version 2.49.4 on
a portable drive)email is good also.
Thanks


I am sending an E-mail message to you with the attached file for
PrefBar.  Just follow the instructions in my second message in this
thread.


Please may you email a copy as well?
Dave
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Re: Problem with google

[oldkinger via support-seamonkey]

Ant wrote:

On 11/17/2018 8:47 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

In the Google screen the textbox for resaerch - suddently works anormaly.

The text I type, il located in the upper half of the textbox, and my 
typing is limited in length ...


this is a sample chen I typed: CECI EST UN TEST EN ESSAI

All the text is present but not visible entirely.

You may see this by looking at
https://www.cjoint.com/c/HKrqGKzHrsO 



User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Windows 10


Perhaps caused by ths installation of this update

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4023057/update-to-windows-10-versions-1507-1511-1607-1703-1709-and-1803-for-up 


Done yesterday.


This is an old known issue with old SeaMonkey (SM) web browser. Google 
needs to fix it on their end, but it doesn't look like they will. As a 
workaround, you can disable SM's user agent string option not to 
advertise Firefox compability as shown in my uploaded 
https://image.ibb.co/emUTn0/Disable-UAstring-Advertise-Firefox-Compatbility.gif 
screen capture/shot.


Please do let Google about this issue through/via its 
https://www.google.com/tools/feedback/mobile_feedback_no_login?hl=en=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%3Fgws_rd%3Dssl=true=true=196=websearch 
form so they know there are many old SeaMonkey users. Maybe they can be 
pressured by us old SM users to make them fix it.



Firefox compatibility fix worked perfectly. Thanks so much
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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 11/18/2018 1:01 PM, Ant wrote:

On 11/17/2018 10:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...

Private Data settings:

Clear Private Data
[x] Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey
[ ] Ask me before clearing private data

When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:
[ ] Browsing History
[x] Location Bar History
[x] Download History
[x] Saved Form and Search History
[x] Cache
[x] Cookies
[x] Offline Website Data
[ ] Saved Passwords
[x] Authenticated Sessions


Hmm. I tried clearing all, but they didn't make my webappsstore.sqlite
file smaller at all. I guess I will have to delete this file 
manually. :(


I created a .bat file to delete all instances of webappsstore.sqlite, an
instance in each of my five SeaMonkey profiles plus one instance in my
single Thunderbird profile.


I don't understand why SM doesn't clear this file since it can cause 
issues like I ran into yesterday with https://flickmetrix.com. I wonder 
what other web sites had issues because of this file. :(


Also, I found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857888 
(webappsstore.sqlite is larger than it should be). Not big as mine though.


I also was going to write up a suggestion report about having SM 
clearing this webappsstore.sqlite file in its clear my data option, but 
my old Mozilla's Bugzilla account was disabled due to e-mail issues 
("Your Bugzilla account has been disabled due to issues delivering 
emails to your address..."). Argh! :(


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1508190 for my new suggestion.
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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

DOM storage is part of the spec. We can't just junk it. There is at least one 
bug open but I was unable to reproduce it so far:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1305624

It is valid but somewhat rare. There is at least one other bug report about 
storage not cleared. When I find some time I will look into it. The apis 
changed and even Firefox didn't clear everything until recently.


FRG

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 18-11-18 22:01:

On 11/17/2018 10:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...

Private Data settings:

Clear Private Data
[x] Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey
[ ] Ask me before clearing private data

When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:
[ ] Browsing History
[x] Location Bar History
[x] Download History
[x] Saved Form and Search History
[x] Cache
[x] Cookies
[x] Offline Website Data
[ ] Saved Passwords
[x] Authenticated Sessions


Hmm. I tried clearing all, but they didn't make my webappsstore.sqlite
file smaller at all. I guess I will have to delete this file manually. :(


I created a .bat file to delete all instances of webappsstore.sqlite, an
instance in each of my five SeaMonkey profiles plus one instance in my
single Thunderbird profile.


I don't understand why SM doesn't clear this file since it can cause issues 
like I ran into yesterday with https://flickmetrix.com. I wonder what other 
web sites had issues because of this file. :(


Also, I found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857888 
(webappsstore.sqlite is larger than it should be). Not big as mine though.


I also was going to write up a suggestion report about having SM clearing 
this webappsstore.sqlite file in its clear my data option, but my old 
Mozilla's Bugzilla account was disabled due to e-mail issues ("Your Bugzilla 
account has been disabled due to issues delivering emails to your 
address..."). Argh! :(
Due to the fact that we can remove this file (webappsstore.sqlite) without any 
side-effect .. why SM needs this file ?

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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 18-11-18 22:01:

On 11/17/2018 10:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...

Private Data settings:

Clear Private Data
[x] Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey
[ ] Ask me before clearing private data

When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:
[ ] Browsing History
[x] Location Bar History
[x] Download History
[x] Saved Form and Search History
[x] Cache
[x] Cookies
[x] Offline Website Data
[ ] Saved Passwords
[x] Authenticated Sessions


Hmm. I tried clearing all, but they didn't make my webappsstore.sqlite
file smaller at all. I guess I will have to delete this file 
manually. :(


I created a .bat file to delete all instances of webappsstore.sqlite, an
instance in each of my five SeaMonkey profiles plus one instance in my
single Thunderbird profile.


I don't understand why SM doesn't clear this file since it can cause 
issues like I ran into yesterday with https://flickmetrix.com. I 
wonder what other web sites had issues because of this file. :(


Also, I found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857888 
(webappsstore.sqlite is larger than it should be). Not big as mine 
though.


I also was going to write up a suggestion report about having SM 
clearing this webappsstore.sqlite file in its clear my data option, 
but my old Mozilla's Bugzilla account was disabled due to e-mail 
issues ("Your Bugzilla account has been disabled due to issues 
delivering emails to your address..."). Argh! :(
Due to the fact that we can remove this file (webappsstore.sqlite) 
without any side-effect .. why SM needs this file ?

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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 11/17/2018 10:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...

Private Data settings:

Clear Private Data
[x] Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey
[ ] Ask me before clearing private data

When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:
[ ] Browsing History
[x] Location Bar History
[x] Download History
[x] Saved Form and Search History
[x] Cache
[x] Cookies
[x] Offline Website Data
[ ] Saved Passwords
[x] Authenticated Sessions


Hmm. I tried clearing all, but they didn't make my webappsstore.sqlite
file smaller at all. I guess I will have to delete this file manually. :(


I created a .bat file to delete all instances of webappsstore.sqlite, an
instance in each of my five SeaMonkey profiles plus one instance in my
single Thunderbird profile.


I don't understand why SM doesn't clear this file since it can cause 
issues like I ran into yesterday with https://flickmetrix.com. I wonder 
what other web sites had issues because of this file. :(


Also, I found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857888 
(webappsstore.sqlite is larger than it should be). Not big as mine though.


I also was going to write up a suggestion report about having SM 
clearing this webappsstore.sqlite file in its clear my data option, but 
my old Mozilla's Bugzilla account was disabled due to e-mail issues 
("Your Bugzilla account has been disabled due to issues delivering 
emails to your address..."). Argh! :(

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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 11/18/2018 11:10 AM, EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, Ant wrote:

Mine was about 33.2 MB! I noticed https://flickmetrix.com wasn't showing
its results because of it (corrupted?) until I (delet/remov)ed it. It
took me a while to figure out why this web site wasn't working until I
tried a private window in my existing profile and a new profile.



In my primary profile, it is 1.09 MB.  I delete webappsstore.sqlite from
all profiles each week before doing a total system backup.  If the file
does not exist, a new version will download when I next launch SeaMonkey.

I also delete the contents of the storage and safebrowsing folders and
all caches before doing my backup.  These too are regenerated when I
next launch SeaMonkey.


Mine is 98K.  I block DOM storage and indexed DB.


Where is that option to block those?
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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 11/18/2018 6:04 AM, Don Spam's reckless Son wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 11/17/2018 12:44 PM, Don Spam's reckless Son wrote:

Ant wrote:
Mine was about 33.2 MB! I noticed https://flickmetrix.com wasn't 
showing its results because of it (corrupted?) until I 
(delet/remov)ed it. It took me a while to figure out why this web 
site wasn't working until I tried a private window in my existing 
profile and a new profile.


29.8 MB in my case.


Wow, yours is big too. When was the last time purged it?


I don't think I have purged it all, I have never felt the need.


Same here since I installed SM v2.46 back in late October 2016. I didn't 
know about it until I investigated it yesterday since I was having 
problems with https://flickmetrix.com and wasn't able to reproduce it in 
other setups and profiles. It was interesting how that file can cause 
issues. Sheesh! :(

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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, Ant wrote:

Mine was about 33.2 MB! I noticed https://flickmetrix.com wasn't showing
its results because of it (corrupted?) until I (delet/remov)ed it. It
took me a while to figure out why this web site wasn't working until I
tried a private window in my existing profile and a new profile.



In my primary profile, it is 1.09 MB.  I delete webappsstore.sqlite from
all profiles each week before doing a total system backup.  If the file
does not exist, a new version will download when I next launch SeaMonkey.

I also delete the contents of the storage and safebrowsing folders and
all caches before doing my backup.  These too are regenerated when I
next launch SeaMonkey.


Mine is 98K.  I block DOM storage and indexed DB.

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Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe - Operator problem?

[Richard Owlett]

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 (under Debian 9.0). I downloaded it from the 
SeaMonkey site.


After an long absence I decided to again follow a USENET group 
(comp.lang.forth).


My provider indicates there are ~150k posts available. I chose to 
download 5000, marking others "As Read". After a reasonable delay they 
appeared and a thread of interest (~20 posts) was the third one displayed.


I successfully applied the same two custom tags to each, chose "Display 
message threads, and read that thread.


*1st symptom*
While scrolling back to see if there were other posts of immediate 
interest, I found multiple post marked as "read" - an error.


*2nd symptom*
I wanted _all_ post marked as "not read".
As SeaMonkey has always required (I started with Netscape 4.?), I 
selected ALL posts and marked them as "read". I'd forgotten that 
SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read" [fails 
with a "script busy notification" requiring a shutdown/restart of SM. I 
found that it was happy marking ~1k posts "not read" at a time.

_QUESTION_ Is there a work around for this?

*3rd symptom*
I then searched Subject lines for a keyword. I discovered the first post 
downloaded was the last of an interesting thread. I decided I wanted all 
150k headers. I unsubscribed the group. I then subscribed subscribed 
again choosing to download *ALL* 150k headers. It ground to a halt and I 
could not exit SeaMonkey. I chose to a hardware reset and a cold boot.
_QUESTION_ How can I download all the headers. I know doing 5k at a time 
works. I suspect 10-20k at a time would work. This is obviously far 
outside the scope of normal use. BUT, does it rate a low priority bug 
report?


TIA



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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Don Spam's reckless Son]

Ant wrote:

On 11/17/2018 12:44 PM, Don Spam's reckless Son wrote:

Ant wrote:
Mine was about 33.2 MB! I noticed https://flickmetrix.com wasn't 
showing its results because of it (corrupted?) until I 
(delet/remov)ed it. It took me a while to figure out why this web 
site wasn't working until I tried a private window in my existing 
profile and a new profile.


29.8 MB in my case.


Wow, yours is big too. When was the last time purged it?


I don't think I have purged it all, I have never felt the need.


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Re: seamonkey not properly installed

[cyberzen]

EE a écrit :

cyberzen wrote:

Hi,
on a new PC with windows 10 I had a problem about "send to recipient" 
not firing seamonkey mail


after google searching for solutions, I have seen that seamonkey did 
not appeared in the list of installed programs

so I decided to re install

I did it from the user account that I use most of the time
first I was surprised that I was not asked to give the password of the 
administrator account, as usual in this case for all the programs I 
may have to install


next, it did not appeared in the installed programs after installing 
properly


again, The send to recipient did not work

so I decided to reinstall from the administrator account

this solved the 2 problems : it appears in installed programs list, 
and send to recipient works properly


my question would be : can you install seamonkey from a limited 
account without granting the administrator rights


I installed SeaMonkey to a Standard account (on MacOS), which does not 
have admin rights, and I use it from that account.  That is no problem. 
To install something into an account and use it from the same account 
does not require an admin password.




that's an interesting point
in fact I was using seamonkey without admin rights with no problem
(except the "send to recipient" not working as I expected)
I use to install all software from that account and always have to grant 
admin rights to continue 
seamonkey seems to be an exception up to now and I did not notice it 
during the first install
now I have done a second installation with admin rights I got a second 
shortcut on the screen

and duplicates entries in the start menu



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