Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

If you use the zip method some dlls will not be registered. This affects "send 
to email" and i.e. screen reader support. Installing it is recommended. There 
are known problems with creating the profile in a directory outside of your 
profile. I would suggest to use the default location and use the installer 
whenever possible. There are ways to set up the Windows profile on a different 
drive if needed.


FRG

Ray Davison wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:


I also always have multiple versions of each app. 


As an aside, I have never "installed" a Mozilla app.  I always use the ZIP 
distros.  SM is available as a ZIP.  Un-zip and copy to where ever you want 
with a name such as SM_Version_XXX, or something that is meaningful to you.  
Then create a shortcut.




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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[WaltS48]

Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:



The profiles still end up in the .mozilla and .thunderbird folders. 
Too much work to change the locations.


The same on Windows.

The profiles end up where ever you put them.  But you do need to 
specify.  I put the apps and profiles in separate trees of my choice and 
location, and I put mail in a separate tree in a third location.


And if you allowed an install routine to place the profile and mail in a 
default location, it is "too much work" only if you are unable to 
copy/delete or move a sub-directory.





Or don't want to think about how you want to set it up. Too damn lazy.

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Re: Archiving email in SM 2.49.4

[WaltS48]

JAS wrote:
What is the procedure to archive emails. I have tried to click archive 
when a message is highlighted and a folder is created but no message in it.


JAS


Selected an email in my Comcast POP3 accounts Inbox.
Right-clicked and selected "Archive".
An "Archives" folder was created with a "2019" subfolder in it.
The message was in the "2019" subfolder.

I guess the folder gets the 2019 date from the archived message?

Confirmed by archiving one from 2020 which created a "2020" subfolder 
under "Archives".


Don't know how an IMAP account would work.

Is yours a POP3 or IMAP account?
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Archiving email in SM 2.49.4

[JAS]

What is the procedure to archive emails. I have tried to click archive 
when a message is highlighted and a folder is created but no message in it.


JAS
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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[Ray Davison]

WaltS48 wrote:



The profiles still end up in the .mozilla and .thunderbird folders. Too 
much work to change the locations.


The same on Windows.

The profiles end up where ever you put them.  But you do need to 
specify.  I put the apps and profiles in separate trees of my choice and 
location, and I put mail in a separate tree in a third location.


And if you allowed an install routine to place the profile and mail in a 
default location, it is "too much work" only if you are unable to 
copy/delete or move a sub-directory.






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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[WaltS48]

On 1/4/20 1:59 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:


I also always have multiple versions of each app. 


As an aside, I have never "installed" a Mozilla app.  I always use the 
ZIP distros.  SM is available as a ZIP.  Un-zip and copy to where ever 
you want with a name such as SM_Version_XXX, or something that is 
meaningful to you.  Then create a shortcut.





I guess other than the Linux distro builds, I have never "installed" a 
Mozilla, SeaMonkey Project or Thunderbird Project application on my 
computer.


The profiles still end up in the .mozilla and .thunderbird folders. Too 
much work to change the locations.


The same on Windows.

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Tiny font size in Plain Text Newsgroup messages

[WaltS48]

Interesting that Thunderbird users are complaining about tiny font size 
with the update to 68.3.1, but no SeaMonkey users are complaining about 
them in 2.49.5.


Why are they so tiny? Is it because they are Fixed Width?

Changed the Message Display setting to Variable and don't see any 
difference.


Ah! The default settings for font size are the same for SeaMonkey and 
Thunderbird.


Changing Preferences > Appearance > Fonts > Monospace setting from 12 to 
something larger helps. Just like in Thunderbird.

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Re: ATT email

[WaltS48]

On 1/4/20 2:51 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/4/20 12:57 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Mine works.
I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
forgot to renew the cert.


Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
account?


I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.

ATT.net settings:
Outgoing:
smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
Port 465
m...@att.net
Normal password
SSL/TLS

Incoming:
pop.att.yahoo.com
port 995
SSL/TLS
Auth = normal password

As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
instead.


What file can I edit to modify my ATT.net settings?



What file did you use to set up the account?


I think it was some kind of file that I used to convert from Netscape to 
Seamonkey so Haveb't a clue
as that was aa long time ago



Then you need to follow these instructions.

For incoming mail, open the Mail & Newsgroups window.

Select the email account in the Folder pane.
Select "View settings for this account".
Under the account name, choose "Server Settings" to access the settings.

For outgoing mail.

Select "Outgoing Server (SMTP)".
Select the server name and click "Edit" to access the settings.

Make the necessary changes and you should be done.

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Re: ATT email

[Arnie Goetchius]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 1/4/20 12:57 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>> Ray Davison wrote:
 Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>
> Mine works.
> I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
> being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
> myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
> forgot to renew the cert.

 Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
 account?
>>>
>>> I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.
>>>
>>> ATT.net settings:
>>> Outgoing:
>>> smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
>>> Port 465
>>> m...@att.net
>>> Normal password
>>> SSL/TLS
>>>
>>> Incoming:
>>> pop.att.yahoo.com
>>> port 995
>>> SSL/TLS
>>> Auth = normal password
>>>
>>> As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
>>> I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
>>> instead.
>>>
>> What file can I edit to modify my ATT.net settings?
>>
> 
> What file did you use to set up the account?
> 
I think it was some kind of file that I used to convert from Netscape to 
Seamonkey so Haveb't a clue
as that was aa long time ago
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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[Ray Davison]

Ray Davison wrote:


I also always have multiple versions of each app.  


As an aside, I have never "installed" a Mozilla app.  I always use the 
ZIP distros.  SM is available as a ZIP.  Un-zip and copy to where ever 
you want with a name such as SM_Version_XXX, or something that is 
meaningful to you.  Then create a shortcut.



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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

[Ray Davison]

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 running 
(Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine to the 
newer one ?

It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember how.

Things are changing so fast !


This is your chance to disassociate all internet apps from the OS.  My 
data files began life in Netscape.  Do yours go back that far?  And 
those files have been used on many computers by multiple versions of Win 
and OS/2.  And, I have never "lost" my email.


The trick is, I have never had the apps or data on a boot partition. The 
apps are on an apps partition and the data is on a data partition. I can 
reinstall or replace an OS and the most I need to do to the apps is 
create a fresh run object (shortcut).


I also always multiple versions of each app.  I never replace an app or 
OS until I an convinced the replacement is superior.  So every computer 
has multiple versions of Win and Mozilla and/or Mozilla clones.


The first thing you need to do is copy the entire profile - which is a 
directory tree - to another partition of your choice, with the name of 
your choice.  Also copy the app tree to a place and name of your choice.


Then after you install Win, create an app shortcut with a 
"-Profilemanager" run switch, which will open profile manager.  Take SM 
by the hand to where you copied the profile and tell SM to use it.


On desktops, I now have only OSs on one HDD and only apps and data on 
another HDD.  I have clones of each.  If one dies, I can swap in the OS 
HDD and the data doesn't know the difference, or swap the apps/data HDD 
ans the OSs do not know the difference.


Ray
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Re: ATT email

[WaltS48]

On 1/4/20 12:57 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Mine works.
I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
forgot to renew the cert.


Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
account?


I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.

ATT.net settings:
Outgoing:
smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
Port 465
m...@att.net
Normal password
SSL/TLS

Incoming:
pop.att.yahoo.com
port 995
SSL/TLS
Auth = normal password

As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
instead.


What file can I edit to modify my ATT.net settings?



What file did you use to set up the account?

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Re: ATT email

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Mine works.
I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
forgot to renew the cert.


Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
account?


I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.

ATT.net settings:
Outgoing:
smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
Port 465
m...@att.net
Normal password
SSL/TLS

Incoming:
pop.att.yahoo.com
port 995
SSL/TLS
Auth = normal password

As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
instead.


Do I need to edit a file in the Profile to implement the "Att.net settings"?
gs


For incoming mail, go to Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, and under 
the account name, choose "Server Settings" to access the settings.


For outgoing mail, go to Mail & News Account Settings, and under 
"Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Settings," click the server name once and click 
"Edit" to access the settings.


Of course "m...@att.net" above was just an example for illustration; use 
your own email address.


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Re: Remote Content Blocked?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:


Tom Pamin wrote:
I just set up a new mail account. All remote content like images is 
being blocked. I have to approve each email separately to show images. 
How do I show remote content automatically for all emails? I do have 
"Show all images" checked in Preferences.


Sorry, I can't find a "Show all images" in my SeaMonkey 2.49.5 
preferences. I do have "Load all images" under Privacy & Security > 
Images. That only applies to the browser.


If you have "Block images and other content from remote sources" enabled 
in Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Message Display. Remove the check 
mark.


That's correct for how to do it.

But the OP should be aware that loading all remote images will also 
permit web beacons and similar tracking devices. If he's concerned about 
his privacy, he would be better off showing images on a case-by-case or 
site-by-site basis.



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Re: ATT email

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Ray Davison wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine works.
>>> I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
>>> being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
>>> myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
>>> forgot to renew the cert.
>>
>> Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
>> account?
> 
> I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.
> 
> ATT.net settings:
> Outgoing:
> smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
> Port 465
> m...@att.net
> Normal password
> SSL/TLS
> 
> Incoming:
> pop.att.yahoo.com
> port 995
> SSL/TLS
> Auth = normal password
> 
> As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
> I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
> instead.
> 
What file do I edit to modify my att.net settings?
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Re: ATT email

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Ray Davison wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine works.
>>> I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
>>> being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
>>> myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
>>> forgot to renew the cert.
>>
>> Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
>> account?
> 
> I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.
> 
> ATT.net settings:
> Outgoing:
> smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
> Port 465
> m...@att.net
> Normal password
> SSL/TLS
> 
> Incoming:
> pop.att.yahoo.com
> port 995
> SSL/TLS
> Auth = normal password
> 
> As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
> I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
> instead.
> 
What file do I modify to change the att,net settins?
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Re: ATT email

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Ray Davison wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine works.
>>> I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
>>> being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
>>> myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
>>> forgot to renew the cert.
>>
>> Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
>> account?
> 
> I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.
> 
> ATT.net settings:
> Outgoing:
> smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
> Port 465
> m...@att.net
> Normal password
> SSL/TLS
> 
> Incoming:
> pop.att.yahoo.com
> port 995
> SSL/TLS
> Auth = normal password
> 
> As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
> I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
> instead.
> 
What file do I edit to modify my att.net settings
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Re: ATT email

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Ray Davison wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine works.
>>> I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
>>> being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
>>> myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
>>> forgot to renew the cert.
>>
>> Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
>> account?
> 
> I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.
> 
> ATT.net settings:
> Outgoing:
> smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
> Port 465
> m...@att.net
> Normal password
> SSL/TLS
> 
> Incoming:
> pop.att.yahoo.com
> port 995
> SSL/TLS
> Auth = normal password
> 
> As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
> I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
> instead.
> 
What file do I edit to change the att.net settings?
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Re: ATT email

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Ray Davison wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine works.
>>> I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
>>> being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
>>> myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
>>> forgot to renew the cert.
>>
>> Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
>> account?
> 
> I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.
> 
> ATT.net settings:
> Outgoing:
> smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
> Port 465
> m...@att.net
> Normal password
> SSL/TLS
> 
> Incoming:
> pop.att.yahoo.com
> port 995
> SSL/TLS
> Auth = normal password
> 
> As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
> I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
> instead.
> 
What file can I edit to modify my ATT.net settings?
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Re: Remote Content Blocked?

[WaltS48]

Tom Pamin wrote:
I just set up a new mail account. All remote content like images is 
being blocked. I have to approve each email separately to show images. 
How do I show remote content automatically for all emails? I do have 
"Show all images" checked in Preferences.


Sorry, I can't find a "Show all images" in my SeaMonkey 2.49.5 
preferences. I do have "Load all images" under Privacy & Security > 
Images. That only applies to the browser.


If you have "Block images and other content from remote sources" enabled 
in Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Message Display. Remove the check mark.



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Re: ATT email

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Ray Davison wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine works.
>>> I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
>>> being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails t o
>>> myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
>>> forgot to renew the cert.
>>
>> Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
>> account?
> 
> I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.
> 
> ATT.net settings:
> Outgoing:
> smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
> Port 465
> m...@att.net
> Normal password
> SSL/TLS
> 
> Incoming:
> pop.att.yahoo.com
> port 995
> SSL/TLS
> Auth = normal password
> 
> As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
> I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap gmail 
> instead.
> 
Do I need to edit a file in the Profile to implement the "Att.net settings"?
gs
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Remote Content Blocked?

[Tom Pamin]

I just set up a new mail account. All remote content like images is 
being blocked. I have to approve each email separately to show images. 
How do I show remote content automatically for all emails? I do have 
"Show all images" checked in Preferences.

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