Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox

2020-06-01 Thread David E. Ross 
On 6/1/2020 6:02 AM, Daniel wrote:
> I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account.
> 
> I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply I 
> get an error message .
> 
> Quote
> Sending of the message failed.
> The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server 
> failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please 
> verify that your news server settings are correct and try again.
> End Quote
> 
> Every time!!
> 
> This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on 
> the "Local Folders" account.
> 
> Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to 
> resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have moved 
> from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still haven't 
> appeared on the E-S newsgroup!
> 
> Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I can 
> actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!!
> 

If your messages are in your Outbox, that indicates you might have
selected "Send later" instead of "Send".  If so, select the Outbox
folder (NOT any messages there), right-click, and select "Send unsent
messages" from the pull-down context menu.

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Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox

2020-06-01 Thread WaltS48 

On 6/1/20 2:00 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/1/20 9:02 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account.

I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a 
reply I get an error message .


Quote
Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server 
failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. 
Please verify that your news server settings are correct and try again.

End Quote

Every time!!

This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder 
on the "Local Folders" account.


Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to 
resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have 
moved from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still 
haven't appeared on the E-S newsgroup!


Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I 
can actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!!




Maybe the news server is down.

Can you get messages?



If you look at his posting really carefully - like the second line - the 
answer appears to be yes.




Thanks for that.

I had forgotten he wrote that when replying.

Now where is that embarrassed emoji.

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Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox

2020-06-01 Thread Frog 

On 6/1/2020 9:02 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account.

I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply I 
get an error message .


Quote
Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server 
failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please 
verify that your news server settings are correct and try again.

End Quote

Every time!!

This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on 
the "Local Folders" account.


Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to 
resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have moved 
from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still haven't 
appeared on the E-S newsgroup!


Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I can 
actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!!


I never thought I would be responding to anything on this news 
group...but here I am.  I also have/had some of the same problems that 
you described in your message. If you noticed, a few of my recent 
threads in this group looked like I sent the same message more than 
once.  I would attempt to send the message and it would come back 
instantaneously with a small window informing me that the message was 
undeliverable (for a reason that I can't remember).  I, then, sent the 
message again; and the same thing happened...over and over.  I then made 
a visit to this newsgroup and there were all of those messages that I 
thought failed to send.  In fact, you may have noticed, in the message I 
sent to you in my recent thread had the same problem.  After three 
attempts I just happened to observe who my message was addressed to and 
there was my problem.  I changed the address to 
mozilla.support.seamonkey and then the message sent as usual.  In fact, 
I had to change the to address in this message from Daniel 
 to mozilla.support.seamonkey.


I hope this information will help in solving your problem.

Frog

P.S. As you know...my SeaMonkey Newsgroup access is on the fritz.  Thus, 
the problems I described above occurred while I was using Thunderbird.

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Re: I continue to have an endless string of problems with SeaMonkey.

2020-06-01 Thread EE 

Frog wrote:


Before I start, I am about to say many things in this message that have 
already been the subjects of some of my earlier messages.  Quickly 
stated...I am not making any progress in finding a solution for my 
SeaMonkey problems.


I really am having great difficulty making SeaMonkey work on my 
computer.  I am not able to open any messages on the m.general or the 
news.mozilla.com news groups.  Also, my responses to Inbox messages are 
not being stored in my Sent folder (I don't know if they are being 
recorded anywhere on my computer--simply put, they are lost).  My 
SeaMonkey folders are stored on my E drive: 
(SeaM_AboutConfig...SeaMonkeyAddNk...SeaMonkeyProfile).
I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that 
SeaMonkey has crashed.  I have tried to chase down what might be causing 
this endless string of problems without much success.  Let me say, 
however, that I suspect that my problem is associated with moving from a 
32 bit software program to a 64 bit SeaMonkey program...this thinking is 
based on the date that I changed from 32 to 64 bits SeaMonkey software. 
Please note that I am currently writing this message on Thunderbird and 
all is working properly with this software.  Also, I am using Windows 10 
for both SeaMonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird. Also, I have used Webroot 
Secure Anywhere software on everything on my computer without any 
problems being found.


With all of the above said, here is where I need your help.  I have in 
my mind that I must remove/reinstall SeaMonkey on my computer.


I have copied the three folders listed above in this message to a 
different location on my computer...hopefully I will be able to fix any 
problems that occur as a result of redoing my SeaMonkey software.  Am I 
correct?


The drive that the backups are recorded in is on the same drive (E) 
where they were originally recorded...in a folder named 
Backup_Seamonkey.  This should keep this data secure...correct?


I'm not sure which SeaMonkey software should be reinstalled on my 
computer-32 or 64 bit...it seems like it should be the 64 bit version. 
Is this a good guess?


Would it be a better choice to give up on SeaMonkey and turn to 
Firefox/Thunderbird for my internet work?  This action would also 
involve training another person on how to use the new software.


What other problems should I consider before I goof up my computer and 
not be able to communicate with anybody for help?


Frog

If you have Thunderbird working, you could use its settings as a 
reference to work out what is wrong with the SeaMonkey settings.  They 
both use the same settings for newsgroups and email.


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Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox

2020-06-01 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son 

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/1/20 9:02 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account.

I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply 
I get an error message .


Quote
Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server 
failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. 
Please verify that your news server settings are correct and try again.

End Quote

Every time!!

This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on 
the "Local Folders" account.


Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to 
resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have 
moved from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still 
haven't appeared on the E-S newsgroup!


Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I 
can actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!!




Maybe the news server is down.

Can you get messages?



If you look at his posting really carefully - like the second line - the 
answer appears to be yes.


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Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox

2020-06-01 Thread WaltS48 

On 6/1/20 9:02 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account.

I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply I 
get an error message .


Quote
Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server 
failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please 
verify that your news server settings are correct and try again.

End Quote

Every time!!

This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on 
the "Local Folders" account.


Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to 
resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have moved 
from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still haven't 
appeared on the E-S newsgroup!


Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I can 
actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!!




Maybe the news server is down.

Can you get messages?

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Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox

2020-06-01 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son 

Daniel wrote:

I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account.

I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply I 
get an error message .


Quote
Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server 
failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please 
verify that your news server settings are correct and try again.

End Quote

Every time!!

This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on 
the "Local Folders" account.


Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to 
resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have moved 
from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still haven't 
appeared on the E-S newsgroup!


Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I can 
actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!!




It sounds as though their requirements may have changed, do your 
settings agree with those on 
https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo ?


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Getting posts out of the Outbox

2020-06-01 Thread Daniel 

I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account.

I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply I 
get an error message .


Quote
Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server 
failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please 
verify that your news server settings are correct and try again.

End Quote

Every time!!

This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on 
the "Local Folders" account.


Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to 
resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have moved 
from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still haven't 
appeared on the E-S newsgroup!


Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I can 
actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!!


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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: I continue to have an endless string of problems with SeaMonkey.

2020-06-01 Thread Daniel 

Frog wrote on 1/06/2020 7:02 AM:


Before I start, I am about to say many things in this message that have 
already been the subjects of some of my earlier messages.  Quickly 
stated...I am not making any progress in finding a solution for my 
SeaMonkey problems.


I really am having great difficulty making SeaMonkey work on my 
computer.  I am not able to open any messages on the m.general or the 
news.mozilla.com news groups.  Also, my responses to Inbox messages are 
not being stored in my Sent folder (I don't know if they are being 
recorded anywhere on my computer--simply put, they are lost).  My 
SeaMonkey folders are stored on my E drive: 
(SeaM_AboutConfig...SeaMonkeyAddNk...SeaMonkeyProfile).
I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that 
SeaMonkey has crashed.  I have tried to chase down what might be causing 
this endless string of problems without much success.  Let me say, 
however, that I suspect that my problem is associated with moving from a 
32 bit software program to a 64 bit SeaMonkey program...this thinking is 
based on the date that I changed from 32 to 64 bits SeaMonkey software. 
Please note that I am currently writing this message on Thunderbird and 
all is working properly with this software.  Also, I am using Windows 10 
for both SeaMonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird. Also, I have used Webroot 
Secure Anywhere software on everything on my computer without any 
problems being found.


With all of the above said, here is where I need your help.  I have in 
my mind that I must remove/reinstall SeaMonkey on my computer.


I have copied the three folders listed above in this message to a 
different location on my computer...hopefully I will be able to fix any 
problems that occur as a result of redoing my SeaMonkey software.  Am I 
correct?


The drive that the backups are recorded in is on the same drive (E) 
where they were originally recorded...in a folder named 
Backup_Seamonkey.  This should keep this data secure...correct?


I'm not sure which SeaMonkey software should be reinstalled on my 
computer-32 or 64 bit...it seems like it should be the 64 bit version. 
Is this a good guess?


Would it be a better choice to give up on SeaMonkey and turn to 
Firefox/Thunderbird for my internet work?  This action would also 
involve training another person on how to use the new software.


What other problems should I consider before I goof up my computer and 
not be able to communicate with anybody for help?


Frog


Frog, you peaked my interest when you mentioned that you were switching 
SeaMonkey FROM 32-bit TO 64-bit  but, then, when I looked at your 
Thunderbird User Agent (i.e. the program that *IS* working) it shows you 
are using the WOW64 bit program which, as I understand it, is a 32-bit 
Operating System program that has been set up to run on a 64-bit machine.


And now you are installing a 64-bit SeaMonkey program on an Operating 
System that has been modified to run as though it is a 32-bit Operating 
System.


My advice, for what it's worth, is to try setting up the 32-bit 
SeaMonkey on your (sort of) 32-bit Operating System computer.


If my advice is incorrect, I expect someone here to let you (and ME) know!!

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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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