Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Without uninstalling TB it is game over. You will be unable to set SeaMonkey as an application for news. As I wrote some time ago. There seems to be a bug in the SM installer which does not register the protocols if it finds Thunderbird. MIght be fixed in the future if I or IanN find the time but not for 2.53.3. Can't you do it from Windows? Control Panel | Default Programs | Set Associations Scroll to the bottom and use the "Change Program" button to specify SeaMonkey for the protocols NEWS, NNTP, SNEWS. Having done so, launch SM and create a news account for mozilla.support.seamonkey and any other newsgroups you like. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:48 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? SeaMonkey. I will now recap what I have done as a result of your message: Make a complete Windows backup I made the backup. Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. I did deinstall both Seamonkey x86 and x64. I did not deinstall Thunderbird…it is the only way I have of accessing the newsgroup. Without uninstalling TB it is game over. You will be unable to set SeaMonkey as an application for news. As I wrote some time ago. There seems to be a bug in the SM installer which does not register the protocols if it finds Thunderbird. MIght be fixed in the future if I or IanN find the time but not for 2.53.3. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I continue to have an endless string of problems with SeaMonkey.
On 6/1/2020 2:55 PM, EE wrote: Frog wrote: Before I start, I am about to say many things in this message that have already been the subjects of some of my earlier messages. Quickly stated...I am not making any progress in finding a solution for my SeaMonkey problems. I really am having great difficulty making SeaMonkey work on my computer. I am not able to open any messages on the m.general or the news.mozilla.com news groups. Also, my responses to Inbox messages are not being stored in my Sent folder (I don't know if they are being recorded anywhere on my computer--simply put, they are lost). My SeaMonkey folders are stored on my E drive: (SeaM_AboutConfig...SeaMonkeyAddNk...SeaMonkeyProfile). I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that SeaMonkey has crashed. I have tried to chase down what might be causing this endless string of problems without much success. Let me say, however, that I suspect that my problem is associated with moving from a 32 bit software program to a 64 bit SeaMonkey program...this thinking is based on the date that I changed from 32 to 64 bits SeaMonkey software. Please note that I am currently writing this message on Thunderbird and all is working properly with this software. Also, I am using Windows 10 for both SeaMonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird. Also, I have used Webroot Secure Anywhere software on everything on my computer without any problems being found. With all of the above said, here is where I need your help. I have in my mind that I must remove/reinstall SeaMonkey on my computer. I have copied the three folders listed above in this message to a different location on my computer...hopefully I will be able to fix any problems that occur as a result of redoing my SeaMonkey software. Am I correct? The drive that the backups are recorded in is on the same drive (E) where they were originally recorded...in a folder named Backup_Seamonkey. This should keep this data secure...correct? I'm not sure which SeaMonkey software should be reinstalled on my computer-32 or 64 bit...it seems like it should be the 64 bit version. Is this a good guess? Would it be a better choice to give up on SeaMonkey and turn to Firefox/Thunderbird for my internet work? This action would also involve training another person on how to use the new software. What other problems should I consider before I goof up my computer and not be able to communicate with anybody for help? Frog If you have Thunderbird working, you could use its settings as a reference to work out what is wrong with the SeaMonkey settings. They both use the same settings for newsgroups and email. I have checked the settings, one agenst the other, and the settings are the same as far as I can see. I have made copies of both settings and compared one against the other and that did not show any differences. Thanks for you help. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/3/2020 10:48 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? You asked me a question, and I will reply to that question. Yes, I have sent several connected threads over the past several days-weeks. This response is not to show disrespect for the help I have received from this newsgroup in past years…it has truly been professional in all respects; and I appreciate what individuals willingly give of their time to assist me and others, when they don’t know the answer to a SeaMonkey problem. I am in no way an expert at the technical aspects of a computer…in fact, I recently replaced my old flip phone for a new Jitterbug smart phone…and even that is currently a challenge for my lacking technical skills. Well, back to “Why are you opening new threads? My recent threads do deal with one software program…SeaMonkey. I presently do not know, after my many recent threads, why…I can see newsgroup subjects, but I cannot open them in SeaMonkey, and I do not know why my non-newsgroup messages are not being recorded in my Sent folder. I decided, since I have not gotten a solution for my problems, I would start attempting to take them one at a time. Yes, I am not the youngest person to need help (83); but I have no other place to turn for help…particularly now that I have to watch myself during this virus situation. I hope you understand my reasoning for the message in this thread…I was looking for easy to follow instructions in order that I would be able to return to a normal SeaMonkey. I will now recap what I have done as a result of your message: Make a complete Windows backup I made the backup. Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. I did deinstall both Seamonkey x86 and x64. I did not deinstall Thunderbird…it is the only way I have of accessing the newsgroup. Reboot I rebooted my system after SeaMonkey was removed. Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey I did make this check, and no SeaMonkey was found in Program Files. Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. I reinstalled SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64 as you suggested. Make sure it is installed in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey That is where it is installed. Make it the default for mail, browser and news protocols I do not know how to make default for browser and news protocols. It is identified as default for mail. . Make sure that you profile data is found and accessible. If unsure create a new profile and copy all the old data into it. My profile was found without my involvement. FRG Here are the results---my problems in SeaMonkey have not changed. When I click on a message to open it, I see one page flash by followed by a second window… Window #1 is titled “Re: Moderated posts on News.mozilla.org (technical) – mozilla.general on news.mozilla.com – SeaMonkey” Window #2 is titled “SeaMonkey”;and it is the one that comes up, when I open my browser. I can send a message from SeaMonkey…this message does not show up in my Sent file. Again, I do thank you for your help…and, hopefully, your continued help in the future. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reddit Problem
On 6/3/2020 6:10 AM, Rodney Whack wrote: On 6/3/20 7:07 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Thomas Pamin wrote: Thomas Pamin wrote: Having trouble with https://www.reddit.com/. It only partially loads, and none of the dropdown lists at the top work. All is fine using Edge. I cleared cookies and cache. Any ideas? Also tried Safe Mode for SM, and turned off Adblock Plus. No luck either. Fixed in yesterdays 2.43.4 b1 pre. 2.53.3 Beta 1 will have the fix too. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3062022 FRG I've had the same problem. I don't recall at the moment who suggested this but, for now, I reverted to old.reddit.com. Reddit's new design is awful, slow, and bloated. :( You can also tell it to use old design in your account. Who knows how long it will stay though. :( -- ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? Make a complete Windows backup Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. Reboot Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. Make sure it is installed in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey Make it the default for mail, browser and news protocols. Make sure that you profile data is found and accessible. If unsure create a new profile and copy all the old data into it. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 32 or 64 bit
On 5/30/2020 5:34 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: JAS wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ken wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 5/28/2020 1:55 PM, JAS wrote: How does one go about telling which version of SM they have on their computer? I am using ver. 2.49.5 right now and I have read if going to a different bit when updating it is avised to uninstall first. JAS If are using Windows and you install in the default location, x32 installs in [C:\Program Files (x86)] and x64 installs in ["C:\Program Files"]. In going from x32 to x64 you will have SeaMonkey twice and there will be conflicts. For many years, however, I have been installing SeaMonkey in a non-default location that is on a drive that is NOT C. When I updated from x32 to x64, I still installed in that location. In my case, not uninstalling the older version was not necessary. The questions and answers of this thread prompted me to check my locations for SeaMonkey. I see I have a folder for SeaMonkey in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86). Apparently I am using the 64 bit location now. Is there any reason I could not simply delete the 32 bit directory?? Or is there a better way to remove the old files?? Please check Windows "Programs and Features" to see if both versions are installed. If best is to uninstall both and reinstall only the x64 version. Just deleting the x86 will leave fragments behind. If you still have anything in x86 SeaMonkey left after you uninstalled you can delete them. Might be ancient non working bundled add-ons or plugins then. FRG My Seamonkey profile is installed at: C:\Users\Margaret\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles and my SeaMonkey program is installed at: C:\Users\Margaret\AppData\Local\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe When I installed I thought I installed in the default location Looks like you did not have Admin rights when you installed it. Did you answer "no" to some security question posed by Windows? I assume you'd have to uninstall and reinstall to get past that one. With recent installations of SeaMonkey on Windows 10 I have no longer been prompted to install as administrator. I have to deliberately install from an administrator account (I suspect "run as administrator" would also work), otherwise I get a local, non-system wide installation without comment, notice, or warning. And if one accidentally gets a per-user installation and then installs as administrator, the per-user installation is not removed, and must be removed separately. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 32 or 64 bit
On 5/30/2020 5:34 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: JAS wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ken wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 5/28/2020 1:55 PM, JAS wrote: How does one go about telling which version of SM they have on their computer? I am using ver. 2.49.5 right now and I have read if going to a different bit when updating it is avised to uninstall first. JAS If are using Windows and you install in the default location, x32 installs in [C:\Program Files (x86)] and x64 installs in ["C:\Program Files"]. In going from x32 to x64 you will have SeaMonkey twice and there will be conflicts. For many years, however, I have been installing SeaMonkey in a non-default location that is on a drive that is NOT C. When I updated from x32 to x64, I still installed in that location. In my case, not uninstalling the older version was not necessary. The questions and answers of this thread prompted me to check my locations for SeaMonkey. I see I have a folder for SeaMonkey in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86). Apparently I am using the 64 bit location now. Is there any reason I could not simply delete the 32 bit directory?? Or is there a better way to remove the old files?? Please check Windows "Programs and Features" to see if both versions are installed. If best is to uninstall both and reinstall only the x64 version. Just deleting the x86 will leave fragments behind. If you still have anything in x86 SeaMonkey left after you uninstalled you can delete them. Might be ancient non working bundled add-ons or plugins then. FRG My Seamonkey profile is installed at: C:\Users\Margaret\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles and my SeaMonkey program is installed at: C:\Users\Margaret\AppData\Local\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe When I installed I thought I installed in the default location Looks like you did not have Admin rights when you installed it. Did you answer "no" to some security question posed by Windows? I assume you'd have to uninstall and reinstall to get past that one. With recent installations of SeaMonkey on Windows 10 I have no longer been prompted to install as administrator. I have to deliberately install from an administrator account (I suspect "run as administrator" would also work), otherwise I get a local, non-system wide installation without comment, notice, or warning. And if one accidentally gets a per-user installation and then installs as administrator, the per-user installation is not removed, and must be removed separately. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reddit Problem
On 6/3/20 7:07 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Thomas Pamin wrote: Thomas Pamin wrote: Having trouble with https://www.reddit.com/. It only partially loads, and none of the dropdown lists at the top work. All is fine using Edge. I cleared cookies and cache. Any ideas? Also tried Safe Mode for SM, and turned off Adblock Plus. No luck either. Fixed in yesterdays 2.43.4 b1 pre. 2.53.3 Beta 1 will have the fix too. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3062022 FRG I've had the same problem. I don't recall at the moment who suggested this but, for now, I reverted to old.reddit.com. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reddit Problem
Thomas Pamin wrote: Thomas Pamin wrote: Having trouble with https://www.reddit.com/. It only partially loads, and none of the dropdown lists at the top work. All is fine using Edge. I cleared cookies and cache. Any ideas? Also tried Safe Mode for SM, and turned off Adblock Plus. No luck either. Fixed in yesterdays 2.43.4 b1 pre. 2.53.3 Beta 1 will have the fix too. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3062022 FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reddit Problem
Thomas Pamin wrote: Having trouble with https://www.reddit.com/. It only partially loads, and none of the dropdown lists at the top work. All is fine using Edge. I cleared cookies and cache. Any ideas? Also tried Safe Mode for SM, and turned off Adblock Plus. No luck either. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Reddit Problem
Having trouble with https://www.reddit.com/. It only partially loads, and none of the dropdown lists at the top work. All is fine using Edge. I cleared cookies and cache. Any ideas? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
