Re: Chase me away?

2012-09-18 Thread WLS
JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 
 I like SeaMonkey (v2.12 under XP) but will change vendors quickly if you
 keep interrupting my preparation of an email by jamming a great big sign
 saying your wonderful thing can be upgraded. I have now turned off the
 automatic upgrade notices.
 
 I would welcome upgrade notices via email.
 
 

A third option would be to set your home page to,

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news

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Re: Can't upgrade SM to v2.12.1 from v2.12 due to its integrity? And fixes?

2012-09-11 Thread WLS
David E. Ross wrote:
 On 9/10/12 7:30 PM, WaltS wrote:
 On 09/10/2012 10:13 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 9/10/12 12:24 PM, Ant wrote:
 Hi!

 It won't let me upgrade today so far: http://i.imgur.com/y5JIu.gif and
 http://i.imgur.com/zVTLP.gif ... I wonder if it is just me (looks like
 it based in this newsgroup so far). Is there an update log somewhere for
 me to check? Also, what was fixed?

 Thank you in advance. :)


 I downloaded the partial .mar file to update incrementally from 2.12 to
 2.12.1 instead of doing a complete installation.  Using my own DOS
 script based on
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update:Manually_Installing_a_MAR_file,
 I had no problem.

 However, I cannot find any documentation on why this update was
 released.  The Release Notes and all other information applies to 2.12
 and not to 2.12.1.


 Probably because it was a Core fix to Firefox which is shared with 
 SeaMonkey. There is both a Firefox and Thunderbird 15.0.1 release.

 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787743

 
 Is that the only reason for the 2.12.1 release?  Bug #787743 is about
 Private Browsing Mode.  Does SeaMonkey have this?  If so, where is it
 documented and how do I use it?
 

As I understand it, it is a fix to the core component, which is shared
among Firefox, Thunderbird, and SeaMonkey.

Thunderbird doesn't have Private Browsing mode either, but there is a
Thunderbird 15.0.1 update.

This is what I could find about changes in SM 2.12.1.

  Fixes in 2.12.1
 
 Fixed cases where some notifications were not showing (bug 787833).
 Fixed Create Table from Selection no longer working in Composer (bug 
 787673).
 The message location could not be copied if the server protocol was snews 
 (bug 787968).
 Fixed some common crash scenarios (bug 770262, bug 780908).


http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.12/changes

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Re: Redirect to another page warning

2012-09-08 Thread WLS
keith_w wrote:
 Second request:  I'd like some help on this subject if anyone knows how to
 fix the problem.
 
 I get a warning sentence at the top of the screen that says:
 
 SeaMonkey has prevented this page from automatically redirecting to
 another page.
 
 SM Help doesn't help at all. No mention of redirect.
 
 On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:56 AM, keith_w keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 
 I cannot find in my SM Preferences where I change that selection to either
 prevent or allow redirects from one page to another.

 I Googled it, and all I could find was references to Firefox problems from
 a year or two ago. People were annoyed at the automatic prevention of
 redirections too.
 Their suggestion was to access Advance/General/Accessibility. In my SM, I
 have no such path available to me.
 Where is SM's choice located?

 I have a Mac. latest OS, SM Gecko/20120828 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12

 Please advise any suggestions. Thanks in advance.

 keith whaley


Appearance preferences  Content  Warn me when web sites try to
redirect or reload the page.

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Re: Non-Flash games interferes with keys?

2012-09-01 Thread WLS
Ant wrote:
 http://www.atari.com/arcade#!/arcade/combat/play
 
 I assume this is HTML5 based and it seems like when I hit my keys, SM
 thinks I am doing a quick find. Is there a way around this beside
 disabling this feature?
 
 Thank you in advance. :)

Use the up, down, right, and left arrow keys to move and the space bar
to shoot.

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Re: Open all in tabs, lose focus?

2012-08-28 Thread WLS

On 08/28/2012 01:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


WLS wrote:


Done the standard Restart with Add-ons Disabled to see if an extension
is causing the problem?


Will try, I rather doubt it... Here's what I have:

AdBlock Plus 2.1.2
Chatzilla 0.9.88.2
DOM Inspector 2.0.12
JavaScript Debugger 0.9.89
Russian Hunspell spellchecking dictionary 1.0.20120501

Plugins don't count, right?


OK, tried starting in safe mode, didn't make any changes permanent, but
the issue persisted.

Any other thoughts?



None, other than trying a new profile.

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Re: Can't Signup for Mozilla Persona

2012-08-27 Thread WLS

On 08/27/2012 05:59 AM, Desiree wrote:

WLS wls15...@removeyahoo.com wrote in message
news:bqmdntnobtubgkfnnz2dnuvz_gidn...@mozilla.org...

Desiree wrote:

When I go to https://login.persona.org/, even in Safe Mode, on Sea Monkey
2.11 on XP Pro, I get a mostly blank page and cannot see the signup
button.
Sometimes, I can see it just for a second, as the page loads, IF I don't
blink and page loading is slower than usual. So, I think something is
causing the button to disappear immediately. I have no idea what though.

I have the same problem with Fx 4 and Fx 10 ESR. On IE 8, I can see the
signup button, and can click on it, but then the next page where you
signup
shows only a red, horizontal line across the middle of the page.  Opera
12.01 though loves the site and the site works perfectly on it. I see the
signup button and on the next page I can signup. (Of course, I haven't
signed up as all browsers I use need to work properly at the site).






Can't help you with the IE problem, but some things to check in SM and Fx.

Do you have JavaScript enabled, or NoScript installed?


Yes, I have JavaScript enabled. I don't use NoScript. I do use the
Proxomitron BUT I do not have the files for it to filter SSL sites, thus,
Proxo is bypassed there. In case there was, somehow, still some influence
from Proxo, I went so far as to set both Fx and SM to a direct connection
but that did not make any difference as I still saw a mostly blank page.


I don't see the button when I disable JavaScript in my SeaMonkey.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.11

Why do you want to sign up? So far only the Mozilla Developer Network,
Bugzilla, and the upcoming Social feature of Firefox are using it, and I
think they have a test site.


I figured not much would be using it yet..but Mozilla is scheduling some big
hoopla about it in September and who knows some sites may signup.


Unless, you are like me, and want to test everything. It will not be
widely implemented in my lifetime. It is easy to use.


Yes, I like to test stuff and I am curious. I think it could be a good
solution to the password problems.



I somehow missed the notice about some big hoopla, or just forgot.

I think it is an excellent solution to the password problem.

Hope you solve your problem. I posted my observations, but yours seems 
caused by something else.


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Re: Open all in tabs, lose focus?

2012-08-27 Thread WLS
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Strange behavior from SM 2.11 the past few days:
 
 With the mail/news window open, if I open a blank browser window and
 from the bookmark menu, choose a group and say open all in tabs, it
 does so, but instantly switches to the mail/news window. To view the
 newly opened tabs, I need to manually switch back.
 
 I get the same behavior if I click a link in an email message -- SM
 opens the linked page, but instantly switches back to the mail/news window.
 
 Anyone else seeing this? Is there an option or setting to tell it to
 stay put, keep focus on the newly opened window?
 
 TIA
 

Not seeing it here. Has Windows had any updates recently?

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.11

Done the standard Restart with Add-ons Disabled to see if an extension
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Re: Can't Signup for Mozilla Persona

2012-08-26 Thread WLS
Desiree wrote:
 When I go to https://login.persona.org/, even in Safe Mode, on Sea Monkey 
 2.11 on XP Pro, I get a mostly blank page and cannot see the signup button. 
 Sometimes, I can see it just for a second, as the page loads, IF I don't 
 blink and page loading is slower than usual. So, I think something is 
 causing the button to disappear immediately. I have no idea what though.
 
 I have the same problem with Fx 4 and Fx 10 ESR. On IE 8, I can see the 
 signup button, and can click on it, but then the next page where you signup 
 shows only a red, horizontal line across the middle of the page.  Opera 
 12.01 though loves the site and the site works perfectly on it. I see the 
 signup button and on the next page I can signup. (Of course, I haven't 
 signed up as all browsers I use need to work properly at the site).
 
 
 
 

Can't help you with the IE problem, but some things to check in SM and Fx.

Do you have JavaScript enabled, or NoScript installed?

I don't see the button when I disable JavaScript in my SeaMonkey.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.11

Why do you want to sign up? So far only the Mozilla Developer Network,
Bugzilla, and the upcoming Social feature of Firefox are using it, and I
think they have a test site.

Unless, you are like me, and want to test everything. It will not be
widely implemented in my lifetime. It is easy to use.

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Re: Can't Signup for Mozilla Persona

2012-08-26 Thread WLS
On 08/26/2012 06:19 PM, Lemuel Johnson wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 

 Can't help you with the IE problem, but some things to check in SM and
 Fx.

 Do you have JavaScript enabled, or NoScript installed?

 I don't see the button when I disable JavaScript in my SeaMonkey.

 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1
 SeaMonkey/2.11

 Why do you want to sign up? So far only the Mozilla Developer Network,
 Bugzilla, and the upcoming Social feature of Firefox are using it, and I
 think they have a test site.

 Unless, you are like me, and want to test everything. It will not be
 widely implemented in my lifetime. It is easy to use.

 
 
 JavaScript is not the issue.  The button appears here in both the
 current SM and FF, Javascript turned on or off.
 
 The button is created entirely using new CSS3 properties, particularly
 the -moz-linear-gradient for background-image and border-radius.  I
 didn't think you could turn off just the CSS3 properties, but sounds
 like Desiree managed to do that.

When I disabled JavaScript, and restarted SeaMonkey the button did not
appear for me.

Just reporting what I saw, and here is a screenshot.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/personaj.png/

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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

2012-08-23 Thread WLS
On 08/23/2012 08:23 AM, Daniel wrote:
 Dan B. wrote:
 »Q« wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:45:42 -0700
 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote:

 On 08/10/2012 08:41 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:
 ...
 Try using Google as your friend.  Enter SeaMonkey in lower case,
 upper case, or mixed case; only the letter spelling will count, and
 then maybe not.
 Are you serious?

 Never mind, I reckon you are. Thanks for playing anyway.

 IMO, it's the best reply yet.  ISTM that's what the overwhelming
 majority of new or prospective SeaMonkey users will do, not dry to
 drill down to it from mozilla.org's front page.

 That only applies to users who already know they want SeaMonkey.

 What about the people who don't know about SeaMonkey but might choose
 to use it if, in looking for Firefox and/or Thunderbird, see SeaMonkey
 listed as sibling product?


 (By the way, earlier today I tried to find SeaMonkey by starting
 at mozilla.org and wondered why it was so damn hard to find SeaMonkey.)



   Would talking the people in
 charge of Mozilla's main portals into featuring SeaMonkey more
 prominently there really help the project at this point?

 I don't know that it would help much, but it would almost certainly
 help some.

 Daniel
 
 Some would suggest that Mozilla.org would not display SeaMonkey
 prominently because Mozilla don't produce/develop it. I wonder if
 Mozilla will now (or after V16) de-list Thunderbird, as they will be
 stopping development of it, and just link to it as a contributed product
 (or whatever), as they do for SeaMonkey??
 

It may join the list of Mozilla based products found here.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/projects/mozilla-based/ which is from the
link in, See even more awesome software based on Mozilla
technologies., found near the bottom of
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/


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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

2012-08-23 Thread WLS
On 08/23/2012 08:52 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 WLS wrote:
 
 See even more awesome software based on Mozilla technologies.
 
 Awesome ?  Do Mozilla copywriters have any idea what awe really
 is, or do they just use hyperbole in the hopes that there will be
 at least one person in the world stupid enough to believe them ?
 
 Philip Taylor

I was just looking over the awesome software based on Mozilla
technologies, and came across an email application called Zimbra
Desktop, and had to try it.

Looks nice for an email only application.



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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

2012-08-23 Thread WLS
On 08/23/2012 01:21 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 David E. Ross wrote:
 
 How do I get to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/ from the home
 page at http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/?
 
 I find that clicking on the word Products has the desired effect.
 Philip Taylor

WFM :)

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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

2012-08-23 Thread WLS
On 08/23/2012 03:43 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 David E. Ross wrote:
 
 When I go to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/, I get the page displayed
 as shown at http://www.rossde.com/test/www.mozilla.org-1.jpg.  Note
 that the vertical scrollbar in the image is to the top.  Nothing is
 hidden above what you see.
 
 Whereas what I see is at :
 
 
 http://philip-taylor.org/Resources/Images/Screen-Captures/Fullscreen%20capture%2023082012%20203329.jpg
 
 
 (sorry about the spaces : Picasa artifact).
 
 But as you can see in both, Mozilla is proudly Different by design,
 so perhaps they serve a different page to each and every visitor ...
 
 P.S. No, I am visiting the en-US site, not a local variant thereof.
 
 Philip Taylor

Seeing the same as you Phillip, and you beat me to posting a screenshot.

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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

2012-08-23 Thread WLS
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 WLS wrote:
 
 Seeing the same as you Phillip, and you beat me to posting a screenshot.
 
 Effect of UA override, perhaps ?
 
 general.useragent.override : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0)
 Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11
 
 Philip Taylor

Well, I was testing it with Firefox, but see the same page using SeaMonkey.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.11

If you are not aware of SeaMonkey, it would be kind of hard to be using
it to open mozilla.org.

ymmv

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Re: Seamonkey not liked by Intel

2012-08-19 Thread WLS
On 08/19/2012 01:08 PM, Russ Fineman wrote:
 Paul wrote:
 MCBastos wrote:
 (snip)
 I think we are being victims of ourselves here: the new,
 compatibility-friendly user-agent string is making our share in browser
 usage stats be assigned to Firefox.

 I bet you are correct.
 I did not have any problems with the Intel website,
 most likely due to my spoofing:

 SeaMonkey 1.1.19
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24)
 Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 Like Firefox/3.0
 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Firefox/2.0.0.24  Firefox/9.0.1

 Where do you change the browser ID. I went into about:config but found
 no parameter with the browser ID. Also the help file found nothing on
 searching browser id.
 
 A pointer where its at would help?
 
 Thanks
 

Do you just want to disable Firefox compatibility, or make a change, and
why?

Disabling Firefox compatibility can be found in Advanced preferences,
under HTTP Networking  User Agent String. Just remove the check from
the box.

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Re: Seamonkey not liked by Intel

2012-08-19 Thread WLS
On 08/19/2012 08:47 PM, Russ Fineman wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 On 08/19/2012 01:20 PM, WLS wrote:
 On 08/19/2012 01:08 PM, Russ Fineman wrote:

 snip


 Where do you change the browser ID. I went into about:config but found
 no parameter with the browser ID. Also the help file found nothing on
 searching browser id.

 A pointer where its at would help?

 Thanks


 Do you just want to disable Firefox compatibility, or make a change, and
 why?

 Disabling Firefox compatibility can be found in Advanced preferences,
 under HTTP Networking  User Agent String. Just remove the check from
 the box.


 You can also install User Agent Switcher, and spoof other browsers, or
 create a UA of your own.

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/user-agent-switcher/

 It will install in SeaMonkey 2.11, just click the + Add to SeaMonkey
 button, then the Install Anyway button.

 There is an option to create your own UA with that extension.

 Use with caution, and backup your profile first.

 This switcher would be more what I'm looking for. I am used to Konqueror
 where I can do this in settings.
 
 Just tried link: Get message:
 
 Code:
 --
 Not available for SeaMonkey 2.11?
 
 This add-on is not compatible with your version of SeaMonkey because of
 the following:
 
 You need to be using Firefox 10.0 or higher.
 
 /Code
 My firefox install is 14.0.1.
 Code
 -
 openSUSE 12.2 RC2
 KDE 4.8.4 Release 2
 Seamoney Version 2.11
 
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0)
 Gecko/20120713 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11
 
 /Code
 
 
 i was just going to add the konqueror UA for the Intel site. It does not
 get the error.
 
 Thanks for your response. I'll keep an eye on the awitcher for an update.
 

Installed in my SeaMonkey just fine using the Install Anyway button.

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717
Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

However I see you are using the RC2 of openSUSE, so I don't know what is
going on there.

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Re: [triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed

2012-08-18 Thread WLS

Philip Chee wrote:

Anyone else experience this problem?

Phil



I just tried it with the bug page, and sent from my Yahoo account to my 
AIM account without a problem.


Then I reset the about:config setting I changed for the SeaMonkey not 
liked by Intel problem, and tried another page, again with no problem.


Sent messages are not showing up in my Yahoo sent folder.

But I'm not a Windows user so this probably doesn't help.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1 
SeaMonkey/2.11

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Re: Seamonkey not liked by Intel

2012-08-18 Thread WLS

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



WLS wrote:


FWIW, I went into about:config and removed ${AppBuildID} from the
nightly.templates.buildid preference, and didn't get that message
afterwards.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.11


No such option in my about:config (not surprising, since I score about
0.99 on a risk-averse scale) but no corresponding option under anything
other than nightly as well ...

Philip Taylor


Interesting. Nothing with ${AppBuildID}? Then I don't know where that 
preference came from.


Try this (backup profile first);

set general.useragent.override to Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11


I know you are not going to find that pref, you have to create it.

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Re: Seamonkey not liked by Intel

2012-08-18 Thread WLS
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 WLS wrote:
 
 Interesting. Nothing with ${AppBuildID}? Then I don't know where that
 preference came from.
 
 Nothing matching buildid at all.

 Try this (backup profile first);

 set general.useragent.override to Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0)
 Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

 I know you are not going to find that pref, you have to create it.
 
 Done.  Intel him say You fine number one browser; Intel him like.
 
 Philip Taylor

LOL! Glad that works, and I didn't screw up your SeaMonkey (for that site).

Meanwhile I created a new profile, and the nightly preference isn't
there, so I must have been using one I created for a Nightly version.

The hazards of running too many browsers, and email apps.

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Personas and Modern Theme don't work together

2012-08-18 Thread WLS
I really think that some of the personas would look good with the
SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme.

Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme?

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Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together

2012-08-18 Thread WLS
On 08/18/2012 01:23 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
 On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote:
 I really think that some of the personas would look good with the
 SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme.

 Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme?
 
 There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme.
 Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension
 but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include
 fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme
 Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a
 Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via
 Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the
 Persona will show through.
 
 Phil
 

Thanks for the reply. I may look into this further. Smooth Slate isn't
too bad with the Default theme.

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Re: Personas and Modern Theme don't work together

2012-08-18 Thread WLS
On 08/18/2012 03:11 PM, Sailfish wrote:
 My bloviated meandering follows what Philip Chee graced us with on
 8/18/2012 10:23 AM:
 On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:10:35 -0400, WLS wrote:
 I really think that some of the personas would look good with the
 SeaMonkey Modern theme, but they only work with the classic theme.

 Anyone know how I could get them to work with the modern theme?

 There is a Firefox extension that lets you use personas with any theme.
 Can't remember what it's called. You can also do it without an extension
 but it requires several steps which I can never remember but include
 fiddling with about:config entries. Somewhere in the Mozillazine Theme
 Development forum is a thread on how to do this. I've managed to get a
 Persona working with Modern once but you need additional styles (via
 Stylish or userChrome.css) to make e.g. the toolbars transparent so the
 Persona will show through.

 Persona Switcher should work:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightweight-theme-switcher
 

Thanks! I'll play with it, and see if I can get it to work, since it is
Not available for Firefox 2.11.

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Re: Some advice ?

2012-08-18 Thread WLS
On 08/18/2012 09:49 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Ed Mullen wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Ed Mullen wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Ed Mullen wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 I am running Seamonkey 2.7.
 My Yahoo.mail refuses to retain the Theme I choose.
 Tried a Google Search and found many, many people have this
 same problem, so it is not confined only to SeaMonkey.

 Does anyone have a suggestion as to what to do ?

 Here it comes !

 DoctorBill

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 and they are of about the same magnitude...

 The usual advice ...

 Clear cookies and allow cookies from yahooo.


 I hate messing about with the Cookies !
 Every time I clear the cookies, bad things happen.

 I have NoScripts 2.5 and allowed all of the Yahoo Mail site to
 load -
 to no avail.

 I think this problem stems from YahooMail's site, not mine, since
 so many web links ask about this same thing. PITA.

 In any case, where are the cookies stored. This SM 2.7 doesn't
 seem to
 do what all the older ones did with cookies and I knew a little bit
 about the older versions. Now I am lost.

 Is there a way to figure out WHICH cookie controls the 'Theme' ?
 Assuming I can find it !

 I APPRECIATE THE HELP !

 DoctorBill


 More Googling found this reply about the Theme retention.

 http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/914606

 Theme is retained in IE but not Firefox.
 Is this guy's answer related to (or translatable to) SeaMonkey 2.7 in
 any way ?

 DoctorBill



 Yes, he's basically saying Allow Yahoo to set cookies and set Firefox
 to not delete them when you close the browser. Applies to SM too.



 As far as I can see, I am allowing cookies to be set by any site !

 I sent Yahoo Help this question and they actually answered !
 Here is their answer - go to this site:
 http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contentid=SLN3223actp=supportlocale=en_USy=PROD_MAIL_MLi=3wAqtzjiM3o76cfDf7u0Cg==





 OMGjust to change THEMES ?!

 Is this called poor programming or what ?

 DoctorBill



 But ... it doesn't say anything about themes!

 I have a Yahoo email but never use it. For the heck of it I logged in
 (using SeaMonkey), changes the theme, logged out. When I logged back in
 the theme change had stuck.

 Yahoo sets a lot of cookies. I deleted them all, logged back in and the
 theme was still there.

 Just for yucks I logged in using Firefox, where I wipe cookies when the
 program exits. Theme still set.

 Not sure what to say at this point.


 OK...something in your SM (2.7?) is set differently than in mine.

 Any idea what setting in SM would cause that effect ?

 I have NoScript running (but allowing everything) and AdBlock Plus and
 PrefBar.

 DoctorBill



 
 More ODD Behaviorset Green Flowers Theme in SM.
 Reloaded - went back to Black Default.
 
 Opened IE (Ugh!) - went to Yahoo Mail and it came up with Green Flowers!
 
 So the Theme is being stored with Yahoo because it came up in IE after
 it was set in SM 2.7.
 
 This is something to do with SeaMonkey !
 
 Some Sherlock Holmesian investigations..
 
 Set theme in SM and Immediately looked at the Profile Subdir.
 These files were reset at the exact time I reset the theme - sorted by
 time.
 panacea.dat
 cookies.sqlite
 sessionstore.json
 
 I looked, but too much jibberish for me to find what changes the THEME
 in Yahoo Mail.
 
 Still - why would reloading kill the theme I set ?
 
 DoctorBill

Are you clicking the I'm Done button on the Yahoo page after you have
selected a theme?

Reloading defaults back to the theme I had originally set, if I don't
click the I'm Done button. If I click the button, the changed theme
appears in SeaMonkey, all my Firefox versions, Chrome, and Opera.

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Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen, crashing in FF, SM)

2012-08-14 Thread WLS
On 08/14/2012 08:14 AM, Joe Rotello wrote:
 On 8/14/2012 6:55 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:
 
 Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen
   crashingin FF, SM
 
 
 With all this discussion of stopping PHP from working, I scratch my head.
 
 My main point was relating the Flash Plug-In crashing in many current FF
 and SM installations, and what was discussed with Adobe staffers
 regarding Flash 11.
 
 We have seen this disable of one, some or all of the mentioned
 standards, Flash, PHP, JavaScript, even Java, happen, was the point, but
 I have no wish or predilection for such to be done, as web havoc with
 a side-order of user fearanoia always ensues.
 
 My quite minor point was that ANY web standard...be it Flash, PHP,
 JavaScript, even Java, etc. can be disabled at one or more points,
 that's all, hence I mentioned it as a side-note to the Flash Plug-In
 crashing in many current FF and SM installations.
 
 Joe

Sorry Joe, in a previous post you said PHP could be disabled in the
browser. I just wanted to know how you accomplished that, or how I
prevent the server from executing that PHP in the web page, when I
access it.

In other words, prove your point.

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Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen crashing in FF, SM)

2012-08-13 Thread WLS
On 08/13/2012 08:22 AM, Joe Rotello wrote:
 On 8/13/2012 6:52 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:

 Joe Rotello wrote:

 JR Personal Reflection Bottom line: End-users who fully and
 intentionally disable the likes of Flash plug-in, PHP, Java and even
 JavaScript browser operations are in reality doing more to damage
 their browser operations and shut themselves out of a great many needful
 and useful web-sites world-wide. Many users who do the above and walk
 away from those options then wonder why a great many web-sites and pages
 no longer work or display properly, then start suspecting the browser or
 the OS, etc.

 Whilst I have a /certain/ (but by no means unequivocal) sympathy with
 your position, I am completely at a loss to know how a user might seek
 to disable ... PHP.  PHP is a server-side technology, just like
 ASP and ASP.NET; how can this possibly be disabled client-side ?

 I would also argue that the vast majority of those who do the above
 and walk away from those options do not wonder why a great many
 web-sites and pages no longer work or display properly -- they know
 why, and they are prepared to live with this in order to satisfy their
 own security concerns and/or paranoia.
 
 Like it or not, in many modern browsers, esp. those allowing access to
 about all the settings, one can disrupt PHP operations, essentially
 switching PHP execution off. Can be done in FF, for example, have seen
 it accomplished in the OS with Internet Explorer, etc.
 
 Thankfully, people do NOT usually do this, nor should they, yet it can
 be terribly exciting to troubleshoot a bad web experience and find out
 that this kind of PHP disabling has been done.
 
 Yes, indeed, I tend to agree that many of those who do the above know
 full well, or believe they do, of what they are doing, so PHP failures
 or web-disasters should not come as a surprise to them.
 
 Joe

OK, I will bite.

Since PHP execution is done on the Server side (Apache, NGINX, etc.),
not the Client (Firefox, SeaMonkey, etc.). How does one go about
switching PHP execution off in the browser?

I already checked about:config in Firefox, and see no such preference.

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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-09 Thread WLS

On 08/09/2012 07:51 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

WLS wrote:


What I don't get is people that can't comprehend the links I provide for
them to read, so I will quote,

Since we have no one stepping up at the moment to maintain this for 5
years, I think it makes the most sense to remove it from precise. We can
always backport from later releases if someone volunteers to help with
this.

and

Changed in seamonkey (Ubuntu Precise):
milestone: none → ubuntu-12.04

In other words they don't package it anymore. Download and install it
manually, or install Firefox.



I understood it just fine, but it was not applicable.  Your links were
referring to the official Ubuntu software repository, NOT Ubuntuzilla. I
already discovered I couldn't get Seamonkey from the repository. Someone
in this newsgroup (I forget who) pointed me to Ubuntuzilla, and that
worked fine up until this latest release.



I must have missed that post, but speculate that the Ubuntuzilla 
repository, just gets SeaMonkey from the official Ubuntu reposittory in 
one way or another, thus the reason it is missing.


Switch to Fedora 17, it is in there.

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Re: image display in flickr or facebook

2012-08-09 Thread WLS

On 08/09/2012 11:57 AM, sean nathan wrote:

image display has become so bad in Seamonkey that i rarely use SM as my
preferred browser anymore... one can't just browse the photos in flickr
w/o having to select all sizes before one can see any photo
... perversely in faceboo if one clicks on a photo to enlarge it and see
the commentary one only gets to see a black space

i've disabled all of my addons

now i'm a linux user... so now that adobe is no longer supporting linux
is this something i need to consider?

SRWare Iron displays everything w/no problem...

sean



Had no problem browsing the Explore section of Flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/explore/

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1 
SeaMonkey/2.11


Don't go near Facebook, so I can't test it.

Adobe is continuing security updates for Linux for 5 years.

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Re: image display in flickr or facebook

2012-08-09 Thread WLS

On 08/09/2012 07:52 PM, sean nathan wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 08/09/2012 04:07 PM:



Hartmut Figge wrote:


I do not see 'all sizes' on that page. But i may be blind. ;)


More likely, not looking unde Actions.


thanks phillip, they've changed the drop down menus lately... actions
then all sizes...

but i shouldn't have to do that...

there's no photo showing where it should be...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/casoulbyrd/4501943062/in/photosof-casoulbyrd/

i just see the thumbnails to the right, scrolling thru them just give me
more blank white photospace... i just disabled the shockwave flash
plugins and clicked on the check to see if your plugins are up to date:


For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Java.
Please upgrade to the latest version.


okay... have downloaded the/jre-7u5-linux-x64.tar.gz now... being a
relative linux n00b, where does one unpack the tar.gz to exactly?

sean






Don't need Java for this. Do you have Load all images selected in your 
Privacy and Security  Images preferences?


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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread WLS

On 08/07/2012 09:54 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, figuring that would pull the 2.11
files, but no luck... it still pulls the 2.10.1 files.



This might explain why.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2511095

and

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/987713

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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread WLS

On 08/08/2012 06:04 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

WLS wrote:

On 08/07/2012 09:54 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, figuring that would pull the 2.11
files, but no luck... it still pulls the 2.10.1 files.



This might explain why.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=2511095

and

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/987713



What I don't understand is that, using Ubuntuzilla, I had no problems
installing 2.9.  When 2.10 came out, that also installed quickly with no
problems.  Same for 2.10.1.  Now that 2.11 is out, there's nothing there.

I've dumped it (for now) and installed Chrome instead.  Of course, now I
have the other problem of trying to figure out how to import the
bookmarks, since Chrome only recognizes Firefox...




What I don't get is people that can't comprehend the links I provide for 
them to read, so I will quote,


Since we have no one stepping up at the moment to maintain this for 5 
years, I think it makes the most sense to remove it from precise. We can 
always backport from later releases if someone volunteers to help with 
this.


and

Changed in seamonkey (Ubuntu Precise):
milestone:  none → ubuntu-12.04

In other words they don't package it anymore. Download and install it 
manually, or install Firefox.


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Re: Still not getting 2.11 under Ubuntuzilla

2012-08-08 Thread WLS

On 08/08/2012 07:41 PM, »Q« wrote:

On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:11:50 -0400
WLS wls15...@removeyahoo.com wrote:


On 08/08/2012 06:04 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:



What I don't understand is that, using Ubuntuzilla, I had no
problems installing 2.9.  When 2.10 came out, that also installed
quickly with no problems.  Same for 2.10.1.  Now that 2.11 is out,
there's nothing there.


[snip]


Changed in seamonkey (Ubuntu Precise):
milestone:  none → ubuntu-12.04

In other words they don't package it anymore. Download and install it
manually, or install Firefox.


That means it's not in Ubuntu's official repositories for 12.04 any
more, but Ubuntuzilla is a third-party repository.

Jaime, nobody here follows Ubuntuzilla.  Their support forum is
http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=251, and the guy who does
the packaging is active there.



Thanks for that clarification.
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Re: youtube not working

2012-08-05 Thread WLS
On 08/05/2012 03:57 PM, Dave and Colette Hirsh wrote:
 http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzcaYsG2nYqUsa=Uei=YCoTUJ7rDtSzqQGqlIDADgved=0CBsQtwIwAgusg=AFQjCNES9SdICWKLGxgSDMiEdDJfQBwDHA
 
 
 For those who want to know a url that does not work in seamonkey it is
 the one above.
 
 Dave
 

Works fine here.

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Re: SeaMonkey + Firefox installation on same PC = conflicts?

2012-08-05 Thread WLS
On 08/05/2012 04:45 PM, George Carden wrote:
 I am wanting to install a totally independent version of an older
 Firefox browser in order to be able to use extensions that are
 incompatible with SeaMonkey V 2.11 (such as Greasemonkey) for a handful
 of tasks. (IE: I want to wipe my Facebook wall clean, and I need
 Greasemonkey to do this with the app I think I want to use;
 http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/97794 )
 
 Is there anything I should be aware of as for fouling up my SeaMonkey by
 doing this?
 
 Thanks,
 George

SeaMonkey and Firefox are totally separate applications, and use totally
separate profiles, so you should have no problems.

Always backup your profile as a precaution.

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Re: SeaMonkey and Winamp

2012-08-05 Thread WLS
On 08/05/2012 05:23 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/5/12 12:12 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:

 Windows XP SP3
 SeaMonkey 2.11
 Winamp 5.6.3

 When I have Winamp installed in [C:\Program Files\Winamp\], I have no
 trouble launching it and playing a streaming broadcast from a link on a
 Web page.

 When I have Winamp installed in its own [C:\Winamp\], I get an error
 popup for .m3u and .pl links; but it still works okay for .pls links.
 For the link http://kuscstream.org/mp3/kusc128.m3u, the error popup says:
 C:\DOCUME~\User\LOCALS~1\Temp\kusc128.m3u could not be opened,
 because the associated helper application does not exist.
 Change the association in your preferences.
 I do not see any reference to .mu3 or .pl files in Helper Applications.

 Windows file associations -- including m3u and pl -- all correctly point
 to [C:\Winamp\winamp.exe].  All Windows registry values also point to
 the correct path to winamp.exe.

 How can I fix this?

 I've seen this occasionally with various applications, nothing peculiar 
 to WinAmp. If SeaMonkey lists no helper app, you can resolve this by 
 giving it the guidance it needs. It's basically saying, I don't know 
 which app to launch to view this file.

 Most commonly this happens when you upgrade your app or install a 
 competing one and SM loses track of where to look. You probably do have 
 an M3U association (click Content Type at top to alphabetize the 
 list). Click and update the action, you should be fine. You may have to 
 change it to something you don't want and then change it back; in that 
 case, Always ask is a good choice.

 
 Okay.  I was able to use your advice and fix SeaMonkey for .mu3 links.
 This required using LiveHTTPHeaders to see what MIME type was sent by
 the link (audio/x-mpegurl) and then updating the Helper Application
 entry for that MIME type as you indicated.  Thanks.
 
 The only .pl link that I was using
 http://www.wqed.org/cgi-bin/fm/billboard_rotate.pl seems defunct.
 KQED now seems to broadcast only to Flash.  This requires that I keep a
 browser window open without changing profiles, a PITA.  Thus, I cannot
 tell if your advice would work for MIME type video/x-ms-asf when the
 only related Helper Application is video/x-ms-asf-plugin.
 
 Is there a way to add new MIME types to Helper Applications?
 

Does this help?

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol

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Re: SeaMonkey and Winamp

2012-08-05 Thread WLS
On 08/05/2012 06:29 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/5/12 2:38 PM, WLS wrote:
 On 08/05/2012 05:23 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/5/12 12:12 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:

 Windows XP SP3
 SeaMonkey 2.11
 Winamp 5.6.3

 When I have Winamp installed in [C:\Program Files\Winamp\], I have no
 trouble launching it and playing a streaming broadcast from a link on a
 Web page.

 When I have Winamp installed in its own [C:\Winamp\], I get an error
 popup for .m3u and .pl links; but it still works okay for .pls links.
 For the link http://kuscstream.org/mp3/kusc128.m3u, the error popup 
 says:
   C:\DOCUME~\User\LOCALS~1\Temp\kusc128.m3u could not be opened,
   because the associated helper application does not exist.
   Change the association in your preferences.
 I do not see any reference to .mu3 or .pl files in Helper Applications.

 Windows file associations -- including m3u and pl -- all correctly point
 to [C:\Winamp\winamp.exe].  All Windows registry values also point to
 the correct path to winamp.exe.

 How can I fix this?

 I've seen this occasionally with various applications, nothing peculiar 
 to WinAmp. If SeaMonkey lists no helper app, you can resolve this by 
 giving it the guidance it needs. It's basically saying, I don't know 
 which app to launch to view this file.

 Most commonly this happens when you upgrade your app or install a 
 competing one and SM loses track of where to look. You probably do have 
 an M3U association (click Content Type at top to alphabetize the 
 list). Click and update the action, you should be fine. You may have to 
 change it to something you don't want and then change it back; in that 
 case, Always ask is a good choice.


 Okay.  I was able to use your advice and fix SeaMonkey for .mu3 links.
 This required using LiveHTTPHeaders to see what MIME type was sent by
 the link (audio/x-mpegurl) and then updating the Helper Application
 entry for that MIME type as you indicated.  Thanks.

 The only .pl link that I was using
 http://www.wqed.org/cgi-bin/fm/billboard_rotate.pl seems defunct.
 KQED now seems to broadcast only to Flash.  This requires that I keep a
 browser window open without changing profiles, a PITA.  Thus, I cannot
 tell if your advice would work for MIME type video/x-ms-asf when the
 only related Helper Application is video/x-ms-asf-plugin.

 Is there a way to add new MIME types to Helper Applications?


 Does this help?

 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol

 
 It was not the protocol, which is HTTP.  It was the MIME type that was
 the problem.  I know how to add new file types in Windows, but I don't
 know how to add new MIME types to Helper Applications in SeaMonkey.
 
 Fortunately, my problem with .m3u file types is now resolved.  These use
 the audio/x-mpegurl MIME type.  I merely changed the entry in Helper
 Applications for that MIME type to Always ask and the changed it back
 to Winamp.
 
 My problem with the .pl file type will require some action by WQED
 (incorrectly given in my earlier reply as KQED).  WQED now apparently
 streams only to Flash.
 

I see what you mean about WQED.

I used to be able to copy the link, and open the stream in my VLC
player. Now I have the choice of WQED-FM 89.3 Live Stream, or Pittsburgh
Concert Channel. Both open a small new browser window, which I can
minimize, but have to keep the browser open if I want to listen.

Grrr!

At least the Pittsburgh Jazz Channel still works right.

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Re: Problem with Netflix.com website

2012-08-01 Thread WLS
On 08/01/2012 09:48 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
 Are any other SM users having problems with the Netflix site?
 
 In the last month or two, I've lost the ability to drill down past
 the initial search results page for TV series. When I click the
 Choose or Choose Discs button, I now get kicked back to a summary
 page for that show, with no details whatever. It still works properly
 in IE, and on one of my SM computers but not on the others.
 

Nope.

Clear cache, clear cookies, try again.

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Re: Olympics on the Web

2012-07-28 Thread WLS
On 07/28/2012 07:17 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 Has anyone in the U.S. been able to view NBC's live streaming broadcasts
 of the Olympics on the Web from
 http://www.nbcolympics.com/sports/index.html?
 
 No matter what sport I select, I get a page with the Olympics 2012/NBC
 logo on the right and a blank frame on the left.  When I try to report
 this, NBC's Help/Contact page insists that I have the wrong CAPTCHA
 number.
 
 Windows XP SP3
 SeaMonkey 2.11 but spoofing Firefox 14.0.1
 Flash 11.3 r300(268) (FlashBlock disabled)
 Cookies accepted from ALL sources
 Images accepted from ALL sources
 AdBlock Plus disabled
 JavaScript enabled
 Broadband connection via Time Warner Cable (RoadRunner)
 
 No, I'm not using Advertise Firefox compatibility.  Instead, my UA
 string is
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1
 

I'm not a subscriber to any of the required premium cable services.

If I wanted to watch an event, I could probably find it as a torrent.

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Re: 2.11 on Ubuntuzilla when?

2012-07-26 Thread WLS
On 07/26/2012 07:07 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 Francesco Presel wrote:
 On my computer (64 bit; Kubuntu precise) version 2.11 has been available
 for days now (it's called seamonkey-mozilla-build)

 Cruz, Jaime ha scritto:
 I've been checking ever since 2.11 installed on my Windows partition,
 and so far I haven't found it.  2.10.1 came up at the same time as it
 did on Windows, so I'm wondering what might be the delay?


 I have the 32-bit version of Precise Pangolin.  When I sent this message
 this morning, it was still not showing up.  I'll try again later this
 evening.

 
 Still nothing.  Any ideas??
 

The maintainer for Ubuntu hasn't created the package yet, would be mine.
Ask Ubuntu.

I install manually on openSUSE, because their package maintainer takes
his time. Had to wait 2 weeks for Firefox 13.0, never saw 13.0.1, and 1
week for Firefox 14.0.1.

Still no Thunderbird 14.0, or SeaMonkey 2.11 available.

If and when they become available, I may or may not install through the
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SeaMonkey 2.11 not importing IE Favorites

2012-07-23 Thread WLS
A user emailed me about SeaMonkey 2.11 not automatically importing IE 
Favorites, but it worked in previous versions.


The Help file states;

About Your IE Favourites

Your IE Favourites are imported automatically. To access them, open the
Bookmarks menu and choose Imported IE Favourites.

Has this function been removed?
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Re: Installing and using Firefox only extensions in SeaMonkey v2.11+?

2012-07-22 Thread WLS
On 07/22/2012 09:10 PM, Ant wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Is there a way to force those Firefox only extensions like
 http://www.addthis.com/browser-extensions to install and work?
 
 Thank you in advance. :)

have you tried installing it from AMO?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/addthis/

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Re: Installing and using Firefox only extensions in SeaMonkey v2.11+?

2012-07-22 Thread WLS
On 07/22/2012 09:53 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 7/22/2012 6:33 PM PT, WLS typed:
 
 On 07/22/2012 09:10 PM, Ant wrote:
 Hi!

 Is there a way to force those Firefox only extensions like
 http://www.addthis.com/browser-extensions to install and work?

 Thank you in advance. :)

 have you tried installing it from AMO?

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/addthis/
 
 Yeah, it failed since it said it was incompatible during a forced
 installation. :(

Probably because it doesn't have SeaMonkey targetApplication code.

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Re: how do i send a link???

2012-07-21 Thread WLS
On 07/19/2012 06:19 PM, The Biggest Irishman n the Valley wrote:
 ... i have a pic on my desktop. when i right clik on it there is no
 'send link' option???

Don't know what this has to do with SeaMonkey, but when I opposite click
on a pic on my desktop, I get a Send as Email Attachment menu item,
which opens my email app when I click on it.

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Re: Build ID in Window bar?..

2012-07-20 Thread WLS

Rufus wrote:

Ok - I went and grabbed a nightly build to verify a bug for a bug
report, and then went back to SM 2.11.  (Mac versions)

Now I have page title - Seamonkey {Build ID: blah, blah} in my window
bar of the Browser (only) even though About Seamonkey shows I have
2.11 installed.

How do I get rid of it?  And remind me not to do it again...



Check to see if you have the SeaMonkey Debug and QA UI 1.0pre extension. 
If so disable or remove it.

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Re: Seamonkey Composer

2012-07-18 Thread WLS
On 07/17/2012 02:49 PM, Allen Lanphear wrote:
 Hey Folks,
  
 Recently I purchased Scott Mitchell's book, Create You Own Website, in which 
 he supplied a CD with Seamonkey suite and instructions how to build my own 
 website. 
  
 Before I killed the application by switching to Windows 7 from Vista, things 
 were starting out fine. What I mean is: what happened to Seamonkey Composer?
  
 Help! I am drowning in tech-talk and confusion (not always the same thing, 
 right?).
  
 Please send help.
  
 Thank you for whatever you can do,
  
 Allen Lanphear
 (Wannabe Web Developer)
 

As another wannabe, I would recommend throwing that book away, and
purchasing, HTML5 Developer's Cookbook by Chuck Hudson and Tom
Ledbetter, and HTML5-CSS3-Visual-QuickStart-Guide by Elizabeth Castro,
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Re: SeaMonkey Lighting - Individual Window

2012-07-18 Thread WLS
On 07/18/2012 06:55 PM, ruaraidhpet...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I ask, does anyone know how to open the Lighting extension in an individual 
 window
  - working within SeaMonkey???
 
 I'd appreciate being able to do this.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ruaraidh
 

A lot off people would like to be able to do it. Unfortunately it can
not be done.
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Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.

2012-07-16 Thread WLS

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and
find out what is using up the memory!

Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown.
Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related
to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features
that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in
2.0.14)

If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can
identify odd there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning:
if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames
which use memory)


Verbose results:

Main Process



Snip about:memory read-out

What does inner-window(id= followed by what looks like a website
address mean?? Are these indications of the tabs that Ant had open??

If so, well, I gave up counting after about 150 inner-window's (I'm
guessing about 600 tabs total!!), so I would guessany wonder Ant's
SM is using so much memory!!



I have 16 inner-windows listed in about memory, and only about:memory 
loaded, but looking at the other URL's in his Verbose Results they 
probably are tabs.


The 11 http://nerdapproved.com pages all appear to be the same content. 
I didn't open them all, just random samples


Stopped counting at 12 YouTube pages.

My memory usage is,

Explicit Allocations
227.05 MB (100.0%) ++  -- explicit

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Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.

2012-07-16 Thread WLS
On 07/15/2012 02:55 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:
 
 Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and
 find out what is using up the memory!

 Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown.
 Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related
 to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features
 that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in
 2.0.14)

 If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can
 identify odd there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning:
 if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames
 which use memory)
 
 Verbose results:
 
 Main Process
 
 Explicit Allocations
 1,191,068,833 B (100.0%) ++  -- explicit


the hardly ever ending snip

 I closed a bunch to avoid the sensitive ones and memory usages went down
 a bit. Must be too many tabs/web pages I guess? ;)

Looks like it!

At the very bottom of about:memory there are several buttons, Update GC,
CC, and Minimize memory usage. Click on the Minimize memory usage
button, and Update, that will clean up your memory a bit.

If I understand correctly the Minimize memory usage button, does the
same thing as a GC followed by a CC, 3 times.

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Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.

2012-07-16 Thread WLS
On 07/16/2012 11:30 AM, Daniel wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Daniel wrote:
 Ant wrote:
 On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:

 Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and
 find out what is using up the memory!

 Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown.
 Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be
 related
 to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features
 that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in
 2.0.14)

 If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you
 can
 identify odd there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning:
 if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows
 hostnames
 which use memory)

 Verbose results:

 Main Process


 Snip about:memory read-out

 What does inner-window(id= followed by what looks like a website
 address mean?? Are these indications of the tabs that Ant had open??

 If so, well, I gave up counting after about 150 inner-window's (I'm
 guessing about 600 tabs total!!), so I would guessany wonder Ant's
 SM is using so much memory!!


 I have 16 inner-windows listed in about memory, and only about:memory
 loaded, but looking at the other URL's in his Verbose Results they
 probably are tabs.

 The 11 http://nerdapproved.com pages all appear to be the same content.
 I didn't open them all, just random samples

 Stopped counting at 12 YouTube pages.

 My memory usage is,

 Explicit Allocations
 227.05 MB (100.0%) ++  -- explicit

 
 I thought approx 600 tabs was getting a bit strange,
 
 My memory usage (for three tabs + about:memory tab) 191.86 MB (100.0%)
 -- explicit
 
 Interesting.as I said I have three tabs + about:memory tab open, but
 nowhere in the structure do I see the listings for the three active tabs
 I do have open...but I do see information for a tab (i.e. web
 address!!) which I closed a while ago, even after re-loading the
 about:memory tab!!
 
 So no listing of open, active tabs but listing for previously closed
 tab!! I understandNot!.
 

Did you try the Minimize memory usage, and Update buttons at the bottom
of about:memory.
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Re: No sorting in entered keywords for newsgroups list?

2012-07-15 Thread WLS
On 07/15/2012 12:30 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 7/15/2012 1:59 AM PT, Daniel typed:
 
 Is it me or does the listed newsgroups list, with keywords, does not
 show in alphabetical order? :( Thank you in advance. :)

 Sorry, what listed newsgroups list are you talking about??
 
 See my screen shot/capture: http://i.imgur.com/JjCw0.gif ... I can't
 sort it when doing a newsgroup search with a keyword. :(

Why search on Mozilla when there are separate Netscape, and Mozilla
group lists?
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Re: Thunderbird? SeaMonkey?

2012-07-11 Thread WLS
On 07/11/2012 05:46 AM, Daniel wrote:
 Robert Kaiser wrote:
 WLS schrieb:
 Q: When do we plan to reach Kilimanjaro?

 A: Our proposed target date for this event is September 2012.

 That's outdated (should be corrected). It's unclear right now when the
 full Kilimanjaro event will/can be reached. The focus right now is to
 get the first step on that way, dubbed Basecamp, which is everything
 needed for the launch of the first devices with Firefox OS somewhere
 around the turn of the year.

 Robert Kaiser

 
 When I saw WLS's reference to Kilimanjaro, I thought he was referring
 to the African mountain, but now I'm of the opinion that it might be a
 project name, however a quick search on SeaMonkey's home page gave me
 nothing, so...
 
 With reference to SeaMonkey, what is Kilimanjaro??
 

I guess you missed the links in WLS previous post.

Here is the home page.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Kilimanjaro

The Kilimanjaro Event is an initiative to bring Mozilla projects
(Firefox on desktop and mobile, Marketplace, Persona, and B2G) together
in one integrated experience. It is an opportunity for our entire
community to focus on products and features which are most important to
Mozilla's mission of an open internet and web platform. 

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Re: Thunderbird? SeaMonkey?

2012-07-10 Thread WLS
On 07/10/2012 10:49 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 WLS schrieb:
 Q: When do we plan to reach Kilimanjaro?

 A: Our proposed target date for this event is September 2012.
 
 That's outdated (should be corrected). It's unclear right now when the
 full Kilimanjaro event will/can be reached. The focus right now is to
 get the first step on that way, dubbed Basecamp, which is everything
 needed for the launch of the first devices with Firefox OS somewhere
 around the turn of the year.
 
 Robert Kaiser
 

Thanks for that update.

The general point, I think, is the idea that the web is the platform,
and not the desktop.

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Re: Thunderbird? SeaMonkey?

2012-07-09 Thread WLS
On 07/09/2012 11:55 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
 Rick Merrill wrote:
 BIll Spikowski wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 I wonder what affect this will have on the SeaMonkey email client:

 http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/06/so-thats-it-for-thunderbird/
 http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2012/07/06/thunderbird-stability-and-community-innovation/

 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Proposal:_New_Release_and_Governance_Model

 Mozilla is focusing a lot of its efforts towards important web and
 mobile projects, while Thunderbird remains a pure desktop only email
 client. We have come to the conclusion that continued innovation on
 Thunderbird is not a priority for Mozilla and that the most critical
 needs for the product are on-going security and stability. In fact, it
 is quite possible that Thunderbird is already pretty much what its
 users
 want and there is not a high demand for innovation in this field.


 I agree that the Seamonkey email client is already pretty much what
 its users want -- but that doesn't mean we wouldn't want something
 even better, or at least have confidence that we won't be losing a
 familiar tool that so many of us depend on so heavily all day, every
 day.

 I've fallen completely for the Sync feature, and have been dreaming
 about being able to Sync address books across my computers. It's quite
 a shock to hear the opposite, that the Mozilla folks are about to
 abandon further development of Thunderbird, and by extension Seamonkey
 too.

 The idea that webmail is clearly superior is incredibly absurd! I'm
 glad it works for lots of other folks (though I suspect mainly because
 they don't realize there are superior alternatives). I use webmail
 often, and hate every minute of it



 Suppose you had browser-based email whose interface looked and worked
 like the SeaMonkey mail client? Surely you wouldn't hate that!-)
  
 The big advantage of such a system would be that it makes your address
 book and bookmarks available to you from any of your computers.
 
 That's why I like the new Sync feature, even though it doesn't (yet?)
 include the address book.
 
 Your idea would help a lot, but my e-mail archives are an invaluable
 treasure to my business and I would NEVER trust their long-term
 storage to the cloud, or to anyone else's email servers.
 
 I'll admit that my personal system using Seamonkey is cumbersome (POP
 at my office to permanently store emails, and IMAP on my laptop so I
 can read and respond to emails comfortably while traveling without
 duplicating their storage), but I sure haven't figured out any other
 system that would work for me! Yes, I'm one of those people who would
 pay for continuing minor improvements to Seamonkey.
 
 

SeaMonkey accepts donations.

https://donate.mozilla.org/page/contribute/seamonkey
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Re: Thunderbird? SeaMonkey?

2012-07-09 Thread WLS
On 07/09/2012 02:26 PM, PhillipJones wrote:
 Rick Merrill wrote:
 BIll Spikowski wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 I wonder what affect this will have on the SeaMonkey email client:

 http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/06/so-thats-it-for-thunderbird/
 http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2012/07/06/thunderbird-stability-and-community-innovation/


 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Proposal:_New_Release_and_Governance_Model


 Mozilla is focusing a lot of its efforts towards important web and
 mobile projects, while Thunderbird remains a pure desktop only email
 client. We have come to the conclusion that continued innovation on
 Thunderbird is not a priority for Mozilla and that the most critical
 needs for the product are on-going security and stability. In fact, it
 is quite possible that Thunderbird is already pretty much what its
 users
 want and there is not a high demand for innovation in this field.


 I agree that the Seamonkey email client is already pretty much what
 its users want -- but that doesn't mean we wouldn't want something
 even better, or at least have confidence that we won't be losing a
 familiar tool that so many of us depend on so heavily all day, every
 day.

 I've fallen completely for the Sync feature, and have been dreaming
 about being able to Sync address books across my computers. It's quite
 a shock to hear the opposite, that the Mozilla folks are about to
 abandon further development of Thunderbird, and by extension Seamonkey
 too.

 The idea that webmail is clearly superior is incredibly absurd! I'm
 glad it works for lots of other folks (though I suspect mainly because
 they don't realize there are superior alternatives). I use webmail
 often, and hate every minute of it



 Suppose you had browser-based email whose interface looked and worked
 like the SeaMonkey mail client? Surely you wouldn't hate that!-)


 The big advantage of such a system would be that it makes your address
 book and bookmarks available to you from any of your computers.



 It won't happen and I don't trust any web based mail.
 

It is happening, one of the reasons for the focus away from Thunderbird.

Can you say web app?

Q: When do we plan to reach Kilimanjaro?

A: Our proposed target date for this event is September 2012.


Q: What does this mean for Firefox/rapid release schedule?

A: Firefox will continue to have regular release trains. This is simply
an effort to align other Mozilla products as they become integrated
w/Firefox.

from https://wiki.mozilla.org/Kilimanjaro/FAQ

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Kilimanjaro/ProductDraft


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Re: SM2.10.1 Composer Tables Not Indented

2012-07-06 Thread WLS
On 07/06/2012 05:57 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:
 Brooke Clarke wrote:
 Hi:

 I turned off the Composer preference to use CSS and that's fixed the
 problem, THANKS.
 
 Brooke,
 
 You are very welcome.  Now you should be able to create web page
 documents very much like in the old days of Netscape Composer.
 
 If you would like to try something similar to composer, but updated to
 recent web standards you might like to try, Kompozer, patterned after
 the Netscape version, but heavily updated.  Konpozer:
 http://www.kompozer.net/
 
 Michael G
 

Last stable KompoZer version was released 2007-08-30, so I don't think
it is up to date with web standards.

Last stable BlueGriffon version based on Gecko, was released 2012-05-25,
and supports HTML5.

http://www.bluegriffon.org/

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Re: SeaMonkey Sync

2012-07-06 Thread WLS
On 07/06/2012 10:05 PM, Bret Blakeslee wrote:
 The documentation specifies (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/sync)
 that I can 'Click Create a New Account.' under Tools but I can't
 because (I'm using 2.10.1) there is no Create a New Account button
 there.  What do I have to do to get that button to appear?
 
 My system specifics are Fujitsu Notebook A6120, Windows XP, 4GB RAM,
 500GB HDD, Intel Core 2 Duo CPU @ 2GHz, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 (or 2.9.1 -
 neither showed this button, I thought the upgrade might fix it but it
 didn't).
 
 Bret Blakeslee

Did ya click Set Up Sync... under Tools?

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Re: Hogging CPU from JavaScript/JS on some web sites/pages recently?

2012-07-04 Thread WLS
On 07/04/2012 01:48 PM, Ant wrote:
 Is there a real-time JavaScript/JS monitor to see what is going on from
 its CPU hogging in my Mozilla web browsers?
 
 

Firebug has a JavaScript profiler, that may do what you want.

http://getfirebug.com/

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Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?

2012-07-03 Thread WLS
On 07/03/2012 12:46 PM, Mike C wrote:
 
 Every time I delete something from my inbox I get the following.
 This just started.
 
 Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space?
 
 How do I eliminate it??

I would click the Yes button, and compact my folders, to save disk
space, because it appears SeaMonkey is telling you that you are reaching
your limit.

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Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?

2012-07-03 Thread WLS
On 07/03/2012 01:21 PM, Mike C wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 On 07/03/2012 12:46 PM, Mike C wrote:

 Every time I delete something from my inbox I get the following.
 This just started.

 Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk
 space?

 How do I eliminate it??

 I would click the Yes button, and compact my folders, to save disk
 space, because it appears SeaMonkey is telling you that you are reaching
 your limit.

 I don't think I'm anywhere near a limit.
 There must be a box somewhere to uncheck.
 I just can't find it.
 

If you are getting the notification after you have compacted, then you
have a problem. I would try compacting first.

No, check box that I see to stop the notification.

In my Linux version I have a check in my Compact folders when it will
save over XX MB setting, under Edit  Preferences  Mail and Newsgroups
 Network and Storage. My setting being 20 MB.

Maybe if you deselect that setting, or raise the limit, the warning will
go away.

Good Luck!

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Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?

2012-07-03 Thread WLS
On 07/03/2012 02:12 PM, Mike C wrote:
 Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Mike C:

 Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk
 space?

 How do I eliminate it??

 Uncheck Preferences-Mail  Newsgroups-Network  Storage-Disk Space
 [x] Compact folders when it will save over [] MB

 But it would be better to set  to a convenient value.

 Hartmut

 Thanks, That's what I was looking for.
 

So you aren't anywhere near the limit, but want to increase the limit,
or disable the limit.

Good luck when your folders get corrupted.

We do hope you compact folders manually on occasion.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders
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Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders?

2012-07-03 Thread WLS
On 07/03/2012 03:03 PM, Mike C wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 On 07/03/2012 02:12 PM, Mike C wrote:
 Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Mike C:

 Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk
 space?

 How do I eliminate it??

 Uncheck Preferences-Mail  Newsgroups-Network  Storage-Disk Space
 [x] Compact folders when it will save over [] MB

 But it would be better to set  to a convenient value.

 Hartmut

 Thanks, That's what I was looking for.


 So you aren't anywhere near the limit, but want to increase the limit,
 or disable the limit.

 Good luck when your folders get corrupted.

 We do hope you compact folders manually on occasion.

 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders

 I had just compacting all folders and right after doing it the Do you
 wish to compact all local and offline folders? started popping up.
 
 I've been using SM mail for 10 or 12 years now and never saw that pop up
 before.
 
 I do compact manually from time to time.
 

Nice to hear that you occasionally compact manually.

Apologies, I thought you said you received the notification every time
after you deleted a message.

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Re: How to disable seamonkey keyboard shortcut?

2012-07-01 Thread WLS

jim wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:47:58 +0200, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:


jim wrote:

An example of a Seamonkey prefs.js code snippet for a shortcut appears to
be something like:

user_pref(keyconfig.main.xxx_key__Focus Search Bar, control][K][][var
el = document.getElementById('searchbar'); if (el)
el.focus();][chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul);


That pref alone does nothing. It requires the KeyConfig add-on to be
installed (which you can get from
http://mozilla.dorando.at/keyconfig.xpi).


Can anyone supply the code that will simply disable shortcut action Ctrl+T
for the browser and for the mail client in Seamonkey 2.9.1?


Install KeyConfig and disable the shortcuts using its user interface
(probably needs to be done for the browser and MailNews windows
separately). No code needed for that.

HTH

Jens


I installed that add-on for FF 13.0.1 with good result, but it is
apparently reading (or interpreting) the header from Seamonkey 2.9.1 as
Firefox 2.9.1 and graying out the Add to Firefox button saying that
Firefox 2.9.1 is not supported.

(Of course i am not adding it to Firefox here, but to Seamonkey -- many of
the extensions work in either)

Do you have good way around this?

(that particular shortcut is causing real problems -- was in both
browsers, now in one.)

Thanks,

jim



Don't know about SeaMonkey 2.9.1, but it installed with no problem in 
SeaMonkey 2.10.


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Re: install flashplayer

2012-06-29 Thread WLS
On 06/29/2012 08:01 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
 Adobe flash keeps asking to be installed over and over
 but SeaMonkey 2.10.1 never seems to acknowledge the
 installation of install_flashplayer11x32_mssd_aih.exe
 on Windows-XP-sp3
 
 What do I do now?

When I go to Adobe http://www.adobe.com/downloads/ and download the
version for Windows, I get an install_flash_player.exe file.

Where did you get the file you are trying to install?

I would get the file I downloaded, and try again.

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Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???

2012-06-23 Thread WLS
On 06/23/2012 11:15 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Ken Rudolph wrote:

 Win 7, SM 2.10.1

 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this
 time without my permission.  And of course all the usability of flash
 files in SeaMonkey disappeared.  This time I learned from my previous
 mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort
 of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3,
 went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a
 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult).  Downloaded
 that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe
 program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos
 back!

 Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this?  Obviously it still
 is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help
 that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some
 people.  But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I
 can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry
  about this, and Adobe
 isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem.

 I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my
 current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved.

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0)
 Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1
 
 Same.

 Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched.
 
 Same.

 Could you post some links to sites that don't work?
 
 Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses
 Flash.  Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey,
 Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not
 Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just
 gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a
 notice that An error occurred.  Please try again later sometimes just
 blank.  The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash
 sites work, no problem.

 How about a list of your add-ons?
 
 I don't think I have any add-ons.  At least none that I have purposely
 added.

 If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why
 there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering.
 
 From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a
 week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody).
  Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working
 on it.  I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working
 together to fix this but can't find the solution.  I'm glad for you that
 you don't have this problem.
 

The solution was found according to this news article.

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-updates-Flash-Player-11-3-to-fix-Firefox-crashing-problem-1623783.html

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SeaMonkey Mail not opening to the Inbox

2012-06-20 Thread WLS
A user was asking me about his SeaMonkey not opening to the Inbox in SM 
2.0.10, and the account tree was collapsed.


He downgraded to SM 2.0.6, and checked for updates, and found the 
updater wasn't working in SM 2.0.10, and was updated to SM 2.0.14 from 
SM 2.0.6, which resolved his problem with not opening to the Inbox.


He states, So good of them to keep me posted. Call me naive, but I 
thought automatic updates meant automatic updates.


I suggested he update to SM 2.10.1 for security reasons, which he did. 
He is using Windows 7 UK English version.


Now the not opening to the Inbox, account tree is collapsed problem has 
returned.


I've already suggested he check to make sure Remember the last selected 
message is not checked. It is not. That View All is set for Threads and 
Messages. They are.


He claims to have no extensions or themes installed.

I can't think of anything else for suggest. Any ideas?
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Re: SeaMonkey Mail not opening to the Inbox

2012-06-20 Thread WLS

Rickles wrote:

WLS wrote:

A user was asking me about his SeaMonkey not opening to the Inbox in SM
2.0.10, and the account tree was collapsed.

He downgraded to SM 2.0.6, and checked for updates, and found the
updater wasn't working in SM 2.0.10, and was updated to SM 2.0.14 from
SM 2.0.6, which resolved his problem with not opening to the Inbox.

He states, So good of them to keep me posted. Call me naive, but I
thought automatic updates meant automatic updates.

I suggested he update to SM 2.10.1 for security reasons, which he did.
He is using Windows 7 UK English version.

Now the not opening to the Inbox, account tree is collapsed problem has
returned.

I've already suggested he check to make sure Remember the last selected
message is not checked. It is not. That View All is set for Threads and
Messages. They are.

He claims to have no extensions or themes installed.

I can't think of anything else for suggest. Any ideas?

It's a bug, Bugzilla # 748899.  The only way we've seen so far to
guarantee your mail window opens the way you want is to open a browser
window first, then open mail from there, using the little envelope icon
in the lower left corner of the browser window.


Thanks! I'll pass that along.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released

2012-05-03 Thread WLS
On 05/03/2012 12:33 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
 The more fixes the merrier. i.e. I wish more bugs (issues) get fixed,
 as soon it can be accomplished.
 Of course I also wish there weren't as many new bugs getting through
 to the released product versions, in the first place.

Are you testing any Aurora, Beta or Nightly builds to help make sure
those bugs don't get through to the Release versions?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released

2012-05-03 Thread WLS
On 05/03/2012 02:02 PM, Manuel Reimer wrote:
 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.9/changes
 
 This is exactly the same change list as for the 2.9 release, so where's
 the difference between 2.9 and 2.9.1?
 
 Yours
 
 Manuel

Right at the top under Fixes in 2.9.1

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9 released

2012-05-01 Thread WLS
On 05/01/2012 12:22 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.9: The new major
 release
 of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download [1] now!
 Building on
 the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers
 the latest
 developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and
 improved JavaScript speed.

 SeaMonkey 2.9 is available in 26 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and
 Linux.

 Most notably, this release features for the first time:
 [...snip...]
 * View Source now has line numbers
 
 How does one turn OFF the line numbers? Is there a pref I missed?
 
 

Don't see one, but Go to Line (Ctrl+L) under Edit in source view is a
nice companion feature.

How do I make the line numbers darker? Very hard to see them at all.

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Re: Composer doesn't support HTML5?

2012-04-30 Thread WLS
On 04/30/2012 12:18 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 04/29/2012 05:44 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 29/04/2012 21:10, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the
 world:

 If he was the NVu guy, why did he change the name? (although I rather 
 prefer Bluegriffon to nVu).

 I don't know the exact reasoning, but there are a few likely possibilities:

 1. BlueGriffon is an entirely different program. NVu was built on the
 old Mozilla Composer codebase, and depended on a (patched) old version
 of Gecko. BlueGriffon was built from the ground up, to use the
 most-current version of Gecko without patches. It's possible that
 Glazman wanted to dissociate the new product from NVu due to those
 differences.

 2. Glazman had an sponsor for NVu -- the old Linspire Linux distro. It's
 possible that Linspire and their successors, not Glazman, hold the
 rights to the NVu trademark.

 3. BlueGriffon, having no sponsor, uses a different business model --
 the so-called freemium system: basic package is free, add-ons are
 for-pay. Since NVu was totally free, another possible reason for
 changing the brand was not to carry the expectations of it being totally
 free.

 
 Not to mention that BlueGriffon and BlueFish support HTML5  kompozer 
 Nvu do not...
 

So does my preferred Web Editor.

http://www.aptana.com/

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Re: Seamonkey 2.9

2012-04-25 Thread WLS
On 04/24/2012 09:23 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 Just noticed that it's available on the main download page, but no
 mention of it here?  Also, the update doesn't seem to be available
 either.  Still rolling it out?
 

You should subscribe to this blog.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2012-04-24

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Re: saving email as text file

2012-04-22 Thread WLS
On 04/21/2012 05:26 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 WLS wrote, On 21/04/2012 19:13:
 Rick Merrill wrote:
 When ever I File  Save As  File
 the default extension is .eml but I would
 like it to be .txt (as I don't use Outlook...)


 Thx,


 What is preventing you from changing the .eml extension to .txt?
 When i save it with the .txt extension double-clicking on it - NOTEPAD
 opens it showing
 Subject: the subject
 From:the from adress
 Date:the date sent
 To:the to adress
 MAIL TEXT
 
 BUT !!!
 
 When i save it with the .eml extension, if i double-click on it - SM
 opens it showing
 Subject: missing or blank
 From:missing or blank
 Date:missing or blank
 To:missing or blank
 MAIL TEXT
 
 Is this another unresolved SM bug ?

When I save it with the .eml extension, and select SeaMonkey mail from
one of the 3 mail programs on my system, it just opens the browser.

If I change the pref to open Mail and Newsgroups, it opens Mail and
Newsgroups, and doesn't display the message. Is that an unresolved SM
bug or, bug of the Linux build?

Thunderbird and KMail display the message properly, as does my text
editor program.

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Re: saving email as text file

2012-04-21 Thread WLS

Rick Merrill wrote:

When ever I File  Save As  File
the default extension is .eml but I would
like it to be .txt (as I don't use Outlook...)


Thx,



What is preventing you from changing the .eml extension to .txt?
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Re: Only check for new mail after opening Mail Newsgroups

2012-04-20 Thread WLS

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:


By this setting -- I meant the setting in the subject line of this
thread, Only check for new mail after opening Mail Newsgroups,
which is found as described on the first line of my message. It's a
global setting for all accounts.

The three settings you listed above are for each INDIVIDUAL email
account. I always keep all three checked for all accounts, because
that's the normal behavior I want for my email during my regular
working day.

My only problem occurs when I leave my office and for some reason need
to leave a SM browser window open; in that case, I've closed the SM
mail window because I do not want email downloaded from the server
when I'm out of the office (I need to monitor it on my Blackberry or
on my laptop or at home). It seems that the setting in the subject
line of this thread was created for people in my exact situation, if
I'm understanding it correctly. If I could make it work, I'd be even
more deliriously happy with Seamonkey!


Apparently, this setting behaves the same way as the three others I
described -- changes require a program restart before they take effect.
So if you've had the mail/news window open and you close it while
leaving the browser open, that doesn't count and SM happily goes on
checking mail. If you want only the browser open with no mail check, you
have to launch only the browser. If a mail/news window is already open,
you have to close the entire program and launch only the browser.

At least that's my theory for the moment.




My theory is the stuck process mentioned in the first post.

I just tested it 3 times. The last time with check for mail every one 
minute as the setting. Waited 5 minutes, and the email test didn't 
download until I opened the Mail window.


WFM


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Re: Only check for new mail after opening Mail Newsgroups

2012-04-20 Thread WLS

BIll Spikowski wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 19/04/2012 16:48, BIll Spikowski told the world:

I have this box checked in Edit | Preferences | Mail  Newsgroups.

Yet it doesn't stop Seamonkey from downloading my email when only the
browser window is open -- or even when no window is open but a SM
process is stuck running in the background.

This is a problem to me because I sometimes must leave a browser
window open, but I want my email left on the server until I'm back in
my office.

Is there a workaround that might solve this?


Bill, just to clear a point... are you complaining that:

a) You open Seamonkey, open the mail window, close the mail window
without closing the browser window and it keeps downloading mail in the
background, or

b) You have Seamonkey totally shut down, open JUST the browser window
and yet it starts downloading mail in the background?

Case (a) is working as intended; case (b) is not.



Case (a) is my situation.

If this is working as intended, I must be misinterpreting the checkbox
Only check for new mail after opening Mail  Newsgroups.

I thought it meant, Only check for new mail when Mail  Newsgroups is
open.

But I guess you're saying it means, Only check for new mail after
Mail  Newsgroups has been opened at least once in this session. In
which case, it's working as intended; if I need to leave a browser
window open without having SM download email all night, I need to exit
SM entirely, then open just a browser window.

A little awkward, but if I can remember that sequence, it would work
for me.





Disregard my previous message.

I just sent my fourth test message after changing to check every minute. 
The Mail  Newsgroups window was closed.


Got a message in the browser that I had new mail.

Tests 5 and 6 shows quiting completely seems to cure the problem.

File a RFE bug?
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Re: Lost Calendar, to do list, Tasks etc

2012-04-05 Thread WLS
On 04/05/2012 02:00 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Saviour wrote:
 
 Hi, Since UG to 2.8 I have lost the Calendar I had in SM Mail. Also
 Seamonkey wants to be the default browsers.
 
 Sorry, I can't help with the calendar, don't know the answer.
 
 For the default browser question, see the preference at
 Edit | Preferences | Advanced...
 System Integration:
 [x] Check default application settings on startup
 
 If you disable/uncheck this setting, SM will stop checking whether it's
 the default and it'll stop asking if you're happy that way.
 
 Not sure if I'm that impressed with SM.  Also. when you used to open
 SM, the mail would open as well. Now, I cannot open mail unless I want
 to send a msg.
 
 For this, see the preference at
 Edit | Preferences | Appearance...
 When SeaMonkey starts up, open:
 [ ] Browser
 [ ] Mail  Newsgroups
 [ ] Composer
 [ ] Address Book
 [ ] Chatzilla
 
 Check whichever boxes you prefer; you can choose as many as you like.
 

For the Calendar install the Lightning version that works with SeaMonkey
2.8. All your calendars, to do list, tasks and event will magically
reappear.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/

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Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?

2012-03-24 Thread WLS
On 03/24/2012 03:37 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
 SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are 
 not full screen centered with a black border around the picture.  The 
 previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a 
 white screen.  Is this change by design And if so is there some 
 setting I can change to get the old way back?  Or at least change the 
 border from black to white?

 Jim
 
 I submitted bug #738948, requesting a user option to use the
 user-specified background color.  It was closed as WontFix without any
 explaination of why that would be a bad idea.  I reopened the bug report
 to request such an explanation.  I don't know how long it will remain
 open.  See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738948.
 
 In the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html newsgroup, we are frequently
 reminded that Web pages should not attempt to override how users have
 configured their browsers.  Here, however, we have a case where someone
 decided to have the browser override how users configure their browsers.
  This is just plain wrong.  Can a Mozilla develeoper please explain why
 that is not wrong?
 

My 2 cents.

If I change color preference to Use System colors the background
becomes white.

If I pick a color in the palette, the background uses that color.

If I Allow pages to chose their own colors, instead of my selections
above (my default) the background is a dark grey.

The browser isn't overriding my settings at all, depending on how I
configure my preferences.

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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-29 Thread WLS
On 02/29/2012 05:13 AM, Daniel wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 02/27/2012 02:28 AM, Daniel wrote:
 ...

 Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

 Very few problems on either!
 If you mean:
 From: Danielsnip
 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2)
 Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
 from your other post. The WOW64[1] in your URI tells me that is
 standard SeaMonkey (32bit) running on your Win7 64bit O/S. Please have a
 look in C: Program Files (x86) and I think you'll find your SeaMonkey
 installation there.

 [1]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64
 quote
 WoW64 (Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit) is a subsystem of the Windows
 operating system that is capable of running 32-bit applications and is
 included on all 64-bit versions of Windows—including Windows XP
 Professional x64 Edition, IA-64 and x64 versions of Windows Server 2003,
 as well as 64-bit versions of Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and
 Windows 7. In Windows Server 2008 R2 Server Core, it is an optional
 component. WoW64 is designed to take care of many of the differences
 between 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows, particularly involving
 structural changes to Windows itself.
 /quote
 ...
 
 Well, thank you, NoOp, that's my thing for the day!! Nothing about
 SeaMonkey under C: Program Files (x86) or anywhere else!!
 
 Where do I get SM 64bit from??...apart from d/l'ing the V 2.0 version
 and update, update, update!!
 


There is no 64-bit build of SeaMonkey 2.7.2 for Windows.

Here is the link to the releases.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.7.2/

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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread WLS
On 02/26/2012 05:07 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 This is a new build system, and Seamonkey has
 been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
 Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
 the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
 followed the link first to mozdev.org and then
 to mozillaZine.  I was staggered to find that
 not only does the latter proudly state :
 
 MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.
 

It has? I participate there daily. The server could have been down, it
does that often.

 but it then goes on to say :
 
 Download Google Chrome
 A free browser that lets you do more online. Download instantly!
 www.google.com/chrome
 

Install the Adblock Plus extension and you won't see that.

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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread WLS
On 02/26/2012 08:40 AM, WLS wrote:
 On 02/26/2012 05:07 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 This is a new build system, and Seamonkey has
 been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
 Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
 the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
 followed the link first to mozdev.org and then
 to mozillaZine.  I was staggered to find that
 not only does the latter proudly state :

 MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.

 
 It has? I participate there daily. The server could have been down, it
 does that often.
 
 but it then goes on to say :

 Download Google Chrome
 A free browser that lets you do more online. Download instantly!
 www.google.com/chrome

 
 Install the Adblock Plus extension and you won't see that.
 
 snip
 

Update, just started SeaMonkey with a temporary profile, and see the
MozillaZine news site results you get. It is the MozillaZine Support
site I visit daily, and all those links on the news page are active.

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Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-25 Thread WLS

Smiles wrote:

My wife has been trying to post a comment to this page for some time I
resorted to IE to see submit section

http://thankfullga447.blogspot.com/2012/02/polka-dot-giveaway.html

any ideas what is wrong

thanks



I see it after scrolling all the way down to it.

It is not visible when I disable JavaScript.

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Re: why can I not see submit section of page

2012-02-25 Thread WLS
On 02/25/2012 10:16 AM, Arne wrote:
 Smiles wrote:
 My wife has been trying to post a comment to this page for some time I
 resorted to IE to see submit section

 http://thankfullga447.blogspot.com/2012/02/polka-dot-giveaway.html

 any ideas what is wrong
 
 Blogspot don't like old Seamonkey versions any more.
 I still have 2.0.14 and have the same problem. You have an even older
 version.
 
 I changed the user agent string in about:config to
 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 (that's what WLS has in a more recent SM
 version)
 
 And I was able to at least see the comment submit area, but I don't
 tried to post any comment there. Have to try it somewhere else. ;)
 

Sorry, I assumed he was using the current version of SeaMonkey.

Gotta get into the habit of checking the user agent I guess. Since
posters don't have the common sense to identify which operating system
and application version they are using.

If I had I wouldn't have responded, or responded with Your SeaMonkey
2.0.3 is out dated and should no longer be supported, update to
SeaMonkey 2.7.2.

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Re: email account password

2012-02-25 Thread WLS
On 02/25/2012 05:08 PM, David Lawler wrote:
 Using SM 1.1.19. I am trying to set up an additional email account.
 Somehow in the account set-up process, it doesn't ask for a password,
 but then when I try to access the account, SM wants a password.
 Sometimes I get a message saying enter the new password, or something
 like that, so I do but it won't accept it. This makes no sense to me.
 Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks


SeaMonkey 1.1.19 is outdated, subject to a whole nightmare of security
vulnerabilities.

http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/
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Re: Java

2012-02-23 Thread WLS
On 02/23/2012 01:20 PM, Not@home wrote:
 
 
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Not@home wrote:

 My security program (F-Secure) issues a newsletter and in the latest
 edition they recommend that we delete Java if we don't need it, because
 is seems to be most vulnerable to every new exploitation.  see
 http://safeandsavvy.f-secure.com/2012/01/14/why-you-should-get-rid-of-
 java-now/?ecid=2942nlcid=2942

 Is Java necessary to effective use of Seamonkey?  I see it pop up once
 or twice a day, most amusingly when I use F-Secure health check to see
 if my programs are up to snuff.  I do have another program that scans my
 pc and tells me when any program is not up to date, so I do have the
 most up to date Java.

 My experience is that there are very few Java applets left on the normal
 web. Most developers seem to have moved on to Flash or HTML5 presentation
 -- with of course the over-abundance of JavaScript we see every day.
 (Java and JavaScript are two entirely different things.)

 You can see a safe Java applet here. If your Java is enabled, the time
 display will tick-tock away; otherwise it's a static display:
 http://time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5

 So the answer is: unless you know of a specific web site(s) that actually
 do use Java applets, you can safely remove it - or at least disable it,
 possibly via the use of the PrefBar extension (also makes it easy to
 manage many other things, including en/disable JavaScript).
 http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org

 Now I'm puzzled.  I went to the site you provided and got a static
 display.  I then went to a site I use (washingtonpost.com,
 entertainment, crosswords, daily crossword, and it displayed a Java logo
 while loading, and advised that if it doesn't work, you should update to
 the current version of Java.  If this site is using JavaScript, would it
 display the Java logo?

No it wouldn't. It uses Java.

You need Java enabled to view the crossword applet. 

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Re: Java

2012-02-23 Thread WLS
On 02/23/2012 02:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Not@home wrote:
 
 You can see a safe Java applet here. If your Java is enabled, the time
 display will tick-tock away; otherwise it's a static display:
 http://time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5
 
 I have Java installed, and SM confirms in about:plugins, and so does the
 Java Control Panel, which says it's enabled, but the display is static.
 
 So the answer is: unless you know of a specific web site(s) that
 actually
 do use Java applets, you can safely remove it - or at least disable it,
 possibly via the use of the PrefBar extension (also makes it easy to
 manage many other things, including en/disable JavaScript).
 http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org

 Now I'm puzzled. I went to the site you provided and got a static
 display. I then went to a site I use (washingtonpost.com, entertainment,
 crosswords, daily crossword, and it displayed a Java logo while loading,
 and advised that if it doesn't work, you should update to the current
 version of Java. If this site is using JavaScript, would it display the
 Java logo?
 
 I got no warning, but completed the crossword without difficulty.
 
 So do I or don't I have Java enabled?
 

Do

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Re: SM 2.72 Mail NG customization?

2012-02-23 Thread WLS

chicagofan wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 23/02/2012 16:42, chicagofan told the world:

Can the customized text and background colors chosen, that appear in the
message windows also be used in the message lists of mail and
newsgroups? Or does that require a theme, which I don't think is
available?


Uh? If you are talking about using different colors (and sometimes
background shades) to highlight different levels of quotes, they sure do
show up for me, both in mail messages and in newsgroup messages.

I don't remember doing anything special to enable this functionality in
news; but then, I have been using Quote Colors for ages, so it could be
something it has done automatically.

A recent-version-of-Seamonkey-compatible copy of Quote Colors can be
found at Philip Chee's site:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#quotecolors



Sorry, I'm not talking about quotes. I've reached the age where bright
white pages hurt my eyes, as I am on my computer most every day, all
day. I used the Walnut theme before, which helped a lot, but it's not
available for the new releases.

Since my friends and I share news articles and images daily in e-mail, I
use HTML for mail and that's apparently the root of a lot of my problems
relating to fonts. :)

I was just wondering if the available Color options for background and
text could be expanded.
bj




I just applied the code Chris supplied, and this is what the result 
looks like. The red in the folder view is from a previous change.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/seamonkey.png/

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Re: SM 2.72 Mail NG customization?

2012-02-23 Thread WLS

chicagofan wrote:

WLS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 23/02/2012 16:42, chicagofan told the world:

Can the customized text and background colors chosen, that appear in
the
message windows also be used in the message lists of mail and
newsgroups? Or does that require a theme, which I don't think is
available?


Uh? If you are talking about using different colors (and sometimes
background shades) to highlight different levels of quotes, they
sure do
show up for me, both in mail messages and in newsgroup messages.

I don't remember doing anything special to enable this functionality in
news; but then, I have been using Quote Colors for ages, so it could be
something it has done automatically.

A recent-version-of-Seamonkey-compatible copy of Quote Colors can be
found at Philip Chee's site:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#quotecolors



Sorry, I'm not talking about quotes. I've reached the age where bright
white pages hurt my eyes, as I am on my computer most every day, all
day. I used the Walnut theme before, which helped a lot, but it's not
available for the new releases.

Since my friends and I share news articles and images daily in e-mail, I
use HTML for mail and that's apparently the root of a lot of my problems
relating to fonts. :)

I was just wondering if the available Color options for background and
text could be expanded.
bj




I just applied the code Chris supplied, and this is what the result
looks like. The red in the folder view is from a previous change.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/seamonkey.png/




I see THANKS! It's the background... that I really need to change
though, if possible. It works great in the message display. :)
bj




Background of the Message Pane, or the Thread Pane?

The code Chris supplied applies to the thread pane.

You can change the background of the message pane in your Appearance 
preferences. Colors -- Background.


I just installed the Walnut theme in SeaMonkey Beta 2.8b3, and changed 
the background, and now my SeaMonkey mail looks like this.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/205/seamonkey2.png/

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Re: SM 2.72 Mail NG customization?

2012-02-23 Thread WLS

chicagofan wrote:

WLS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 23/02/2012 16:42, chicagofan told the world:

Can the customized text and background colors chosen, that appear in
the
message windows also be used in the message lists of mail and
newsgroups? Or does that require a theme, which I don't think is
available?


Uh? If you are talking about using different colors (and sometimes
background shades) to highlight different levels of quotes, they
sure do
show up for me, both in mail messages and in newsgroup messages.

I don't remember doing anything special to enable this functionality in
news; but then, I have been using Quote Colors for ages, so it could be
something it has done automatically.

A recent-version-of-Seamonkey-compatible copy of Quote Colors can be
found at Philip Chee's site:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#quotecolors



Sorry, I'm not talking about quotes. I've reached the age where bright
white pages hurt my eyes, as I am on my computer most every day, all
day. I used the Walnut theme before, which helped a lot, but it's not
available for the new releases.

Since my friends and I share news articles and images daily in e-mail, I
use HTML for mail and that's apparently the root of a lot of my problems
relating to fonts. :)

I was just wondering if the available Color options for background and
text could be expanded.
bj




I just applied the code Chris supplied, and this is what the result
looks like. The red in the folder view is from a previous change.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/seamonkey.png/




Ahh... I see that it did change the message list... but not the
display or the background for the group names. Maybe there is hope. :)
bj


Upon further playing around, I was able to change the background color 
of the Folder Pane, by editing the code Chris provided to


#folderTree treecol,
#folderTree
  {background-color: #99 !important;}

Unfortunately to test it, I had to enable the default theme, and now 
Walnut won't re-enable.


I could email you a copy of my userChrome.css if you want.

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Re: SM 2.72 Mail NG customization?

2012-02-23 Thread WLS

chicagofan wrote:

WLS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 23/02/2012 16:42, chicagofan told the world:

Can the customized text and background colors chosen, that appear in
the
message windows also be used in the message lists of mail and
newsgroups? Or does that require a theme, which I don't think is
available?


Uh? If you are talking about using different colors (and sometimes
background shades) to highlight different levels of quotes, they
sure do
show up for me, both in mail messages and in newsgroup messages.

I don't remember doing anything special to enable this functionality in
news; but then, I have been using Quote Colors for ages, so it could be
something it has done automatically.

A recent-version-of-Seamonkey-compatible copy of Quote Colors can be
found at Philip Chee's site:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#quotecolors



Sorry, I'm not talking about quotes. I've reached the age where bright
white pages hurt my eyes, as I am on my computer most every day, all
day. I used the Walnut theme before, which helped a lot, but it's not
available for the new releases.

Since my friends and I share news articles and images daily in e-mail, I
use HTML for mail and that's apparently the root of a lot of my problems
relating to fonts. :)

I was just wondering if the available Color options for background and
text could be expanded.
bj




I just applied the code Chris supplied, and this is what the result
looks like. The red in the folder view is from a previous change.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/seamonkey.png/




Ahh... I see that it did change the message list... but not the
display or the background for the group names. Maybe there is hope. :)
bj



Don't know why I just didn't stay logged into ImageShack LOL!

Anyway, final product after playing with different colors.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/815/seamonkey3.png/

I also hate white backgrounds.

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Re: Seamonkey Compose icon

2012-02-22 Thread WLS
On 02/22/2012 11:06 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 Seamonkey 2.7.2, Windows XP/7.
 
 Is there any way to change the icon associated with
 the Seamonkey e-mail Compose application ?  When
 it appears in a whole slew of Seamonkey icons above
 a single entry in the Windows task bar, it looks far
 too much like the Seamonkey browser icon and far too
 little like the Seamonkey e-mail icon, so is very
 easily missed or overlooked.
 
 Philip Taylor


In your SeaMonkey application folder, open the Chrome -- Icons --
Default folder, there are 3 .png files titled msgcomposeWindow.png,
msgcomposeWindow16.png, and msgcomposeWindow48.png.

You could probably replace them with images of your choice, or edit the
images in an image editing application.


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Re: Seamonkey Compose icon

2012-02-22 Thread WLS
On 02/22/2012 01:08 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 You could probably replace them with images of your choice, or
 edit the
 images in an image editing application.
 
 There is much more to this than meets the eye.  I rename
 the original msgcomposeWindow.ico to msgcompose.ico
 and all is fine; I clone the messengerWindow.ico file
 and all is fine.  I rename this last to (e.g.,) messenger.ico
 and all is fine.  But the instant I rename it to
 msgcomposeWindow.ico, it immediately takes on the appearance
 of the original msgcomposeWindow.ico.  WTH is going on ?!
 
 Philip Taylor


I don't see that problem, though I have .png and not .ico files, and
just renamed, not clone any icons.

The messenger icons are used by the SeaMonkey mail window. Are you sure
those are the ones you want to use for the Compose window?

Renamed msgcomposerWindow16 to msgcomposerWindow16S
Renamed msgcomposeWindow to msgcomposeWindowM
Renamed msgcomposeWindow48 to msgcomposeWindwo48L
Renamed messengerWindow to msgcomposeWindow

Seems to WFM.

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Re: libpng graphics library vulnerabilities in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser?

2012-02-22 Thread WLS

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 22/02/2012 12:34, Philip TAYLOR told the world:



MCBastos wrote:


In http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26922231- security forum thread,


Error: Either this forum does not exist, or it is members only!

Could you please offer a link to a publicly-available reference to what
exactly is this vulnerability?


Publicly available here; perhaps you are trying to connect
from an IP address associated with something undesirable ?


No, Ant got it -- it's the hyphen at the end, that Seamonkey interprets
as NOT being part of the URL (and I never would guess it's supposed to
be).



All right, fine. Clicking on the link as posted, when in SM 2.7.2 , is not
interpreted correctly by SM! It is interpreted correctly in ATT/YAHOO
webmail (being accessed via SM 2.7.2) and possibly when the news article
is being read in another reader e.g. I.E.
So is this a bug in the SM browser? Has it been entered into BUGZILLA?
or is it an already known old bug?


The link is incomplete in that post, as far as I can see.

It should be, and I think I addressed how to get to it in another post.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26906111-Mozilla-Security-release-to-fix-libpng-graphics-library-vuln

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Re: Seamonkey Compose icon

2012-02-22 Thread WLS
On 02/22/2012 01:53 PM, WLS wrote:
 On 02/22/2012 01:08 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:


 Philip TAYLOR wrote:

 You could probably replace them with images of your choice, or
 edit the
 images in an image editing application.

 There is much more to this than meets the eye.  I rename
 the original msgcomposeWindow.ico to msgcompose.ico
 and all is fine; I clone the messengerWindow.ico file
 and all is fine.  I rename this last to (e.g.,) messenger.ico
 and all is fine.  But the instant I rename it to
 msgcomposeWindow.ico, it immediately takes on the appearance
 of the original msgcomposeWindow.ico.  WTH is going on ?!

 Philip Taylor
 
 
 I don't see that problem, though I have .png and not .ico files, and
 just renamed, not clone any icons.
 
 The messenger icons are used by the SeaMonkey mail window. Are you sure
 those are the ones you want to use for the Compose window?
 
 Renamed msgcomposerWindow16 to msgcomposerWindow16S
 Renamed msgcomposeWindow to msgcomposeWindowM
 Renamed msgcomposeWindow48 to msgcomposeWindwo48L
 Renamed messengerWindow to msgcomposeWindow
 
 Seems to WFM.
 


Further investigation shows About 43,399,564 results in a Startpage
search for mail icons, including an email icon generator.

Maybe you could find an icon to your liking at one of the free icon
finder sites.

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Re: Seamonkey Compose icon

2012-02-22 Thread WLS
On 02/22/2012 02:54 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 WLS wrote:
 
 Further investigation shows About 43,399,564 results in a Startpage
 search for mail icons, including an email icon generator.

 Maybe you could find an icon to your liking at one of the free icon
 finder sites.
 
 I was very happy with the Messenger icon :-)  But the problem
 is, if as soon as an icon is named msgcomposeWindow.ico (or
 whatever the name was), it immediately changes its
 appearance to the identical with the original
 msagcomposeWindow.ico file, it won't matter whether there are
 43 399 564 results or a googleplex of them, they will
 all look the same once named composeWindow.ico !
 N'est-ce pas ?


Renaming didn't behave that way for me, and don't understand it.

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Re: libpng graphics library vulnerabilities in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser?

2012-02-22 Thread WLS
On 02/22/2012 08:28 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
 MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 22/02/2012 12:34, Philip TAYLOR told the world:


 MCBastos wrote:

 In http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26922231- security forum thread,

 Error: Either this forum does not exist, or it is members only!

 Could you please offer a link to a publicly-available reference to
 what
 exactly is this vulnerability?

 Publicly available here; perhaps you are trying to connect
 from an IP address associated with something undesirable ?

 No, Ant got it -- it's the hyphen at the end, that Seamonkey interprets
 as NOT being part of the URL (and I never would guess it's supposed to
 be).


 All right, fine. Clicking on the link as posted, when in SM 2.7.2 ,
 is not
 interpreted correctly by SM! It is interpreted correctly in ATT/YAHOO
 webmail (being accessed via SM 2.7.2) and possibly when the news article
 is being read in another reader e.g. I.E.
 So is this a bug in the SM browser? Has it been entered into BUGZILLA?
 or is it an already known old bug?

 The link is incomplete in that post, as far as I can see.

 It should be, and I think I addressed how to get to it in another post.

 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26906111-Mozilla-Security-release-to-fix-libpng-graphics-library-vuln



 No. The link in the message is complete. But SM does not pick up the
 trailing -
 when you click on the url.
 All you have to do is to add the missing - at the end of the url (after it
 fails) and do a carriage return so that SM retries with the corrected url.
 Or highlight the url including the -, copy it to the clipboard (ctrl-c),
 and use ctrl-v to enter the full url from the clipboard
 to the url entry blank.

OK

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Re: Why do incremental updates not define their purpose ?

2012-02-20 Thread WLS
On 02/20/2012 08:36 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 If I read the release notes for Seamonkey 2.7.2, I am told :
 
 What's New in SeaMonkey 2.7.2

 SeaMonkey 2.7.2 contains the following major changes relative
 to SeaMonkey 2.6:
 
 But I knew this already, from the release notes for
 Seamonkey 2.7.  Why do the release notes for incremental
 release not tell me what the differences are between
 this release and the immediately preceding one (e.g.,
 in the case of Seamonkey 2.7.2, the differences
 between it and Seamonkey 2.7.1) ?
 
 Philip Taylor

Going to the release notes page for SeaMonkey 2.7.2

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.7/

then clicking on the link in the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.7.2 section
takes me to a What's New in SeaMonkey 2.6.1 page.

I think this is most likely due to the 2 or 3 volunteer developers, not
having time to update release notes. So, I guess the question is do they
update release notes first, or push out the security fix first.

Anyway this is the difference.

https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2012/mfsa2012-11.html

Wonder if Mozilla is going to update this page?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/releases/
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Re: Recent updates

2012-02-20 Thread WLS
On 02/20/2012 09:40 AM, JAS wrote:
 Really? No loss of extensions? I just declined the update because two 
 extensions will be disabled. This is exactly why I hate frequent updates. 

 Here is a list of my installed extensions:
 
 Last updated: Mon Feb 20 2012 07:35:41 GMT-0700 (Mountain Standard Time)
 User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 
 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
 
 Extensions (enabled: 27)
 * Abduction! 2.026 
 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/abduction/?src=api)
 * Adblock Plus 2.0.2 (http://adblockplus.org/en/)
 * Add-on Compatibility Reporter 1.0.2 
 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api)
 * AttachmentExtractor 1.2.2 (http://www.eviljeff.com/?page=moz-extensions)
 * ChatZilla 0.9.87 (http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/)
 * ColorfulTabs 8.0 
 (http://www.binaryturf.com/free-software/colorfultabs-for-firefox/)
 * CutCopyPaste 1.1 (http://tom-cat.com/mozilla)
 * DOM Inspector 2.0.10 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
 * DownThemAll! 2.0.10 (http://downthemall.net/)
 * DownloadHelper 4.9.8 (http://www.downloadhelper.net)
 * EPUBReader 1.4.1.1 (http://www.epubread.com/)
 * Empty Trash 1.0 (http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/)
 * Enigmail 1.3.5 (http://enigmail.mozdev.org/)
 * Flagfox 4.1.10 (http://flagfox.net/)
 * Form History Control 1.2.10.1 (http://www.formhistory.blogspot.com) 
 (disabled)
 * JavaScript Debugger 0.9.88.2 (http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/venkman/) 
 (disabled)
 * Lightning 1.2b3 
 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/releases/lightning1.2.html)
 * MR Tech Toolkit 6.0.4 (http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/)
 * OptimizeGoogle 0.79.1 (http://www.optimizegoogle.com/) (disabled)
 * PrefBar 6.0.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
 * Quick Translator 1.0b2 (http://igorgladkov.com/extensions/translator.html)
 * Quote Colors 0.3 (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/)
 * QuoteCollapse 0.8 (http://quotecollapse.mozdev.org/)
 * ReloadEvery 7.0.0 (http://reloadevery.mozdev.org/)
 * TagZilla 0.066.2 (http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/)
 * TinyUrl Creator 2.0.2 (http://mozmonkey.com/)
 * Vacuum Places Improved 1.1 
 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vacuum-places-improved/?src=api)
 * WOT 2007 (http://www.mywot.com/)
 * jsLib 0.1.367 (http://jslib.mozdev.org/)
 * xSidebar 1.1 (http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/)
 
 

Which two were going to be disabled?

Do they fall under this feature change?

Add-ons are compatible by default now, provided they are declared
compatible with SeaMonkey version 2.1 or better.

Are they?

Add-ons with binary components
Add-ons explicitly marked by the author as incompatible, i.e. opt-out of
Compatible By Default
Add-ons tested and determined to not be compatible with a given version
of SeaMonkey, and marked as incompatible by Mozilla

Quick look shows your ACR is out of date. It has been version 1.0.3 for
awhile now.

Chatzilla 0.9.88 and Adblock Plus 2.0.3 have also been available.

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Re: Recent updates

2012-02-20 Thread WLS
On 02/20/2012 10:39 AM, JAS wrote:
 WLS wrote:

snip

 Which two were going to be disabled?
 Are you replying to Deiree?

Guess I was, but didn't notice this was a reply. Happens sometimes when
you only have Unread selected, and don't pay attention.



 Quick look shows your ACR is out of date. It has been version 1.0.3 for
 awhile now.
 Thanks, I now have updated it now
 Chatzilla 0.9.88 and Adblock Plus 2.0.3 have also been available.
 And have also updated these as well as Tagzilla 0.7a2
 My updates are set to manual
 

I have too much time on my hands, and check for updates when I use the
application, even though I have update automatically selected.

Doesn't appear Desiree wants help.

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Re: SM won't open again

2012-02-19 Thread WLS
On 02/19/2012 03:26 PM, Pat Connors wrote:
 
 This is the second time when a new update happens, I can't open
 SM.??Someone
 kindly?told how to shut off something on the Taskbar but I can't
 manage to do
 that this morning.? Can someone refresh my memory.? Thanks in advance.
 Problem solved, 4.5 hours later!
 

So, thanks for sharing the fix.

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Re: FireBug extension in SeaMonkey ?

2012-02-18 Thread WLS
On 02/18/2012 12:08 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 I had a question about some details of Joomla software that i submit in
 the Joomla Forum.
 A part of the answer was:
 Generally, in these situations you could use the tool FireBug to inspect
 elements and view the css entries.
 The tool FireBug that is available in browsers such as FireFox and
 Chrome could be used for this purpose.
 
 I thinked that SeaMonkey was the nearly same browser as FireFox - and
 expect to find the FireBug add-on for SeaMonkey.
 
 BUT going on
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/tags/display/firebug?appid=59
 
 Did not show me FireBug for SeaMonkey.
 Show me FireBug for FireFox.
 
 So  can i, and how can i: install FireBug into SeaMonkey ?
 
 If not possible, i had to install FireFox on the same computer where
 SeaMonkey is installed.
 Are those installations completely independant ? and may i run both in
 the same time ?
 
 Any idea on how to solve my fireBug problem ?


Just installed Firebug 1.9.1 for Firefox from AMO, in SeaMonkey 2.7
with no problem.

All I did was click Add to Firefox.

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Re: Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page

2012-02-17 Thread WLS
On 02/17/2012 04:26 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 1) Cannot be copied, so makes reporting issues with it
 more difficult than need be;
 
 2) Fails to indicate which plug-ins are required,
 instead inviting the user  to Install plugin ... with
 all the concomitant risks that that might involve.
 
 Philip Taylor

Failed to provide a link so we could check the site.


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