SM 2.53.1 and SM 2.49.5

2020-04-05 Thread xxyyz

I have SM 2.49.5 32 bit on WXP and 64 bit on W7, and have been
synching them by copying the Mozilla folders (C:\Documents and
Settings\username\Mozilla on WXP, C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming
\Mozilla on W7) to and fro, with no problems.

If I put SM 2.53.1 64 bit on the W7 machine, will I still be able
to do this?
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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

2018-09-14 Thread xxyyz

Thank you for the link, FRG.  I don't use the DM, nor the "Don't
allow websites that set removed cookies to set future cookies", so
I don't think the bug discussions apply.

I did, however, figure out the answer to my second question - if I
block all cookies, then allow them from e.g. https://aaa.bbb.ccc,
cookies from https://bbb.ccc are blocked, but aaa.bbb.ccc can set
cookies that say the domain is bbb.ccc - does that make sense?

On 2018-09-14 10:49 AM, kakak wrote:

For some more insight how the permission api operates these days:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1479347

FRG
EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-08 2:01 PM, EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/4/2018 10:09 AM, xxyyz wrote:

If I block all cookies (Preferences/Privacy & Security\Cookies/
Block cookies), then allow session cookies from https://aaa.bbb
(in chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul),
are session cookies allowed from https://xxx.aaa.bbb?



I use the following strategy.  I do not block all cookies.  
Instead, I
allow cookies only from the domain of the Web site I requested.  I 
have

also blocked cookies from selected Web sites, primarily advertising
sites that might have cookies set by my select Web sites.

The key is that I located the file cookies.sqlite in my profile and
marked it as read-only.  All the cookies that get set as I surf 
the Web

are lost as soon as I terminate SeaMonkey.  That is, all of those
cookies are treated as session-only.

Sometimes, however, I want to keep a cookie.  Fortunately, that 
does not

often happen because the process is somewhat cumbersome.  To see my
process, go to <http://www.rossde.com/internet/cookies.html#doabout>.


Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from 
"subsidiary" sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.


If you allow cookies from the second level domain, then they would 
be allowed from one of its specific third level domains as well.



Thank you.  Does the reverse apply - i.e. if I allow cookies from a
specific third level domain, are they allowed from the second level
domain?


No, not normally, unless you use a cookie handling extension that 
specifically allows that.  For my part, there is no way I want that to 
happen with a big domain.






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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

2018-08-09 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-08-09 2:28 PM, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 8/8/2018 7:32 PM, xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-08 2:10 PM, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 8/7/2018 12:00 PM, xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:



Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from 
"subsidiary" sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.


It depends on how the cookie is created.  From 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie:


Domain= Optional
 Specifies those hosts to which the cookie will be sent. If not 
specified, defaults to the host portion of the current document 
location (but not including subdomains). Contrary to earlier 
specifications, leading dots in domain names are ignored. If a domain 
is specified, subdomains are always included.


If you allow cookies from yyy.zzz and a cookie is created without the 
optional "Domain" parameter cookies from xxx.yyy.zzz are not allowed. 
They ARE allowed if the Domain is specified.


Lem Johnson

Thank you.  I think I understand this.

Another question (sort of the previous one in reverse):
If I block all cookies and allow cookies from https://aaa.xxx.yyy,
are cookies from https://xxx.yyy allowed?  I assumed not, but I've
seen several cases where Cookie Manager lists cookies from the
latter.  Does this also depend on whether or not the Domain is
specified in the cookie?



A useful tool for evaluating the options:
https://scripts.cmbuckley.co.uk/cookies.php

Lem Johnson

Thank you, but I must be getting old as I could not figure out how to
use the tool.
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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

2018-08-09 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-08-09 3:08 PM, EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-08 2:01 PM, EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/4/2018 10:09 AM, xxyyz wrote:

If I block all cookies (Preferences/Privacy & Security\Cookies/
Block cookies), then allow session cookies from https://aaa.bbb
(in chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul),
are session cookies allowed from https://xxx.aaa.bbb?



I use the following strategy.  I do not block all cookies.  Instead, I
allow cookies only from the domain of the Web site I requested.  I 
have

also blocked cookies from selected Web sites, primarily advertising
sites that might have cookies set by my select Web sites.

The key is that I located the file cookies.sqlite in my profile and
marked it as read-only.  All the cookies that get set as I surf the 
Web

are lost as soon as I terminate SeaMonkey.  That is, all of those
cookies are treated as session-only.

Sometimes, however, I want to keep a cookie.  Fortunately, that 
does not

often happen because the process is somewhat cumbersome.  To see my
process, go to <http://www.rossde.com/internet/cookies.html#doabout>.


Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from 
"subsidiary" sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.


If you allow cookies from the second level domain, then they would be 
allowed from one of its specific third level domains as well.



Thank you.  Does the reverse apply - i.e. if I allow cookies from a
specific third level domain, are they allowed from the second level
domain?


No, not normally, unless you use a cookie handling extension that 
specifically allows that.  For my part, there is no way I want that to 
happen with a big domain.



Thank you.  That's what I thought, but
(a) I have no extensions (except AB+)
(b) I have all cookies blocked in preferences
(c) I allow session cookies from accounts.google.com and mail.google.com
(to occasionally access my one gmail account) in cookie manager
(d) When I access the gmail account via webmail, cookie manager shows
cookies from accounts.google.com and mail.google.com AND google.com??
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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

2018-08-09 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-08-08 2:10 PM, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 8/7/2018 12:00 PM, xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:



Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from 
"subsidiary" sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.


It depends on how the cookie is created.  From 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie:


Domain= Optional
     Specifies those hosts to which the cookie will be sent. If not 
specified, defaults to the host portion of the current document location 
(but not including subdomains). Contrary to earlier specifications, 
leading dots in domain names are ignored. If a domain is specified, 
subdomains are always included.


If you allow cookies from yyy.zzz and a cookie is created without the 
optional "Domain" parameter cookies from xxx.yyy.zzz are not allowed. 
They ARE allowed if the Domain is specified.


Lem Johnson

Thank you.  I think I understand this.

Another question (sort of the previous one in reverse):
If I block all cookies and allow cookies from https://aaa.xxx.yyy,
are cookies from https://xxx.yyy allowed?  I assumed not, but I've
seen several cases where Cookie Manager lists cookies from the
latter.  Does this also depend on whether or not the Domain is
specified in the cookie?

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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

2018-08-08 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-08-08 2:01 PM, EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/4/2018 10:09 AM, xxyyz wrote:

If I block all cookies (Preferences/Privacy & Security\Cookies/
Block cookies), then allow session cookies from https://aaa.bbb
(in chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul),
are session cookies allowed from https://xxx.aaa.bbb?



I use the following strategy.  I do not block all cookies.  Instead, I
allow cookies only from the domain of the Web site I requested.  I have
also blocked cookies from selected Web sites, primarily advertising
sites that might have cookies set by my select Web sites.

The key is that I located the file cookies.sqlite in my profile and
marked it as read-only.  All the cookies that get set as I surf the Web
are lost as soon as I terminate SeaMonkey.  That is, all of those
cookies are treated as session-only.

Sometimes, however, I want to keep a cookie.  Fortunately, that does not
often happen because the process is somewhat cumbersome.  To see my
process, go to <http://www.rossde.com/internet/cookies.html#doabout>.


Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from 
"subsidiary" sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.


If you allow cookies from the second level domain, then they would be 
allowed from one of its specific third level domains as well.



Thank you.  Does the reverse apply - i.e. if I allow cookies from a
specific third level domain, are they allowed from the second level
domain?
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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

2018-08-07 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/4/2018 10:09 AM, xxyyz wrote:

If I block all cookies (Preferences/Privacy & Security\Cookies/
Block cookies), then allow session cookies from https://aaa.bbb
(in chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul),
are session cookies allowed from https://xxx.aaa.bbb?



I use the following strategy.  I do not block all cookies.  Instead, I
allow cookies only from the domain of the Web site I requested.  I have
also blocked cookies from selected Web sites, primarily advertising
sites that might have cookies set by my select Web sites.

The key is that I located the file cookies.sqlite in my profile and
marked it as read-only.  All the cookies that get set as I surf the Web
are lost as soon as I terminate SeaMonkey.  That is, all of those
cookies are treated as session-only.

Sometimes, however, I want to keep a cookie.  Fortunately, that does not
often happen because the process is somewhat cumbersome.  To see my
process, go to <http://www.rossde.com/internet/cookies.html#doabout>.


Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from 
"subsidiary" sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.

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Blocking/Allowing Cookies

2018-08-04 Thread xxyyz

If I block all cookies (Preferences/Privacy & Security\Cookies/
Block cookies), then allow session cookies from https://aaa.bbb
(in chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul),
are session cookies allowed from https://xxx.aaa.bbb?
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Re: SeaMonkey on Windows XP - [Solved]

2018-06-26 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-04-20 10:20 PM, xxyyz wrote:

Is there anyone out there running SeaMonkey on Windows XP?  If so, I would be 
grateful if they would try the National
Zoo/Smithsonian panda cams on 
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm and post the result.


A fix for this problem has been posted at:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=3040639=02ba286e2717d9344a55e8e9e5d22445

It may be risky, and no guarantees it will work, but I have been running with 
it for 3 days (many power cycles, and many
exit/run SM cycles) with no problems.  Uninstalled Flash, and the pandacams 
work, as do all the vimeo videos, and
various other videos that previously either would not work or required Flash.  
And it works in FireFox as well.

Involves replacing two SeaMonkey files (mozavcodec.dll, mozavutil.dll) with 
Pale Moon versions, and adding a windows
file, vcomp140.dll, if not already there.

Maybe this could be included in the next SeaMonkey release?
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Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

2018-04-25 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-04-25 3:14 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/16/2018 9:47 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/16/2018 7:45 PM, xxyyz wrote:

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
   http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?



No problem here.  I have both Flash and HTML5 Media enabled along with
images from all domains.



I tried this on my wife's Windows XP SP3 PC with SeaMonkey 2.49.2 and
the same settings I indicate above.  I could NOT view the video.  I
suspect that my wife might be missing a codec.

Later, I will get a list of the codecs on both her PC and mine.  If I
see a deficiency in my wife's PC, I will attempt to install the missing
codec there.  Then I will again try to view the video.



Thank you, David.  I will be very interested to see the results
of your investigation.
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Re: SeaMonkey on Windows XP

2018-04-22 Thread xxyyz

Thank you, Frank-Rainer.  I am not looking for changes to SeaMonkey - I
think you/ewong/et al have more than enough to do already.  I was just
hoping there is some S/W (codec or player or ... ) that would let me
play the panda cams (and some other videos that don't currently work).

I went through your link, and the strange thing is that the OP could
see his videos on XP using FF, but not SM.  The thread did not address
this, but it did offer a link to get a plugin for FF:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/175591-enable-mp4-h264-aac-html5-video-in-firefox-on-windows-xp-without-flash/
So I installed FF 52.7.3esr - the panda cams did not work; I installed
the plugin per the instructions in the link, and the panda cams worked!
So I installed the plugin in SM (following the FF instructions) and it
does not show up as a plugin and the panda cams still don't work.

Is there something you have to do in SM (but not in FF) to get it to
recognise and use a plugin?

On 2018-04-22 5:09 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The days of XP as a multimedia platform are long over. Probably a missing codec.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=3034122

I am using XP on another PC with special hardware and also always test new SeaMonkey releases in a VM but anything 
multimedia or Flash related on this platform is probably a big wontfix.


FRG


Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22-04-18 08:04:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Thank you, Fred.  So the panda cams work on every system in the
world except Windows XP!


I have w7/32 and (2) w7/64 comps, with FF, Seamonkey and IE11.
None of the vids on that site work on any of my browsers or o/s's.


WFM on Win7/64 Pro SP1, SM 2.49.2.


The OP need a test with WINDOWS XP ! :-)
Nobody on this group is still on windows XP ?


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Re: SeaMonkey on Windows XP

2018-04-22 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-04-22 4:06 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22-04-18 08:04:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Thank you, Fred.  So the panda cams work on every system in the
world except Windows XP!


I have w7/32 and (2) w7/64 comps, with FF, Seamonkey and IE11.
None of the vids on that site work on any of my browsers or o/s's.


WFM on Win7/64 Pro SP1, SM 2.49.2.


The OP need a test with WINDOWS XP ! :-)
Nobody on this group is still on windows XP ?


Thank you Ray_Net - you're right, but I did get one response from
an XP user - Sjouke Burry - and he sees the same as I do.
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Re: SeaMonkey on Windows XP

2018-04-21 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-04-21 4:17 PM, FredW wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 22:13:50 +0200, FredW <fredw@ninmule.invalid> wrote:


On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 14:44:57 -0400, xxyyz <xxyyz@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

On 2018-04-21 10:12 AM, FredW wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 05:29:13 +0200, Sjouke Burry
<burrynulnulf...@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:

On 21-4-2018 4:20, xxyyz wrote:

Is there anyone out there running SeaMonkey on
Windows XP?  If so, I would be grateful if they
would try the National Zoo/Smithsonian panda cams on
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
and post the result.


"this live event has ended"

So, no, it does not run.


I am looking at a live eating Panda (Cam 1)
And another eating Panda (Cam 2), bare bamboo

   ;-)


Thank you for the response.

Are you on Windows XP?


Sorry, no.
I am on Win7HP64SP2.
I looked with Palemoon 27.9.0
and Vivaldi 1.14.1077.60

On Cam 2 the sleeping Panda just woke up and started eating again.
On Cam 1 no Panda in sight.


And working on Basilisk, version 2018.03.21 (64-bit)



Thank you, Fred.  So the panda cams work on every system in the
world except Windows XP!
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Re: SeaMonkey on Windows XP

2018-04-21 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-04-20 11:29 PM, Sjouke Burry wrote:

On 21-4-2018 4:20, xxyyz wrote:

Is there anyone out there running SeaMonkey on
Windows XP?  If so, I would be grateful if they
would try the National Zoo/Smithsonian panda cams on
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
and post the result.


"this live event has ended"

So, no, it does not run.


Thank you, Sjouke - that's what I get.  At least I'm not alone.

Strange that it does not work on XP, yet works on linux, macs,
ipads, all versions of windows after XP, etc., etc.
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Re: SeaMonkey on Windows XP

2018-04-21 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-04-21 10:12 AM, FredW wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 05:29:13 +0200, Sjouke Burry
<burrynulnulf...@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:

On 21-4-2018 4:20, xxyyz wrote:

Is there anyone out there running SeaMonkey on
Windows XP?  If so, I would be grateful if they
would try the National Zoo/Smithsonian panda cams on
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
and post the result.


"this live event has ended"

So, no, it does not run.


I am looking at a live eating Panda (Cam 1)
And another eating Panda (Cam 2), bare bamboo

  ;-)


Thank you for the response.

Are you on Windows XP?
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SeaMonkey on Windows XP

2018-04-20 Thread xxyyz

Is there anyone out there running SeaMonkey on
Windows XP?  If so, I would be grateful if they
would try the National Zoo/Smithsonian panda cams on
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
and post the result.
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Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

2018-04-16 Thread xxyyz

On 2018-04-16 11:44 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
  http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?


I can't get any of the three cams (lion, panda, elephant) to work with SM or 
IE11.
They all say "Stream Unavailable".  Clicking on the start arrow does not send a 
packet,
at least not for me anyways.
Sounds to me like the cams are not working.

Thank you, Paul.  But all four work on the iPad - so is it
Windows or SeaMonkey or a missing codec or ... ?
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National Zoo Panda Cams

2018-04-16 Thread xxyyz

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
 http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?
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Correcting a password entry error

2017-04-04 Thread xxyyz

When I make a mistake entering an e-mail password, SeaMonkey (2.38)
used to offer a dialogue allowing me to enter the correct one.

Now, no dialogue is offered, just a box saying
"Error with account xx
Sending of password for user xxx...@rogers.com did not succeed.
Mail Server pop.broadband.rogers.com responded: Server error -
Please try again later."

I have to shut SeaMonkey down and run it again (putting in the
correct password!) to get to my e-mail.  I don't screw up the
password very often, but it is a PITA when I do.

Is there anything I can do to get back to the previous behaviour?

Rogers uses Yahoo for e-mail, and I think this started when Yahoo
recently made a number of security-related changes.

No stored passwords.  No add-ons.
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Re: SM 2.39 Data Manager

2015-12-20 Thread xxyyz

On 2015-12-20 6:19 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

You know the Cookie Manager works with the duplicate entries. Remove will just
only remove one scheme so you need to do it twice. The easy fix I am thinking of
is just to show the scheme and maybe the port so that you can distinguish them.
Doing more would need a complete redesign of both Data Manager and the old 
Cookie
Manager. I wouldn't hold my breath for that unless you plan to do it yourself :)

My advice: Upgrade to 2.40 when it's ready. How often do you need to set site
settings anyway? I activated 'Ask for each cookie' so over time the list becomes
more or less static.


I think there is some confusion.  I don't want to remove entries
from Data Manager or Cookie Manager, I want to add entries.

In Preferences/Privacy & Security/Cookies, I set Block cookies.
In chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul,
Cookie Websites, I add a site, allowing Session Cookies.
In SM 2.39, the site is not allowed to set cookies; in SM 2.38
(and many previous generations of SM), the site is allowed to set
cookies.


On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 14:47:36 -0500, xxyyz wrote:


On 2015-12-19 7:47 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

It's a known issue. The entries are really different because they have

different

schemes eg. usually http and https. Data Manager needs to change and display

it

all. Check Bug 1188348 for further progress.

Thank you for the info.  I will keep using 2.38 until this is fixed
(especially Cookie Manager).


On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 00:15:52 -0500, xxyyz wrote:


In SM 2.39, Data Manager seems to be broken - all entries are
duplicated, and cookie manager (chrome://communicator/content/
permissions/cookieViewer.xul) doesn't work.

For example:
mozdev.org  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
mozilla.org addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
  addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow

No problems in SM 2.38.

Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?



   Regards
   Frank-Rainer Grahl







  Regards
  Frank-Rainer Grahl




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Re: SM 2.39 Data Manager

2015-12-19 Thread xxyyz

On 2015-12-19 7:47 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

It's a known issue. The entries are really different because they have different
schemes eg. usually http and https. Data Manager needs to change and display it
all. Check Bug 1188348 for further progress.

Thank you for the info.  I will keep using 2.38 until this is fixed
(especially Cookie Manager).


On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 00:15:52 -0500, xxyyz wrote:


In SM 2.39, Data Manager seems to be broken - all entries are
duplicated, and cookie manager (chrome://communicator/content/
permissions/cookieViewer.xul) doesn't work.

For example:
mozdev.org  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
 downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
mozilla.org addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
 addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow

No problems in SM 2.38.

Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?



  Regards
  Frank-Rainer Grahl




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Re: SM 2.39 Data Manager

2015-12-18 Thread xxyyz

On 2015-12-18 12:32 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

xxyyz wrote:


In SM 2.39, Data Manager seems to be broken - all entries are
duplicated, and cookie manager
(chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul) doesn't
work.


Define "doesn't work"?

Adding a new site to the set of "website can set session cookies"
does not allow the site to set cookies.  Note that site permissions
that were carried over from the previous SM version still seem to
work.



For example:
mozdev.org  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
 downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
mozilla.org addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
 addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow

No problems in SM 2.38.


I don't see the duplications you describe, but I do see

support.mozilla.org Apply Strict Transport Security to subdomains (•)
Block
support.mozilla.org Apply Strict Transport Security to subdomains (•)
Block


The point is that the entries are duplicated - as far as I can tell,
ALL entries are duplicated.  Surely this indicates the Data Manager
is broken?
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Re: SM 2.39 Data Manager

2015-12-18 Thread xxyyz

On 2015-12-18 3:44 PM, EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

In SM 2.39, Data Manager seems to be broken - all entries are
duplicated, and cookie manager (chrome://communicator/content/
permissions/cookieViewer.xul) doesn't work.

For example:
mozdev.org  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
 downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
mozilla.org addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
 addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow

No problems in SM 2.38.

Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?


The SM cookie manager still works for me, though the site permission
list has all but one site listing duplicated.  I had to switch cookie
managers, though, from CS Lite to Cookie Monster, because I was not
able to set the cookie exceptions in CS Lite the way I want any more.


I only use the SM cookie manager; in SM 2.39, adding a new site to
the set of "website can set session cookies" does not allow the site
to set cookies.  In SM 2.38 and earlier, the new site is allowed to
set cookies.  Note that site permissions that were carried over from
the previous SM version still seem to work.
Surely the fact that the entries are duplicated indicates the Data
Manager is broken?
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SM 2.39 Data Manager

2015-12-17 Thread xxyyz

In SM 2.39, Data Manager seems to be broken - all entries are
duplicated, and cookie manager (chrome://communicator/content/
permissions/cookieViewer.xul) doesn't work.

For example:
mozdev.org  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
mozilla.org addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow

No problems in SM 2.38.

Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Wrapping Header Lines

2015-08-06 Thread xxyyz

On 05/08/2015 1:00 AM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

xxyyz wrote on 05/08/15 11:02:

When a received SM email is displayed with All Headers, the header
lines don't wrap.  To see them all, you have to click on each line
and move the cursor to the right.  This is even more noticeable if
there are Attachments, as the header lines stop at the left-hand
edge of the Attachments box.

The lines wrap properly when the e-mail is printed.

How do I get the header lines to wrap when the e-mail is displayed?


You could try View / Message _S_ource (Ctrl+U) displaying the entire
message source, including headers.

This scroll-behavior is a lot better than previously, when text simply
was curtailed at the edge of the pane, and we could not scroll through
to see the text on the latter part of the line. At least now, you can
read it, without going to Message-Source.


Thank you - a nice, clear explanation!
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Wrapping Header Lines

2015-08-04 Thread xxyyz
When a received SM email is displayed with All Headers, the header 
lines don't wrap.  To see them all, you have to click on each line and 
move the cursor to the right.  This is even more noticeable if there 
are Attachments, as the header lines stop at the left-hand edge of the 
Attachments box.


The lines wrap properly when the e-mail is printed.

How do I get the header lines to wrap when the e-mail is displayed?
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SM 2.5 and Router Access

2011-11-27 Thread xxyyz
Since updating from SM 2.1.4 to SM 2.5, I cannot access my SMC 7004 
router web console.  Everything still works fine with IE6 and SM 2.1.4. 
 The problem is described far better than I could do in 
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/881885:


cdgoldin
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1 week ago

I have a similar problem that began with FF8 (or perhaps FF7).

When I try to access my SMC 7400 router, I get the log-on screen 
(http://192.168.2.1/), but when I enter my log-on information, it goes 
to http://192.168.2.1:88/login.htm, and displays


[html] [head] [meta http-equiv=refresh content='0; url=index.htm'] 
[end-head] [end-html]


(where [ and ] have been substituted for the less-than and 
greater-than delimiters, and the word end- has been substituted for 
the oblique end delimiter, so I can actually post the information with 
this forum software)


This is the only source code it shows for the page.

Everything still works fine with IE8, so presumably FF8 cannot interpret 
some of the HTML code between the two screens properly.


Modified November 18, 2011 7:29:19 AM PST by cdgoldin
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Re: SM 2.5 and Router Access

2011-11-27 Thread xxyyz

Thank you for the reply.

ctrl+f5 gives a pop-up saying:
To display this page, the application must send information that will 
repeat any action (such as a search or order confirmation) that was 
performed earlier.

Followed by two buttons:  ResendCancel

Clicking on the Resend button gives the same result.

Clicking on Reload does the same thing.

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Did you try ctrl+f5 to force reload the routers gateway page? as
suggested on that support forum?

~Justin Wood (Callek)

xxyyz wrote:

Since updating from SM 2.1.4 to SM 2.5, I cannot access my SMC 7004
router web console. Everything still works fine with IE6 and SM 2.1.4.
The problem is described far better than I could do in
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/881885:

cdgoldin
0 solutions
4 answers
1 week ago

I have a similar problem that began with FF8 (or perhaps FF7).

When I try to access my SMC 7400 router, I get the log-on screen
(http://192.168.2.1/), but when I enter my log-on information, it goes
to http://192.168.2.1:88/login.htm, and displays

[html] [head] [meta http-equiv=refresh content='0; url=index.htm']
[end-head] [end-html]

(where [ and ] have been substituted for the less-than and
greater-than delimiters, and the word end- has been substituted for
the oblique end delimiter, so I can actually post the information with
this forum software)

This is the only source code it shows for the page.

Everything still works fine with IE8, so presumably FF8 cannot interpret
some of the HTML code between the two screens properly.

Modified November 18, 2011 7:29:19 AM PST by cdgoldin




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Re: SM 2.5 and Router Access

2011-11-27 Thread xxyyz

Rick Merrill wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 27/11/2011 06:28, xxyyz told the world:

Since updating from SM 2.1.4 to SM 2.5, I cannot access my SMC 7004
router web console. Everything still works fine with IE6 and SM 2.1.4.


I have a similar problem with a Cisco Small Business RV042 router. For
some reason, the web console displays totally messed up in Firefox, to
the point of being impossible to use. SRWare Iron works fine, though.



mmm, I wonder if 'web consoles' are checked against W3C?



I don't know how to check the code against W3C - perhaps you could do that?
I know very little about HTML5, but the meta refresh part seems to 
follow HTML5 specifications.
Maybe putting a redirect between head tags is no longer acceptable, 
but I can't find anything in the HTML5 stuff saying this.

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Slow SM 2.x News Groups

2010-06-28 Thread xxyyz
XP/SP3, all updates; SM 1.1.19/2.0.0/2.0.4, no add-ons apart from 
standard plugins.


Compared to SM 1.x, SM 2.x news groups handling is very slow.
It seems to be related to anti-virus?  When MS Security Essentials is 
installed, Task Manager shows SM 2.x and MSSE alternately ramping up to 
100% CPU (while the other ramps down) even when all SM is doing is 
re-checking for new messages and even when there ARE no new messages. 
For the news.mozilla.org server (others are similar), this process takes 
(typically) 90 seconds (sometimes several minutes) to check 14 groups. 
With MSSE uninstalled (replaced by Avira), the process takes around 45 
seconds.  With SM 1.x, the process takes from 0.1 to 5 seconds, with no 
observable AV interaction.


Do others see this kind of behaviour?
Am I doing something wrong?
Is there anything I can do to change this?
Is this a known problem that may get fixed in future SM updates?
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SM 2.x Newsgroups Behaviour

2010-06-15 Thread xxyyz
WinXP Home, SP3, all updates; SM 1.1.19, no add-ons apart from standard 
plugins (Default, QT, Acrobat, Flash, WMP, DRM).  Have installed SM 2.x 
twice (2.0.0 and 2.0.4), but have uninstalled because of NG behaviour 
(Browser and Mail are fine).  As far as possible, ALL settings in SM 2.x 
are the same as in SM 1.x.
1.  Very slow - seems to be related to anti-virus?  When MS Security 
Essentials is installed, Task Manager shows SM and MSSE alternately 
ramping up to 100% CPU (while the other ramps down) even when all SM is 
doing is re-checking for new messages and even when there ARE no new 
messages.  For the news.mozilla.org server (others are similar), this 
process takes (typically) 90 seconds (sometimes several minutes) to 
check 14 groups.  With MSSE uninstalled (replaced by Avira), the process 
takes around 45 seconds.  With SM 1.x, the process takes from 0.1 to 5 
seconds, with no observable AV interaction.
2.  Two servers I subscribe to (Albasani and Datemas) require sign-in; 
in SM 2.x, two sign-ins are required (only one in SM 1.x).

3.  The messages in the Status Bar (bottom right) do not compute:
3.1 There are no new messages on the server shows up before the server 
has been contacted, and goes away while the server is being checked - 
whether there are new messages or not.
3.2 SM 1.x shows, for example, Checking newsgroup N of 14 on 
news.mozilla.org for new messages (where N runs from 1 to 14); SM 2.x 
does not show this.
4.  The Progress Bar (bottom right) does not compute; it takes up to 30 
seconds for the space for the bar to show up, then after another 15 
seconds or so, the moving-to-and-fro partial bar appears.  The full bar, 
growing from left to right, never shows up at all.
5.  About 40% of the time, all the lists of newsgroups under each server 
are expanded when I first click on the Mail  Newsgroups icon; I always 
close them before I exit SM.


Is there anything I can do to change any of this?  Is any of the above a 
known problem that may get fixed in future SM updates?

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