Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-23 Thread Daniel 

Steve Dunn wrote on 23/10/2018 2:33 AM:

On 2018-10-22 04:49, Daniel wrote:
FRG, I've seen "l10n builds", and the problems with it, mentioned for 
years. *What is it* ?? A Real World language?? A Programming 
language?? What??


 An abbreviation of localization.  The 10 stands for the ten letters 
left out between the l and the n.


-Steve


Ah!! It all makes sense, now!! Thanks Steve!!
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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-23 Thread Daniel 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 22/10/2018 10:18 PM:

 >
 > FRG, I've seen "l10n builds", and the problems with it, mentioned for 
years.

 > *What is it* ?? A Real World language?? A Programming language?? What??
 >

Basically all non en-US foreign language builds. Or your native language 
build. Stricktly speaking en-US is an l10n build too but the master here 
and building differently so we are not calling it l10n.


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/L10n

 > But I'm guessing this would make the devs job a hell of a lot more 
difficult.


Not possible without modularized parts. And Firefox goes in a different 
direction with what they call Gecko today. This more or and more becomes 
a bloated mess mixing frontend browser parts with backend Gecko parts. 
Otherwise it would be easier to stay current.


FRG


Thanks for that, FRG.

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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-22 Thread Steve Dunn 

On 2018-10-22 04:49, Daniel wrote:
FRG, I've seen "l10n builds", and the problems with it, mentioned for 
years. *What is it* ?? A Real World language?? A Programming language?? 
What??


	An abbreviation of localization.  The 10 stands for the ten letters 
left out between the l and the n.


-Steve
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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

>
> FRG, I've seen "l10n builds", and the problems with it, mentioned for years.
> *What is it* ?? A Real World language?? A Programming language?? What??
>

Basically all non en-US foreign language builds. Or your native language 
build. Stricktly speaking en-US is an l10n build too but the master here and 
building differently so we are not calling it l10n.


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/L10n

> But I'm guessing this would make the devs job a hell of a lot more difficult.

Not possible without modularized parts. And Firefox goes in a different 
direction with what they call Gecko today. This more or and more becomes a 
bloated mess mixing frontend browser parts with backend Gecko parts. Otherwise 
it would be easier to stay current.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 21/10/2018 8:56 PM:
They contain working versions of chatZilla, DOMi and Lightning. These should 
be in the official builds too but we have problems with l10n builds.


FRG, I've seen "l10n builds", and the problems with it, mentioned for years. 
*What is it* ?? A Real World language?? A Programming language?? What??



Still tracked in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231349

If you only do an en-US build this works fine. If you don't want calendar 
you can disable or remove it in the add-on manager.


I've often thought that, rather than having to download the "whole Box and 
Dice" package and then disable the undesired bits and pieces, perhaps, when I 
want to upgrade, I should be asked which bits I want to download (say Browser, 
M&N and addressbook ONLY whilst others might want M&N, Calendar and Chatzilla 
ONLY), effectively making a package just for me and another, different, 
package just for you, etc. In each case, the Core (Gecko??) would be 
downloaded once, and the other bits added as needs be.


But I'm guessing this would make the devs job a hell of a lot more difficult.


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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-22 Thread Daniel 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 21/10/2018 8:56 PM:
They contain working versions of chatZilla, DOMi and Lightning. These 
should be in the official builds too but we have problems with l10n builds.


FRG, I've seen "l10n builds", and the problems with it, mentioned for 
years. *What is it* ?? A Real World language?? A Programming language?? 
What??



Still tracked in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231349

If you only do an en-US build this works fine. If you don't want 
calendar you can disable or remove it in the add-on manager.


I've often thought that, rather than having to download the "whole Box 
and Dice" package and then disable the undesired bits and pieces, 
perhaps, when I want to upgrade, I should be asked which bits I want to 
download (say Browser, M&N and addressbook ONLY whilst others might want 
M&N, Calendar and Chatzilla ONLY), effectively making a package just for 
me and another, different, package just for you, etc. In each case, the 
Core (Gecko??) would be downloaded once, and the other bits added as 
needs be.


But I'm guessing this would make the devs job a hell of a lot more 
difficult.


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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-21 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
They contain working versions of chatZilla, DOMi and Lightning. These should 
be in the official builds too but we have problems with l10n builds.


Still tracked in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231349

If you only do an en-US build this works fine. If you don't want calendar you 
can disable or remove it in the add-on manager.


The x64 version does imho better with bloated sites and you are unlikely to 
run out of memory early. Same with big mail databases. Otherwise probably not 
much improvement. This would need extensive backports. I am only doing these 
for 2.53. 2.49 is security only and small improvements if possible.


FRG

Ant wrote:

On 10/20/2018 11:15 PM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 21/10/2018 8:26 AM:

On 10/20/2018 2:56 AM, chokito wrote:

Am Samstag, 20. Oktober 2018 01:26:50 UTC+2 schrieb Ant:

Questions:
1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?
2. Is there a
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.win64.zip somewhere?


Always only the latest version is available:
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.5.en-US.win64.zip


Hmm OK. I finally downloaded, extracted, and ran the portable version after 
backing up my profile. I noticed my Mail showed events. Is this a new 
feature for the future versions? I turned it off from its prompt since I 
don't use it. Memory usage seems better when I opened about 18 tabs of 
YouTube videos (not autoplaying). Rendering like on http://news.google.com 
is still slow. It's too early that this is better for me. To be continued...


When you mentioned "events", are you meaning the Calendar/Lightning, Ant?? I 
think there was talk of it being incorporated into the package  or am I 
thinking of Chatzilla??


Yes, Calendar/Lightning thing. I was like what is this doing in here?


And I think wg9s' releases are, sort of, bleeding edge, so it was a good 
idea to back up your profile!!


I did. ;)

However, I went back to my official 32-bit SM after using it since there 
weren't really improvements. I was hoping faster speeds with better memory 
managements with the crazy leaks from badly designed web sites. Oh well! :(

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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-20 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 10/20/2018 11:15 PM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 21/10/2018 8:26 AM:

On 10/20/2018 2:56 AM, chokito wrote:

Am Samstag, 20. Oktober 2018 01:26:50 UTC+2 schrieb Ant:

Questions:
1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?
2. Is there a
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.win64.zip 
somewhere?



Always only the latest version is available:
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.5.en-US.win64.zip


Hmm OK. I finally downloaded, extracted, and ran the portable version 
after backing up my profile. I noticed my Mail showed events. Is this 
a new feature for the future versions? I turned it off from its prompt 
since I don't use it. Memory usage seems better when I opened about 18 
tabs of YouTube videos (not autoplaying). Rendering like on 
http://news.google.com is still slow. It's too early that this is 
better for me. To be continued...


When you mentioned "events", are you meaning the Calendar/Lightning, 
Ant?? I think there was talk of it being incorporated into the package 
 or am I thinking of Chatzilla??


Yes, Calendar/Lightning thing. I was like what is this doing in here?


And I think wg9s' releases are, sort of, bleeding edge, so it was a good 
idea to back up your profile!!


I did. ;)

However, I went back to my official 32-bit SM after using it since there 
weren't really improvements. I was hoping faster speeds with better 
memory managements with the crazy leaks from badly designed web sites. 
Oh well! :(

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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-20 Thread Daniel 

Ant wrote on 21/10/2018 8:26 AM:

On 10/20/2018 2:56 AM, chokito wrote:

Am Samstag, 20. Oktober 2018 01:26:50 UTC+2 schrieb Ant:

Questions:
1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?
2. Is there a
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.win64.zip somewhere?


Always only the latest version is available:
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.5.en-US.win64.zip


Hmm OK. I finally downloaded, extracted, and ran the portable version 
after backing up my profile. I noticed my Mail showed events. Is this a 
new feature for the future versions? I turned it off from its prompt 
since I don't use it. Memory usage seems better when I opened about 18 
tabs of YouTube videos (not autoplaying). Rendering like on 
http://news.google.com is still slow. It's too early that this is better 
for me. To be continued...


When you mentioned "events", are you meaning the Calendar/Lightning, 
Ant?? I think there was talk of it being incorporated into the package 
 or am I thinking of Chatzilla??


And I think wg9s' releases are, sort of, bleeding edge, so it was a good 
idea to back up your profile!!


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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

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On 10/20/2018 2:56 AM, chokito wrote:

Am Samstag, 20. Oktober 2018 01:26:50 UTC+2 schrieb Ant:

Questions:
1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?
2. Is there a
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.win64.zip somewhere?


Always only the latest version is available:
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.5.en-US.win64.zip


Hmm OK. I finally downloaded, extracted, and ran the portable version 
after backing up my profile. I noticed my Mail showed events. Is this a 
new feature for the future versions? I turned it off from its prompt 
since I don't use it. Memory usage seems better when I opened about 18 
tabs of YouTube videos (not autoplaying). Rendering like on 
http://news.google.com is still slow. It's too early that this is better 
for me. To be continued...

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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-20 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

> 1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?

1.) Basically platform support. Now uses VS2017 instead of VS2015 under 
Windows. A bunch of patches backported for this. ewong things we should use 
this with the new infra too so this will stay.


2.) Security backports. See the mozilla-esr60_xx.patch files:

http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/patches/git/mozilla-esr52/mozilla-esr60_449884.patch

More to come here before an official release.

A few wip fixes which still need some work but are stable:

http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/patches/git/comm-esr52/

And also some fixes in review or not yet checked in.

FRG

Ant wrote:

Questions:
1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?
2. Is there a http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.win64.zip 
somewhere?



On 10/12/2018 8:09 PM, Ant wrote:
Thanks! I do use the updated Flash plugins from Adobe. Flash is rarely used 
though. Oops, I meant to say UNofficial 64-bit. :(



On 10/12/2018 1:26 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
You can have both x86 and x64 installed. There is no 64 Bit official 2.49 
available. Everything Windows x64 is unoffical. 2.49.5 has fixes over 
2.49.4 but the profiles are interchangable. Extensions should work in both 
versions. The x64 version only supports Flash if you still use plugins. It 
will update DOMi to 2.0.17.2. I never found the time to put the updated 
version on AMO.


If unsure do a profile backup and just try it. I also use NoScript 5.1.9 
together with uBlock 1.16.4.4. You memory problems might well be tracker 
and third party scripts running amok.


FRG

Ant wrote:
I can't have both 32-bit official (EXE installer) and and 64-bit official 
(portable zip file) installed at the same time? I know I can't run both of 
them at the same time. Also, will my old extensions still work in the 
64-bit portable version? Here is what I have right now:


Last updated: Fri Oct 12 2018 11:19:44 GMT-0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


Extensions (enabled: 5)
* ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.16.1-signed 
(http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) (disabled)

* Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* uBlock Origin 1.16.4.4 (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)
* uBlock Origin Updater 1.6.4 (https://github.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/)


On 10/12/2018 1:43 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I have seen SeaMonkey hit a GB or 2 but not much more. I hope we are able 
to provide an x64 Windows build soon after the new infra is ready. You 
can try this one if you would like to take a test drive: 
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/
Please uninstall your x86 build first. The profiles are compatible. Mapi 
is not Working in x64 TB and SM Windows builds so send from explorer will 
fail. This is an unofficial build with no warranty but most of the the 
additional backports over 2.49.4 where done by me.


FRG

Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X Sierra 
v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM and 500 GB SSD?


2. In my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1, my 32-bit SM is slow with some web 
sites especially with muliple tabs like on YouTube, Google News, 
LinkedIn, etc. For an example, it can go up to almost 3 GB of RAM with 
about 10 HTML5 YouTube video tabs (not playing all at the same time, 
just buffering them with one video playing). I don't have this problem 
in MBP. I wonder if it is capped at 3 GB of RAM since it is a 32-bit 
process even though I am using a 64-bit OS.


I hope someone can answer my technical questions. Thank you for reading. :)

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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-20 Thread chokito 
Am Samstag, 20. Oktober 2018 01:26:50 UTC+2 schrieb Ant:
> Questions:
> 1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?
> 2. Is there a 
> http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.win64.zip somewhere?
> 
Always only the latest version is available:
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.5.en-US.win64.zip
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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-19 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

Questions:
1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?
2. Is there a 
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.win64.zip somewhere?



On 10/12/2018 8:09 PM, Ant wrote:
Thanks! I do use the updated Flash plugins from Adobe. Flash is rarely 
used though. Oops, I meant to say UNofficial 64-bit. :(



On 10/12/2018 1:26 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
You can have both x86 and x64 installed. There is no 64 Bit official 
2.49 available. Everything Windows x64 is unoffical. 2.49.5 has fixes 
over 2.49.4 but the profiles are interchangable. Extensions should 
work in both versions. The x64 version only supports Flash if you 
still use plugins. It will update DOMi to 2.0.17.2. I never found the 
time to put the updated version on AMO.


If unsure do a profile backup and just try it. I also use NoScript 
5.1.9 together with uBlock 1.16.4.4. You memory problems might well be 
tracker and third party scripts running amok.


FRG

Ant wrote:
I can't have both 32-bit official (EXE installer) and and 64-bit 
official (portable zip file) installed at the same time? I know I 
can't run both of them at the same time. Also, will my old extensions 
still work in the 64-bit portable version? Here is what I have right 
now:


Last updated: Fri Oct 12 2018 11:19:44 GMT-0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


Extensions (enabled: 5)
* ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.16.1-signed 
(http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) (disabled)

* Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* uBlock Origin 1.16.4.4 (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)
* uBlock Origin Updater 1.6.4 
(https://github.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/)



On 10/12/2018 1:43 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I have seen SeaMonkey hit a GB or 2 but not much more. I hope we are 
able to provide an x64 Windows build soon after the new infra is 
ready. You can try this one if you would like to take a test drive: 
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/
Please uninstall your x86 build first. The profiles are compatible. 
Mapi is not Working in x64 TB and SM Windows builds so send from 
explorer will fail. This is an unofficial build with no warranty but 
most of the the additional backports over 2.49.4 where done by me.


FRG

Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X 
Sierra v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM 
and 500 GB SSD?


2. In my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1, my 32-bit SM is slow with some 
web sites especially with muliple tabs like on YouTube, Google 
News, LinkedIn, etc. For an example, it can go up to almost 3 GB of 
RAM with about 10 HTML5 YouTube video tabs (not playing all at the 
same time, just buffering them with one video playing). I don't 
have this problem in MBP. I wonder if it is capped at 3 GB of RAM 
since it is a 32-bit process even though I am using a 64-bit OS.


I hope someone can answer my technical questions. Thank you for 
reading. :)

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2018-10-12 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 
Thanks! I do use the updated Flash plugins from Adobe. Flash is rarely 
used though. Oops, I meant to say UNofficial 64-bit. :(



On 10/12/2018 1:26 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
You can have both x86 and x64 installed. There is no 64 Bit official 
2.49 available. Everything Windows x64 is unoffical. 2.49.5 has fixes 
over 2.49.4 but the profiles are interchangable. Extensions should work 
in both versions. The x64 version only supports Flash if you still use 
plugins. It will update DOMi to 2.0.17.2. I never found the time to put 
the updated version on AMO.


If unsure do a profile backup and just try it. I also use NoScript 5.1.9 
together with uBlock 1.16.4.4. You memory problems might well be tracker 
and third party scripts running amok.


FRG

Ant wrote:
I can't have both 32-bit official (EXE installer) and and 64-bit 
official (portable zip file) installed at the same time? I know I 
can't run both of them at the same time. Also, will my old extensions 
still work in the 64-bit portable version? Here is what I have right now:


Last updated: Fri Oct 12 2018 11:19:44 GMT-0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


Extensions (enabled: 5)
* ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.16.1-signed 
(http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) (disabled)

* Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* uBlock Origin 1.16.4.4 (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)
* uBlock Origin Updater 1.6.4 
(https://github.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/)



On 10/12/2018 1:43 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I have seen SeaMonkey hit a GB or 2 but not much more. I hope we are 
able to provide an x64 Windows build soon after the new infra is 
ready. You can try this one if you would like to take a test drive: 
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/
Please uninstall your x86 build first. The profiles are compatible. 
Mapi is not Working in x64 TB and SM Windows builds so send from 
explorer will fail. This is an unofficial build with no warranty but 
most of the the additional backports over 2.49.4 where done by me.


FRG

Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X 
Sierra v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM 
and 500 GB SSD?


2. In my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1, my 32-bit SM is slow with some 
web sites especially with muliple tabs like on YouTube, Google News, 
LinkedIn, etc. For an example, it can go up to almost 3 GB of RAM 
with about 10 HTML5 YouTube video tabs (not playing all at the same 
time, just buffering them with one video playing). I don't have this 
problem in MBP. I wonder if it is capped at 3 GB of RAM since it is 
a 32-bit process even though I am using a 64-bit OS.


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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-12 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
You can have both x86 and x64 installed. There is no 64 Bit official 2.49 
available. Everything Windows x64 is unoffical. 2.49.5 has fixes over 2.49.4 
but the profiles are interchangable. Extensions should work in both versions. 
The x64 version only supports Flash if you still use plugins. It will update 
DOMi to 2.0.17.2. I never found the time to put the updated version on AMO.


If unsure do a profile backup and just try it. I also use NoScript 5.1.9 
together with uBlock 1.16.4.4. You memory problems might well be tracker and 
third party scripts running amok.


FRG

Ant wrote:
I can't have both 32-bit official (EXE installer) and and 64-bit official 
(portable zip file) installed at the same time? I know I can't run both of 
them at the same time. Also, will my old extensions still work in the 64-bit 
portable version? Here is what I have right now:


Last updated: Fri Oct 12 2018 11:19:44 GMT-0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


Extensions (enabled: 5)
* ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.16.1-signed (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) 
(disabled)

* Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* uBlock Origin 1.16.4.4 (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)
* uBlock Origin Updater 1.6.4 (https://github.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/)


On 10/12/2018 1:43 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I have seen SeaMonkey hit a GB or 2 but not much more. I hope we are able to 
provide an x64 Windows build soon after the new infra is ready. You can try 
this one if you would like to take a test drive: http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/
Please uninstall your x86 build first. The profiles are compatible. Mapi is 
not Working in x64 TB and SM Windows builds so send from explorer will fail. 
This is an unofficial build with no warranty but most of the the additional 
backports over 2.49.4 where done by me.


FRG

Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X Sierra 
v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM and 500 GB SSD?


2. In my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1, my 32-bit SM is slow with some web 
sites especially with muliple tabs like on YouTube, Google News, LinkedIn, 
etc. For an example, it can go up to almost 3 GB of RAM with about 10 HTML5 
YouTube video tabs (not playing all at the same time, just buffering them 
with one video playing). I don't have this problem in MBP. I wonder if it 
is capped at 3 GB of RAM since it is a 32-bit process even though I am 
using a 64-bit OS.


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slain, while the town still remains untaken. Such are the disastrous effects 
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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-12 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 
I can't have both 32-bit official (EXE installer) and and 64-bit 
official (portable zip file) installed at the same time? I know I can't 
run both of them at the same time. Also, will my old extensions still 
work in the 64-bit portable version? Here is what I have right now:


Last updated: Fri Oct 12 2018 11:19:44 GMT-0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


Extensions (enabled: 5)
* ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.16.1-signed 
(http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) (disabled)

* Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* uBlock Origin 1.16.4.4 (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)
* uBlock Origin Updater 1.6.4 (https://github.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/)


On 10/12/2018 1:43 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I have seen SeaMonkey hit a GB or 2 but not much more. I hope we are 
able to provide an x64 Windows build soon after the new infra is ready. 
You can try this one if you would like to take a test drive: 
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/
Please uninstall your x86 build first. The profiles are compatible. Mapi 
is not Working in x64 TB and SM Windows builds so send from explorer 
will fail. This is an unofficial build with no warranty but most of the 
the additional backports over 2.49.4 where done by me.


FRG

Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X Sierra 
v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM and 500 GB 
SSD?


2. In my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1, my 32-bit SM is slow with some web 
sites especially with muliple tabs like on YouTube, Google News, 
LinkedIn, etc. For an example, it can go up to almost 3 GB of RAM with 
about 10 HTML5 YouTube video tabs (not playing all at the same time, 
just buffering them with one video playing). I don't have this problem 
in MBP. I wonder if it is capped at 3 GB of RAM since it is a 32-bit 
process even though I am using a 64-bit OS.


I hope someone can answer my technical questions. Thank you for 
reading. :)-- 
"The general, unable to control his irritation, will launch his men to 
the assault like swarming ants, with the result that one-third of his 
men are slain, while the town still remains untaken. Such are the 
disastrous effects of a siege." --Chapter 3 in Sun Tzu's The Ancient Art 
of War (Translated by Lionel Giles)
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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-12 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
I have seen SeaMonkey hit a GB or 2 but not much more. I hope we are able to 
provide an x64 Windows build soon after the new infra is ready. You can try 
this one if you would like to take a test drive: http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/
Please uninstall your x86 build first. The profiles are compatible. Mapi is 
not Working in x64 TB and SM Windows builds so send from explorer will fail. 
This is an unofficial build with no warranty but most of the the additional 
backports over 2.49.4 where done by me.


FRG

Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X Sierra v10.12.6 
on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM and 500 GB SSD?


2. In my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1, my 32-bit SM is slow with some web sites 
especially with muliple tabs like on YouTube, Google News, LinkedIn, etc. For 
an example, it can go up to almost 3 GB of RAM with about 10 HTML5 YouTube 
video tabs (not playing all at the same time, just buffering them with one 
video playing). I don't have this problem in MBP. I wonder if it is capped at 
3 GB of RAM since it is a 32-bit process even though I am using a 64-bit OS.


I hope someone can answer my technical questions. Thank you for reading. :)

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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Ilias 

On 2018-10-11 4:03 p.m., Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X Sierra 
v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM and 500 GB SSD?


On Mac, SeaMonkey has been 64-bit since version 2.1.

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32bit & 64bit SM questions.

2018-10-11 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X Sierra 
v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM and 500 GB SSD?


2. In my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1, my 32-bit SM is slow with some web 
sites especially with muliple tabs like on YouTube, Google News, 
LinkedIn, etc. For an example, it can go up to almost 3 GB of RAM with 
about 10 HTML5 YouTube video tabs (not playing all at the same time, 
just buffering them with one video playing). I don't have this problem 
in MBP. I wonder if it is capped at 3 GB of RAM since it is a 32-bit 
process even though I am using a 64-bit OS.


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