Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Interviewed by CNN on 16/12/2012 03:50, DoctorBill told the world: I ran the Extension, it cleaned out a lot of old garbage, but it also put ICONS into all the Bookmarks ! Didn't expect THAT ! Yeah, it's one of the things I like about CheckPlaces. But it's optional; it can be disabled when setting up the checkup run. Not, however, that it will only check for the presence of a favicon.ico file at the root of the domain. Other sorts of site icons (other image formats, loaded from the page header) won't be preloaded by CheckPlaces. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Sinclair ZX81. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.14.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill I'm no expert, but I have an extension named CheckPlaces 2.6.2 that I have been using for years. When run, it checks all your bookmarks to insure their currency, and provides lists of duplicates, and other categories, and shows where the bookmark is in your hierarchy. When you have a lot of bookmarks, it takes a while to run, but I think it might help with what you want to do. I agree that it would be useful to be able to search for a bookmark containing a given word, and find out where the found bookmarks are in your hierarchy. I'm going to try the suggestions that have been posted when I have some time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Not@home wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill I'm no expert, but I have an extension named CheckPlaces 2.6.2 that I have been using for years. When run, it checks all your bookmarks to insure their currency, and provides lists of duplicates, and other categories, and shows where the bookmark is in your hierarchy. When you have a lot of bookmarks, it takes a while to run, but I think it might help with what you want to do. I agree that it would be useful to be able to search for a bookmark containing a given word, and find out where the found bookmarks are in your hierarchy. I'm going to try the suggestions that have been posted when I have some time. ...unfortunately - http://www.andyhalford.com/index.html Bummer...sounds like something I'd like to have checked out. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Not@home wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill I'm no expert, but I have an extension named CheckPlaces 2.6.2 that I have been using for years. When run, it checks all your bookmarks to insure their currency, and provides lists of duplicates, and other categories, and shows where the bookmark is in your hierarchy. When you have a lot of bookmarks, it takes a while to run, but I think it might help with what you want to do. I agree that it would be useful to be able to search for a bookmark containing a given word, and find out where the found bookmarks are in your hierarchy. I'm going to try the suggestions that have been posted when I have some time. Well apparently some here think that that is a waste of time and need CONVINCING, or else they will ignore your suggestion - if they can understand what you said...lol DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Not@home wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill I'm no expert, but I have an extension named CheckPlaces 2.6.2 that I have been using for years. When run, it checks all your bookmarks to insure their currency, and provides lists of duplicates, and other categories, and shows where the bookmark is in your hierarchy. When you have a lot of bookmarks, it takes a while to run, but I think it might help with what you want to do. I agree that it would be useful to be able to search for a bookmark containing a given word, and find out where the found bookmarks are in your hierarchy. I'm going to try the suggestions that have been posted when I have some time. I found it on the Internet and OK'd 'installing' it, but where is it ! ? Not in my toolbar ! How does it work not@home ? DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: Not@home wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill I'm no expert, but I have an extension named CheckPlaces 2.6.2 that I have been using for years. When run, it checks all your bookmarks to insure their currency, and provides lists of duplicates, and other categories, and shows where the bookmark is in your hierarchy. When you have a lot of bookmarks, it takes a while to run, but I think it might help with what you want to do. I agree that it would be useful to be able to search for a bookmark containing a given word, and find out where the found bookmarks are in your hierarchy. I'm going to try the suggestions that have been posted when I have some time. I found it on the Internet and OK'd 'installing' it, but where is it ! ? Not in my toolbar ! How does it work not@home ? DB Found itSorry. DB -- When all is said and done, more will be said than done. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
On 12/15/2012 10:22 AM, Not@home wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill I'm no expert, but I have an extension named CheckPlaces 2.6.2 that I have been using for years. When run, it checks all your bookmarks to insure their currency, and provides lists of duplicates, and other categories, and shows where the bookmark is in your hierarchy. When you have a lot of bookmarks, it takes a while to run, but I think it might help with what you want to do. See: http://www.andyhalford.com/ However, the version that I have installed (2.6.2) has survived SM upgrages works nicely for me (linux Windows). I agree that it would be useful to be able to search for a bookmark containing a given word, and find out where the found bookmarks are in your hierarchy. I'm going to try the suggestions that have been posted when I have some time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Interviewed by CNN on 15/12/2012 17:16, Rufus told the world: ...unfortunately - http://www.andyhalford.com/index.html Bummer...sounds like something I'd like to have checked out. Well, CheckPlaces IS GPL'd, and even is on GitHub, so it's a matter of finding someone to maintain it, even if Andy Halford is not interested anymore: https://github.com/sss/CheckPlaces -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Starfleet Commbadge. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.14.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 15/12/2012 17:16, Rufus told the world: ...unfortunately - http://www.andyhalford.com/index.html Bummer...sounds like something I'd like to have checked out. Well, CheckPlaces IS GPL'd, and even is on GitHub, so it's a matter of finding someone to maintain it, even if Andy Halford is not interested anymore: https://github.com/sss/CheckPlaces Yeah I did find the 2.6 version elsewhere, and it looks useful. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Not@home wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill I'm no expert, but I have an extension named CheckPlaces 2.6.2 that I have been using for years. When run, it checks all your bookmarks to insure their currency, and provides lists of duplicates, and other categories, and shows where the bookmark is in your hierarchy. When you have a lot of bookmarks, it takes a while to run, but I think it might help with what you want to do. I agree that it would be useful to be able to search for a bookmark containing a given word, and find out where the found bookmarks are in your hierarchy. I'm going to try the suggestions that have been posted when I have some time. I ran the Extension, it cleaned out a lot of old garbage, but it also put ICONS into all the Bookmarks ! Didn't expect THAT ! DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-12-13 10:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. 1. Visit the bookmarked URL. 2. There should be a bookmark icon on the right side of the Location bar. Click on it to edit the bookmark. 3. The 'Edit Bookmark' panel should appear. To the right, after the Folder drop-down menu, there should be a separate arrow. Click on that arrow. That should expand the folder tree, and show you which folder the bookmark is in. I tried visiting a bookmarked item to see this, and fell over at the firt hurdle. *-Picked a bookmark at random, page opens *-Location Bar has an icon at the right end, tool tip shows 'Bookmark this page' *-Click on the icon, red * appears on icon, tool tip changes to 'edit this bookmark' *-Click on the icon, appearance doesn't change, nothing else happens What am I missing? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Rickles wrote: I tried visiting a bookmarked item to see this, and fell over at the first hurdle. *-Picked a bookmark at random, page opens *-Location Bar has an icon at the right end, tool tip shows 'Bookmark this page' *-Click on the icon, red * appears on icon, tool tip changes to 'edit this bookmark' *-Click on the icon, appearance doesn't change, nothing else happens What am I missing? On my location bar (I'm using 2.14.1, just like you), the tooltip reads Edit this bookmark and the icon is a NW/SE angled light green bar with a hairline black border, the top (NW) end being convex and the bottom (SE) end concave. When I click it, I get just what Chris described -- a dialog that allows me to edit the bookmark. To the right of this icon is a downward-pointing triangle that pulls up the recent history of sites I've visited, and then after that is the Search button. I see nothing in the prefs that would allow the user to modify this. Have you installed an add-on that does? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
On 12-12-14 3:42 AM, Rickles wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: 1. Visit the bookmarked URL. 2. There should be a bookmark icon on the right side of the Location bar. Click on it to edit the bookmark. 3. The 'Edit Bookmark' panel should appear. To the right, after the Folder drop-down menu, there should be a separate arrow. Click on that arrow. That should expand the folder tree, and show you which folder the bookmark is in. I tried visiting a bookmarked item to see this, and fell over at the firt hurdle. *-Picked a bookmark at random, page opens *-Location Bar has an icon at the right end, tool tip shows 'Bookmark this page' *-Click on the icon, red * appears on icon, tool tip changes to 'edit this bookmark' *-Click on the icon, appearance doesn't change, nothing else happens What am I missing? The URL you bookmarked was probably redirected to the URL you ended up at. For instance, if you have bookmarked: http://seamonkey-project.org/ then visit that bookmark, you'll get redirected to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote, On 13/12/2012 17:55: Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If one has a large file where one has forgotten where to look in it for an Item, once it is found by a search function, why keep using the search function - why not be able to go into the file and find it yourself. i.e.- If you use the search part all the time, why even HAVE a flop down Bookmark Menu in the first place. You seem to not like the Bookmark Menu - you want to go directly to the Search action ? If so, that is your choice. Why am I trying to convince you...are you one of the SM Programmers ? Anything but : there are many aspects of the current design which I dislike (e.g., the fact that File Bookmark and the next five items scroll out of sight when the bottom of the visible bookmarks is scrolled past) but I genuinely cannot see what you hope to gain by knowing where a bookmark is stored. Are you going to create a new set of bookmarks, each of which is to a page that tells you where each bookmark in which you are interested is stored ? What happens when that list, too, gets too big ? A third-level index ? Convince me it is useful, and I will support you; but at the moment I cannot envisage your need to know, nor the benefit that you hope to derive from the knowledge. Philip Taylor Not useful to find where an old Bookmark was stored ? Not useful ! ? Perhaps you speak about the location of this bookmark in the middle of the bookmarks list. and Philip think you need to know where in the disk file it is. I think Philip is just antagonizing everyone and is bored. I understood the question just fine and have the same thoughtn as at times I may have 2 or 3 bookmarks of the same site in different folders. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Mr Skinner wrote: I think Philip is just antagonizing everyone and is bored. Since ad hominem statements are deprecated on this list, I will simply note that I was neither intentionally antagonising anyone nor in the least bored : I was, as were many others, completely unable to identify what purpose would be served by a solution to Dr Bill's initial request : What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. It later transpired that he was not in the least interested in either of these but in something completely unrelated; where the bookmark was in the bookmarks hierarchy. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Mr Skinner wrote: I think Philip is just antagonizing everyone and is bored. Since ad hominem statements are deprecated on this list, I will simply note that I was neither intentionally antagonising anyone nor in the least bored : I was, as were many others, completely unable to identify what purpose would be served by a solution to Dr Bill's initial request : What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. It later transpired that he was not in the least interested in either of these but in something completely unrelated; where the bookmark was in the bookmarks hierarchy. Philip Taylor A mountain out of a Mole Hill ! Excuse me for not knowing EXACTLY how to frame a question in the correct jargon for some of you experts in this field. Those who come here with a question and who do not know the Jargon, in my opinion, are met with a lot more hostility of late. I do not mean ALL of you. Been coming here ever since I had Mozilla browsers and it used to be much more friendly than it is now. Thank you Ross, Johnson, Ilias, JAS and Ray-Net. I appreciate the help. DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: A mountain out of a Mole Hill ! Excuse me for not knowing EXACTLY how to frame a question in the correct jargon for some of you experts in this field. If one were to ask a garage where to find the camshaft in a 2-stroke engine, and the garage seemed to find the question strange, would it then be reasonable to complain that the garage was making a mountain out of a mole hill when it later transpired that one really wanted to know where to find the spark plug ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-12-13 10:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. 1. Visit the bookmarked URL. 2. There should be a bookmark icon on the right side of the Location bar. Click on it to edit the bookmark. 3. The 'Edit Bookmark' panel should appear. To the right, after the Folder drop-down menu, there should be a separate arrow. Click on that arrow. That should expand the folder tree, and show you which folder the bookmark is in. ...interesting that none of the above works/happens in the Mac version - all that happens is that the url is selected and highlighted in total. Other than that I can drag/drop the url into my Bookmarks Sidebar by grabbing the icon. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:28:27 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote: Rickles wrote: I tried visiting a bookmarked item to see this, and fell over at the first hurdle. *-Picked a bookmark at random, page opens *-Location Bar has an icon at the right end, tool tip shows 'Bookmark this page' *-Click on the icon, red * appears on icon, tool tip changes to 'edit this bookmark' *-Click on the icon, appearance doesn't change, nothing else happens What am I missing? On my location bar (I'm using 2.14.1, just like you), the tooltip reads Edit this bookmark and the icon is a NW/SE angled light green bar with a hairline black border, the top (NW) end being convex and the bottom (SE) end concave. When I click it, I get just what Chris described -- a dialog that allows me to edit the bookmark. To the right of this icon is a downward-pointing triangle that pulls up the recent history of sites I've visited, and then after that is the Search button. I see nothing in the prefs that would allow the user to modify this. Have you installed an add-on that does? I've tried following what you did and no luck - so back to basics: I'm under WIN XP in SMs browser 2.14.1 Under Bookmarks \ Bookmarks Manager \ Bookmarks Menu \ I see the top level of bookmark groups (couple dozen groups with 2-5 levels under them) Selecting one group and then moving to the right screen and selecting one URL, a window pops up down below with text boxes with the name, location and tags; plus a more link. The location bar (text box) shows the URL only, (no green icon at the the right end) and I don't have any tooltips. Any suggestions? I've been collecting these bookmarks for years and would like to gradually get duplicates together where I could find them and to recognize their grouping for some application need. -- JohnW-Mpls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rickles wrote: I tried visiting a bookmarked item to see this, and fell over at the first hurdle. *-Picked a bookmark at random, page opens *-Location Bar has an icon at the right end, tool tip shows 'Bookmark this page' *-Click on the icon, red * appears on icon, tool tip changes to 'edit this bookmark' *-Click on the icon, appearance doesn't change, nothing else happens What am I missing? On my location bar (I'm using 2.14.1, just like you), the tooltip reads Edit this bookmark and the icon is a NW/SE angled light green bar with a hairline black border, the top (NW) end being convex and the bottom (SE) end concave. When I click it, I get just what Chris described -- a dialog that allows me to edit the bookmark. To the right of this icon is a downward-pointing triangle that pulls up the recent history of sites I've visited, and then after that is the Search button. I see nothing in the prefs that would allow the user to modify this. Have you installed an add-on that does? Compact Menu 2 v4.3.1 is the problem. It hides the top toolbar, and makes all those menus available by including a new icon on the navigation bar, to the left of the Back arrow. It must be that function which 'breaks' the pop-up of the Edit menu as described earlier. I'll let the developer know. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Mr Skinner wrote: I think Philip is just antagonizing everyone and is bored. Since ad hominem statements are deprecated on this list, I will simply note that I was neither intentionally antagonising anyone nor in the least bored : I was, as were many others, completely unable to identify what purpose would be served by a solution to Dr Bill's initial request : What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. It later transpired that he was not in the least interested in either of these but in something completely unrelated; where the bookmark was in the bookmarks hierarchy. Philip Taylor A mountain out of a Mole Hill ! Excuse me for not knowing EXACTLY how to frame a question in the correct jargon for some of you experts in this field. Those who come here with a question and who do not know the Jargon, in my opinion, are met with a lot more hostility of late. I do not mean ALL of you. Been coming here ever since I had Mozilla browsers and it used to be much more friendly than it is now. Thank you Ross, Johnson, Ilias, JAS and Ray-Net. I appreciate the help. DB Some enjoy showing off they are above everyone else. How sad. Reminds me of an old saying: If you encounter someone that thinks everything there is to know , run like hell away from them. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjones...@comcast.net ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:28:27 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote: Rickles wrote: I tried visiting a bookmarked item to see this, and fell over at the first hurdle. *-Picked a bookmark at random, page opens *-Location Bar has an icon at the right end, tool tip shows 'Bookmark this page' *-Click on the icon, red * appears on icon, tool tip changes to 'edit this bookmark' *-Click on the icon, appearance doesn't change, nothing else happens What am I missing? On my location bar (I'm using 2.14.1, just like you), the tooltip reads Edit this bookmark and the icon is a NW/SE angled light green bar with a hairline black border, the top (NW) end being convex and the bottom (SE) end concave. When I click it, I get just what Chris described -- a dialog that allows me to edit the bookmark. To the right of this icon is a downward-pointing triangle that pulls up the recent history of sites I've visited, and then after that is the Search button. I see nothing in the prefs that would allow the user to modify this. Have you installed an add-on that does? I've tried following what you did and no luck... I was able to replicate what Chris described in reply to you for the case where the URL in the location bar is not already bookmarked. For example, when the bookmarked page is redirected and the destination is not bookmarked. But once I had the current URL bookmarked, the procedure worked as expected (as I described). ... - so back to basics: I'm under WIN XP in SMs browser 2.14.1 Under Bookmarks \ Bookmarks Manager \ Bookmarks Menu \ I see the top level of bookmark groups (couple dozen groups with 2-5 levels under them) Selecting one group and then moving to the right screen and selecting one URL, a window pops up down below with text boxes with the name, location and tags; plus a more link. The location bar (text box) shows the URL only, (no green icon at the the right end) and I don't have any tooltips. Any suggestions? I've been collecting these bookmarks for years and would like to gradually get duplicates together where I could find them and to recognize their grouping for some application need. I suppose if you could export the bookmarks file to a format such as CSV or XLS, you could sort the table as you pleased in Excel, Access, etc., delete the undesirables, and then reimport. But with several levels of nested folders, that could get complicated. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: A mountain out of a Mole Hill ! Excuse me for not knowing EXACTLY how to frame a question in the correct jargon for some of you experts in this field. If one were to ask a garage where to find the camshaft in a 2-stroke engine, and the garage seemed to find the question strange, would it then be reasonable to complain that the garage was making a mountain out of a mole hill when it later transpired that one really wanted to know where to find the spark plug ? Philip Taylor What !? Now who needs a mind reader ? DB -- When all is said and done, more will be said than done. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
A suggestion about bookmarks
If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. What use would you be able to make of that information if you had it ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
On 12/13/12 7:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill See bug #56418 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56418. Note that this request for enhancement is over 12 years old, first submitted before the current design of the Bookmarks Manager was implemented. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill Mr. Taylor - I would then know where in my Bookmarks to look for the entry if I had forgotten where I put it. My Bookmarks file is HUGE and if I don't use ALL of it often, I forget where (Filename maybe Subfilename)I put the Bookmark. Mr. Ross - So this was requested over 12 years ago and has been ignored all that time. OMG. Probably by people who don't understand WHY it was requested (Mr. Taylor). All the programmers would have to add is another part showing where in the bookmarks the entry is (directory type output). DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: Mr. Taylor - I would then know where in my Bookmarks to look for the entry if I had forgotten where I put it. My Bookmarks file is HUGE and if I don't use ALL of it often, I forget where (Filename maybe Subfilename)I put the Bookmark. But why do you need to know where to look ? The bookmarks manager knows where to look, and looks for you. If it is stored in an SQ-lite database, how do you propose to access the contents, and why is this better than using the bookmark manager provided ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: Mr. Taylor - I would then know where in my Bookmarks to look for the entry if I had forgotten where I put it. My Bookmarks file is HUGE and if I don't use ALL of it often, I forget where (Filename maybe Subfilename)I put the Bookmark. But why do you need to know where to look ? The bookmarks manager knows where to look, and looks for you. If it is stored in an SQ-lite database, how do you propose to access the contents, and why is this better than using the bookmark manager provided ? Philip Taylor If one has a large file where one has forgotten where to look in it for an Item, once it is found by a search function, why keep using the search function - why not be able to go into the file and find it yourself. i.e.- If you use the search part all the time, why even HAVE a flop down Bookmark Menu in the first place. You seem to not like the Bookmark Menu - you want to go directly to the Search action ? If so, that is your choice. Why am I trying to convince you...are you one of the SM Programmers ? DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: If one has a large file where one has forgotten where to look in it for an Item, once it is found by a search function, why keep using the search function - why not be able to go into the file and find it yourself. i.e.- If you use the search part all the time, why even HAVE a flop down Bookmark Menu in the first place. You seem to not like the Bookmark Menu - you want to go directly to the Search action ? If so, that is your choice. Why am I trying to convince you...are you one of the SM Programmers ? Anything but : there are many aspects of the current design which I dislike (e.g., the fact that File Bookmark and the next five items scroll out of sight when the bottom of the visible bookmarks is scrolled past) but I genuinely cannot see what you hope to gain by knowing where a bookmark is stored. Are you going to create a new set of bookmarks, each of which is to a page that tells you where each bookmark in which you are interested is stored ? What happens when that list, too, gets too big ? A third-level index ? Convince me it is useful, and I will support you; but at the moment I cannot envisage your need to know, nor the benefit that you hope to derive from the knowledge. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/13/12 7:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill See bug #56418 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56418. Note that this request for enhancement is over 12 years old, first submitted before the current design of the Bookmarks Manager was implemented. Holy Mackerelno one give a damn, I guess. Twelve years ! People have become addicted to using SEARCH and can't or won't even get up to go look into the file cabinet - too much work I guess. So remove the Bookmarks header and just put Bookmark Search. Even if it is a Bookmark you use oftenLord ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/13/12 7:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill See bug #56418 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56418. Note that this request for enhancement is over 12 years old, first submitted before the current design of the Bookmarks Manager was implemented. My Keyboard bounces and misses keys - sorry for the typos. Needs replacement... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If one has a large file where one has forgotten where to look in it for an Item, once it is found by a search function, why keep using the search function - why not be able to go into the file and find it yourself. i.e.- If you use the search part all the time, why even HAVE a flop down Bookmark Menu in the first place. You seem to not like the Bookmark Menu - you want to go directly to the Search action ? If so, that is your choice. Why am I trying to convince you...are you one of the SM Programmers ? Anything but : there are many aspects of the current design which I dislike (e.g., the fact that File Bookmark and the next five items scroll out of sight when the bottom of the visible bookmarks is scrolled past) but I genuinely cannot see what you hope to gain by knowing where a bookmark is stored. Are you going to create a new set of bookmarks, each of which is to a page that tells you where each bookmark in which you are interested is stored ? What happens when that list, too, gets too big ? A third-level index ? Convince me it is useful, and I will support you; but at the moment I cannot envisage your need to know, nor the benefit that you hope to derive from the knowledge. Philip Taylor Not useful to find where an old Bookmark was stored ? Not useful ! ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote, On 13/12/2012 17:55: Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If one has a large file where one has forgotten where to look in it for an Item, once it is found by a search function, why keep using the search function - why not be able to go into the file and find it yourself. i.e.- If you use the search part all the time, why even HAVE a flop down Bookmark Menu in the first place. You seem to not like the Bookmark Menu - you want to go directly to the Search action ? If so, that is your choice. Why am I trying to convince you...are you one of the SM Programmers ? Anything but : there are many aspects of the current design which I dislike (e.g., the fact that File Bookmark and the next five items scroll out of sight when the bottom of the visible bookmarks is scrolled past) but I genuinely cannot see what you hope to gain by knowing where a bookmark is stored. Are you going to create a new set of bookmarks, each of which is to a page that tells you where each bookmark in which you are interested is stored ? What happens when that list, too, gets too big ? A third-level index ? Convince me it is useful, and I will support you; but at the moment I cannot envisage your need to know, nor the benefit that you hope to derive from the knowledge. Philip Taylor Not useful to find where an old Bookmark was stored ? Not useful ! ? Perhaps you speak about the location of this bookmark in the middle of the bookmarks list. and Philip think you need to know where in the disk file it is. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: Mr. Taylor - I would then know where in my Bookmarks to look for the entry if I had forgotten where I put it. My Bookmarks file is HUGE and if I don't use ALL of it often, I forget where (Filename maybe Subfilename)I put the Bookmark. But why do you need to know where to look ? The bookmarks manager knows where to look, and looks for you. If it is stored in an SQ-lite database, how do you propose to access the contents, and why is this better than using the bookmark manager provided ? Philip Taylor I think he means that if your bookmarks are stored within a series of folders and subfolders, you'd like Search to indicate which folder the found bookmark is in. I have the same complaint about bookmarks search because I forget where I put 'em as well! lj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
On 12/13/12 7:40 AM, WaltS wrote: On 12/13/2012 10:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill In your profile in the places.sqlite database file. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey That is about finding your profile. The original message in this thread, however, is about finding where in the user's bookmarks a particular bookmark is located. That is, when launching the Bookmarks Manager and doing a search on a query string, a list of bookmarks satisfying that string appears without any indication where those bookmarks are located AMONG ALL THE OTHER BOOKMARKS (not in the user's profile), including in which bookmarks folder they might be located. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
On 12/13/12 7:40 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. What use would you be able to make of that information if you had it ? Philip Taylor Given that I might have the same bookmark in two or more different folders, I might want to move one specific instance to a different folder or I might want to delete only one specific instance. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/13/12 7:40 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. What use would you be able to make of that information if you had it ? Philip Taylor Given that I might have the same bookmark in two or more different folders, I might want to move one specific instance to a different folder or I might want to delete only one specific instance. Exactly. Perhaps I didn't explain my suggestion sufficiently that Mr. Taylor was confused about it. ? ? ? ? ? Sometimes one does not use the correct jargon for a specialty field... -- When all is said and done, more will be said than done. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote, On 13/12/2012 17:55: Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: If one has a large file where one has forgotten where to look in it for an Item, once it is found by a search function, why keep using the search function - why not be able to go into the file and find it yourself. i.e.- If you use the search part all the time, why even HAVE a flop down Bookmark Menu in the first place. You seem to not like the Bookmark Menu - you want to go directly to the Search action ? If so, that is your choice. Why am I trying to convince you...are you one of the SM Programmers ? Anything but : there are many aspects of the current design which I dislike (e.g., the fact that File Bookmark and the next five items scroll out of sight when the bottom of the visible bookmarks is scrolled past) but I genuinely cannot see what you hope to gain by knowing where a bookmark is stored. Are you going to create a new set of bookmarks, each of which is to a page that tells you where each bookmark in which you are interested is stored ? What happens when that list, too, gets too big ? A third-level index ? Convince me it is useful, and I will support you; but at the moment I cannot envisage your need to know, nor the benefit that you hope to derive from the knowledge. Philip Taylor Not useful to find where an old Bookmark was stored ? Not useful ! ? Perhaps you speak about the location of this bookmark in the middle of the bookmarks list. and Philip think you need to know where in the disk file it is. Perhaps you speak about the location of this bookmark in the middle of the bookmarks list. Exactly ! Just as was mentioned in the old Bug Listing Mr. Ross gave me. bug #56418 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56418. The SECOND Entry: I think there should be some indication of where the bookmark is located in the (sometimes very big) bookmark tree, or a 'go to bookmark' button, which will open the bookmarks window (it not open) and open the apropriate (sic) bookmark folder and highlight the bookmark in question. Sorry if I was not specific enough One never knows what others interpret (?) DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Lemuel Johnson wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: Mr. Taylor - I would then know where in my Bookmarks to look for the entry if I had forgotten where I put it. My Bookmarks file is HUGE and if I don't use ALL of it often, I forget where (Filename maybe Subfilename)I put the Bookmark. But why do you need to know where to look ? The bookmarks manager knows where to look, and looks for you. If it is stored in an SQ-lite database, how do you propose to access the contents, and why is this better than using the bookmark manager provided ? Philip Taylor I think he means that if your bookmarks are stored within a series of folders and subfolders, you'd like Search to indicate which folder the found bookmark is in. I have the same complaint about bookmarks search because I forget where I put 'em as well! lj Exactamente ! Das ist sehr gute ! Genau ! именно précisément ! DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/13/12 7:40 AM, WaltS wrote: On 12/13/2012 10:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill In your profile in the places.sqlite database file. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey That is about finding your profile. The original message in this thread, however, is about finding where in the user's bookmarks a particular bookmark is located. That is, when launching the Bookmarks Manager and doing a search on a query string, a list of bookmarks satisfying that string appears without any indication where those bookmarks are located AMONG ALL THE OTHER BOOKMARKS (not in the user's profile), including in which bookmarks folder they might be located. Yup ! You hit the nail on the head DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill From the answers I am receiving about this suggestion, I must assume that it will go in the same 'circular file' that the one made 12 years ago went into i.e. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56418 Oh well. I tried. DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: ... Convince me it is useful, and I will support you; but at the moment I cannot envisage your need to know, nor the benefit that you hope to derive from the knowledge. Philip Taylor Not useful to find where an old Bookmark was stored ? Not useful ! ? Not an argument, and certainly not persuasive. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
On 12-12-13 10:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. 1. Visit the bookmarked URL. 2. There should be a bookmark icon on the right side of the Location bar. Click on it to edit the bookmark. 3. The 'Edit Bookmark' panel should appear. To the right, after the Folder drop-down menu, there should be a separate arrow. Click on that arrow. That should expand the folder tree, and show you which folder the bookmark is in. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/13/12 7:40 AM, WaltS wrote: On 12/13/2012 10:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. DoctorBill In your profile in the places.sqlite database file. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey That is about finding your profile. The original message in this thread, however, is about finding where in the user's bookmarks a particular bookmark is located. That is, when launching the Bookmarks Manager and doing a search on a query string, a list of bookmarks satisfying that string appears without any indication where those bookmarks are located AMONG ALL THE OTHER BOOKMARKS (not in the user's profile), including in which bookmarks folder they might be located. Sorry for misinterpreting his meaning of File and directory (File Name). I am glad someone here can read minds. I can't. -- WaltS using Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.2 SeaMonkey Release ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
DoctorBill wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 12/13/12 7:40 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: DoctorBill wrote: The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. What use would you be able to make of that information if you had it ? Philip Taylor Given that I might have the same bookmark in two or more different folders, I might want to move one specific instance to a different folder or I might want to delete only one specific instance. Exactly. Perhaps I didn't explain my suggestion sufficiently that Mr. Taylor was confused about it. ? ? ? ? ? Sometimes one does not use the correct jargon for a specialty field... Good thing we have mind readers in these groups. :) -- WaltS using Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.2 SeaMonkey Release ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A suggestion about bookmarks
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-12-13 10:26 AM, DoctorBill wrote: If I want to find a Bookmark in my HUGE collection of them, I press Ctrl-B, then type in the Key Word. Great - that finds where the Key Word is. Howeverit does not indicate WHERE the link is in my HUGE collection of Bookmarks. It finds it, but doesn't show me WHERE is is ! What File is it in ? The search results should also show what directory (File Name) etc the reference is in. 1. Visit the bookmarked URL. 2. There should be a bookmark icon on the right side of the Location bar. Click on it to edit the bookmark. 3. The 'Edit Bookmark' panel should appear. To the right, after the Folder drop-down menu, there should be a separate arrow. Click on that arrow. That should expand the folder tree, and show you which folder the bookmark is in. Amazing ! Would have never known that that was there ! How many of you responders knew about THAT ? Thank you Mr. Ilias ! DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
