Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-21 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 10:02 PM, Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 7:35 PM, Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 1:28 PM, Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:

Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?

When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.

This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!



I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
my profile:
 user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
 // don't ask for master password until it's used,
 // bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
yet fixed)

The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.



I submitted bug 724296 - I submitted it against the Mac version, as
that's all I use.  I can bear witness that the problem is *not* fixed,
and has remained consistently broken through a *long* series of releases
on the Mac.

My Preferences are set to only ask for the Master the first time it is
needed, and my Mail Prefs are set to not check for new mail manually.
Other than that the only thing I can think of is that SM is polling on
it's own...for what, I can't tell.

I can find no user.js file in my Profile folder...is a user.js file not
part of the Mac structure?  I have a prefs.js file in my Profile(s) -
looking at that file using Text Edit I see:

for Passwords -

user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);

and -

user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);

for Mail -

user_pref("mail.server.server1.check_new_mail", false);


...and yet I *still* see this problem.  *Every* session!



The file prefs.js should not be edited.  Instead, you need to create
user.js in your profile when you make your first entry in it.  Then,
when you launch SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird or Firefox, each of which can
have user.js in its profile), the settings in user.js override the
settings in prefs.js, actually changing prefs.js so that -- if you
delete user.js -- the changed settings in prefs.js remain changed.

You can always change prefs.js by putting about:config in the SeaMonkey
address area.  I prefer doing that only for testing.  When I want a
change to stick, my first choice is to go to [Edit>Preferences].
However, some preferences are "hidden".  In that case, I use user.js
because I can annotate it with comments that remind me what I have done.



Yes - I don't edit these, just inspect them.  But I shouldn't have to go
creating or editing a javascript file or go fooling around with
about:config to get SM to us it's own Preference settings correctly.
Particularly when it appears that SM itself is setting the proper flags.

The bug needs to be addressed and corrected!  SM isn't prompting at
startup, so that part appears to be working - it' when it prompts in the
middle of a session for no apparent reason that is the problem.

...like just now.



I never said that setting a preference variable in user.js is a solution
to your problem.  It is merely a workaround until the bugs are fixed.

In any case, prefs.js and user.js are NOT really JavaScript files.



Ok...so what are they, and what were you suggesting?  I got the
impression you were trying to point me at a correct configuration of/for
a SM generated supporting file.

I'm not a coder, and I wouldn't really know what I'm doing fooling
around with either of them - so I likely won't.  I'd just like the bug
fixed.



1.  Locate your profile folder.

2.  Copy the lines below and paste them into a Notepad or Wordpad window:
user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
// don't ask for master password until it's used,
// bug #560793

3.  Save the result as file user.js in the profile folder.

4.  Terminate and then restart SeaMonkey.



Did all of the above and I still got the same behavior...did not work, 
so that's not the answer.


Besides, I already verified all of these are as above within the SM 
generated prefs.js file - so I didn't expect it to work, but have just 
verified that it doesn't.


There is a bug in SM, and it needs to be fixed!

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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-21 Thread Rufus

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 20 février 2012, Rufus a écrit :


user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);


I have this set to 0. Try it maybe? (through about:config that's easy)



I would have thought that would be a step in the wrong direction (I 
might have doubled it to 180, for instance), but I may give it a try.


I'd still like to see the bug fixed!

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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-21 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/20/12 10:02 PM, Rufus wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/20/12 7:35 PM, Rufus wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/20/12 1:28 PM, Rufus wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:
>>> Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
>>> just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
>>> annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
>>> seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?
>>>
>>> When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
>>> SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
>>> scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
>>> with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
>>> that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.
>>>
>>> This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
>>> set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
>>> needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!
>>>
>>
>> I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
>> my profile:
>> user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
>> // don't ask for master password until it's used,
>> // bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 
>> (not
>> yet fixed)
>>
>> The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.
>>
>
> I submitted bug 724296 - I submitted it against the Mac version, as
> that's all I use.  I can bear witness that the problem is *not* fixed,
> and has remained consistently broken through a *long* series of releases
> on the Mac.
>
> My Preferences are set to only ask for the Master the first time it is
> needed, and my Mail Prefs are set to not check for new mail manually.
> Other than that the only thing I can think of is that SM is polling on
> it's own...for what, I can't tell.
>
> I can find no user.js file in my Profile folder...is a user.js file not
> part of the Mac structure?  I have a prefs.js file in my Profile(s) -
> looking at that file using Text Edit I see:
>
> for Passwords -
>
> user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);
>
> and -
>
> user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
>
> for Mail -
>
> user_pref("mail.server.server1.check_new_mail", false);
>
>
> ...and yet I *still* see this problem.  *Every* session!
>

 The file prefs.js should not be edited.  Instead, you need to create
 user.js in your profile when you make your first entry in it.  Then,
 when you launch SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird or Firefox, each of which can
 have user.js in its profile), the settings in user.js override the
 settings in prefs.js, actually changing prefs.js so that -- if you
 delete user.js -- the changed settings in prefs.js remain changed.

 You can always change prefs.js by putting about:config in the SeaMonkey
 address area.  I prefer doing that only for testing.  When I want a
 change to stick, my first choice is to go to [Edit>   Preferences].
 However, some preferences are "hidden".  In that case, I use user.js
 because I can annotate it with comments that remind me what I have done.

>>>
>>> Yes - I don't edit these, just inspect them.  But I shouldn't have to go
>>> creating or editing a javascript file or go fooling around with
>>> about:config to get SM to us it's own Preference settings correctly.
>>> Particularly when it appears that SM itself is setting the proper flags.
>>>
>>> The bug needs to be addressed and corrected!  SM isn't prompting at
>>> startup, so that part appears to be working - it' when it prompts in the
>>> middle of a session for no apparent reason that is the problem.
>>>
>>> ...like just now.
>>>
>>
>> I never said that setting a preference variable in user.js is a solution
>> to your problem.  It is merely a workaround until the bugs are fixed.
>>
>> In any case, prefs.js and user.js are NOT really JavaScript files.
>>
> 
> Ok...so what are they, and what were you suggesting?  I got the 
> impression you were trying to point me at a correct configuration of/for 
> a SM generated supporting file.
> 
> I'm not a coder, and I wouldn't really know what I'm doing fooling 
> around with either of them - so I likely won't.  I'd just like the bug 
> fixed.
> 

1.  Locate your profile folder.

2.  Copy the lines below and paste them into a Notepad or Wordpad window:
user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
// don't ask for master password until it's used,
// bug #560793

3.  Save the result as file user.js in the profile folder.

4.  Terminate and then restart SeaMonkey.

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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-21 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 20 février 2012, Rufus a écrit :


user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);


I have this set to 0. Try it maybe? (through about:config that's easy)

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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 7:35 PM, Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 1:28 PM, Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:

Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?

When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.

This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!



I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
my profile:
user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
// don't ask for master password until it's used,
// bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
yet fixed)

The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.



I submitted bug 724296 - I submitted it against the Mac version, as
that's all I use.  I can bear witness that the problem is *not* fixed,
and has remained consistently broken through a *long* series of releases
on the Mac.

My Preferences are set to only ask for the Master the first time it is
needed, and my Mail Prefs are set to not check for new mail manually.
Other than that the only thing I can think of is that SM is polling on
it's own...for what, I can't tell.

I can find no user.js file in my Profile folder...is a user.js file not
part of the Mac structure?  I have a prefs.js file in my Profile(s) -
looking at that file using Text Edit I see:

for Passwords -

user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);

and -

user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);

for Mail -

user_pref("mail.server.server1.check_new_mail", false);


...and yet I *still* see this problem.  *Every* session!



The file prefs.js should not be edited.  Instead, you need to create
user.js in your profile when you make your first entry in it.  Then,
when you launch SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird or Firefox, each of which can
have user.js in its profile), the settings in user.js override the
settings in prefs.js, actually changing prefs.js so that -- if you
delete user.js -- the changed settings in prefs.js remain changed.

You can always change prefs.js by putting about:config in the SeaMonkey
address area.  I prefer doing that only for testing.  When I want a
change to stick, my first choice is to go to [Edit>   Preferences].
However, some preferences are "hidden".  In that case, I use user.js
because I can annotate it with comments that remind me what I have done.



Yes - I don't edit these, just inspect them.  But I shouldn't have to go
creating or editing a javascript file or go fooling around with
about:config to get SM to us it's own Preference settings correctly.
Particularly when it appears that SM itself is setting the proper flags.

The bug needs to be addressed and corrected!  SM isn't prompting at
startup, so that part appears to be working - it' when it prompts in the
middle of a session for no apparent reason that is the problem.

...like just now.



I never said that setting a preference variable in user.js is a solution
to your problem.  It is merely a workaround until the bugs are fixed.

In any case, prefs.js and user.js are NOT really JavaScript files.



Ok...so what are they, and what were you suggesting?  I got the 
impression you were trying to point me at a correct configuration of/for 
a SM generated supporting file.


I'm not a coder, and I wouldn't really know what I'm doing fooling 
around with either of them - so I likely won't.  I'd just like the bug 
fixed.


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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/20/12 7:35 PM, Rufus wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/20/12 1:28 PM, Rufus wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:
> Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
> just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
> annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
> seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?
>
> When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
> SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
> scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
> with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
> that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.
>
> This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
> set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
> needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!
>

 I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
 my profile:
user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
// don't ask for master password until it's used,
// bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
 yet fixed)

 The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.

>>>
>>> I submitted bug 724296 - I submitted it against the Mac version, as
>>> that's all I use.  I can bear witness that the problem is *not* fixed,
>>> and has remained consistently broken through a *long* series of releases
>>> on the Mac.
>>>
>>> My Preferences are set to only ask for the Master the first time it is
>>> needed, and my Mail Prefs are set to not check for new mail manually.
>>> Other than that the only thing I can think of is that SM is polling on
>>> it's own...for what, I can't tell.
>>>
>>> I can find no user.js file in my Profile folder...is a user.js file not
>>> part of the Mac structure?  I have a prefs.js file in my Profile(s) -
>>> looking at that file using Text Edit I see:
>>>
>>> for Passwords -
>>>
>>> user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);
>>>
>>> and -
>>>
>>> user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
>>>
>>> for Mail -
>>>
>>> user_pref("mail.server.server1.check_new_mail", false);
>>>
>>>
>>> ...and yet I *still* see this problem.  *Every* session!
>>>
>>
>> The file prefs.js should not be edited.  Instead, you need to create
>> user.js in your profile when you make your first entry in it.  Then,
>> when you launch SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird or Firefox, each of which can
>> have user.js in its profile), the settings in user.js override the
>> settings in prefs.js, actually changing prefs.js so that -- if you
>> delete user.js -- the changed settings in prefs.js remain changed.
>>
>> You can always change prefs.js by putting about:config in the SeaMonkey
>> address area.  I prefer doing that only for testing.  When I want a
>> change to stick, my first choice is to go to [Edit>  Preferences].
>> However, some preferences are "hidden".  In that case, I use user.js
>> because I can annotate it with comments that remind me what I have done.
>>
> 
> Yes - I don't edit these, just inspect them.  But I shouldn't have to go 
> creating or editing a javascript file or go fooling around with 
> about:config to get SM to us it's own Preference settings correctly. 
> Particularly when it appears that SM itself is setting the proper flags.
> 
> The bug needs to be addressed and corrected!  SM isn't prompting at 
> startup, so that part appears to be working - it' when it prompts in the 
> middle of a session for no apparent reason that is the problem.
> 
> ...like just now.
> 

I never said that setting a preference variable in user.js is a solution
to your problem.  It is merely a workaround until the bugs are fixed.

In any case, prefs.js and user.js are NOT really JavaScript files.

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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread Rufus

PhillipJones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:

Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
seemingly required. What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?

When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
scratch. SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.

This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
needs some *attention*! PUHLEEZ!



I do not see this problem. I have the following in the user.js file in
my profile:
user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
// don't ask for master password until it's used,
// bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
yet fixed)

The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.



That the way SeaMonkey , and even back to Mozilla works If you have a
Password set. The windows asking the password comes up before it will
even open.
works the same in SeaMonkey 2.0.14 and 2.10.1a



That's not the problem - that portion of the Pref setting is working 
fine.  The problem is that it asks seemingly at some seemingly random 
interval *after* SM starts without the Master being required; i.e.: no 
user navigation to a requirement or Mail request.



I think is better than system FF has where you can simply cancel when it
come up and run un protected. IN SM if you have a Password and you
forget it you can't get in, the only way is to, remove everything to do
with SeaMonkey Preferences and the application and reinstall.



In this case, if it prompts during a download it not only interrupts the 
download but *freezes* SM.  The only recourse is to Force Quit SM and 
lose the entire session.  If no download is in progress (like just 
occurred now...) I can either Cancel or enter the Master and continue.


I just hit Cancel for one of these random requests for Master and sent 
this post.  So it has nothing to do with my Mail connection.  I 
gather...whatever the reason, it's annoying as *hell*.


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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread PhillipJones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:

Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?

When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.

This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!



I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
my profile:
  user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
  // don't ask for master password until it's used,
  // bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
yet fixed)

The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.



That the way SeaMonkey , and even back to Mozilla works If you have a 
Password set. The windows asking the password comes up before it will 
even open.

 works the same in SeaMonkey 2.0.14 and 2.10.1a

I think is better than system FF has where you can simply cancel when it 
come up and run un protected. IN SM if you have a Password and you 
forget it you can't get in, the only way is to, remove everything to do 
with SeaMonkey Preferences and the application and reinstall.


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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 1:28 PM, Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:

Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?

When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.

This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!



I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
my profile:
   user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
   // don't ask for master password until it's used,
   // bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
yet fixed)

The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.



I submitted bug 724296 - I submitted it against the Mac version, as
that's all I use.  I can bear witness that the problem is *not* fixed,
and has remained consistently broken through a *long* series of releases
on the Mac.

My Preferences are set to only ask for the Master the first time it is
needed, and my Mail Prefs are set to not check for new mail manually.
Other than that the only thing I can think of is that SM is polling on
it's own...for what, I can't tell.

I can find no user.js file in my Profile folder...is a user.js file not
part of the Mac structure?  I have a prefs.js file in my Profile(s) -
looking at that file using Text Edit I see:

for Passwords -

user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);

and -

user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);

for Mail -

user_pref("mail.server.server1.check_new_mail", false);


...and yet I *still* see this problem.  *Every* session!



The file prefs.js should not be edited.  Instead, you need to create
user.js in your profile when you make your first entry in it.  Then,
when you launch SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird or Firefox, each of which can
have user.js in its profile), the settings in user.js override the
settings in prefs.js, actually changing prefs.js so that -- if you
delete user.js -- the changed settings in prefs.js remain changed.

You can always change prefs.js by putting about:config in the SeaMonkey
address area.  I prefer doing that only for testing.  When I want a
change to stick, my first choice is to go to [Edit>  Preferences].
However, some preferences are "hidden".  In that case, I use user.js
because I can annotate it with comments that remind me what I have done.



Yes - I don't edit these, just inspect them.  But I shouldn't have to go 
creating or editing a javascript file or go fooling around with 
about:config to get SM to us it's own Preference settings correctly. 
Particularly when it appears that SM itself is setting the proper flags.


The bug needs to be addressed and corrected!  SM isn't prompting at 
startup, so that part appears to be working - it' when it prompts in the 
middle of a session for no apparent reason that is the problem.


...like just now.

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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/20/12 1:28 PM, Rufus wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:
>>> Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
>>> just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
>>> annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
>>> seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?
>>>
>>> When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
>>> SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
>>> scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
>>> with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
>>> that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.
>>>
>>> This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
>>> set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
>>> needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!
>>>
>>
>> I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
>> my profile:
>>   user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
>>   // don't ask for master password until it's used,
>>   // bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
>> yet fixed)
>>
>> The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.
>>
> 
> I submitted bug 724296 - I submitted it against the Mac version, as 
> that's all I use.  I can bear witness that the problem is *not* fixed, 
> and has remained consistently broken through a *long* series of releases 
> on the Mac.
> 
> My Preferences are set to only ask for the Master the first time it is 
> needed, and my Mail Prefs are set to not check for new mail manually. 
> Other than that the only thing I can think of is that SM is polling on 
> it's own...for what, I can't tell.
> 
> I can find no user.js file in my Profile folder...is a user.js file not 
> part of the Mac structure?  I have a prefs.js file in my Profile(s) - 
> looking at that file using Text Edit I see:
> 
> for Passwords -
> 
> user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);
> 
> and -
> 
> user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
> 
> for Mail -
> 
> user_pref("mail.server.server1.check_new_mail", false);
> 
> 
> ...and yet I *still* see this problem.  *Every* session!
> 

The file prefs.js should not be edited.  Instead, you need to create
user.js in your profile when you make your first entry in it.  Then,
when you launch SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird or Firefox, each of which can
have user.js in its profile), the settings in user.js override the
settings in prefs.js, actually changing prefs.js so that -- if you
delete user.js -- the changed settings in prefs.js remain changed.

You can always change prefs.js by putting about:config in the SeaMonkey
address area.  I prefer doing that only for testing.  When I want a
change to stick, my first choice is to go to [Edit > Preferences].
However, some preferences are "hidden".  In that case, I use user.js
because I can annotate it with comments that remind me what I have done.

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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:

Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's
just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most
annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not
seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?

When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit
SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from
scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord
with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so
that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.

This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password
set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and
needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!



I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
my profile:
  user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
  // don't ask for master password until it's used,
  // bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
yet fixed)

The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.



I submitted bug 724296 - I submitted it against the Mac version, as 
that's all I use.  I can bear witness that the problem is *not* fixed, 
and has remained consistently broken through a *long* series of releases 
on the Mac.


My Preferences are set to only ask for the Master the first time it is 
needed, and my Mail Prefs are set to not check for new mail manually. 
Other than that the only thing I can think of is that SM is polling on 
it's own...for what, I can't tell.


I can find no user.js file in my Profile folder...is a user.js file not 
part of the Mac structure?  I have a prefs.js file in my Profile(s) - 
looking at that file using Text Edit I see:


for Passwords -

user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);

and -

user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);

for Mail -

user_pref("mail.server.server1.check_new_mail", false);


...and yet I *still* see this problem.  *Every* session!

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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/20/12 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote:
> Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's 
> just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most 
> annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not 
> seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?
> 
> When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit 
> SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from 
> scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord 
> with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so 
> that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.
> 
> This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password 
> set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and 
> needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!
> 

I do not see this problem.  I have the following in the user.js file in
my profile:
 user_pref("signon.startup.prompt", false);
 // don't ask for master password until it's used,
 // bugs #338549 (fixed?), #560792 (not yet fixed), and #560793 (not
yet fixed)

The indicated status of those three bugs is as of 2 Feb.

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David E. Ross
.

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AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

2012-02-20 Thread Rufus
Ok - I submitted a formal bug on this at the 2.6.1 release, but it's 
just happened again under SM 2.7.2 and it's about THE single most 
annoying SM bug I can think of - prompt for Master Password when not 
seemingly required.  What is SM doing, and how do I STOP it?!?!?


When this happens during a download SM freezes and I have to Force Quit 
SM and lose the entire session - and the download - and start over from 
scratch.  SM either needs to be fixed to ask for the Master in accord 
with user Preference (like it once did...) OR is needs to be fixed so 
that it doesn't hang and freeze if this happens.


This doesn't occur in Profiles in which I don't have a Master Password 
set...but this has been broken since version 1.1.16 or thereabouts and 
needs some *attention*!  PUHLEEZ!


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