Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-09 Thread Keith Whaley

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 12-01-07 8:54 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 01/06/2012 01:47 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I never did this, but Shift-A is such a common keystroke combination
that I can't believe any competent designer would use it for a specific
function.

I see that all my accounts are set to create archives, which is
disturbing because I used to have folders by that name, with contents,
and they're gone!



That sounds like a critical bug. Have you filed a bug report?



For Thunderbird, the plan is to provide some sort of notification when
you first use the archive shortcut.
See https://bug511741.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=528851
I assume that would be adopted by SeaMonkey. But I'm just assuming.

However, that isn't because Shift-A is considered a common
keystroke. It's because the shortcut in Thunderbird and Mac versions of
SeaMonkey is just A. And /that/ is too easy to hit unintentionally. :)

When it was implemented in SeaMonkey, Shift-A was chosen instead,
but for some reason, the Mac version was kept at A. And Keith Whaley
(the person who started this thread) is on Mac.


Hi Chris.

Not sure what you're saying. My Mac shows the Archive command under the 
menu bar item Message drop-down and it's Shift-A. Oh, I'm using SM 
v.2.5.


keith
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Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-09 Thread Chris Ilias

On 12-01-09 3:12 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


For Thunderbird, the plan is to provide some sort of notification when
you first use the archive shortcut.
See https://bug511741.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=528851
I assume that would be adopted by SeaMonkey. But I'm just assuming.

However, that isn't because Shift-A is considered a common
keystroke. It's because the shortcut in Thunderbird and Mac versions of
SeaMonkey is just A. And /that/ is too easy to hit unintentionally. :)

When it was implemented in SeaMonkey, Shift-A was chosen instead,
but for some reason, the Mac version was kept at A. And Keith Whaley
(the person who started this thread) is on Mac.


Not sure what you're saying. My Mac shows the Archive command under the
menu bar item Message drop-down and it's Shift-A. Oh, I'm using SM
v.2.5.


Oops. Sorry about that. Somewhere in reading the bugs and testing it, I 
got that mixed.


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Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-09 Thread Jens Hatlak

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 12-01-09 3:12 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

However, that isn't because Shift-A is considered a common
keystroke. It's because the shortcut in Thunderbird and Mac versions of
SeaMonkey is just A. And /that/ is too easy to hit unintentionally. :)

When it was implemented in SeaMonkey, Shift-A was chosen instead,
but for some reason, the Mac version was kept at A. And Keith Whaley
(the person who started this thread) is on Mac.


Not sure what you're saying. My Mac shows the Archive command under the
menu bar item Message drop-down and it's Shift-A. Oh, I'm using SM
v.2.5.


Oops. Sorry about that. Somewhere in reading the bugs and testing it, I
got that mixed.


Right. I know very little about Mac (we have Stefan for that :-P), but I 
was pretty sure we use Shift+A on all platforms. When the TB guys were 
still in the implementation phase of the initial feature support, I 
noticed the bad shortcut choice and added Shift for us. I thought the 
problem was was obvious (and even left a comment for them), but they 
went with plain A anyway. Well, their choice. No need to repeat (or 
port) mistakes.


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-08 Thread Chris Ilias

On 12-01-07 8:54 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 01/06/2012 01:47 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I never did this, but Shift-A is such a common keystroke combination
that I can't believe any competent designer would use it for a specific
function.

I see that all my accounts are set to create archives, which is
disturbing because I used to have folders by that name, with contents,
and they're gone!


That sounds like a critical bug. Have you filed a bug report?


For Thunderbird, the plan is to provide some sort of notification when 
you first use the archive shortcut.

See https://bug511741.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=528851
I assume that would be adopted by SeaMonkey. But I'm just assuming.

However, that isn't because Shift-A is considered a common 
keystroke. It's because the shortcut in Thunderbird and Mac versions of 
SeaMonkey is just A. And /that/ is too easy to hit unintentionally. :)


When it was implemented in SeaMonkey, Shift-A was chosen instead, 
but for some reason, the Mac version was kept at A. And Keith Whaley 
(the person who started this thread) is on Mac.


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Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-07 Thread NoOp
On 01/06/2012 01:47 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 
 Keith Whaley wrote:
 The other day I noticed a new folder in my SM lineup called Archives.

 What caused that to show up? Was it part of v.2.5 SM and I never noticed
 it until now?

 From time to time, I notice new messages in there, in sub-folders
 titled 2011 or 2012. I don't recall setting up rules to move messages
 there.
 What's going on, please?

 I guess you pressed Shift+A at some point in time...

 Cf. Edit / Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings / account / Copies 
 Folders / Archive Options
 
 I never did this, but Shift-A is such a common keystroke combination 
 that I can't believe any competent designer would use it for a specific 
 function.
 
 I see that all my accounts are set to create archives, which is 
 disturbing because I used to have folders by that name, with contents, 
 and they're gone!
 

That sounds like a critical bug. Have you filed a bug report?


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Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

NoOp wrote:


On 01/06/2012 01:47 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:


Keith Whaley wrote:

The other day I noticed a new folder in my SM lineup called Archives.

What caused that to show up? Was it part of v.2.5 SM and I never noticed
it until now?

 From time to time, I notice new messages in there, in sub-folders
titled 2011 or 2012. I don't recall setting up rules to move messages
there.
What's going on, please?


I guess you pressed Shift+A at some point in time...

Cf. Edit / Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings /account  / Copies
Folders / Archive Options


I never did this, but Shift-A is such a common keystroke combination
that I can't believe any competent designer would use it for a specific
function.

I see that all my accounts are set to create archives, which is
disturbing because I used to have folders by that name, with contents,
and they're gone!


That sounds like a critical bug. Have you filed a bug report?


Not yet, for several reasons:

1) I recently had a computer crash (thought it was bad RAM, turned out 
to be a bad motherboard), so some files that I thought were backed up 
turned out to be corrupted. I've been gradually going through older and 
older versions to recover what I can, which brings me to:


2) I didn't have my folder structure memorized, so I can't be absolutely 
sure off the top of my head what's missing and what's intact and what's 
just my approaching senility. If I file a bug, I want to be sure to 
speak accurately; I don't want to guess or fudge and waste someone's time.


3) I've never filed a bug before, so there'll be a learning curve, and 
right now I'm focused on learning Windows 7 (not the same as WinXP) and 
meeting deadlines. The new machine is way faster, but not everything is 
where I left it, and not everything works the same way.


Still, I brought the issue up in case others have experienced it and 
have a better handle on it.


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Archive folder?

2012-01-06 Thread Keith Whaley

I use a Mac and am operating from OS 10.6.8.

I also use SeaMonkey v.2.5.

The other day I noticed a new folder in my SM lineup called Archives.

What caused that to show up? Was it part of v.2.5 SM and I never noticed 
it until now?


From time to time, I notice new messages in there, in sub-folders 
titled 2011 or 2012. I don't recall setting up rules to move messages there.

What's going on, please?

Thanks,  keith whaley
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Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-06 Thread Jens Hatlak

Keith Whaley wrote:

The other day I noticed a new folder in my SM lineup called Archives.

What caused that to show up? Was it part of v.2.5 SM and I never noticed
it until now?

From time to time, I notice new messages in there, in sub-folders
titled 2011 or 2012. I don't recall setting up rules to move messages
there.
What's going on, please?


I guess you pressed Shift+A at some point in time...

Cf. Edit / Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings / account / Copies  
Folders / Archive Options


HTH

Jens

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