OT: OST-File (Was: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?)

2018-12-18 Thread Wolfgang Steger

Am 18.12.18 um 15:32 schrieb Paul in Houston, TX:
[...]
I use the Enterprise version of Outlook and it stores all emails in one 
large *.ost file.

Mine is currently ~3.5 GB.
Afaik, no Win o/s has stored files of the same name in the same folder.
Maybe because it was based on the dos 8.3 system.



Completely off-topic, but an OST-File is just a mirror of an Exchange 
mailbox for offline use.
Used to contain the whole mailbox, but since Outlook 2013 or 2016 it can 
also be filtered to contain only newer parts of it.


On the other hand, Outlook without Exchange uses ".PST"-Files, each one 
containing a whole mailbox with inbox, outbox, other folders, calendars 
and contacts etc.


Btw, no filesystem I know can store different files with the same name 
in the same folder.


Just my 2cc, Wolfgang

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-18 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Daniel wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 18/12/2018 6:15 AM:

Ant wrote:

I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into another 
folder and
then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?


My guess is that it is by SM design.
My old SM 2.26.1 does the same as yours.

My MS Outlook does allow direct multiple copies to the same folder without any 
name
changes.


As I understand it, SM stores your e-mails in one big file, e.g. inbox, 
controlled by SM,
whereas, as I understand it MS Outlook stores its e-mails as individual files 
on the HD so
under the control of the OS, e.g. Win 7 or Win 10.

So, if Windows allows multiple, similarly named files, MS Outlook would also!!

Or am I wrong??


I use the Enterprise version of Outlook and it stores all emails in one large 
*.ost file.
Mine is currently ~3.5 GB.
Afaik, no Win o/s has stored files of the same name in the same folder.
Maybe because it was based on the dos 8.3 system.

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-18 Thread Daniel

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 18/12/2018 6:15 AM:

Ant wrote:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and

then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?


My guess is that it is by SM design.
My old SM 2.26.1 does the same as yours.

My MS Outlook does allow direct multiple copies to the same folder 
without any name changes.


As I understand it, SM stores your e-mails in one big file, e.g. inbox, 
controlled by SM, whereas, as I understand it MS Outlook stores its 
e-mails as individual files on the HD so under the control of the OS, 
e.g. Win 7 or Win 10.


So, if Windows allows multiple, similarly named files, MS Outlook would 
also!!


Or am I wrong??

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-18 Thread Ray_Net

Ant wrote on 18-12-18 03:18:

On 12/17/2018 8:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy 
into another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug 
or by design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


This is what I was expecting. W7 does it too. I assume other versions 
as well.

You may dream ...
And why did you need twice the same mail (with or without "-Copy" 
appended to the subject), in the same folder ?

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-17 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 12/17/2018 8:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


This is what I was expecting. W7 does it too. I assume other versions as 
well.

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-17 Thread Ray_Net

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 17-12-18 20:15:

Ant wrote:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and

then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?


My guess is that it is by SM design.
My old SM 2.26.1 does the same as yours.

My MS Outlook does allow direct multiple copies to the same folder 
without any name changes.


Outlook, for me, is stupid. there is no need to duplicate a mail in the 
same folder.

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-17 Thread Ray_Net

Ed Mullen wrote on 17-12-18 17:56:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy 
into another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug 
or by design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


I know that. It was just to compare windows file management ans 
SeaMonkey mail managemnt.
Seamonkey cannot append " - Copy" to a mail, so it's normal that it 
refuse to duplicate a mail in the same folder.


And, finally the question for the OP is still without an answer from him:


Why did he need a duplicated mail in the same folder ?

When he need to do a "reply", a "forward", or an "edit message as new" 
one mail is enough, you don't need another identical mail

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-17 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Ant wrote:

I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into another 
folder and
then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?


My guess is that it is by SM design.
My old SM 2.26.1 does the same as yours.

My MS Outlook does allow direct multiple copies to the same folder without any 
name changes.

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-17 Thread Ed Mullen

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-16 Thread Ray_Net

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Anyway ... Why did you need a duplicated mail in the same folder ?

When you need to do a "reply", a "forward", or an "edit message as new" 
one mail is enough, you don't need another identical mail

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-16 Thread Daniel

Ant wrote on 16/12/2018 7:53 PM:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Ant, if you had an e-mail called "ABCDE" and copied it to the same 
folder, shouldn't the copy just over-write the original??


I've got no idea of how you are achieve having two "same named"/"same 
content" e-mails in the same folder, even if it has been in a different 
folder!! Does something in the e-mail Header change so they are not seen 
as proper copies??


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Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

2018-12-16 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?

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