Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If you have nothing useful to contribute, Well, that's a slap in the face... I hope some useful person sees your plight. Sorry, I let my frustration get the better of me. Please delete the slap. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Changes in folder deletion?
Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Did you set your Trash folder's Properties to 'delete after' a certain time period? (It's still there until you compact the Trash folder; you just can't see it unless you edit the raw file - not for the inexperienced.) -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Did you set your Trash folder's Properties to 'delete after' a certain time period? Not especially. When I right-click and choose Properties, everything's grayed out because the box Use my account settings is checked. The only thing I see there is Empty trash on exit, which is enabled. (It's still there until you compact the Trash folder; you just can't see it unless you edit the raw file - not for the inexperienced.) So you're saying there /has/ been a change. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Did you set your Trash folder's Properties to 'delete after' a certain time period? Not especially. When I right-click and choose Properties, everything's grayed out because the box Use my account settings is checked. The only thing I see there is Empty trash on exit, which is enabled. Then do your account settings set any time period for flushing? (It's still there until you compact the Trash folder; you just can't see it unless you edit the raw file - not for the inexperienced.) So you're saying there /has/ been a change. No, I didn't say anything about a change. Folder properties, and the time limit, have been around for a long time. Check your account settings under Disk Space. Regarding 'edit raw file', you're probably aware that Mozilla mailboxes (folders) are simple text files. In a pinch, old content can be found via a text editor (when the client is not open). I wouldn't try that with whole folders, though! -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Did you set your Trash folder's Properties to 'delete after' a certain time period? Not especially. When I right-click and choose Properties, everything's grayed out because the box Use my account settings is checked. The only thing I see there is Empty trash on exit, which is enabled. Then do your account settings set any time period for flushing? Asked and answered. No. Anyway, if I delete a folder, it shouldn't be purged from Trash instantly even if I do use the setting you have in mind. It should be visible there until that time has elapsed. (It's still there until you compact the Trash folder; you just can't see it unless you edit the raw file - not for the inexperienced.) So you're saying there /has/ been a change. No, I didn't say anything about a change. Folder properties, and the time limit, have been around for a long time. Check your account settings under Disk Space. You said it by implication. In older versions of SeaMonkey, if I deleted an individual message, that meant moving it to Trash, and I could see it there and move it back, and the treatment of whole folders was exactly analogous: I could see the whole folder sitting there in the Trash and pull it back out. This is no longer true -- if I delete a folder, it doesn't show up in the Trash. It just vanishes. If you have nothing useful to contribute, I hope someone else will chime in. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If you have nothing useful to contribute, Well, that's a slap in the face... I hope some useful person sees your plight. -- -bts -This space for rent, but not for you ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Sounds like a corrupt profile. I just created 2 folders under Inbox, deleted them, and they both went to Trash. I do have the box in Preferences Mail and Newsgroups General Setting Confirm when moving folders to the Trash checked, so I get a warning. -- SeaMonkey - openSUSE 11.3 Linux - 1.8GHz CPU - 2GB RAM Get openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/114/en Firefox Support: http://support.mozilla.com Profile Manager: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Are you aware that shift+delete will delete your message of folder without moving/copying it to trash! Delete will flag the message/folder as deleted in the source folder/folder list. (i.e. they will not be visible), and copy the contents to trash. Shift+Delete will flag the message/folder but will NOT copy the contents to trash. So until you have compressed, or deleted the trash and compressed the folders, you can edit the raw data files to recover the messages, and folders. You can do it either by resetting the flags in X-Mozilla-Status: (Copy from a live message) Perhaps you are inadvertently doing a shift+delete Hope that Helps -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
WLS (CompTIA A+ Certified - Retired) wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Sounds like a corrupt profile. I just created 2 folders under Inbox, deleted them, and they both went to Trash. I do have the box in Preferences Mail and Newsgroups General Setting Confirm when moving folders to the Trash checked, so I get a warning. I performed the same test, but no folders appeared in Trash. They just vanished. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Are you aware that shift+delete will delete your message of folder without moving/copying it to trash! Delete will flag the message/folder as deleted in the source folder/folder list. (i.e. they will not be visible), and copy the contents to trash. Shift+Delete will flag the message/folder but will NOT copy the contents to trash. So until you have compressed, or deleted the trash and compressed the folders, you can edit the raw data files to recover the messages, and folders. You can do it either by resetting the flags in X-Mozilla-Status: (Copy from a live message) Perhaps you are inadvertently doing a shift+delete Nope, I'm not. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
