Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-18 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/17/2010 3:16 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/13/2010 5:39 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

I am under Windows XP SP3 and i finally have installed SM2.0.2 without
any problem till now :-) except the following.

This is to inform everybody that he should
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.

I had installed SM2 without removing first SM1:
- I encountred a mixed between SM1 and SM2 in the Start - All
Programs - Seamonkey
- Then to eliminate the mix - i used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- The mix dissappeared - so far so good - BUT also the link to start SM2
by using  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey

To remove this problem:
- I used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- I used add/remove program to Remove SM2.
- And finally i install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup
2.0.2.exe.
- Now the  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey is ok and suit SM2
only and completely.

So i repeat:
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.
To avoid the problem i encountered.


I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 under Windows XP back in October and now have
SeaMonkey 2.0.2.  I just now removed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 without any
problem.  I did not have to reinstall SeaMonkey 2.0.2.

I initially installed SeaMonkey 2.0 in a different folder than SeaMonkey
1.1.18.  My four profiles for SeaMonkey 2.0 were also under a different
folder than the profiles for SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  For the startup, I
created separate folders for the two versions of SeaMonkey, both under a
single Mozilla folder, which also has the startup for Thunderbird.

Obviously, if I wanted to install and use two different versions, I had
to avoid overlapping the two versions.


Nice to know that you don't get any problem ... but could you start
SeaMonkey by using this way: Start - All Programs - Seamonkey  ... ?


Yes.  Because I set my Start Menu Properties in Windows XP to Classic
Start menu and because I group SeaMonkey and Thunderbird together under
Mozilla, the sequence is [Start  Programs  Mozilla  SeaMonkey2
SeaMonkey].  Before I removed SeaMonkey 1.1.18, I also had [Start
Programs  Mozilla  SeaMonkey1  SeaMonkey].  This was part of how I
avoided overlapping the two versions.


Ok, now i understand.
I had installed SM1 all by default, then installed SM2 by default. 
Finally i removed SM1 and the problem was that the start-browser and the 
start-mail dissappeared from Start - All Programs - Seamonkey 
because SM1 and SM2 have different repositories, different program 
locations but have the *same* location for the start links under Start 
- All Programs - Seamonkey.

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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-17 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/13/2010 5:39 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 I am under Windows XP SP3 and i finally have installed SM2.0.2 without 
 any problem till now :-) except the following.
 
 This is to inform everybody that he should
 - First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
 - Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.
 
 I had installed SM2 without removing first SM1:
 - I encountred a mixed between SM1 and SM2 in the Start - All 
 Programs - Seamonkey
 - Then to eliminate the mix - i used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
 - The mix dissappeared - so far so good - BUT also the link to start SM2 
 by using  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey
 
 To remove this problem:
 - I used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
 - I used add/remove program to Remove SM2.
 - And finally i install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 
 2.0.2.exe.
 - Now the  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey is ok and suit SM2 
 only and completely.
 
 So i repeat:
 - First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
 - Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.
 To avoid the problem i encountered.

I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 under Windows XP back in October and now have
SeaMonkey 2.0.2.  I just now removed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 without any
problem.  I did not have to reinstall SeaMonkey 2.0.2.

I initially installed SeaMonkey 2.0 in a different folder than SeaMonkey
1.1.18.  My four profiles for SeaMonkey 2.0 were also under a different
folder than the profiles for SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  For the startup, I
created separate folders for the two versions of SeaMonkey, both under a
single Mozilla folder, which also has the startup for Thunderbird.

Obviously, if I wanted to install and use two different versions, I had
to avoid overlapping the two versions.

-- 
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http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-17 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/13/2010 5:39 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

I am under Windows XP SP3 and i finally have installed SM2.0.2 without
any problem till now :-) except the following.

This is to inform everybody that he should
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.

I had installed SM2 without removing first SM1:
- I encountred a mixed between SM1 and SM2 in the Start - All
Programs - Seamonkey
- Then to eliminate the mix - i used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- The mix dissappeared - so far so good - BUT also the link to start SM2
by using  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey

To remove this problem:
- I used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- I used add/remove program to Remove SM2.
- And finally i install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup
2.0.2.exe.
- Now the  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey is ok and suit SM2
only and completely.

So i repeat:
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.
To avoid the problem i encountered.


I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 under Windows XP back in October and now have
SeaMonkey 2.0.2.  I just now removed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 without any
problem.  I did not have to reinstall SeaMonkey 2.0.2.

I initially installed SeaMonkey 2.0 in a different folder than SeaMonkey
1.1.18.  My four profiles for SeaMonkey 2.0 were also under a different
folder than the profiles for SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  For the startup, I
created separate folders for the two versions of SeaMonkey, both under a
single Mozilla folder, which also has the startup for Thunderbird.

Obviously, if I wanted to install and use two different versions, I had
to avoid overlapping the two versions.

Nice to know that you don't get any problem ... but could you start 
SeaMonkey by using this way: Start - All Programs - Seamonkey  ... ?

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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-17 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/17/2010 3:16 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/13/2010 5:39 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 I am under Windows XP SP3 and i finally have installed SM2.0.2 without
 any problem till now :-) except the following.

 This is to inform everybody that he should
 - First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
 - Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.

 I had installed SM2 without removing first SM1:
 - I encountred a mixed between SM1 and SM2 in the Start - All
 Programs - Seamonkey
 - Then to eliminate the mix - i used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
 - The mix dissappeared - so far so good - BUT also the link to start SM2
 by using  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey

 To remove this problem:
 - I used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
 - I used add/remove program to Remove SM2.
 - And finally i install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup
 2.0.2.exe.
 - Now the  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey is ok and suit SM2
 only and completely.

 So i repeat:
 - First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
 - Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.
 To avoid the problem i encountered.

 I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 under Windows XP back in October and now have
 SeaMonkey 2.0.2.  I just now removed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 without any
 problem.  I did not have to reinstall SeaMonkey 2.0.2.

 I initially installed SeaMonkey 2.0 in a different folder than SeaMonkey
 1.1.18.  My four profiles for SeaMonkey 2.0 were also under a different
 folder than the profiles for SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  For the startup, I
 created separate folders for the two versions of SeaMonkey, both under a
 single Mozilla folder, which also has the startup for Thunderbird.

 Obviously, if I wanted to install and use two different versions, I had
 to avoid overlapping the two versions.

 Nice to know that you don't get any problem ... but could you start 
 SeaMonkey by using this way: Start - All Programs - Seamonkey  ... ?

Yes.  Because I set my Start Menu Properties in Windows XP to Classic
Start menu and because I group SeaMonkey and Thunderbird together under
Mozilla, the sequence is [Start  Programs  Mozilla  SeaMonkey2 
SeaMonkey].  Before I removed SeaMonkey 1.1.18, I also had [Start 
Programs  Mozilla  SeaMonkey1  SeaMonkey].  This was part of how I
avoided overlapping the two versions.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-15 Thread Ray_Net

cyberzen wrote:

Ray_Net a écrit :

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

Ray_Net wrote:

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.


All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18.
BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts
ppoint
to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess.


It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts.
But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them.
regards


That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts
... i
don't remember :-)


In the XP Start menu? I have Profile Manager, Browser, Safe-Mode and
Mail in that order.


You don't understand  i have also the same now.
The problem was that after installing SM2 - then uninstall SM1 some item
simply vanished. In that situation: what was those missing £%$*! damned
shortcuts ... i don't remember :-)

The best way of re-instate all SM2 item was to do :
de-install SM2 then re-install SM2.

in that case I think it was not useful to uninstall SM2 before
reinstalling it, and that's what I have done... no problem


héhé. I ws not so clever - thanks for the idea.
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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Freitag

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

Ray_Net wrote:

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.


All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18.
BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint
to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess.


It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts. 
But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them.

regards

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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-14 Thread Ray_Net

Martin Freitag wrote:

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

Ray_Net wrote:

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.


All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18.
BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint
to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess.


It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts.
But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them.
regards

That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i 
don't remember :-)

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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-14 Thread Leonidas Jones

Ray_Net wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

Ray_Net wrote:

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.


All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18.
BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint
to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess.


It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts.
But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them.
regards


That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i
don't remember :-)


In the XP Start menu?  I have Profile Manager, Browser, Safe-Mode and 
Mail in that order.


Lee
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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-14 Thread Ray_Net

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

Ray_Net wrote:

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.


All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18.
BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint
to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess.


It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts.
But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them.
regards


That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i
don't remember :-)


In the XP Start menu? I have Profile Manager, Browser, Safe-Mode and
Mail in that order.


You don't understand  i have also the same now.
The problem was that after installing SM2 - then uninstall SM1 some item 
simply vanished. In that situation: what was those missing £%$*! damned 
shortcuts ... i don't remember :-)


The best way of re-instate all SM2 item was to do :
de-install SM2 then re-install SM2.
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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-14 Thread cyberzen

Ray_Net a écrit :

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

Ray_Net wrote:

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.


All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18.
BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint
to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess.


It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts.
But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them.
regards


That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i
don't remember :-)


In the XP Start menu? I have Profile Manager, Browser, Safe-Mode and
Mail in that order.


You don't understand  i have also the same now.
The problem was that after installing SM2 - then uninstall SM1 some item
simply vanished. In that situation: what was those missing £%$*! damned
shortcuts ... i don't remember :-)

The best way of re-instate all SM2 item was to do :
de-install SM2 then re-install SM2.
in that case I think it was not useful to uninstall SM2 before 
reinstalling it, and that's what I have done... no problem

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Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-13 Thread Ray_Net
I am under Windows XP SP3 and i finally have installed SM2.0.2 without 
any problem till now :-) except the following.


This is to inform everybody that he should
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.

I had installed SM2 without removing first SM1:
- I encountred a mixed between SM1 and SM2 in the Start - All 
Programs - Seamonkey

- Then to eliminate the mix - i used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- The mix dissappeared - so far so good - BUT also the link to start SM2 
by using  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey


To remove this problem:
- I used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- I used add/remove program to Remove SM2.
- And finally i install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 
2.0.2.exe.
- Now the  Start - All Programs - Seamonkey is ok and suit SM2 
only and completely.


So i repeat:
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.
To avoid the problem i encountered.
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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-13 Thread Ray_Net

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under Windows XP SP3 and i finally have installed SM2.0.2 without
any problem till now :-) except the following.

This is to inform everybody that he should
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.

I had installed SM2 without removing first SM1:
- I encountred a mixed between SM1 and SM2 in the Start - All
Programs - Seamonkey
- Then to eliminate the mix - i used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- The mix dissappeared - so far so good - BUT also the link to start SM2
by using Start - All Programs - Seamonkey

To remove this problem:
- I used add/remove program to Remove SM2.
- And finally i install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup
2.0.2.exe.
- Now the Start - All Programs - Seamonkey is ok and suit SM2 only
and completely.

So i repeat:
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.
To avoid the problem i encountered.


You could also have used the Properties dialog for the Start menu
shortcuts, to repoint them to the new location for SeaMonkey 2.0. Its a
hassle, I admit, but it would have saved you the ininstall/reinstall of
SM2.


(i have modified my previous text due to a mistake)
The problem was first because having both SM intalled, the start menu 
dialog points to a mixed of SM1 and SM2; then after removing SM1 the 
problem is not to repoint somewhere, but to réinstate loosed links.
This last action removing/installing SM2 was very fast(no migration 
step) and give me a surely correct situation.

This is to explain why i have done this to cure the problem.

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
 Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.
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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-13 Thread Leonidas Jones

Ray_Net wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under Windows XP SP3 and i finally have installed SM2.0.2 without
any problem till now :-) except the following.

This is to inform everybody that he should
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.

I had installed SM2 without removing first SM1:
- I encountred a mixed between SM1 and SM2 in the Start - All
Programs - Seamonkey
- Then to eliminate the mix - i used add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- The mix dissappeared - so far so good - BUT also the link to start SM2
by using Start - All Programs - Seamonkey

To remove this problem:
- I used add/remove program to Remove SM2.
- And finally i install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup
2.0.2.exe.
- Now the Start - All Programs - Seamonkey is ok and suit SM2 only
and completely.

So i repeat:
- First use add/remove program to Remove SM1.
- Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe.
To avoid the problem i encountered.


You could also have used the Properties dialog for the Start menu
shortcuts, to repoint them to the new location for SeaMonkey 2.0. Its a
hassle, I admit, but it would have saved you the ininstall/reinstall of
SM2.


(i have modified my previous text due to a mistake)
The problem was first because having both SM intalled, the start menu
dialog points to a mixed of SM1 and SM2; then after removing SM1 the
problem is not to repoint somewhere, but to réinstate loosed links.
This last action removing/installing SM2 was very fast(no migration
step) and give me a surely correct situation.
This is to explain why i have done this to cure the problem.

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.


All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18. 
BOth currently exist on my XP machine.  The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint 
to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess.


Lee
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