Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
Paul B. Gallagher a écrit : cyberzen wrote: so when I edit a sent message as new I don't find malformed headers as you seem to have have typed Ctrl U to view the whole source ? for example I have seen something curious : To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net it's some of my friends who sent a joke to a bunch of BCC other ones.. I do not know the real reason of it This may be it. I've found that if I send a message with all the recipients bcc'ed, it goes out fine, but the copy in my Sent folder lists undisclosed-recipients:; in the To field (SeaMonkey apparently inserts this automatically). If I then edit that sent message as new, modifying the body without modifying the recipient list, SeaMonkey refuses to resend it, saying undisclosed-recipients:; is an invalid address. I have to delete that line before sending. If you're forwarding such a message, this shouldn't happen (the recipient fields will be blank until you fill them), but if you reply to it, or reply to all, the first listed recipient will be the invalid undisclosed-recipients:; and you'll have to delete it before sending. your explanations are fine, as I wanted to know more about the case I have, I resent the message with the To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net this was done silently, but I don't know to who.. I think my provider is remembering the bcc list... ? I hope so in any way I don't think it is a real bug of SM because it remains of the responsibility of the sender to set up the list of recipients, all is under his view. -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
cyberzen a écrit : I resent the message with the To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net this was done silently, but I don't know to who.. I think my provider is remembering the bcc list... ? I hope so in fact not, I have got error messages it's all normal.. -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
cyberzen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher a écrit : cyberzen wrote: so when I edit a sent message as new I don't find malformed headers as you seem to have have typed Ctrl U to view the whole source ? for example I have seen something curious : To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net it's some of my friends who sent a joke to a bunch of BCC other ones.. I do not know the real reason of it This may be it. I've found that if I send a message with all the recipients bcc'ed, it goes out fine, but the copy in my Sent folder lists undisclosed-recipients:; in the To field (SeaMonkey apparently inserts this automatically). If I then edit that sent message as new, modifying the body without modifying the recipient list, SeaMonkey refuses to resend it, saying undisclosed-recipients:; is an invalid address. I have to delete that line before sending. If you're forwarding such a message, this shouldn't happen (the recipient fields will be blank until you fill them), but if you reply to it, or reply to all, the first listed recipient will be the invalid undisclosed-recipients:; and you'll have to delete it before sending. your explanations are fine, as I wanted to know more about the case I have, I resent the message with the To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net this was done silently, but I don't know to who.. I think my provider is remembering the bcc list... ? I hope so in any way I don't think it is a real bug of SM because it remains of the responsibility of the sender to set up the list of recipients, all is under his view. IT's A REAL BUG of SM, because he add the To: zone when it was not used at the first sending. In fact, the sent folder must contain an exact copy of the mail sent instead of adding To: undisclosed-recipients:; If the To: zone is let empty/missing the problem of the sending of Edit message as new will not occur. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
Ray_Net a écrit : cyberzen wrote: for example I have seen something curious : To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net it's some of my friends who sent a joke to a bunch of BCC other ones.. I do not know the real reason of it IT's A REAL BUG of SM, because he add the To: zone when it was not used at the first sending. In fact, the sent folder must contain an exact copy of the mail sent instead of adding To: undisclosed-recipients:; If the To: zone is let empty/missing the problem of the sending of Edit message as new will not occur. may I remark that when I received a message as being BCC, I get warned of it, when I view To: undisclosed-recipients:; and I think important to get those sort of information. in the other case, when sending a message having only BCCs do you mean that SM should copy the whole in sent folder, expanding all BCCs ? is not there a privacy issue ? -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
cyberzen wrote: Ray_Net a écrit : cyberzen wrote: for example I have seen something curious : To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net it's some of my friends who sent a joke to a bunch of BCC other ones.. I do not know the real reason of it IT's A REAL BUG of SM, because he add the To: zone when it was not used at the first sending. In fact, the sent folder must contain an exact copy of the mail sent instead of adding To: undisclosed-recipients:; If the To: zone is let empty/missing the problem of the sending of Edit message as new will not occur. may I remark that when I received a message as being BCC, I get warned of it, when I view To: undisclosed-recipients:; and I think important to get those sort of information. in the other case, when sending a message having only BCCs do you mean that SM should copy the whole in sent folder, expanding all BCCs ? I don't speak about the Bcc: i just explained that SM copy the messsage in the SENT folder ... if SM don't add To: undisclosed-recipients:; the problem will not occur. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
cyberzen wrote: in the other case, when sending a message having only BCCs do you mean that SM should copy the whole in sent folder, expanding all BCCs ? is not there a privacy issue ? No, I don't think the user needs to be protected from knowing to whom he sent mail. It's a separate issue if you're concerned that someone else could view the list by gaining unauthorized access to your computer. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
Ray_Net a écrit : cyberzen wrote: Ray_Net a écrit : What do you think about a bug i fill in just now ? Any hope for a correction ? . soon :-) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668504 Perhaps you can vote for it ... I think this is due to some automatic spam detection at your email provider's side (message with only BCC are supposed to be spam) This is a false assumption, because i test it without being connected(ADSL box power off). This is Seamokey who refuse to send the mail. may be yes, but... having no problem as you have I checked my settings.. 1 I BCC to myself 2 I do not copy the messages in the sent folder 3 I have set up a filter to move occurring messges BCC to me in the sent folder so when I edit a sent message as new I don't find malformed headers as you seem to have have typed Ctrl U to view the whole source ? for example I have seen something curious : To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net it's some of my friends who sent a joke to a bunch of BCC other ones.. I do not know the real reason of it -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
cyberzen wrote: so when I edit a sent message as new I don't find malformed headers as you seem to have have typed Ctrl U to view the whole source ? for example I have seen something curious : To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net it's some of my friends who sent a joke to a bunch of BCC other ones.. I do not know the real reason of it This may be it. I've found that if I send a message with all the recipients bcc'ed, it goes out fine, but the copy in my Sent folder lists undisclosed-recipients:; in the To field (SeaMonkey apparently inserts this automatically). If I then edit that sent message as new, modifying the body without modifying the recipient list, SeaMonkey refuses to resend it, saying undisclosed-recipients:; is an invalid address. I have to delete that line before sending. If you're forwarding such a message, this shouldn't happen (the recipient fields will be blank until you fill them), but if you reply to it, or reply to all, the first listed recipient will be the invalid undisclosed-recipients:; and you'll have to delete it before sending. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: cyberzen wrote: so when I edit a sent message as new I don't find malformed headers as you seem to have have typed Ctrl U to view the whole source ? for example I have seen something curious : To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@spooler8-g27.priv.proxad.net it's some of my friends who sent a joke to a bunch of BCC other ones.. I do not know the real reason of it This may be it. I've found that if I send a message with all the recipients bcc'ed, it goes out fine, but the copy in my Sent folder lists undisclosed-recipients:; in the To field (SeaMonkey apparently inserts this automatically). If I then edit that sent message as new, modifying the body without modifying the recipient list, SeaMonkey refuses to resend it, saying undisclosed-recipients:; is an invalid address. I have to delete that line before sending. If you're forwarding such a message, this shouldn't happen (the recipient fields will be blank until you fill them), but if you reply to it, or reply to all, the first listed recipient will be the invalid undisclosed-recipients:; and you'll have to delete it before sending. You have better than me explained the SM problem. I hope to have a maximum votes for this bug :-) Feel free to vote for it ! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668504 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
What do you think about a bug i fill in just now ? Any hope for a correction ? . soon :-) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668504 Perhaps you can vote for it ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
Ray_Net a écrit : What do you think about a bug i fill in just now ? Any hope for a correction ? . soon :-) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668504 Perhaps you can vote for it ... I think this is due to some automatic spam detection at your email provider's side (message with only BCC are supposed to be spam) -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit message as new - The sent is rejected
cyberzen wrote: Ray_Net a écrit : What do you think about a bug i fill in just now ? Any hope for a correction ? . soon :-) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668504 Perhaps you can vote for it ... I think this is due to some automatic spam detection at your email provider's side (message with only BCC are supposed to be spam) This is a false assumption, because i test it without being connected(ADSL box power off). This is Seamokey who refuse to send the mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
