Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-21 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:07:03 +0100, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:37:57 -0500, Lou wrote:
 I installed Autofill by modifying the install.rdf. The Add-on manager 
 shows it as installed and I can access the preferences settings, but I 
 don't see the icon on the toolbar or any context menu that may allow me 
 to autofill everything.
 
 ***Purely based on code inspection***:
 (...)
 
 Sounds like it deserves a place in your To Do list. ;-)

:P

 Regarding the missing icons in the preferences, just using text buttons
 (like the Modern theme does with the Add-ons Manager) might be the way
 to go.

Err, What is the context of this comment?

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-21 Thread Jens Hatlak
Philip Chee wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:07:03 +0100, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Regarding the missing icons in the preferences, just using text buttons
 (like the Modern theme does with the Add-ons Manager) might be the way
 to go.
 
 Err, What is the context of this comment?

I was referring to the Autofill Forms settings dialog. I was just
writing from memory. Checking again I see that there are labels below
the (missing) icons so it's better than nothing but would look better if
the space above wouldn't be empty. Similar to Modern's Add-on Manager.

I hope it's clearer now what I mean. ;-)

Greetings,

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 19 janvier 2010, Philip Chee a écrit :


You really should point to the en-US version at:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4775


Yep, sorry for the inconvenience. I'm automatically redirected to the fr/ 
page when I go to addons.mozilla.org. Users who prefer en/ should be 
automatically pointed there to. A glitch in the website or in SM?



To Philip Jones, I repeat:


On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about installing
[Autofill Forms], a Firefox add-on that does the trick.


The trick being to... autofill forms (all fields at once)!

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Lou

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 14 janvier 2010, Phillip Jones a écrit :
snip
On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about
installing Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.

Cheers.


I installed Autofill by modifying the install.rdf. The Add-on manager 
shows it as installed and I can access the preferences settings, but I 
don't see the icon on the toolbar or any context menu that may allow me 
to autofill everything.

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:23:20 +0100, Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 19 janvier 2010, Philip Chee a écrit :
 
 You really should point to the en-US version at:

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4775
 
 Yep, sorry for the inconvenience. I'm automatically redirected to the fr/ 
 page when I go to addons.mozilla.org. Users who prefer en/ should be 
 automatically pointed there to. A glitch in the website or in SM?

No, generally the AMO website looks at your HTTP headers for the
language accept string and then switches to whatever your browser claims
to be the preferred language, /unless/ you explicitly specify a specific
language as you did.

I generally leave out the language and the application e.g.
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/4775

AMO will then try to detect your accept languages and the browser
application you are using. If the extension is SeaMonkey compatible, AMO
will automatically switch you to the page with SeaMonkey specific
information and to your preferred language e.g.

https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/seamonkey/addon/4775

(assuming you are a dutch SeaMonkey user of course).

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:37:57 -0500, Lou wrote:
 Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 14 janvier 2010, Phillip Jones a écrit :
snip
 On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about
 installing Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.

 Cheers.
 
 I installed Autofill by modifying the install.rdf. The Add-on manager 
 shows it as installed and I can access the preferences settings, but I 
 don't see the icon on the toolbar or any context menu that may allow me 
 to autofill everything.

***Purely based on code inspection***:

In the chrome.manifest file, replace the following lines:

overlay chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOverlay.xul

style   chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=3.0 os=Darwin

style   chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=3.0 os=Darwin

with

overlay chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul

chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOverlay.xul

style   chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul

chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=2.0 os=Darwin

style   chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=2.0 os=Darwin

-

Replace:

style   chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions2.css   appversion3.0

style   chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions1.5.css appversion2.0

with:

# commented out style   
chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions2.css   appversion3.0

# commented out style   
chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions1.5.css appversion2.0

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Lou

Philip Chee wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:37:57 -0500, Lou wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 14 janvier 2010, Phillip Jones a écrit :
snip
On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about
installing Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.

Cheers.


I installed Autofill by modifying the install.rdf. The Add-on manager
shows it as installed and I can access the preferences settings, but I
don't see the icon on the toolbar or any context menu that may allow me
to autofill everything.


***Purely based on code inspection***:

In the chrome.manifest file, replace the following lines:

overlay chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOverlay.xul

style   chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=3.0 os=Darwin

style   chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=3.0 os=Darwin

with

overlay chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul

chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOverlay.xul

style   chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul

chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=2.0 os=Darwin

style   chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=2.0 os=Darwin

-

Replace:

style   chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions2.css   appversion3.0

style   chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions1.5.css appversion2.0

with:

# commented out style   
chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions2.css   appversion3.0

# commented out style   
chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions1.5.css appversion2.0

Phil



Thank you so much!!! It now works like a charm.  This is exactly what I 
was looking for.


Lou
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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 18 janvier 2010, Lucas Levrel a écrit :

On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about installing 
Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.


The exact name is Autofill Forms -- sorry for the mistake. Here's the 
link:

https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/4775

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, Lucas Levrel a écrit :


On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about installing
Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.


The exact name is Autofill Forms -- sorry for the mistake. Here's the
link:
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/4775


Wanted to add a comment no version SM 2.0 but I can't speak French

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread S. Beaulieu

Phillip Jones a écrit :



Wanted to add a comment no version SM 2.0 but I can't speak French



Why don't you post your comment in English, then? From what I can see, 
the page is all in English, same for the project page. So what is the 
problem?


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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Phillip Jones a écrit :



Wanted to add a comment no version SM 2.0 but I can't speak French



Why don't you post your comment in English, then? From what I can see,
the page is all in English, same for the project page. So what is the
problem?

S.
Because the page referred to, is in French you have to sign up and the 
widows I assume to insert email First and last name but I don't know 
what boxes are for what.


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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread S. Beaulieu

Phillip Jones a écrit :

Because the page referred to, is in French you have to sign up and the
widows I assume to insert email First and last name but I don't know
what boxes are for what.



Ahhh! Gotcha! I missed that bit at the bottom. Let me help you.

Connecter/Connectez-vous = connect (brings you to next page; if you 
already have an account to comment on the English version of that site, 
it will work)


Adresse électronique = email

Mot de passe = password

Se connecter = connect

Je n'ai pas de compte = I don't have an account

J'ai oublié mon mot de passe = I forgot my password

Confirmez le mot de passe = confirm password

Prénom = first name

Nom = last name

Pseudo = user name

Masquer le courriel = hide email address

Site Web (URL) = website

Êtes-vous un être humain? = Are you human?

Veuillez taper les deux mots ci-dessous, séparés par un espace = Type 
the two words below, separating them with a single space


Si c'est illisible, vous pouvez *essayer d'autres mots* ou bien 
*utiliser le test auditif* à la place = If this can't be read, you can 
*try with other words* our *use the sound test*


Saisissez votre réponse ici = type your answer here

S'enregistrer = registered


There. I think I got you pretty much covered. If I missed anything, just 
let me know.


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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen

Phillip Jones wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, Lucas Levrel a écrit :

On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about 
installing

Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.


The exact name is Autofill Forms -- sorry for the mistake. Here's the
link:
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/4775


Wanted to add a comment no version SM 2.0 but I can't speak French


What happens when you click translate this page?

The translate is good enough to let me follow blogs in Chinese. ;-)

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Philip Chee
On 18/01/2010 23:43, Phillip Jones wrote:
 Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 18 janvier 2010, Lucas Levrel a écrit :

 On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about installing
 Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.

 The exact name is Autofill Forms -- sorry for the mistake. Here's the
 link:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/4775

You really should point to the en-US version at:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4775

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:53:07 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 18 janvier 2010, Lucas Levrel a écrit :

 On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about 
 installing
 Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.

 The exact name is Autofill Forms -- sorry for the mistake. Here's the
 link:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/4775

 Wanted to add a comment no version SM 2.0 but I can't speak French
 
 What happens when you click translate this page?

What happens if you change /fr/ to /en-US/ e.g.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4775
or follow the links to
http://autofillforms.mozdev.org/

Phil

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Philip Chee wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:53:07 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, Lucas Levrel a écrit :


On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about
installing
Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.


The exact name is Autofill Forms -- sorry for the mistake. Here's the
link:
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/4775


Wanted to add a comment no version SM 2.0 but I can't speak French


What happens when you click translate this page?


What happens if you change /fr/ to /en-US/ e.g.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4775
or follow the links to
http://autofillforms.mozdev.org/

Phil

With some help from a French expert I was able to sign in so I could add 
my comment which was a suggestion making a version for SM2 after I 
created the account I then was able to switch to English version. Its 
Funny you have to go to French site muddle you way through then, choose 
English.


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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-15 Thread Bill Davidsen

Phillip Jones wrote:

I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth we 
users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the other. 
Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user wants or 
needs.


It's not that the developers don't care, it's that Seamonkey is just a mashup of 
Firefox, Thunderbird, and Chazilla. It's not independent code, so unless Firefox 
gets a decent forms manager I can't see one in Seamonkey.


The goal seems to be to provide the suite option with a minimum of resources 
rather than to fork an independent code base which could have enhanced features, 
like the webkit code chrome and safari reportedly are using. That's done quite 
well. From Robert's constant comments about resources, I suspect that what we 
have is a struggle.


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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-15 Thread Rufus

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth 
we users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the 
other. Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user 
wants or needs.


It's not that the developers don't care, it's that Seamonkey is just a 
mashup of Firefox, Thunderbird, and Chazilla. It's not independent code, 
so unless Firefox gets a decent forms manager I can't see one in Seamonkey.




It was at one time, I thought...great idea - just needs catching up and 
polishing off.  That's only understandable.


But from my observations, I'm inclined to agree with Phillip...any one 
developer seems to be able to roadblock a user request - even when more 
than one of the other developers might be in support of the users...


The goal seems to be to provide the suite option with a minimum of 
resources rather than to fork an independent code base which could have 
enhanced features, like the webkit code chrome and safari reportedly are 
using. That's done quite well. From Robert's constant comments about 
resources, I suspect that what we have is a struggle.




I don't see why that couldn't continue in the form of bundling what 
might otherwise be add-ons in/with the basic package issued by the SM 
developers - the architecture of the suite seems modular from the 
outset, and if people can write add-ons, the team should be able to 
continue in a core kit-code plus adds architecture...I would think. 
It's just a matter of what gets delivered to SM users as baseline.


BTW - I've been surveying other packages for the first time in 
decades...the only other suite I've found (for Mac, anyway) is 
Opera...which I'm liking enough to mak me trash everything else I've 
been looking at for one single feature - it opens it's Mail/News 
function in a tab in the same window as it's browser.


Opera is tab HEAVEN - especially for working on a laptop, and 
particularly with Mac OS X - I can open Opera full screen without 
worrying about obscuring/blocking/hiding a window.  In with OS X I can 
also assign Opera to its own Space and...whoa...I get to use my full 
screen unencumbered.


If I could get everything I have/had functionally and interface-wise in 
Seamonkey 1.1.18 and that one feature added, I'd consider that package 
to be very near perfection.  Only other thing I'd want would be 
insurance that the contents of the Forms Manager were encrypted...then I 
really would call it perfect!


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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-14 Thread Tom Pamin

MikeyG wrote:
Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers 
Add-Ons that are out there?
I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away 
with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay 
with SM any longer.
Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form 
Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some 
of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time  Usage Criteria' 
has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999 
into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then, 
unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any 
data here in the last week or so.
I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would 
not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my 
ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom 
right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would 
download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was 
also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird.
I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I 
am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will 
it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form, 
on any site?
Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well, 
functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within 
the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the 
SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG


I agree totally - bring back Form Manager
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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones

Tom Pamin wrote:

MikeyG wrote:

Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers
Add-Ons that are out there?
I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away
with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay
with SM any longer.
Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form
Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some
of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time  Usage Criteria'
has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999
into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then,
unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any
data here in the last week or so.
I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would
not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my
ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom
right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would
download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was
also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird.
I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I
am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will
it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form,
on any site?
Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well,
functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within
the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the
SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG


I agree totally - bring back Form Manager


The best Forms Manager Add on is: Forms History Manager Its not nearly 
as full featured (developers of SM wouldn't know, they never looked at 
the one in 1.1.8) But it will do.


I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth we 
users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the other. 
Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user wants or 
needs.


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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-14 Thread MikeyG

On 1/14/2010 8:16 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

MikeyG wrote:

Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers
Add-Ons that are out there?
I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away
with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay
with SM any longer.
Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form
Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some
of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time Usage Criteria'
has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999
into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then,
unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any
data here in the last week or so.
I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would
not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my
ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom
right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would
download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was
also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird.
I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I
am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will
it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form,
on any site?
Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well,
functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within
the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the
SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG


I agree totally - bring back Form Manager


The best Forms Manager Add on is: Forms History Manager Its not nearly
as full featured (developers of SM wouldn't know, they never looked at
the one in 1.1.8) But it will do.

I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth we
users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the other.
Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user wants or
needs.


Yes,it's handy to have access to the data.
I'm also, interested in user's opinions on form filling addons?
I noticed there were a bunch of 'Form' addons.
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Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-13 Thread MikeyG
Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers 
Add-Ons that are out there?
I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away 
with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay 
with SM any longer.
Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form 
Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some 
of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time  Usage Criteria' 
has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999 
into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then, 
unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any 
data here in the last week or so.
I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would 
not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my 
ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom 
right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would 
download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was 
also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird.
I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I 
am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will 
it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form, 
on any site?
Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well, 
functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within 
the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the 
SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG

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