Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Yamo']

Hi,
Ray_Net a tapoté le 22/04/2020 22:02:
> Ray_Net wrote on 21-04-20 08:39:
>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:
>>> Yamo' wrote:
 Hi,

 Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:
> I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
> But I see that:
> - FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?

 I don't use it.
>>>
>>> Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They 
>>> still have a few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement 
>>> together with DOMi.
>>>
> - AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?

 I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :
 

[ cutting the citations]

> - What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
> anymore ?
>>>
>>> I don't think this is needed anymore.
>>>
>>> FRG
>> 
>> Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
>> until 2.57
>> Because: (the minimum that I want)
>> The french dictionary is a web extension

NO

I use the version 6.3 on 2.53.1 :




>> The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

NO


I use uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 on Seamonkey 2.53.1 :






[ cutting the citations]



>> So the questions are:
>> - Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?

2.57 is not working. You should use 2.53.1 or 2.49.5.


>> - What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?

I think that nobody can predict that.


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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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Ray_Net a écrit :

Ray_Net wrote on 21-04-20 08:39:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?


I don't use it.


Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They 
still have a few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement 
together with DOMi.



- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?


I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :



2.91 is available but not recommended. I had nothing but problems 
(temporary hangs and memory bloat) after 2.82 even with 2.49.x so 
switched to uBlock which is still somehwat maintained.



- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
anymore ?


I don't think this is needed anymore.

FRG


Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
until 2.57

Because: (the minimum that I want)
The french dictionary is a web extension
The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

AND in the 2.53.1 release notes I read:

Dictionaries in WebExtension formats do *not* work, even though they 
appear to install correctly.


SeaMonkey does not currently support the WebExtensions add-on api. 
Some popular add-ons like NoScript and uBlock Origin are no longer 
shown because of this on the SeaMonkey add-ons website. You can 
usually get them from the manufacturers site. WebExtensions support is 
a planned feature for 2.57.



So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?

I have not undersatnd all the answers  It seems very complicated ...
I think that I should abandon SM 2.53.1: i use French dictionary without 
any problem.

It was present on my 2.29.5 profile ans is still here and active.

Ops, wait: i check in about:addons and seems no dictionary here 
except en-US.
Strange, because i still have spell check active. Maybe because i use 
the French official build of Seamonkey?


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.1/win64/fr/seamonkey-2.53.1.fr.win64.installer.exe

I use uBlock Origin (1.46.4.20) also without any problem (was also 
present in my 2.49.5)

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote on 21-04-20 08:39:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?


I don't use it.


Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They 
still have a few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement 
together with DOMi.



- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?


I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :



2.91 is available but not recommended. I had nothing but problems 
(temporary hangs and memory bloat) after 2.82 even with 2.49.x so 
switched to uBlock which is still somehwat maintained.



- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
anymore ?


I don't think this is needed anymore.

FRG


Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
until 2.57

Because: (the minimum that I want)
The french dictionary is a web extension
The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

AND in the 2.53.1 release notes I read:

Dictionaries in WebExtension formats do *not* work, even though they 
appear to install correctly.


SeaMonkey does not currently support the WebExtensions add-on api. 
Some popular add-ons like NoScript and uBlock Origin are no longer 
shown because of this on the SeaMonkey add-ons website. You can 
usually get them from the manufacturers site. WebExtensions support is 
a planned feature for 2.57.



So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?

I have not undersatnd all the answers  It seems very complicated ...
I think that I should abandon SM 
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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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On 4/21/2020 3:00 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:





2.53 is not in good shape. It works supergreat for me but at least the 
mailnews part still needs a big overhaul. Practically all changes we do 
for 2.53 go into 2.57 and up in parallel so future versions benefit. And 
every time I look closer at 2.57 I find something mozilla broke. 


Thank you for the clear explanation.
Honestly I moved mail to Thunderbird maybe 3-4 years ago. I kept having 
corrupted inbox issues if the box got too large and lack of 
Thunderbird's advanced search pushed me over. I preferred the feel of SM 
but had to do it and mail/news was just to feature laging.


I keep trying Firefox but the lost features (esp how it handles cookie 
exemptions, lack of side bar, harder to use UI, and other issues) there 
are greater than any benefit right now so I'll keep my trusty Seamonkey 
now.  Although some of FireFoxes new built in privacy features for FB 
and other things are really nice, that may be the straw that breaks the 
camels back for me.


 My chrome loving wife has been using my Seamonkey the last few days 
and says she way prefers the features of SM, but prefers the speed and 
compatibility of Chrome.






I always ended up added custom filters to ABP. I seldom need to tweak 
uBlock and memory usage did go down alot.




Good to know. Hopefully I find the same.


FRG


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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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Hawker wrote:

thanx. That is great advise.
I was wondering, rather than a different profile, if I could just have 
both installed and disable in the add on manager the one i am not using. 
this way I can disable ABP, try uBlock and if I don't like it or it 
needs more work to make me happy just revert back to disable uBlock and 
ABP. This way I get to try it in my real profile, which is probably more 
real world anyway.


Yes, that's doable.  I considered mentioning the previously, but was 
trying to keep things brief.


As FRG has noted, make sure that you don't try to have both active 
simultaneously, as they're likely to conflict.


Now that I think of it, when I switched to uBlock, I did exactly that, 
of keeping ABP inactive, before I eventually discarded it.


Smith

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[NFN Smith]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


I always ended up added custom filters to ABP. I seldom need to tweak 
uBlock and memory usage did go down alot.



That's been my experience, as well.  I did a lot more tweaking of ABP 
than I've ever done with uBlock.


Smith

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[EE]

Hawker wrote:
Clinging to ABP for me is because it took me several days to get it 
working the way I wanted years ago. I had to find various lists, see 
which ones worked better than others. Deal with broken websites (which 
often required different lists). lots of research and configurations 
work I don't particularly like to do and would rather use my time for 
other things.  I know I need to move on but don't want to invest the 
time right now to do the same with uBlock


But uBlock Origin can also use Adblock filter lists.  If you already 
know which ones work for you, you can add those to uBlock Origin.  You 
can add your same personal blocklist to it as well.


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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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Ray_Net wrote:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?
- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?
- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed 
anymore ?


But uBlock Origin is available from here:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Hawker wrote:

On 4/21/2020 4:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,


So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
No. NSS is no longer backwoard compatible. We need to soon put a hard block 
in to go thru 2.53.1 to .3 first.



- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?


At least a year or two away with the current resources.

We either keep up with 2.53 or do 2.57 full time. The later is not an option.


I'm not sure I understand this. Given the lack of resources wouldn't it make 
the most sense to get 2.53.x to some point "good enough" as quickly as you 
can, maybe once 2.53.2 drops then let it go and move on to 2.57? I realize 
that could leave 2.53 in bad shape, but we had that with 2.49 and it would be 
really nice to get SM to a more current engine with less website compatibility 
issues. The more y'all delay working on newer versions the more behind SM gets 
and the more folks move to a new tool.




2.53 is not in good shape. It works supergreat for me but at least the 
mailnews part still needs a big overhaul. Practically all changes we do for 
2.53 go into 2.57 and up in parallel so future versions benefit. And every 
time I look closer at 2.57 I find something mozilla broke. Technically 
SeaMonkey is now at 2.74 and still compiles fine but I am not sure I want to 
ever tackle fixing it up to this level. Much removed and minor benefit from a 
usablility perspective. If it were not for js and css compatibility I say to 
the hell with it. Well when we are at 2.57 we need to decide. Given the 
current Firefox market share or lack of it Gecko might even come to an end in 
the next years. Just my personal opinion btw.




Not sure why you cling to ABP and 2.49.1 (this one is even more obsolete).


Clinging to ABP for me is because it took me several days to get it working 
the way I wanted years ago. I had to find various lists, see which ones worked 
better than others. Deal with broken websites (which often required different 
lists). lots of research and configurations work I don't particularly like to 
do and would rather use my time for other things.  I know I need to move on 
but don't want to invest the time right now to do the same with uBlock




I always ended up added custom filters to ABP. I seldom need to tweak uBlock 
and memory usage did go down alot.


FRG
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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Hawker wrote:

On 4/21/2020 10:48 AM, NFN Smith wrote:

Hawker wrote:




Not sure why you cling to ABP and 2.49.1 (this one is even more obsolete).


Clinging to ABP for me is because it took me several days to get it working 
the way I wanted years ago. I had to find various lists, see which ones 
worked better than others. Deal with broken websites (which often required 
different lists). lots of research and configurations work I don't 
particularly like to do and would rather use my time for other things.  I 
know I need to move on but don't want to invest the time right now to do 
the same with uBlock



Something you might want to try

When I was running AdBlock Plus, I had also done quite a bit of tuning, but 
I when I moved to uBlock Origin, I didn't need to do an unreasonable amount 
of work.  uBlock can pretty much subscribe to the same lists that ABP does.  
Yes, it does take a little bit of time getting to uBlock's different UI, and 
it is a little more effort to dig into individual blocking rules.  However, 
with uBlock, I find that I spend less time tinkering with the rules than I 
did with ABP, and ultimately, that's time I can spend doing what I want to do.


What you might want to do is to create a new profile and install uBlock in 
that -- add all the subscriptions you want (and for that matter, any other 
extensions you consider to be essential), and see what things look like.  
You might find that you get enough blocking immediately, without having to 
spend much more time, at least not initially. It's likely that a lot of the 
fine-tuning that you want is probably better done as tweaks that are done in 
the context of of the moment.


If initial setups of uBlock do enough for you in the second profile, then 
that will tell you if you can replace ABP in your primary profile without an 
unreasonable amount of work.


Smith



thanx. That is great advise.
I was wondering, rather than a different profile, if I could just have both 
installed and disable in the add on manager the one i am not using. this way I 
can disable ABP, try uBlock and if I don't like it or it needs more work to 
make me happy just revert back to disable uBlock and ABP. This way I get to 
try it in my real profile, which is probably more real world anyway.




Yes that is possible. I would not advise keeping them both enabled but even 
this should work. Don't ask about performance and memory use in this case 
(both enabled) :) I liked the old ABP ui more but the new one is not much 
different from uBlock thanks to the wonders of web extensions where every 
add-on needs to do its own gui.


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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Hawker]

On 4/21/2020 10:48 AM, NFN Smith wrote:

Hawker wrote:




Not sure why you cling to ABP and 2.49.1 (this one is even more 
obsolete).


Clinging to ABP for me is because it took me several days to get it 
working the way I wanted years ago. I had to find various lists, see 
which ones worked better than others. Deal with broken websites (which 
often required different lists). lots of research and configurations 
work I don't particularly like to do and would rather use my time for 
other things.  I know I need to move on but don't want to invest the 
time right now to do the same with uBlock



Something you might want to try

When I was running AdBlock Plus, I had also done quite a bit of tuning, 
but I when I moved to uBlock Origin, I didn't need to do an unreasonable 
amount of work.  uBlock can pretty much subscribe to the same lists that 
ABP does.  Yes, it does take a little bit of time getting to uBlock's 
different UI, and it is a little more effort to dig into individual 
blocking rules.  However, with uBlock, I find that I spend less time 
tinkering with the rules than I did with ABP, and ultimately, that's 
time I can spend doing what I want to do.


What you might want to do is to create a new profile and install uBlock 
in that -- add all the subscriptions you want (and for that matter, any 
other extensions you consider to be essential), and see what things look 
like.  You might find that you get enough blocking immediately, without 
having to spend much more time, at least not initially. It's likely that 
a lot of the fine-tuning that you want is probably better done as tweaks 
that are done in the context of of the moment.


If initial setups of uBlock do enough for you in the second profile, 
then that will tell you if you can replace ABP in your primary profile 
without an unreasonable amount of work.


Smith



thanx. That is great advise.
I was wondering, rather than a different profile, if I could just have 
both installed and disable in the add on manager the one i am not using. 
this way I can disable ABP, try uBlock and if I don't like it or it 
needs more work to make me happy just revert back to disable uBlock and 
ABP. This way I get to try it in my real profile, which is probably more 
real world anyway.


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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[NFN Smith]

Hawker wrote:




Not sure why you cling to ABP and 2.49.1 (this one is even more 
obsolete).


Clinging to ABP for me is because it took me several days to get it 
working the way I wanted years ago. I had to find various lists, see 
which ones worked better than others. Deal with broken websites (which 
often required different lists). lots of research and configurations 
work I don't particularly like to do and would rather use my time for 
other things.  I know I need to move on but don't want to invest the 
time right now to do the same with uBlock



Something you might want to try

When I was running AdBlock Plus, I had also done quite a bit of tuning, 
but I when I moved to uBlock Origin, I didn't need to do an unreasonable 
amount of work.  uBlock can pretty much subscribe to the same lists that 
ABP does.  Yes, it does take a little bit of time getting to uBlock's 
different UI, and it is a little more effort to dig into individual 
blocking rules.  However, with uBlock, I find that I spend less time 
tinkering with the rules than I did with ABP, and ultimately, that's 
time I can spend doing what I want to do.


What you might want to do is to create a new profile and install uBlock 
in that -- add all the subscriptions you want (and for that matter, any 
other extensions you consider to be essential), and see what things look 
like.  You might find that you get enough blocking immediately, without 
having to spend much more time, at least not initially. It's likely that 
a lot of the fine-tuning that you want is probably better done as tweaks 
that are done in the context of of the moment.


If initial setups of uBlock do enough for you in the second profile, 
then that will tell you if you can replace ABP in your primary profile 
without an unreasonable amount of work.


Smith

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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On 4/21/2020 4:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,


So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
No. NSS is no longer backwoard compatible. We need to soon put a hard 
block in to go thru 2.53.1 to .3 first.



- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?


At least a year or two away with the current resources.

We either keep up with 2.53 or do 2.57 full time. The later is not an 
option.


I'm not sure I understand this. Given the lack of resources wouldn't it 
make the most sense to get 2.53.x to some point "good enough" as quickly 
as you can, maybe once 2.53.2 drops then let it go and move on to 2.57? 
I realize that could leave 2.53 in bad shape, but we had that with 2.49 
and it would be really nice to get SM to a more current engine with less 
website compatibility issues. The more y'all delay working on newer 
versions the more behind SM gets and the more folks move to a new tool.





Not sure why you cling to ABP and 2.49.1 (this one is even more obsolete).


Clinging to ABP for me is because it took me several days to get it 
working the way I wanted years ago. I had to find various lists, see 
which ones worked better than others. Deal with broken websites (which 
often required different lists). lots of research and configurations 
work I don't particularly like to do and would rather use my time for 
other things.  I know I need to move on but don't want to invest the 
time right now to do the same with uBlock





Older fr dictionary can be used with 2.53.x and I am working on getting 
web ext dictionary support in.


FRG


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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,


So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
No. NSS is no longer backwoard compatible. We need to soon put a hard block in 
to go thru 2.53.1 to .3 first.



- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?


At least a year or two away with the current resources.

We either keep up with 2.53 or do 2.57 full time. The later is not an option.

Not sure why you cling to ABP and 2.49.1 (this one is even more obsolete).

Older fr dictionary can be used with 2.53.x and I am working on getting web 
ext dictionary support in.


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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Yamo']

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 21/04/2020 08:39:

> Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
> until 2.57
> Because: (the minimum that I want)
> The french dictionary is a web extension

No, I use the version 6.3 on 2.53.1 :





> The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

No

There is TWO branches, for Seamonkey you have to use the legacy branch.

And why using very old 2.49.1 and not 2.49.5 why have less securities
holes...


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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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NFN Smith wrote on 20-04-20 17:34:

Ray_Net wrote:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?
- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?
- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed 
anymore ?



For FireBug and true-full-screen-  if you don't know why you need 
them, chances are pretty good that you don't need them.


When I installed it  it was useful because full-screen was not 
working ...

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?


I don't use it.


Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They 
still have a few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement 
together with DOMi.



- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?


I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :



2.91 is available but not recommended. I had nothing but problems 
(temporary hangs and memory bloat) after 2.82 even with 2.49.x so 
switched to uBlock which is still somehwat maintained.



- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
anymore ?


I don't think this is needed anymore.

FRG


Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
until 2.57

Because: (the minimum that I want)
The french dictionary is a web extension
The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

AND in the 2.53.1 release notes I read:

Dictionaries in WebExtension formats do *not* work, even though they 
appear to install correctly.


SeaMonkey does not currently support the WebExtensions add-on api. Some 
popular add-ons like NoScript and uBlock Origin are no longer shown 
because of this on the SeaMonkey add-ons website. You can usually get 
them from the manufacturers site. WebExtensions support is a planned 
feature for 2.57.



So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?
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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Hawker]

On 4/20/2020 12:42 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Hawker wrote:

On 4/20/2020 11:34 AM, NFN Smith wrote:


I'm wondering how many of my problems with lock up and excessive 
memory usage is from AdBlock. The fact that the lists have not been 
updated in years is also an issue.
I confess that the time to research and change and configure to uBlock 
is part of why I am still at 2.49.5 but I am suspecting the issue goes 
back to my version as well.  I'm pretty sure when 2.53.2 comes out 
I'll change to uBlock and update.
Ti.com stopped working with 2.49.5 this week and I am really hoping 
2.53 fixes that.





Seems to be working fine including search at first glance:

https://www.ti.com/store/ti/en/search/?text=74ls04=

Basically there was only a single problem with 2.53.2 beta 1 reported so 
far wrt language packs and the upgrade. The final will get some 
additonal security and a few minor issue fixes so I would say even the 
beta is good to go. Installing the final over the beta will be smooth.


FRG


Thanx for the info.
Turns out the TI problem, so far, was a conflict with AdBlock that 
didn't exist before. Another reason to switch to uBlock I guess.
The search was broken but also so was some of the page navigation when 
you click order now etc. It worked a week ago.  I spend a few hours a 
day on that site usually so it was a big blow. There is a lot that is 
way harder to do on the new page they launched or doesn't work anymore 
no matter what browser I use so I am hoping TI is on it for the other 
issues.

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Hawker wrote:

On 4/20/2020 11:34 AM, NFN Smith wrote:


I'm wondering how many of my problems with lock up and excessive memory usage 
is from AdBlock. The fact that the lists have not been updated in years is 
also an issue.
I confess that the time to research and change and configure to uBlock is part 
of why I am still at 2.49.5 but I am suspecting the issue goes back to my 
version as well.  I'm pretty sure when 2.53.2 comes out I'll change to uBlock 
and update.
Ti.com stopped working with 2.49.5 this week and I am really hoping 2.53 fixes 
that.





Seems to be working fine including search at first glance:

https://www.ti.com/store/ti/en/search/?text=74ls04=

Basically there was only a single problem with 2.53.2 beta 1 reported so far 
wrt language packs and the upgrade. The final will get some additonal security 
and a few minor issue fixes so I would say even the beta is good to go. 
Installing the final over the beta will be smooth.


FRG
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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Hawker]

On 4/20/2020 11:34 AM, NFN Smith wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?
- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?
- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed 
anymore ?



For FireBug and true-full-screen-  if you don't know why you need them, 
chances are pretty good that you don't need them. You might try 
disabling and seeing how Seamonkey behaves.  I suspect you'll never know 
the difference.


If you read the 2.53.1 release notes 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ , the 
Extensions section not only notes that AdBlock Plus is problematic, but 
there is still a version of uBlock Origin that is working (and 
supported), and there is a link offered.


For AdBlock, the issue is that they've stopped supporting XUL 
extensions, and at version 2.53.x Seamonkey does not support 
WebExtension extensions.


I will note that I'm quite content with what I'm getting out of uBlock.

Smith



I'm wondering how many of my problems with lock up and excessive memory 
usage is from AdBlock. The fact that the lists have not been updated in 
years is also an issue.
I confess that the time to research and change and configure to uBlock 
is part of why I am still at 2.49.5 but I am suspecting the issue goes 
back to my version as well.  I'm pretty sure when 2.53.2 comes out I'll 
change to uBlock and update.
Ti.com stopped working with 2.49.5 this week and I am really hoping 2.53 
fixes that.



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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[NFN Smith]

Ray_Net wrote:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?
- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?
- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed 
anymore ?



For FireBug and true-full-screen-  if you don't know why you need them, 
chances are pretty good that you don't need them. You might try 
disabling and seeing how Seamonkey behaves.  I suspect you'll never know 
the difference.


If you read the 2.53.1 release notes 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ , the 
Extensions section not only notes that AdBlock Plus is problematic, but 
there is still a version of uBlock Origin that is working (and 
supported), and there is a link offered.


For AdBlock, the issue is that they've stopped supporting XUL 
extensions, and at version 2.53.x Seamonkey does not support 
WebExtension extensions.


I will note that I'm quite content with what I'm getting out of uBlock.

Smith

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?


I don't use it.


Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They still have a 
few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement together with DOMi.



- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?


I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :



2.91 is available but not recommended. I had nothing but problems (temporary 
hangs and memory bloat) after 2.82 even with 2.49.x so switched to uBlock 
which is still somehwat maintained.



- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
anymore ?


I don't think this is needed anymore.

FRG
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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Yamo']

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:
> I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
> But I see that:
> - FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?

I don't use it.

> - AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?

I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :


> - What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed 
> anymore ?

I never used it.



-- 
Stéphane
Sorry for possible mistakes in English!
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Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Ray_Net]

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?
- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?
- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed 
anymore ?

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