Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-10 Thread Daniel

NoOp wrote:

On 11/09/2011 02:17 AM, Daniel wrote:


Well, I'm happy you have a 40MB mail account! I don't, so the two 250kB+
messages would still exceed my limit, even if they don't touch the sides
of your email account!


Try trimming your replies... that will help you, and help others in the
same situation.



Sorry, NoOp, my personal preference, in the support groups, is to leave 
everything there, so the OP has a complete thread in one go.!


Your preference may be otherwise!

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-09 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
[bigsnip]

Frog wrote:

I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached
to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.


Do a plain-text signature.


Why we cannot use a beautiful signature ?


If you use it in business because your company requires it, okay. At
least try to keep down the bytesize.


I was at work using Outlook, and *all* our signatures were we have all
our details, phone number, position, plus the logo of our company -
all
of that very nice. Nobody have complained about it.


If it was company policy, who would complain? And who do you know who
actually *reads* all those space-robbing signatures?

Here's a case I have to deal with: one of the web sites I maintain is
for a local business. Frequently, two of the employees will collaborate
on some new content - not by sitting down across a desk, but by sending
emails to each other, fifteen feet away from each other. With each
email, they add their own sig graphic, around 40KB each (and they both
top-post).

Finally, they agree on the content and one of them sends it all to me,
and I get a huge email with a half-dozen or more copies of the
worked-on
content, and all these graphics because none of them is smart enough to
*trim* off extraneous crap. I get an email of a few paragraphs of
business, maybe a few kilobytes, and a waste with 250 MORE kilobytes of
signature graphics.


If the receiver want to stay in the past allowing only plain text,
this
is his choice - We don't care ... he should live in the present.


I'm living in the present and read all mail in Plain Text. You're
right,
it's my choice. I don't care what you do, but at least give your
recipients a break. A couple of lines in HTML with a nice font should
suffice.

And be sure to delimit it with the proper sig delimiter, as shown next,
two hyphens followed by a space on a single line (though that rarely
works with HTML email):



I never tried it. This is my signature i uses C:\ALLDATA\signature1.txt
A pure plain text, but someone prefer to have a better appearance.
The problem with the nice font, is because: If the receiver did not
have this font installed.


Ray, I'll give you another problem, or rather you'll give me a
problemmy ISP gives me a 500kB mailbox, so if I received two or more
of those untrimmed, HTML-rich, emails Beaugard mentions above of 250kB
or more, *YOU* with your pretty sig files (which probably tell*me*
absolutely nothing useful) are costing *ME* money.

Thanks, but no thanks!


My isp give me a mailbox with a quota of 40 Megabytes.
I download my mail daily so i did not reach the limit.
A person sending me a huge amount of mails with big attachements ...
force me to take a Gmail account - Now he is sending me those mails
there.(Gmail imposes a limit on the attachment size (20 MB) and the
overall storage space (6 GB and growing))

Notice that my signature is not an html one, but just a pure text with
my adress and my phone numbers.


Well, I'm happy you have a 40MB mail account! I don't, so the two 250kB+ 
messages would still exceed my limit, even if they don't touch the sides 
of your email account!


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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-09 Thread NoOp
On 11/09/2011 02:17 AM, Daniel wrote:
...
 Well, I'm happy you have a 40MB mail account! I don't, so the two 250kB+ 
 messages would still exceed my limit, even if they don't touch the sides 
 of your email account!
 
Try trimming your replies... that will help you, and help others in the
same situation.

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-08 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
[bigsnip]

Frog wrote:

I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached
to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.


Do a plain-text signature.


Why we cannot use a beautiful signature ?


If you use it in business because your company requires it, okay. At
least try to keep down the bytesize.


I was at work using Outlook, and *all* our signatures were we have all
our details, phone number, position, plus the logo of our company - all
of that very nice. Nobody have complained about it.


If it was company policy, who would complain? And who do you know who
actually *reads* all those space-robbing signatures?

Here's a case I have to deal with: one of the web sites I maintain is
for a local business. Frequently, two of the employees will collaborate
on some new content - not by sitting down across a desk, but by sending
emails to each other, fifteen feet away from each other. With each
email, they add their own sig graphic, around 40KB each (and they both
top-post).

Finally, they agree on the content and one of them sends it all to me,
and I get a huge email with a half-dozen or more copies of the worked-on
content, and all these graphics because none of them is smart enough to
*trim* off extraneous crap. I get an email of a few paragraphs of
business, maybe a few kilobytes, and a waste with 250 MORE kilobytes of
signature graphics.


If the receiver want to stay in the past allowing only plain text, this
is his choice - We don't care ... he should live in the present.


I'm living in the present and read all mail in Plain Text. You're right,
it's my choice. I don't care what you do, but at least give your
recipients a break. A couple of lines in HTML with a nice font should
suffice.

And be sure to delimit it with the proper sig delimiter, as shown next,
two hyphens followed by a space on a single line (though that rarely
works with HTML email):



I never tried it. This is my signature i uses C:\ALLDATA\signature1.txt
A pure plain text, but someone prefer to have a better appearance.
The problem with the nice font, is because: If the receiver did not
have this font installed.


Ray, I'll give you another problem, or rather you'll give me a 
problemmy ISP gives me a 500kB mailbox, so if I received two or more 
of those untrimmed, HTML-rich, emails Beaugard mentions above of 250kB 
or more, *YOU* with your pretty sig files (which probably tell*me* 
absolutely nothing useful) are costing *ME* money.


Thanks, but no thanks!

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-08 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.
Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then
decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non
image
file. I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to
work with
few steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the
SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is
located
under the subject space and above the message space. I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either
clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted
back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
she has installed that font. According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded
.gif file.


Not really. The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments. As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet. They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file? Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.



So there is no way to achieve:
I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
signature

If the receiver did not have this font installed.
And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

Did you have a solution ?


Do a plain-text signature.


If i follow your philosphy, the only tag allowed in website should be
this one:
pre
Text in a pre element
is displayed in a fixed-width
font, and it preserves
both spaces and
line breaks
/pre

This method permit the backup of your site to a punch-tape device :-)


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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-08 Thread GeraldJan

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached
to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.
Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then
decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non
image
file. I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to
work with
few steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the
SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is
located
under the subject space and above the message space. I then
selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either
clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted
back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if
he or
she has installed that font. According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or
Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded
.gif file.


Not really. The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments. As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet. They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file? Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry
malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.



So there is no way to achieve:
I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
signature

If the receiver did not have this font installed.
And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

Did you have a solution ?


Do a plain-text signature.


If i follow your philosphy, the only tag allowed in website should be
this one:
pre
Text in a pre element
is displayed in a fixed-width
font, and it preserves
both spaces and
line breaks
/pre

This method permit the backup of your site to a punch-tape device :-)


and the problem with this general lay-out is???

do you still have an PDP-8 under the ceiling? the 11/45 from cwi.nl was 
indeed a lot neither than the 11/40

or do i compare the LSI-75 against the LSI-23
i was young at least during that time, but i
learned to sing /amazing grace/ with my right hand on my coriçon OSLT

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-08 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
[bigsnip]

Frog wrote:

I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached
to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.


Do a plain-text signature.


Why we cannot use a beautiful signature ?


If you use it in business because your company requires it, okay. At
least try to keep down the bytesize.


I was at work using Outlook, and *all* our signatures were we have all
our details, phone number, position, plus the logo of our company - all
of that very nice. Nobody have complained about it.


If it was company policy, who would complain? And who do you know who
actually *reads* all those space-robbing signatures?

Here's a case I have to deal with: one of the web sites I maintain is
for a local business. Frequently, two of the employees will collaborate
on some new content - not by sitting down across a desk, but by sending
emails to each other, fifteen feet away from each other. With each
email, they add their own sig graphic, around 40KB each (and they both
top-post).

Finally, they agree on the content and one of them sends it all to me,
and I get a huge email with a half-dozen or more copies of the worked-on
content, and all these graphics because none of them is smart enough to
*trim* off extraneous crap. I get an email of a few paragraphs of
business, maybe a few kilobytes, and a waste with 250 MORE kilobytes of
signature graphics.


If the receiver want to stay in the past allowing only plain text, this
is his choice - We don't care ... he should live in the present.


I'm living in the present and read all mail in Plain Text. You're right,
it's my choice. I don't care what you do, but at least give your
recipients a break. A couple of lines in HTML with a nice font should
suffice.

And be sure to delimit it with the proper sig delimiter, as shown next,
two hyphens followed by a space on a single line (though that rarely
works with HTML email):



I never tried it. This is my signature i uses C:\ALLDATA\signature1.txt
A pure plain text, but someone prefer to have a better appearance.
The problem with the nice font, is because: If the receiver did not
have this font installed.


Ray, I'll give you another problem, or rather you'll give me a
problemmy ISP gives me a 500kB mailbox, so if I received two or more
of those untrimmed, HTML-rich, emails Beaugard mentions above of 250kB
or more, *YOU* with your pretty sig files (which probably tell*me*
absolutely nothing useful) are costing *ME* money.

Thanks, but no thanks!


My isp give me a mailbox with a quota of 40 Megabytes.
I download my mail daily so i did not reach the limit.
A person sending me a huge amount of mails with big attachements ... 
force me to take a Gmail account - Now he is sending me those mails 
there.(Gmail imposes a limit on the attachment size (20 MB) and the 
overall storage space (6 GB and growing))


Notice that my signature is not an html one, but just a pure text with 
my adress and my phone numbers.

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-08 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached
to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.
Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then
decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non
image
file. I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to
work with
few steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the
SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is
located
under the subject space and above the message space. I then
selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either
clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted
back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if
he or
she has installed that font. According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or
Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded
.gif file.


Not really. The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments. As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet. They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file? Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry
malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.



So there is no way to achieve:
I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
signature

If the receiver did not have this font installed.
And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

Did you have a solution ?


Do a plain-text signature.


If i follow your philosphy, the only tag allowed in website should be
this one:
pre
Text in a pre element
is displayed in a fixed-width
font, and it preserves
both spaces and
line breaks
/pre

This method permit the backup of your site to a punch-tape device :-)


and the problem with this general lay-out is???


Don't worry , i was just kidding :-)
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-07 Thread Frog

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


 I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

 I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

 Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
she has installed that font.  According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.


Not really.  The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments.  As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet.  They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file?  Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.



So there is no way to achieve:
I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
signature

If the receiver did not have this font installed.
And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

Did you have a solution ?


Do a plain-text signature.


David,
You probably remember me from my past problems...the old man learning 
the computer world as he goes.  Now for my learning question this time 
around--Is the signature that I developed (developed following the steps 
I gave in my earlier message)plain text?  Is there a security problem 
with the signature I developed?  It seems to me that is is simply plain 
text as the rest of my message--just in bold letters, a larger font 
size, and in a different font.  Am I correct in this thinking?

Thanks again for helping me get my knowledge base in line.
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-07 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


 I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

 I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

 Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
she has installed that font.  According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.


Not really.  The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments.  As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet.  They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file?  Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.



So there is no way to achieve:
I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
signature

If the receiver did not have this font installed.
And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

Did you have a solution ?


Do a plain-text signature.


Why we cannot use a beautiful signature ?
I was at work using Outlook, and *all* our signatures were we have all 
our details, phone number, position, plus the logo of our company - all 
of that very nice. Nobody have complained about it.
If the receiver want to stay in the past allowing only plain text, this 
is his choice - We don't care ... he should live in the present.

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-07 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


 I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

 I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

 Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
she has installed that font.  According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.


Not really.  The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments.  As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet.  They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file?  Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.



So there is no way to achieve:
I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
signature

If the receiver did not have this font installed.
And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

Did you have a solution ?


Do a plain-text signature.

If i follow your philosphy, the only tag allowed in website should be 
this one:

pre
Text in a pre element
is displayed in a fixed-width
font, and it preserves
both  spaces and
line breaks
/pre

This method permit the backup of your site to a punch-tape device :-)
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-07 Thread GeraldJan

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.
Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then
decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non
image
file. I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to
work with
few steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the
SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is
located
under the subject space and above the message space. I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either
clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted
back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
she has installed that font. According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded
.gif file.


Not really. The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments. As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet. They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file? Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.



So there is no way to achieve:
I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
signature

If the receiver did not have this font installed.
And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

Did you have a solution ?


Do a plain-text signature.


Why we cannot use a beautiful signature ?
I was at work using Outlook, and *all* our signatures were we have all
our details, phone number, position, plus the logo of our company - all
of that very nice. Nobody have complained about it.
If the receiver want to stay in the past allowing only plain text, this
is his choice - We don't care ... he should live in the present.


apropos it is just 1,5 yrs for my pension

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-07 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
[bigsnip]

Frog wrote:

I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.


Do a plain-text signature.


Why we cannot use a beautiful signature ?


If you use it in business because your company requires it, okay. At 
least try to keep down the bytesize.



I was at work using Outlook, and *all* our signatures were we have all
our details, phone number, position, plus the logo of our company - all
of that very nice. Nobody have complained about it.


If it was company policy, who would complain?  And who do you know who 
actually *reads* all those space-robbing signatures?


Here's a case I have to deal with:  one of the web sites I maintain is 
for a local business. Frequently, two of the employees will collaborate 
on some new content - not by sitting down across a desk, but by sending 
emails to each other, fifteen feet away from each other. With each 
email, they add their own sig graphic, around 40KB each (and they both 
top-post).


Finally, they agree on the content and one of them sends it all to me, 
and I get a huge email with a half-dozen or more copies of the worked-on 
content, and all these graphics because none of them is smart enough to 
*trim* off extraneous crap. I get an email of a few paragraphs of 
business, maybe a few kilobytes, and a waste with 250 MORE kilobytes of 
signature graphics.



If the receiver want to stay in the past allowing only plain text, this
is his choice - We don't care ... he should live in the present.


I'm living in the present and read all mail in Plain Text. You're right, 
it's my choice. I don't care what you do, but at least give your 
recipients a break. A couple of lines in HTML with a nice font should 
suffice.


And be sure to delimit it with the proper sig delimiter, as shown next, 
two hyphens followed by a space on a single line (though that rarely 
works with HTML email):


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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-07 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/7/11 5:17 AM, Frog wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:
 Frog wrote:

 I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
 message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
 be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

 Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

 Frog

  I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
 about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
 if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
 file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
 few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey 
 Inbox):

 1. Clicked Compose

 2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

 3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
 containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
 under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
 Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

 4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
 the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

 5. Lastly, I sent the message.

 Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
 the original settings once the message was sent.

  I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
 believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
 problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

  Thanks again for your help.

 Frog

 The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
 she has installed that font.  According to
 http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
 appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
 systems.

 So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.

 Not really.  The recipient might have blocked the opening of
 attachments.  As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
 (GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
 message traverses the Internet.  They are treated as attachments until
 the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
 BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
 force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

 Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file?  Because GIF
 files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
 according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.


 So there is no way to achieve:
 I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
 signature

 If the receiver did not have this font installed.
 And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
 signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

 Did you have a solution ?

 Do a plain-text signature.

 David,
 You probably remember me from my past problems...the old man learning 
 the computer world as he goes.  Now for my learning question this time 
 around--Is the signature that I developed (developed following the steps 
 I gave in my earlier message)plain text?  Is there a security problem 
 with the signature I developed?  It seems to me that is is simply plain 
 text as the rest of my message--just in bold letters, a larger font 
 size, and in a different font.  Am I correct in this thinking?
 Thanks again for helping me get my knowledge base in line.
 Frog

How do you get a different font, font-size, and bold?  That cannot be
done with plain-text.  At the minimum, it requires HTML-formatting, for
which there is no security problem.  However, some users will display
that as ASCII-formatted, negating the effort you put into designing your
signature.

If you are concerned about conveying the content of your signature,
HTML-formatting is betting than an image file.  If you are more
concerned about the aesthetic impact of your signature, not everyone
will receive that impact.

-- 

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http://www.rossde.com/.

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-07 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/7/11 7:36 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:
 Frog wrote:

 I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
 message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
 be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

 Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

 Frog

  I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
 about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
 if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
 file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
 few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey 
 Inbox):

 1. Clicked Compose

 2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

 3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
 containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
 under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
 Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

 4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
 the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

 5. Lastly, I sent the message.

 Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
 the original settings once the message was sent.

  I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
 believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
 problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

  Thanks again for your help.

 Frog

 The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
 she has installed that font.  According to
 http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
 appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
 systems.

 So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.

 Not really.  The recipient might have blocked the opening of
 attachments.  As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
 (GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
 message traverses the Internet.  They are treated as attachments until
 the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
 BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
 force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

 Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file?  Because GIF
 files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
 according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.


 So there is no way to achieve:
 I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my
 signature

 If the receiver did not have this font installed.
 And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html
 signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.

 Did you have a solution ?

 Do a plain-text signature.

 Why we cannot use a beautiful signature ?
 I was at work using Outlook, and *all* our signatures were we have all 
 our details, phone number, position, plus the logo of our company - all 
 of that very nice. Nobody have complained about it.
 If the receiver want to stay in the past allowing only plain text, this 
 is his choice - We don't care ... he should live in the present.

Your signature in that case merely conveyed how clever you were.  Since
I strip away all attachments from incoming E-mail, I would never see
your logo without manually opening the file in PhotoEd.  Nobody might
have complained, but did EVERYONE really see the intended design of your
signature?

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http://www.rossde.com/.

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-07 Thread Ray_Net

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:
  David E. Ross wrote:
[bigsnip]

Frog wrote:

I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached
to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message.


Do a plain-text signature.


Why we cannot use a beautiful signature ?


If you use it in business because your company requires it, okay. At
least try to keep down the bytesize.


I was at work using Outlook, and *all* our signatures were we have all
our details, phone number, position, plus the logo of our company - all
of that very nice. Nobody have complained about it.


If it was company policy, who would complain? And who do you know who
actually *reads* all those space-robbing signatures?

Here's a case I have to deal with: one of the web sites I maintain is
for a local business. Frequently, two of the employees will collaborate
on some new content - not by sitting down across a desk, but by sending
emails to each other, fifteen feet away from each other. With each
email, they add their own sig graphic, around 40KB each (and they both
top-post).

Finally, they agree on the content and one of them sends it all to me,
and I get a huge email with a half-dozen or more copies of the worked-on
content, and all these graphics because none of them is smart enough to
*trim* off extraneous crap. I get an email of a few paragraphs of
business, maybe a few kilobytes, and a waste with 250 MORE kilobytes of
signature graphics.


If the receiver want to stay in the past allowing only plain text, this
is his choice - We don't care ... he should live in the present.


I'm living in the present and read all mail in Plain Text. You're right,
it's my choice. I don't care what you do, but at least give your
recipients a break. A couple of lines in HTML with a nice font should
suffice.

And be sure to delimit it with the proper sig delimiter, as shown next,
two hyphens followed by a space on a single line (though that rarely
works with HTML email):



I never tried it. This is my signature i uses C:\ALLDATA\signature1.txt 
A pure plain text, but someone prefer to have a better appearance.
The problem with the nice font, is because: If the receiver did not 
have this font installed.

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-06 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


   I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

   I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

   Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
she has installed that font.  According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-06 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:
 Frog wrote:

 I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
 message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
 be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

 Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

 Frog

I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
 about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
 if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
 file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
 few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

 1. Clicked Compose

 2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

 3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
 containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
 under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
 Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

 4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
 the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

 5. Lastly, I sent the message.

 Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
 the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
 believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
 problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

 Frog

 The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
 she has installed that font.  According to
 http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
 appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
 systems.

 So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.

Not really.  The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments.  As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet.  They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file?  Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.

-- 

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/.

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-06 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

Frog


The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
she has installed that font.  According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
systems.


So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.


Not really.  The recipient might have blocked the opening of
attachments.  As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
(GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
message traverses the Internet.  They are treated as attachments until
the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file?  Because GIF
files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.



So there is no way to achieve:
I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my 
signature


If the receiver did not have this font installed.
And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html 
signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.


Did you have a solution ?
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-06 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/6/11 2:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/6/11 12:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:
 Frog wrote:

 I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
 message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
 be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

 Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

 Frog

 I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned
 about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided
 if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image
 file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with
 few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey 
 Inbox):

 1. Clicked Compose

 2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

 3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
 containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
 under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected
 Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

 4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
 the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

 5. Lastly, I sent the message.

 Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
 the original settings once the message was sent.

 I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I
 believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment
 problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

 Thanks again for your help.

 Frog

 The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
 she has installed that font.  According to
 http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
 appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
 systems.

 So the best way is composing an html signature with an embedded .gif file.

 Not really.  The recipient might have blocked the opening of
 attachments.  As I said before in this thread, inline graphics files
 (GIF, JPEG, BMP, PNG, etc) are separated from an E-mail message as the
 message traverses the Internet.  They are treated as attachments until
 the recipient's E-mail application recombines them with the message --
 BUT ONLY IF the recipient allows attachments to be opened and does not
 force HTML-formatted messages to be viewed as if ASCII-formatted.

 Why would a recipient block the opening of a GIF file?  Because GIF
 files (and other graphics files, too) have been known to carry malware,
 according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT.

 
 So there is no way to achieve:
 I want to type in Script MT Bold//Font Size 22//Microsoft Word my 
 signature
 
 If the receiver did not have this font installed.
 And embedding a gif file (a printscreen of the text) into an html 
 signature doesnot work also if the receiver block attachement.
 
 Did you have a solution ?

Do a plain-text signature.

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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-05 Thread Frog

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


 I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned 
about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided 
if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image 
file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with 
few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):


1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window 
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located 
under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected 
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.


4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking 
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.


5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to 
the original settings once the message was sent.


 I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I 
believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment 
problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.


 Thanks again for your help.

Frog
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-05 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned about
the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then decided if there
was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image file. I
found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with few
steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
under the subject space and above the message space. I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I believe this
procedure will work without involving the attachment problem identified
in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

Frog

Unfortunately step 3 makes no sense to me.
I don't have any windows between the subject space and the message space.
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-05 Thread Frog

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned about
the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then decided if there
was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image file. I
found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with few
steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
under the subject space and above the message space. I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I believe this
procedure will work without involving the attachment problem identified
in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

Frog

Unfortunately step 3 makes no sense to me.
I don't have any windows between the subject space and the message space.


Question - Are you looking at the newsgroup compose window or the Inbox 
compose message?  The windows I am referring to in step 3 are only 
present in the Inbox window--the place where I want to use this capability.


Please let me know if this helps...if not, I will try again.

Frog
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/5/11 11:42 AM, Frog wrote:
 Frog wrote:

 I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
 message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
 be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

 Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

 Frog
 
   I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned 
 about the Attachment of the signature being a problem.  I then decided 
 if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image 
 file.  I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with 
 few steps involved.  Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):
 
 1. Clicked Compose
 
 2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.
 
 3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window 
 containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located 
 under the subject space and above the message space.  I then selected 
 Script MT Bold from the drop down list.
 
 4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking 
 the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.
 
 5. Lastly, I sent the message.
 
 Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to 
 the original settings once the message was sent.
 
   I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know.  Also, I 
 believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment 
 problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know.
 
   Thanks again for your help.
 
 Frog

The recipient will see your signature in Script MT Bold only if he or
she has installed that font.  According to
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml, that font
appears on only 58% of Windows systems and not at all on Mac or Linux
systems.

While browsers such as Firefox and SeaMonkey support Web fonts -- where
you can cause a Web page to use fonts from your server even if they are
not on the user's system -- I don't think any E-mail application has
that capability, either for composing and sending messages or for
receiving and reading messages.

Furthermore, there are still a number of individuals who view E-mail
only in ASCII.  None of them will see your signature in Script MT Bold
even if they have installed that font.

NOTE WELL:  Before anyone revives the argument about ASCII-formatted
E-mail verus HTML-formatted E-mail, please note that I did not say
anything about favoring one or the other.  I merely said that some
individuals do favor ASCII-formatted E-mail.

-- 

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/.

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bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
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Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.

2011-11-05 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Frog wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a
message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this
be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen?

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Frog


I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned about
the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then decided if there
was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image file. I
found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with few
steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox):

1. Clicked Compose

2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text.

3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window
containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located
under the subject space and above the message space. I then selected
Script MT Bold from the drop down list.

4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking
the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow.

5. Lastly, I sent the message.

Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to
the original settings once the message was sent.

I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I believe this
procedure will work without involving the attachment problem identified
in some of the responses...if not, let me know.

Thanks again for your help.

Frog

Unfortunately step 3 makes no sense to me.
I don't have any windows between the subject space and the message space.


Question - Are you looking at the newsgroup compose window or the Inbox
compose message? The windows I am referring to in step 3 are only
present in the Inbox window--the place where I want to use this capability.

Please let me know if this helps...if not, I will try again.

Frog

Inbox compose. But I'm composing in text mode
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